Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 19:07:46 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 15 September 2016 13:38:49 Brian wrote: > > On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 11:01:12 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Are you deliberately remaining uncontactable off list? You must be > > > sending > > > > I am not uncontactable. > > > >

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 15 September 2016 13:38:49 Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 11:01:12 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Are you deliberately remaining uncontactable off list? You must be > > sending > > I am not uncontactable. > > > from one email address and receiving to another, since the email

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 11:01:12 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Are you deliberately remaining uncontactable off list? You must be sending I am not uncontactable. > from one email address and receiving to another, since the email address > still doesn't work, and you are

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 15 September 2016 00:50:25 Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 00:33:09 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 September 2016 23:09:12 Brian wrote: > > > >        Ah. That's good.  Your E-mail reader seems to respect my > > > > indentations.  Others don't, alas.  Do you

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Brian" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:09:12 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > What is "unenlightening" to you may not be unenlightening to others; > trust

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 00:33:09 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 14 September 2016 23:09:12 Brian wrote: > > >        Ah. That's good.  Your E-mail reader seems to respect my > > > indentations.  Others don't, alas.  Do you perchance use mutt? > > Indentations count as formatting. Plain

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 23:09:12 Brian wrote: > >        Ah. That's good.  Your E-mail reader seems to respect my > > indentations.  Others don't, alas.  Do you perchance use mutt? Indentations count as formatting. Plain text is supposed not to preserve formatting. Lisi

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 17:11:26 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: Alan McConnell's responses are indented and begin with >. > From: "Brian" Brian's resonses are not indented. > > > Yep. I have been back to my Jessie in the meantime, and run > > os-prober. > >

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Brian" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:51:50 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 11:34:31 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > From: "Felix

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Lisi Reisz" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:05:47 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved On Wednesday 14 September 2016 19:51:50 Brian wrote: > You are probably

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 19:51:50 Brian wrote: > You are probably asking the wrong question. Oh, no, Brian. He is asking the right question by definition. Alan is asking it, it is therefore right. We are providing the wrong answers. And to make matters worse we are doing so in Old

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 11:34:31 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > From: "Felix Miata" > > It does seem curious that the Debian installer would need knowledge of a > particular Windows version in order to provide a boot menu selection for it, > rather than simply having one

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 16:34:31 Alan McConnell wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Felix Miata" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:44:14 AM > Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > >

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Felix Miata" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:44:14 AM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-13 20:50 (UTC-0400): > when my home

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 02:44:14 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-13 20:50 (UTC-0400): > ... > >But maybe someone > >can tell me why the installer can't look at the partitions and determine > >that there > >is some kind of OS already installed? Why does it have to

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 01:50:44 Alan McConnell wrote: >Re Royal Holloway: boys were added in 1966, a year before my time > there. But there were always male faculty there, especially in math, which > subject has, most unfortunately, suffered from a dearth of qualified women. >

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 01:50:44 Alan McConnell wrote: > More perhaps tomorrow.  I have tasks to perform before bed.  But maybe > someone can tell me why the installer can't look at the partitions and > determine that there is some kind of OS already installed?  Why does it > have to know

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-14 Thread Felix Miata
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-13 20:50 (UTC-0400): Lisi Reisz composed: Gene Heskett wrote: Now I am going to push back Alan. If you are going to come in here and berate folks about this and that, the first thing you need to do is to train your email agent (wth is "X-Mailer:

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Lisi Reisz" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 3:58:01 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved On Tuesday 13 September 2016 18:24:07 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 13

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 13 Sep 2016 at 21:02:01 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2016 20:30:20 Brian wrote: > > > A final question:  I've used Wiktionary to learn that 'whinging' is the > > > English for what we Murricans call 'whining'.  Is it used a lot nowadays? > > >  I don't recall ever

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 13 September 2016 18:24:07 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2016 08:57:19 Alan McConnell wrote: > > Warning: This E-mail is for the most part in the nature of a pushback > > against various insinuations that have been made. > > Now I am going to push back Alan. > > If you

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 13 September 2016 20:30:20 Brian wrote: > > A final question:  I've used Wiktionary to learn that 'whinging' is the > > English for what we Murricans call 'whining'.  Is it used a lot nowadays? > >  I don't recall ever having heard it when I taught at Royal Holloway > > College back in

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread David Wright
On Mon 12 Sep 2016 at 14:14:53 (-0400), Alan McConnell wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Felix Miata" > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:14:26 PM > Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > > David Wright composed on 2016-09-11

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Sep 2016 at 13:01:58 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > You were asked for some information. You declined to provide it. As a > route to solving a technical problem your response leaves a lot to be > desired. > Did you read why I declined? I repeat my reason for your benefit: I

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread David Wright
On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 23:14:26 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2016-09-11 21:44 (UTC-0500): > ... > >>Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > ... > How is it beneficial to list anyone here or searching list archives > to continue a thread by

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 13 September 2016 08:57:19 Alan McConnell wrote: > Warning: This E-mail is for the most part in the nature of a pushback > against various insinuations that have been made. > Now I am going to push back Alan. If you are going to come in here and berate folks about this and that, the

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 13 September 2016 18:01:58 Alan McConnell wrote: > > Finally:  I have taken a resolution not to respond to further > > chastisement or smarm. Please help me to keep it! What a pity you didn't! What happened to your self control?? Lisi

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Brian" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:40:11 AM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved On Tue 13 Sep 2016 at 08:57:19 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > Warning: This

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Sep 2016 at 08:57:19 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > Warning: This E-mail is for the most part in the nature of a pushback against > various insinuations that have been made. Warning duly noted; most of this mail is snipped so we can concentrate on the technical aspects of your

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-13 Thread Alan McConnell
Warning: This E-mail is for the most part in the nature of a pushback against various insinuations that have been made. - Original Message - From: "Lisi Reisz" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:38:56 PM Subject: Re: How to get

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 12 September 2016 19:14:53 Alan McConnell wrote: > Maybe I should apologize for "hijacking a thread"? Yes, you should. It has left the person whose thread you have hijacked high and dry. It is most definitely "not done" to hijack threads. By those who care about etiquette and other

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-12 Thread Brian
On Mon 12 Sep 2016 at 14:14:53 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > From: "Felix Miata" > ... > How is it beneficial to list anyone here or searching list archives to > continue a thread by chastising an OP for being imperfect more than 12 hours > after OP added string

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-12 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Felix Miata" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:14:26 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved David Wright composed on 2016-09-11 21:44 (UTC-0500): ... >> Subject: Re:

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 September 2016 20:51:50 Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:17:00 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > > Addendum: during my Jessie install, the install program commented at > > > one point: "There doesn't seem to be any

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-12 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 23:14:26 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2016-09-11 21:44 (UTC-0500): > ... > >>Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > ... > How is it beneficial to list anyone here or searching list archives to > continue a thread by

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2016-09-11 21:44 (UTC-0500): ... Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved ... How is it beneficial to list anyone here or searching list archives to continue a thread by chastising an OP for being imperfect more than 12 hours after OP added

Re: Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread David Wright
On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:49:47 (-0400), Alan McConnell wrote: > From: "Brian" > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:51:50 PM > Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > > On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:17:00 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > > On Sun

Re: Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 06:49:47PM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > Deconstruction of this statement follows: > Brian, you are in a bad temper. Did you read the amended title of > this > and previous messages? "Problem solved". > > Suggestion: simply don't reply to any of

Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread Alan McConnell
I tried to send this only to Brian, but he has set his system to not accept messages to him. So I have to send this to the whole List. Sorry. - Forwarded Message - From: "Alan McConnell" To: "Brian" Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:38:06 PM

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:17:00 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > > Addendum: during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one > > point: > > "There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system". Jeez!! I hope some >

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Brian" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:32:54 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > Addendum: during my

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 11:13:45 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > Addendum: during my Jessie install, the install program commented at one > point: > "There doesn't seem to be any other OS on your system". Jeez!! I hope some > maintainer reads this complaint and Debian works hard to make sure

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved

2016-09-11 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Felix Miata" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:33:46 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-10 17:45 (UTC-0400): > Good grief. I just wrote that I

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-10 Thread Felix Miata
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-10 17:45 (UTC-0400): Good grief. I just wrote that I am now logged in to a working jessie. So I can run any kind of apt-get, aptitude, etc. So I repeat: apt-cache search grub gives me lots of grub files to install. Do I want to install a different grub?

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 05:45:51PM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:38:11 PM > Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time > . . . .

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-10 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Brian" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:38:11 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time . . . . > could install. So I ask again, this time from a position of being able to >

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 Sep 2016 at 11:40:28 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > > Boot your install medium - enter rescue mode - reinstall grub? > I tried Rescue Mode. Maybe I'm not doing it right, but I got thrown > into > "Chose language", "Choose Keyboard" . . . just as if I were doing a >

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-10 Thread Alan McConnell
(Please excuse my cc to Mr Cater) - Original Message - From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:42:28 PM Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 01:58:03PM -0400, Alan

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 01:58:03PM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > This one should be _real_ easy! > > Two days ago, my hard drive on my (now) discarded computer gave up the ghost. > After consideration, and advice from friends, I went out to Staples and bought > a Dell, with Windoze installed.

Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-09 Thread Felix Miata
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-09 13:58 (UTC-0400): Two days ago, my hard drive on my (now) discarded computer gave up the ghost. After consideration, and advice from friends, I went out to Staples and bought a Dell, with Windoze installed. I hooked up everything and Windoze boots OK, my

How to get Jessie to run at boot time

2016-09-09 Thread Alan McConnell
This one should be _real_ easy! Two days ago, my hard drive on my (now) discarded computer gave up the ghost. After consideration, and advice from friends, I went out to Staples and bought a Dell, with Windoze installed. I hooked up everything and Windoze boots OK, my sound works, etc. This