Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 00:20:02 -0400 songbird wrote: Hello songbird, > i always turn off the automatic reboot. i don't want If this machine had that option, so would I. Meaning; once powered down it requires user interaction to restart, it doesn't automatically reboot after power is restored.

Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread songbird
Brad Rogers wrote: ... > During stormy weather, in the exposed rural area I live in, power can go > off several times an hour. Although it's rarely longer than a few > seconds at a time, it's enough to forcibly shut down computers, and > would be rather annoying if said computer were to be shut

Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread songbird
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: ... > Whatever it was that happened, I now tell my BIOS to NO, DO *NOT* keep > trying to come back up if a power failure completely shuts it down at > some point. That's from having seen the lights and thus power flicker > on and off some 4, 5, 6, 7 times within a 2 or 3

Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable

2018-07-19 Thread songbird
Rick Macdonald wrote: > I'm going to pose my question here at the top in case it can be answered > without wading through all the details that follow: > > Now that I have removed unstable form sources.list and preferences > (pinning), won't my packages from unstable eventually be upgraded from

Re: No sound/audio

2018-07-19 Thread Rusi Mody
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 11:40:04 PM UTC+5:30, Kaj Persson wrote: > So I started reading on a support site for Firefox, and found a sentence > saying that from version 53, you have to use PulseAudio for all sound in > Firefox. It was like a stab into my back. So, what is this? I get a >

Re: Power Failure - was Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:14:19 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > >why not use something more decent like ext3 or ext4? we are in 2018 ;-) > > (your smiley noted) > Ken gave no indication of time-frame, other than in the past. Could've > been last

Re: Pastel colours in slrn - why?

2018-07-19 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 18/07/18 05:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 02:45:32PM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 18/07/18 11:05 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:24:45AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: What terminal program are you using? Is the behavior the same if you fire up slrn

Re: An introduction to Debian's topology/structure/???

2018-07-19 Thread Brian
On Thu 19 Jul 2018 at 15:34:04 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Richard Owlett: > > > > That leads to asking two related questions: [...] > > 2. What section of the installer installs packages tagged as required? > > I assume the answer will, in part, be a referral to some developer > >

Re: apache not running at boot

2018-07-19 Thread Dave
On 7/19/18 4:27 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-07-19, Dave wrote: after boot apache is not running, if i run systemctl status apache2, i get the address bind error shown above at the command line after boot if i run apache2 -k restart, no errors. after boot if i start apache2 via

Re: Power Failure

2018-07-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 06:45:16PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Cheap is a relative term. It's only "cheap" if it's cheap enough for a particular context to enjoy. Even if a HD was only a dollar a TB, it wouldn't be cheap to someone with 0 dollars. Well, you can't buy any storage with zero

Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable

2018-07-19 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 19/07/18 12:19 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: This isn't absolutely awful; you can recover from this. Here is the list of downgrades if I pin stable to 1001: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   fonts-stix libevent-2.1-6 libhunspell-1.6-0 libjsoncpp1

Re: Power Failure

2018-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2018-07-20 00:00 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> 1: /boot is functionally readonly except during kernel installation and >> removal > not really an argument - the system did not boot for this reason >> 2: journals consume disk space > not really an argument - the

Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable

2018-07-19 Thread Jochen Spieker
Rick Macdonald: > > Now that I have removed unstable form sources.list and preferences > (pinning), won't my packages from unstable eventually be upgraded from > stable as the stable versions become newer than the unstable packages that I > currently have installed? Yes, "eventually". At some

Re: No sound/audio

2018-07-19 Thread deloptes
Kaj Persson wrote: > No, certainly you are right. So far my knowledge did not reach. Well, I > followed your instruction and made a reboot. And now the timidity daemon > was not there, at least according to the command "ps -ef | grep > timidity". Before the reboot it was. But the only result of

libcurl and Virtualbox issue in Testing

2018-07-19 Thread Carl Fink
Hi, Running Testing, not sure how to report this particular issue as a bug, so I'm seeking advice here. I use virtualbox. As of right now in Testing, it depends on libcurl3. However, many other packages (e. g. apache2, amanda*, feh) depend on libcurl4, and they conflict, so you can't have both.

Re: Power Failure

2018-07-19 Thread deloptes
Felix Miata wrote: > 1: /boot is functionally readonly except during kernel installation and > removal > not really an argument - the system did not boot for this reason > 2: journals consume disk space not really an argument - the system did not boot for this reason and space in MBs is cheap

Re: No sound/audio

2018-07-19 Thread Kaj Persson
Den 2018-07-18 kl. 07:07, wrote deloptes: 70147pers...@telia.com wrote: Nothing else, I love Firefox, and appreciate really the work all these volunteers are doing, but if I cannot get sound from that programme the way I prefer, I feel I am forced to look for another browser. Anyone who knows

Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable

2018-07-19 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:43:51AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > I'm going to pose my question here at the top in case it can be answered > without wading through all the details that follow: > > Now that I have removed unstable form sources.list and preferences > (pinning), won't my packages

Re: Power Failure

2018-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2018-07-19 18:14 (UTC+0200): > why not use something more decent like ext3 or ext4? we are in 2018 ;-) 1: /boot is functionally readonly except during kernel installation and removal 2: journals consume disk space I would be spending an enormous amount of time rescuing

Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable

2018-07-19 Thread Rick Macdonald
I'm going to pose my question here at the top in case it can be answered without wading through all the details that follow: Now that I have removed unstable form sources.list and preferences (pinning), won't my packages from unstable eventually be upgraded from stable as the stable versions

Re: Power Failure - was Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:14:19 +0200 deloptes wrote: Hello deloptes, >why not use something more decent like ext3 or ext4? we are in 2018 ;-) (your smiley noted) Ken gave no indication of time-frame, other than in the past. Could've been last week, could've been twenty years ago. -- Regards

Re: An introduction to Debian's topology/structure/???

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/19/2018 10:13 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 19 Jul 2018 at 06:38:08 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/18/2018 09:06 AM, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 08:44:13AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: First I'm looking comparison of required, important, standard, optional, and

Re: Power Failure - was Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread deloptes
Kenneth Parker wrote: > My worst, was kind of "mild", though scary:  I had to rebuild /boot (on > ext2), because the last action was placing a copy of the Linux Kernel on > /boot. why not use something more decent like ext3 or ext4? we are in 2018 ;-) regards

Re: An introduction to Debian's topology/structure/???

2018-07-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, David Wright wrote: > While there are commands like aptitude search and aptitude why > available for such purposes, these are really designed for routine > maintenance. For your purposes, I think you need to develop a more > intimate relationship with the files in

Re: An introduction to Debian's topology/structure/???

2018-07-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu 19 Jul 2018 at 06:38:08 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/18/2018 09:06 AM, Michael Stone wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 08:44:13AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>First I'm looking comparison of required, important, standard, > >>optional, and extra as package labels [particularly

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-19 Thread Thomas Savary
mercredi 18 juillet 2018, à 11:11:28 CEST, Pierre Chevalier a écrit : > > N’étant pas matheux, > > Désolé. Ça peut s'arranger: il y a des formations pour ça, rien n'est > jamais désespéré. Encore faut-il en avoir le temps, et surtout l’envie. Je préfère me consacrer à la musique et à la

Re: An introduction to Debian's topology/structure/???

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/19/2018 08:34 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote: Richard Owlett: That leads to asking two related questions: 1. How can I get a list of packages tagged as required? Aptitude is great for answering questions like this: $ aptitude search '?priority(required) ?archive(stable)' Exactly what I

Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch"

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/19/2018 07:28 AM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:04:37 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: My goal is not what you would term a true LFS system. It is focused on what Beekmans writes in his preface stating "... but also serve as an ideal learning opportunity for programmers and system

Re: An introduction to Debian's topology/structure/???

2018-07-19 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: > > That leads to asking two related questions: > 1. How can I get a list of packages tagged as required? Aptitude is great for answering questions like this: $ aptitude search '?priority(required) ?archive(stable)'

Re: Power Failure - was Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 8:09 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:56:34 -0400 > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Hello Kenneth, > > >My worst, was kind of "mild", though scary: I had to rebuild /boot (on > >ext2), because the last action was placing a copy of the Linux Kernel on > >/boot. > >

Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch"

2018-07-19 Thread Joe
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:04:37 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > My goal is not what you would term a true LFS system. > It is focused on what Beekmans writes in his preface stating "... but > also serve as an ideal learning opportunity for programmers and > system administrators to enhance their

Re: Power Failure - was Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:56:34 -0400 Kenneth Parker wrote: Hello Kenneth, >My worst, was kind of "mild", though scary: I had to rebuild /boot (on >ext2), because the last action was placing a copy of the Linux Kernel on >/boot. It was the fear of such an issue (an inability to boot) that

Re: Current version of "Debian From Scratch"

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/18/2018 09:43 AM, Joe wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:10:25 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: I found [https://github.com/scottwilliambeasley/debian-from-scratch]. Is there recommended reading in addition to [http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/7.9/] ? This is the Holy Book of the

Re: Power Failure - was Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 2:20 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > > Worst I had happen as a result of power failure was that disk the > journal couldn't recover everything required, such that sector errors > were reported on every boot. A reformat got around that. Tiresome, but > not fatal. > My worst,

Re: An introduction to Debian's topology/structure/???

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/18/2018 09:06 AM, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 08:44:13AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: First I'm looking comparison of required, important, standard, optional, and extra as package labels [particularly interested in corner cases]. I've been looking at

Re: Bind9 vragen

2018-07-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:10:44AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Op 17-07-18 om 12:19 schreef Wouter Verhelst: > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 01:38:50PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > > > >> O, leuk. Hier in NL heb je wat vaker een vast IP-adres dan in België > >> denk ik. Maar hier rukt

Re: apache not running at boot

2018-07-19 Thread john doe
On 7/19/2018 10:27 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-07-19, Dave wrote: after boot apache is not running, if i run systemctl status apache2, i get the address bind error shown above at the command line after boot if i run apache2 -k restart, no errors. after boot if i start apache2 via

Re: apache not running at boot

2018-07-19 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-19, Dave wrote: > > after boot apache is not running, > if i run systemctl status apache2, i get the address bind error shown above > > at the command line after boot if i run apache2 -k restart, no errors. > > after boot if i start apache2 via /etc/init.d/apache2 start or >

Re: installer darktable pour un i386

2018-07-19 Thread didier gaumet
Le 19/07/2018 à 04:31, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > bonjour, > > la version 32 bit est abandonnée pour des raisons techniques et > c'est pour simplement installer darktable sur du vieux matos [...] Peut-être est-ce moi qui suis stupide? Mais je ne comprends vraiment pas la démarche

Re: apache not running at boot

2018-07-19 Thread Joe
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 20:57:18 -0400 Dave wrote: > > after boot apache is not running, > if i run systemctl status apache2, i get the address bind error shown > above > > at the command line after boot if i run apache2 -k restart, no errors. > > after boot if i start apache2 via

Re: apache not running at boot

2018-07-19 Thread mick crane
On 2018-07-19 01:57, Dave wrote: On 07/18/2018 04:41 PM, Dave wrote: On 07/18/2018 10:12 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 09:36:14AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: Sounds like the service may be disabled for some reason. What is the output of: systemctl status apache2 If you

Power Failure - was Re: Can one Mount a usb Drive read-only?

2018-07-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:34:37 -0400 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Hello Cindy-Sue, (I've removed references, so this should no longer thread with the USB drive thread) >reinstall... or something. I don't remember hardware getting fried, >just [code]. Maybe it was even "that other" operating system