Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Kemp
To recap you reported the original error: > apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: > Permission denied Now you've provided more details, from your audit-log: > type=AVC msg=audit(1539750555.347:77): apparmor="DENIED" > operation="open"

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Wed 17 Oct 2018 at 04:35:36 (+0100), mick crane wrote: > On 2018-10-16 22:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread steve
Le 16-10-2018, à 06:39:01 +, Steve Kemp a écrit : ls -l /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7224 jun 2 10:01 /etc/apache2/apache2.conf Getting nuts. Probably the permissions on /etc/apache2, or /etc are broken for the user www-data. ls -l /etc drwxr-xr-x 213 root root

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread steve
Le 16-10-2018, à 09:51:22 +0300, Reco a écrit : Hi. On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:31:17AM +0200, steve wrote: Hi there, Purged and then reinstalled apache2 and when I want to start apache2, here's what I get: # systemctl status apache2.service ● apache2.service - The Apache HTTP Server

Re: any program that search for same files?

2018-10-16 Thread David Christensen
On 10/14/18 3:06 PM, Long Wind wrote: given two directories, the program can print files that are in both directories to make it easy, if file name and size are same, then they are same i've to admit my memory is poor, if good, who need such program? i'm about to write it in java, it can be

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread mick crane
On 2018-10-16 22:53, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it > and bug filing is ignored. I don't know what you mean by

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Samuel Henrique
> o br na teoria deveria representar a língua bretã E na prática ele é usado[0] para tal. [0]https://packages.debian.org/sid/localization/libreoffice-l10n-br -- Samuel Henrique

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Samuel Henrique
Apenas para formalizar, temos uma proposta alternativa: A) Proposta original: 1) Renomear as atuais listas da forma abaixo, porque os históricos tem muito mais mensagens com português do Brasil: debian-news-portuguese -> debian-news-brazilian debian-l10n-portuguese -> debian-l10n-brazilian

Re: [DEBIAn-br] Locales e caracteres acentuados

2018-10-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:23:22PM -0300, gvillela7 wrote: > Cara, no Debian vc pode usar: > > dpkg-reconfigure locale Agora que você respondeu, lembro de já ter usado esse comando e aparecia um menu em modo texto. Hoje não está dando certo. root@debian:/home/debian95# dpkg-reconfigure

Re: [DEBIAN-br] Locales e caracteres acentuados

2018-10-16 Thread gvillela7
Cara, no Debian vc pode usar: dpkg-reconfigure locale  Enviado do meu smartphone Samsung Galaxy. Mensagem original De : Gilberto F da Silva <2458...@gmail.com> Data: 16/10/2018 23:15 (GMT-03:00) Para: Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA Cc: Paulo Henrique Santana ,

Re: [DEBIAN-br] Locales e caracteres acentuados

2018-10-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:32:36PM -0300, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: > Le mardi 16 octobre 2018 à 22:19 -0300, Gilberto F da Silva a écrit : > > > > LANG=eo > > > > Como não há aquela parte com UTF-8, suponho que não está > > usando unicode. Estou correto? > >

Re: [DEBIAN-br] Superkaramba

2018-10-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
Olá! Eu consigo instalar uma velharia como o superkaramba no Debian 9.5? -- Gilberto F da Silva - gfs1...@gmx.net - ICQ 136.782.571 Stela dato:2.458.408,582 Loka tempo:2018-10-16 22:58:37 Mardo signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [DEBIAN-Br] Locales e caracteres acentuados

2018-10-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:32:36PM -0300, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: > Le mardi 16 octobre 2018 à 22:19 -0300, Gilberto F da Silva a écrit : > > > > LANG=eo > > > > Como não há aquela parte com UTF-8, suponho que não está > > usando unicode. Estou correto? > >

Re: [DEBIAN-Br] Locales e caracteres acentuados

2018-10-16 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le mardi 16 octobre 2018 à 22:19 -0300, Gilberto F da Silva a écrit : > > LANG=eo > > Como não há aquela parte com UTF-8, suponho que não está > usando unicode. Estou correto? Não creio — aliás, UTF-8 é apenas uma das codificações Unicode possíveis, embora hoje de longe a mais

Re: [DEBIAN-Br] Locales e caracteres acentuados

2018-10-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
Olá povo! Já que a lista está movimentada, vamos de Debian, então. Quando estou no modo texto e digito locale, obtenho isso: LANG=eo LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="eo" LC_NUMERIC="eo" LC_TIME="eo" LC_COLLATE="eo" LC_MONETARY="eo"

Re: gimp usage

2018-10-16 Thread Haricophile
Le Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:43:56 +0200 (CEST), Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > merci d'avoir essayé, voici ce qui est installé : > > dpkg -l |awk '/gimp/ {print $1 " "$2" "$3}' > ii gimp 2.10.6-3 > ii gimp-data 2.10.6-3 > ii gimp-data-extras 1:2.0.2-1 > ii gimp-gap 2.6.0+dfsg-5+b2 > ii

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 19:01:53 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 17:53:37 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie

Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage

2018-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 18:42:19 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2018-10-16 17:07 (UTC-0500): > > > (Actually, it would be useful to know how to print out the about:config > > page so tht it can be perused at leisure.) > > prefs.js is a plain text file in the profile

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 17:53:37 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it > > > and bug filing is ignored. > >

Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default desktop?

2018-10-16 Thread Austin LaBerta
Apologies for the baity title but its very literal. where was it? Google is giving me very poor results, I assume it was done over mailing list but I'm not even sure where to start lookin. All I can figure was that it was sometime around Jessie and that XFCE was the previous desktop. I'm not

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 12:24:49 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:37:44 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security > > > breach, I'm amazed that the -i

Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage

2018-10-16 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2018-10-16 17:07 (UTC-0500): > (Actually, it would be useful to know how to print out the about:config > page so tht it can be perused at leisure.) prefs.js is a plain text file in the profile directory. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage

2018-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Oct 2018 at 21:48:11 (-0400), bw wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 21:04:58 (-0400), bw wrote: > > > I would sure be interested in your method of running firefox on stretch, > > > without using extensions or addons from outside the debian

Re: Debian 10 eliminant suport a programari no-systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Jordi Mallach
Ep Narcís, El dt. 16 de 10 de 2018 a les 09:09 +0200, en/na Narcis Garcia va escriure: > Acabo de trobar aquesta pàgina: > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd > on des de bon principi s'hi afirmen coses més espectaculars que > meditades. A l'altre extrem hi ha la contundent frase: >

Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage

2018-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Oct 2018 at 23:17:34 (-0400), bw wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 21:04:58 (-0400), bw wrote: > > > > > I agree with this opinion, and also what Dan Ritter replied. Firefox > > > > > is > > > > > now unreliable on stretch and should be

Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage

2018-10-16 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Oct 2018 at 21:43:58 (-0400), bw wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote: > > > > > My point > > > was that is ff needs extensions to be "secure" or reliable, and if the > > > only place to get them is from outside the debian repo, then logically, > > > the pkg belongs in

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it > > and bug filing is ignored. > > I don't know what you mean by this. I just performed the following >

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 12:48:21 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18:43PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >The packagers, who probably have a better

Re: Disable and Enable Screensaver via Bash Script

2018-10-16 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 10/16/18 1:10 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 10/16/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:51:48PM +, Matthew Crews >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Currently I am running Stretch with XFCE (window manager is >>> XFWM4). I presently use Xscreensaver for my screen saver.

Re: Error núcleo durante el arranque

2018-10-16 Thread Felix Perez
El mar., 16 de oct. de 2018 a la(s) 17:12, Daniel Patón Domínguez (d.pato...@gmail.com) escribió: > > Saludos: > > Durante el arranque de Debian 9.5 en un portátil me sale un error en el > núcleo. He probado a desabilitar algunas funciones de la BIOS y también he > recompilado a un núcleo más

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv. It's a reliability and management improvement, not a security improvement Perhaps OP was referring

X11 Forwarding and inet6 support on loopback (Was: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd)

2018-10-16 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 10/16/18 8:57 PM, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-10-16 18:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it and >>> bug filing is ignored. >> >> I don't know what you mean by this.  I

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 06:48:21PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: See? and this is why we can't have nice things. Spam filters and killfiles are nice things. If you hadn't fed that troll, I would never have seen that line of their message. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: You forget I'm a red hat ex-pat. snip I understand that a stretch version is being worked on, snip I haven't forgotten anything: I didn't know, I don't need to know, and none of what you wrote in this mail seems to have any

Error núcleo durante el arranque

2018-10-16 Thread Daniel Patón Domínguez
Saludos: Durante el arranque de Debian 9.5 en un portátil me sale un error en el núcleo. He probado a desabilitar algunas funciones de la BIOS y también he recompilado a un núcleo más moderno y sigue saliendo. El ordenador trabaja perfectamente, pero quisiera eliminar ese error. La salida de

ssh

2018-10-16 Thread Bas Neve
Bas Neve heeft je een e-mail gestuurd via de vertrouwelijke modus van Gmail:sshDit bericht is verzonden op 16-okt-2018 om 13:05:48 PDTJe kunt het bericht openen door op de onderstaande link te klikken. Deze link werkt alleen voor debian-user-dutch@lists.debian.org.E-mail bekijkenMet de

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Joe
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:54:48 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what > >this thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or > >dispel this rumor > > Why

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:23:15 -0400, Dan Ritter a écrit : > I have encountered no problems that can be attributed to my choice of > init system. Doing the same. Works fine, except the fact network interfaces that are using DHCPCD but are unplugged slow down the boot process *a lot*. I could only

Re: [DEBIAN-BR] Proposta para renomear as listas *-portuguese para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 08:22:58AM -0300, Ênio Júnior wrote: > A lingua que falamos é português, tanto em Angola, Moçambique, Cabo Verde, > Macau, Guiné, Timor Leste... se criarmos uma lista pra cada falante... Acho que só faz sentido criar uma

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 01:36:06PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv. > > Do you know who told you that, or where it was written down? It's true to some

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread mick crane
On 2018-10-16 18:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it and bug filing is ignored. I don't know what you mean by this. I just performed the following experiment on my stretch

[DEBIAN-BR]Re: Proposta para renomear as listas *-portuguese para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 06:33:56AM -0400, William Pereira de Paula wrote: > Sou a favor da separação da lista para tradução somente. > * > *                William Pereira de Paula                

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 16/Oct/2018 17:52:15 +0200 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 04:18:52PM +0200, john doe wrote: >> Hopefully, both parties (Debian/Devian) will come back to there senses >> and will find a way to accomodate supporting Systemd and an alternative >> init daemon. > > In the

Re: [Postfix] Rejeter tous les mails sauf pour un expéditeurs précis

2018-10-16 Thread ajh-valmer
On Friday 12 October 2018 12:22:39 JUPIN Alain wrote: > Sur une install postfix, j'ai une adresse purement interne dédié aux > mail de retours technique de certaines (ex backup, cron etc...) > Sauf que cette adresse qui n'a jamais été diffusée vient d'être > "découverte" ... comment j'avoue que

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Default User
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 13:06 wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18:43PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of

Re: gimp usage

2018-10-16 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "Bernard Schoenacker" > À: "MERLIN Philippe" > Cc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Mardi 16 Octobre 2018 18:43:56 > Objet: Re: gimp usage > > > bonjour, j'ai enfin retrouvé la trace de cette fonction :

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv. Do you know who told you that, or where it was written down? -dsr-

Re: Re.: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le mardi 16 octobre 2018 à 11:54 -0300, Ya'aqov Ben Nun a écrit : > > Também gostaria que alguém de outros países também partrcipassem > dessa conversa Já temos um português e um angolano, ambos pela separação apenas de listas de localização e desenvolvimento. Dada a diferença de população

Re: aptitude (vs Re: apt vs apt-get)

2018-10-16 Thread Haricophile
Le Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:53:04 +0200, Dominique Dumont a écrit : > Le système de résolution des dépendances est différent. Celui d'aptitude peut > donner de meilleurs résultats (ou pas) en cas d'upgrade massif. Je n'ai jamais été ennuyé par Aptitude en cas d'upgrade massif, en tout cas

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Two I can think of now. > 1) no more /etc/rc.d/ directory tree; now /usr/lib/systemd/ for scripts, Debian uses /lib/systemd/ instead of /usr/lib/systemd/. Otherwise, yes. > 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it and > bug filing is ignored. I don't know what you mean by this. I just performed the following experiment on my stretch workstation (wooledg), in communications

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18:43PM -0400, Default User wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what this > > >thing called systemd is,

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:59:36 + Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Good afternoon from Singapore, > > What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux > distros? Between disros themselves? Little except the init system. As an example, when I first installed Stretch, it

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:54:48 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what > > this thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or > > dispel this rumor > > Why

Re: OT: Thunderbird y abrir enlaces con otro navegador

2018-10-16 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
Gracias amigo. Voy a seguir intentando El 16/10/18 a las 11:58, Jorge Sanchez escribió: La solución probablemente sea sencilla: seguramente te falte algún paquete adicional. El mar., 16 oct. 2018 16:46, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano mailto:marcelogiord...@gmail.com>> escribió: Hola

Re: aptitude (vs Re: apt vs apt-get)

2018-10-16 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday, 15 October 2018 08:47:59 CEST Marc Chantreux wrote: > je ne comprend pas pourquoi, apres toutes ces années et des rumeurs > (certes lointaines maintenant) sur le fait que aptitude allait être le > frontend recommandé, non seulement l'outils ne s'est pas imposé mais > il y a maintenant

Re: gimp usage

2018-10-16 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "MERLIN Philippe" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Mardi 16 Octobre 2018 13:03:09 > Objet: Re: gimp usage > > Le mardi 16 octobre 2018, 12:37:14 CEST hamster a écrit : > > https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/resynthesizer > Je pense que ce lien te sera

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Default User
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what this > >thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or dispel this > >rumor > > Why waste time

re: what are the differences between systemd and other linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
systemd now has its own wikipedia page and its repository is on freedesktop.org. By now it's already 8 years old and links on that wikipedia page are available for systemv and bsd as well. Probably lots more informative. --

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:37:44 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security > > breach, I'm amazed that the -i option doesn't accept a timeout. Say > > in seconds, as if you think it

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
Two I can think of now. 1) no more /etc/rc.d/ directory tree; now /usr/lib/systemd/ for scripts, 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv. I do not now nor have I ever worked for Microsoft for that reason I do not tell planes circling around a tower building on the

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what this thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or dispel this rumor Why waste time giving credence to nonsense? Those who are prepared to believe

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:37:44 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security > > breach, I'm amazed that the -i option doesn't accept a timeout. Say > > in seconds, as if you think it

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 04:18:52PM +0200, john doe wrote: Hopefully, both parties (Debian/Devian) will come back to there senses and will find a way to accomodate supporting Systemd and an alternative init daemon. In the case of Debian, I don't think anyone is short of their senses. Those who

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 03:54:56 AM Morel Bérenger wrote: > Le Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:59:36 +, > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a > > écrit : > > What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux > > distros? > I know those replies are vague, but so is your question, and I

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security breach, I'm > amazed that the -i option doesn't accept a timeout. Say in seconds, as > if you think it will take 5 minutes to do the job as root, sudo -i300, > at the

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 05:23:33 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:01:46AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > [...] > > > If sysvinit was removed from Debian, than this would increase the > > amount of work for Devuan quite significantly, because lots of > > individual

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 05:56:31 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:09:39AM +0200, Martin wrote: > >> sudo su - www-data -s /bin/sh > > > >Don't use sudo with su. It is evil. > >You want to use 'sudo -i' in this case. > > Fascism is evil. This is just unnecessary. > >

Re: [OT] VPN ikec - postrouting iptables

2018-10-16 Thread Matias Mucciolo
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:07:21 PM -03 Debian Forever wrote: > He lanzado un tcpdump en el servidor desde donde lanzo la VPN en tap0 > y no veo nada ... cuando lanzo el traceroute, telnet, ping... desde mi > máquina linux, no mete tráfico... > > tcpdump -i tap0 > > Sin embargo, si hago el

Re: [OT] VPN ikec - postrouting iptables

2018-10-16 Thread Debian Forever
He lanzado un tcpdump en el servidor desde donde lanzo la VPN en tap0 y no veo nada ... cuando lanzo el traceroute, telnet, ping... desde mi máquina linux, no mete tráfico... tcpdump -i tap0 Sin embargo, si hago el tcpdump en la interfaz de red eth0 192.168.1.34, al hacer traceroute, telnet,

Fwd: OT: Thunderbird y abrir enlaces con otro navegador

2018-10-16 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
Ya lo solucioné.. por un lado.. encontré el mismo link en PREFERENCIAS AVANZADAS Sin embargo como ya habia cambiado las opciones a true.. no me pregunta de nuevo con que programa las puedo abrir. Alguna ayuda? Mensaje reenviado Asunto: OT:

Re: OT: Thunderbird y abrir enlaces con otro navegador

2018-10-16 Thread Jorge Sanchez
La solución probablemente sea sencilla: seguramente te falte algún paquete adicional. El mar., 16 oct. 2018 16:46, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano < marcelogiord...@gmail.com> escribió: > Hola amigos.. tengo un problema con Debian > > Intento ingresar a las preferencias Avanzadas de Thunderbird tal

Re: Re.: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Ya'aqov Ben Nun
Olá Ricardo. Seu posicionamento é muito importante e certeiro. Eu apoio a separação apenas na lista de localização, mas participarei de ambas da mesma forma. Também gostaria que alguém de outros países também partrcipassem dessa conversa, inclusive os portugueses que há tempos tem pedido por

Re: Filing a follow-up request

2018-10-16 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/16/18, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 03:28:33PM +0300, Tommi Höynälänmaa wrote: >> How can I file a follow-up request to a RFS bug? > What is a follow-up request? Maybe Tommi means something along the lines of where I've seen you all use "ping", kind of as a

Re: [OT] VPN ikec - postrouting iptables

2018-10-16 Thread Debian Forever
Buenas Matías, antes de nada gracias por contestar. Lo primero me corrijo, puesto que la regla postrouting estaba mal puesta: MAL: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o tap0 -j MASQUERADE BIEN: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o tap0 -j MASQUERADE Aún así no

Re.: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread ce...@rickinho.com
Eu sou Angolano e vivi em São Paulo por 4 anos. Sempre consumi novelas brasileiras e telejornais portugueses, cidadãos de ambos países vivem no meu país a anos e todos nós entendemos muito bem.Eu notei que existe diferença na escolha de palavras utilizadas na comunicação quando as pessoas são de

OT: Thunderbird y abrir enlaces con otro navegador

2018-10-16 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
Hola amigos.. tengo un problema con Debian Intento ingresar a las preferencias Avanzadas de Thunderbird tal cual lo indica este link http://tombe85.blogspot.com/2013/03/abrir-enlaces-de-thunderbird-con-google.html y me encuentro con la sorpresa de que algunos botones estan, no se bien

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread john doe
On 10/16/2018 11:01 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 09:58:30AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 9:42 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> It's currently at risk by a lack of maintainers for the sysvinit >>> package. >> >> Does this mean that Devuan is also at

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Helio Loureiro
Agora do computador fica mais fácil. É essa aqui: debian-nor...@lists.debian.org É debian-nordic mesmo. Vänliga hälsningar/Best Regards, Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br https://se.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro http://twitter.com/helioloureiro Note: if you failed to reach me, try my

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Francisco M Neto
Tenta de novo, porque essa também não existe. --Francisco On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 08:10 +0200, Helio Loureiro wrote: > debian-user-nordic > > ./helio > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 20:08 Francisco M Neto wrote: > > > On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 20:00 +0200, Helio Loureiro wrote: > > > Correção:

Re: [OT] VPN ikec - postrouting iptables

2018-10-16 Thread Matias Mucciolo
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:03:59 AM -03 Matias Mucciolo wrote: > On Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:37:49 PM -03 Debian Forever wrote: > > Buenas, recientemente he montado un servidor bajo debian el cual lo > > quiero para montar una VPN usando el software ikec. > > > > Lo tengo todo montado,

Re: [OT] VPN ikec - postrouting iptables

2018-10-16 Thread Matias Mucciolo
On Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:37:49 PM -03 Debian Forever wrote: > Buenas, recientemente he montado un servidor bajo debian el cual lo > quiero para montar una VPN usando el software ikec. > > Lo tengo todo montado, conecta sin problemas y llego a los hosts > internos a través de la conexión VPN

Apache Dependancy hell with mpm_prefork and mpm_itk

2018-10-16 Thread Eggert Ehmke
Seems I am in dependancy hell. Any way out? My system: Debian 9.5, Apache 2.4.25, PHP 7.2 php7.2-fpm enabled. I have several virtual hosts, that run as different users. So I need mpm_itk in my vhost config: ERROR: The following modules depend on mpm_prefork and need to be disabled

Re: [DEBIAN-BR] Proposta para renomear as listas *-portuguese para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Ênio Júnior
A lingua que falamos é português, tanto em Angola, Moçambique, Cabo Verde, Macau, Guiné, Timor Leste... se criarmos uma lista pra cada falante... Em seg, 15 de out de 2018 19:12, Gilberto F da Silva <2458...@gmail.com> escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Oct

Re: Unattended Upgrades question

2018-10-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 07:42:56 +0200 john doe wrote: Hello john, >I'll never understand why being so drastic is a good idea when you can >simply disable it: Combinations of the following come to mind. Could well be more. No doubt, you and others can come up with reasons to keep it. We all

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:59:36 +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a écrit : > Good afternoon from Singapore, Hello. > What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux > distros? Hard question, but you might found some informations if you dig in the archives of this ML.

Re: Disable and Enable Screensaver via Bash Script

2018-10-16 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/16/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:51:48PM +, Matthew Crews wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Currently I am running Stretch with XFCE (window manager is XFWM4). I >> presently use Xscreensaver for my screen saver. Caffeine indicator >> doesn't work with XFCE as far as

Re: gimp usage

2018-10-16 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le mardi 16 octobre 2018, 12:37:14 CEST hamster a écrit : > Le 16/10/2018 à 03:50, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > > merci beaucoup pour avoir fait le travail, mais je préfère que > > l'on me donne la méthode pour y arriver afin que je puisse > > le reproduire ... > > J'ai appris avec la doc de

Re: gimp usage

2018-10-16 Thread hamster
Le 16/10/2018 à 03:50, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > merci beaucoup pour avoir fait le travail, mais je préfère que > l'on me donne la méthode pour y arriver afin que je puisse > le reproduire ... J'ai appris avec la doc de gimp et beaucoup de tatonnements.

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread William Pereira de Paula
Sou a favor da separação da lista para tradução somente. * *William Pereira de Paula * * (67)9 9891-1106 * * williamkbl...@gmail.com *

Re: Latest Thunderbird update breaks multiple plugins

2018-10-16 Thread Martin
Am 16.10.18 um 11:24 schrieb Adam Weremczuk: > Hi Martin, > > I suffered this pain earlier this morning on Ubuntu 16.04. > > For Lightning you might tried to substitute it with "xul-ext-lightning" but I > ended up removing Thunderbird and rolled back to 52.9 >

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Martin
Am 16.10.18 um 11:56 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:09:39AM +0200, Martin wrote: >>>     sudo su - www-data -s /bin/sh >> >> Don't use sudo with su. It is evil. >> You want to use 'sudo -i' in this case. > > Fascism is evil. This is just unnecessary. Good point. > >

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:09:39AM +0200, Martin wrote: sudo su - www-data -s /bin/sh Don't use sudo with su. It is evil. You want to use 'sudo -i' in this case. Fascism is evil. This is just unnecessary. (I'm guilty of still typing "sudo su -" via muscle memory even after your messages

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

2018-10-16 Thread Marcos Egito - Gmail
Depois de ler toda a discussão e os argumentos, Concordo com o Márcio. E aproveito para dar os parabéns ao PH, por ter feito a lista voltar aos velhos tempos de movimentação! Abraço! Em seg, 15 de out de 2018 17:33, Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro < marcioviniciu...@gmail.com> escreveu: > Também

Re: Latest Thunderbird update breaks multiple plugins

2018-10-16 Thread Adam Weremczuk
Hi Martin, I suffered this pain earlier this morning on Ubuntu 16.04. For Lightning you might tried to substitute it with "xul-ext-lightning" but I ended up removing Thunderbird and rolled back to 52.9

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:01:46AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: [...] > If sysvinit was removed from Debian, than this would increase the amount > of work for Devuan quite significantly, because lots of individual > Debian packages that currently implement sysvinit support would slowly > start

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 09:58:30AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 9:42 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote: It's currently at risk by a lack of maintainers for the sysvinit package. Does this mean that Devuan is also at risk? I can merely speculate. I know very little about

Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:17:41AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Sorry for the very unspecific answers. If you'd like more specific ones, I'd advise to pose more specific questions. Indeed, likewise it's hard to add much to such an un-specific question, all I can think of to add is: On Tue,

Re: gimp usage

2018-10-16 Thread Francois Boisson
> merci pour le conseil, mais j'ai oublié d'indiquer que > j'utilise gimp 2.10 en français ... > . > et je n'ai pas trouvé cette fonction qui est installée > chez moi ... Le tutotriel: https://www.scriptol.fr/design/gimp/tutoriel-resynthesizer.php ou encore (avec installation)

Re: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied

2018-10-16 Thread Joe
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:06:39 +0200 Martin wrote: > Am 16.10.18 um 07:31 schrieb steve: > > Hi there, > > > > Purged and then reinstalled apache2 and when I want to start > > apache2, here's what I get: > > > > # systemctl status apache2.service > > What is your 'id'? > > > ●

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