Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 08:26:55PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 17/05/2024 18:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: > > > > https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It > > > > converts > > > > (relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. > > >

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/05/2024 18:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It converts (relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. I put html2text.py into $HOME/lib and use this to call it: #!/bin/sh # [...]

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:25:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > >> into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for > >> that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Chip Smith
don't have the time.  I've also never really used Emacs as I came over to GNU/Linux from the later generations of the 9.x series of Windows in the early to mid 2000;s. On 5/17/24 20:31, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/05/2024 02:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/05/2024 02:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. Please don't settle for markdown. I would love a org

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:25:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > >> into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for > >> that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML >> into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for >> that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. > Please don't settle for markdown. I would love a org filter! &g

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 12:43:49PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: > >https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It converts > >(relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. > > > >I put html2text.py into $HOME/lib and use this to call it: >

Re: mail tags in kmail?

2024-05-17 Thread Anssi Saari
Hans writes: > Dear list, > > does anyone know, where kmail is storing its tags for mails? The tags I mean > are those like "already read". I've never done that but maybe this helps, from https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kmail/kmail2/faq.html#transfer-mail-and-settings: 6

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It converts (relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. I put html2text.py into $HOME/lib and use this to call it: #!/bin/sh # I am puzzled by this wrapper. I expect that "$@" is

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 09:48:23AM -0400, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for > that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. htt

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/05/2024 20:47, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. I am not familiar with pandoc features enough

mail tags in kmail?

2024-05-16 Thread Hans
Dear list, does anyone know, where kmail is storing its tags for mails? The tags I mean are those like "already read". Background: When I rsync the folder with my mails, which is here ~/.kde/ share/apps/kmail/mail , to another computer, then all new mails are tagged as

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-05-16, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> When this sort of subject comes up (as it does, every so often), I wonder >> why `text/markdown` isn't offered as a mime type for sending emails. > > FWIW, last time I tried to send `text/(x-)markdown` messages, Attribute quotes accurately.

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Henning Follmann
plain to their > > MUA's authors (most of those MUAs are of course proprietary and are not > > very ... responsive, but that's all we can do). > > Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristi

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread tomas
ot > very ... responsive, but that's all we can do). Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. > > The stupidest case I bumped into is Git

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> When this sort of subject comes up (as it does, every so often), I wonder > why `text/markdown` isn't offered as a mime type for sending emails. FWIW, last time I tried to send `text/(x-)markdown` messages, I discovered that many "popular" MUAs do not display those at all (they treat them as

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-15 Thread David
On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 15:57 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On 15/05/2024 03:17, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > > > > > > Messages in

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On 15/05/2024 03:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-14 Thread eben
to markdown. However sometimes I use them not expecting that the message will be rendered as markdown. Just to avoid ambiguity where a piece of code starts and ends. If your mail path is sufficiently modern, you might be able to use Unicode subscripts₁ and superscripts². But, they're kind of a pain

Markup in mail messages (was: Re: OT: Top Posting)

2024-05-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being placed

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread David Wright
an issue. > > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages > on the server? Well, sorting by Date, mutt lists your post at position: 33858 L 231118 Peter Ehlert (1.2K) Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail out of a total of 33910 on the

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:15:56 -0600 Mike McClain wrote: Hello Mike, >A second item that's slightly off topic, I've had no luck setting >up claws-mail to send out through frontier.net and if anyone knows how >to do that I'd appreciate the claws-mail setup for it. Without knowing wh

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 20 November 2023 11:15:56 am Mike McClain wrote: > Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from > gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all > messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. That's exactly what I'm

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Tixy
ssage making that point several years ago, I'm sure I've mentioned that here before. I did it in my last job as my employer used Google for mail, so I just forwarded everything to an email account on my email server at home. -- Tixy

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Mike McClain
into gmail but get all messages sent to my gmail accounts by others. A second item that's slightly off topic, I've had no luck setting up claws-mail to send out through frontier.net and if anyone knows how to do that I'd appreciate the claws-mail setup for it. Thanks, Mike -- Telling pious

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On 19/11/2023 17:50, Tixy wrote: On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 07:58 -0800, Peter Ehlert wrote: Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have local copies of almost everything, for Me to filter

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 07:58 -0800, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > > messages > > on the server? > My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have > local > copies of almost everything

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Peter Ehlert
ot; seems to reverse the definitions! I don't know who to trust I really want to keep messages on their server, space is Not an issue. Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have local copies

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread peter ehlert
will message their support and help them correct their error. thanks for listening. Peter Ehlert On 11/18/23 09:06, peter ehlert wrote: damn! I forgot... not able to receive on my POP mail accounts! now using the hateful Gmail... maybe that's why Thunderbird can't use a mailing list, they don't

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 11:57:03 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:31:31 + >Brad Rogers wrote: >> Can be altered in Prefs. >> Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. >Thank you. I never told it to do that. I think (but don't quote me) it's the

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >currently, selecting an email in the list marks it as read, which is not Can be altered in Prefs. Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sun 19 Nov 2023 at 04:29:57 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: > > > If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server > > using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may > > help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local server, it does not return any information from that port, only on 143.

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 08:04, jeremy ardley wrote: On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a server or

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a server or event insert new messages. This is

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: > Claws cannot compose HTML emails, which may be a showstopper for you. > It can display HTML, though I always use plain text. If I really need > to see HTML, such as when an unsubscribe link is buried in 100K of > useless markup, I use a webmail

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 03:58:20PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Will this work? > > symlink /var/mail/paulf to /home/paulf/Mail/in > > ln -vs /home/paulf/Mail/in /var/mail/paulf I wouldn't expect it to work. Most programs that try to deliver to an mbox file like /var/mail/username w

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Pocket
On 11/18/23 07:44, Paul M Foster wrote: Folks: After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in. I could run a POP server

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Joe
ot an issue. > > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > messages on the server? Yes, IMAP is server-oriented, POP3 is single-client oriented. It's not unusual for me to have my IMAP account open in more than one client simultaneously. If you're having problems, it ma

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Alex
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:58:41 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > messages on the server? That's why IMAP exists to begin with. IMAP was made to make it possible for multiple clients to manage the same mailbox[1]. IMAP c

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread peter ehlert
damn! I forgot... not able to receive on my POP mail accounts! now using the hateful Gmail... maybe that's why Thunderbird can't use a mailing list, they don't trust their own email app. Eff Them! On 11/18/23 08:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: thread back from the dead: first, thanks for all

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Peter Ehlert
to webmasters dot com IMP vs POP ...the "web" seems to reverse the definitions! I don't know who to trust I really want to keep messages on their server, space is Not an issue. Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? On 8/15/23 09:43, Peter Eh

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M Foster wrote: > Also worth noting that I have exim installed, which handles the cron job > emails, and puts them, by default into the standard location, > /var/mail/paulf. Missed this. You can either have exim hand off to maildrop, or deliver where you want via a .forward fil

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M Foster wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 09:29:02AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of > > > going > > > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've enc

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:15:42AM -0500 schrieb Paul M Foster: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 09:29:02AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of > > > going > > > back

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:15:42AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > This would be okay if all my mail was delivered to that spool file, but it > isn't. Fetchmail hands off (internet) mail to maildrop, which puts in my > spool file at /home/paulf/Mail/in. That's where mutt thinks my s

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 09:29:02AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: > > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going > > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get > > local mail in /var/mail/pa

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M Foster wrote: > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get > local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in. > > I could run a POP server, and

Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks: After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in. I could run a POP server, and have fetchmail query it like any other

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-14 Thread Curt
On 2023-11-13, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: > > I believe gmail _requires_ OAUTH2 authorisation for "non-secure apps" > nowadays - which is pretty much all apps except gmails own. AFAIK, gmail still supports application-specific passwords.

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
ude exim4, postfix or anything supplying sendmail > and fetchmail won't work without an MTA. >I've set up several accounts in claws-mail for email accounts at att.net > and gmail.com but so far haven't got them right to the point that claws-mail > will collect mail from any of those a

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Karen Lewellen
no difference. To whom? The OP's problem, or hypothetically? Many people prefer IMAP, certainly. Equally, there are those that prefer POP3 - myself among them. Of course, with google, it's largely academic; They keep them all, anyway. It might be a good idea to join the Claws-Mail mailing

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
POP3 and IMAP (etc, etc.) are protocols CM handles well. It also makes no difference to OP, personal preference aside, of course. >It might be a good idea to join the Claws-Mail mailing list. I think Already on it. Although I rarely post there these days. Never when it comes to setting up goo

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Marco Moock
Am 13.11.2023 um 07:09:55 Uhr schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > It might be a good idea to join the Claws-Mail mailing list. I think > you will find there is a difference in the level of support for POP3 > and IMAP. There are usually several messages a month about the > differences. Can you

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
hypothetically? > Many people prefer IMAP, certainly. Equally, there are those that > prefer POP3 - myself among them. Of course, with google, it's largely > academic; They keep them all, anyway. It might be a good idea to join the Claws-Mail mailing list. I think you will find there

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 05:22:13 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >I seem to recall IMAP is a better choice than POP when using Claws. It makes no difference. Many people prefer IMAP, certainly. Equally, there are those that prefer POP3 - myself among them. Of course, with google,

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Joe
+rpt2 (2023-10-05) aarch64 GNU/Linux This install didn't > > include exim4, postfix or anything supplying sendmail and fetchmail > > won't work without an MTA. I've set up several accounts in > > claws-mail for email accounts at att.net and gmail.com but so far > > haven't got th

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ng supplying sendmail > and fetchmail won't work without an MTA. > I've set up several accounts in claws-mail for email accounts at att.net > and gmail.com but so far haven't got them right to the point that claws-mail > will collect mail from any of those accounts via P

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-12 Thread Marco Moock
I've set up several accounts in claws-mail for email > accounts at att.net and gmail.com but so far haven't got them right > to the point that claws-mail will collect mail from any of those > accounts via POP mail. Claws mail directly supports IMAP, POP3, SMTP and NNTP without an MTA o

Re: claws-mail

2023-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:39:02 + (UTC) mike.junk...@att.net wrote: Hello mike.junk...@att.net, >I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to get claws-mail working Head over to https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Maybe even subscribe to their list. Expect to have to g

claws-mail

2023-11-12 Thread mike . junk . 46
've set up several accounts in claws-mail for email accounts at att.net and gmail.com but so far haven't got them right to the point that claws-mail will collect mail from any of those accounts via POP mail. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to get claws-mail working, so far the o

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-12 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sat 11 Nov 2023, at 20:56, Thomas Schmitt wrote: On Sat 11 Nov 2023, at 20:23, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> Telnet to bendel, port 25. Wait for the banner. Type "EHLO your.domain". >> Type "quit" to get out. > > The protocol is named SMTP. >

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 08:16:20PM +, Gareth Evans wrote: > > > On 9 Nov 2023, at 13:47, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > > > > > 220 bendel.debian.org ESMTP Postfix > > > ehlo penguin > > > 250-bendel.debian.org > > > 250-PIPELINING > > > 250-SIZE 3072 > > > 250-STARTTLS > > >

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 08:16:20PM +, Gareth Evans wrote: > > On 9 Nov 2023, at 13:47, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > > > 220 bendel.debian.org ESMTP Postfix > > ehlo penguin > > 250-bendel.debian.org > > 250-PIPELINING > > 250-SIZE 3072 > > 250-STARTTLS > > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > >

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-11 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 9 Nov 2023, at 13:47, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > [...] > > 220 bendel.debian.org ESMTP Postfix > ehlo penguin > 250-bendel.debian.org > 250-PIPELINING > 250-SIZE 3072 > 250-STARTTLS > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-8BITMIME > 250 CHUNKING > quit > 221 2.0.0 Bye > Hi Byung-Hee,

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 19:01:57 -0600 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Hello Nicholas, > >Or maybe they are used to the more recently-devised file sharing >services which let you exchange zillions of much larger files than this >list allows, but every hour. On any given day I might listen to several

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 07:01:57PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 4:54 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:10:12 +0800 > > hlyg wrote: > > > > Hello hlyg, > > > > (sweeping generalisation coming) > > People that upload such images are lazy, arrogant,

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 4:54 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:10:12 +0800 > hlyg wrote: > > Hello hlyg, > > (sweeping generalisation coming) > People that upload such images are lazy, arrogant, and suffer > from a massive sense of entitlement. > Or maybe they are used to the

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 06:40:45AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > But whose list admins. My suspicion lies with the Outlook ones > (either they don't signal the rejection, or they eat the bounce, > or they had an Azure dropout or whatever). They are known to > behave erratically already. I see

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:10:12 +0800 hlyg wrote: Hello hlyg, >how do you defend debian's vagueness that Large attachments are >discouraged? It's not really a matter of vagueness on Debian's part, but politeness on the sender's part. It's easy to forget that not everyone has an always on,

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-10 Thread hlyg
t you" (in reality rather to protect their business model). Perhaps they bounce the bounce message (Microsoft is like that) and then you'll never know your mail got lost. As things stand I trust the Debian mail admins more than the Outlook ones to play by the rules [1]. Much, much more. Cheers [1] one

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 11:40:17AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 01:47:01PM +, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 02:04:39AM -0500, hlyg wrote: > > > list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe > > &

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 08:43:09AM +0800, hlyg wrote: > On 11/9/23 22:13, Marco M. wrote: > > > > > The MX MTA of the debian-users mailing list shouldn't accept an email > > that is too larger and should reject it with a proper 5xx message, so > > you know what

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread hlyg
On 11/9/23 22:13, Marco M. wrote: The MX MTA of the debian-users mailing list shouldn't accept an email that is too larger and should reject it with a proper 5xx message, so you know what happened. problem mail is in Sent folder in Thunderbird(tb), it means that tb has sent it successfully

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 01:47:01PM +, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 02:04:39AM -0500, hlyg wrote: > > list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe > > > > what is max size of attachment allowed in list? Thanks! > This

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 09.11.2023 um 18:17:31 Uhr schrieb hlyg: > i think they shall be more specific about "large" The MX MTA of the debian-users mailing list shouldn't accept an email that is too larger and should reject it with a proper 5xx message, so you know what happened.

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 02:04:39AM -0500, hlyg wrote: > list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe > > what is max size of attachment allowed in list? Thanks! > Hellow, This is my guess: 220 bendel.debian.org ESMTP Postfix ehlo penguin 250-bendel.de

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread hlyg
using paste.debian.net and including a link in your post. Thank Max! it's photo file, more than 1 MB, i have used jpeg format, which use compression i think they shall be more specific about "large" PS: my problem in that mail has been solved

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. hlyg (12023-11-09): > list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe Good, I do not want to receive big attachments from mailing-lists — and no attachments at all from this one. And I am far from alone in that aspect. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/11/2023 14:04, hlyg wrote: list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ Code of conduct - Avoid sending large attachments. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips Posting Rules

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread hlyg
On 11/9/23 03:42, Marco M. wrote: Am 09.11.2023 um 02:04:39 Uhr schrieb hlyg: What is the exact message in the bounce mail you got? i haven't received bounce mail

Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 09.11.2023 um 02:04:39 Uhr schrieb hlyg: > list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i > believe What is the exact message in the bounce mail you got?

limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread hlyg
list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe what is max size of attachment allowed in list? Thanks!

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-26 Thread Curt
from outside my host? A0701: Exim uses Access Control Lists (ACLs) for controlling incoming mail from other hosts. A whole chapter in the reference manual is devoted to describing how they work. A wide variety of conditions can be imposed on incoming messages. The default Exim run time c

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 9/25/23 17:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 04:49:52PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Lastly, do I understand correctly that the root of this whole issue is simply misformed headers in the original spam mail that I receive at my Dreamhost account? Oh, and does all this lead

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 04:49:52PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > Lastly, do I understand correctly that the root of this whole issue is > simply misformed headers in the original spam mail that I receive at my > Dreamhost account? Oh, and does all this lead to the "Frozen Messa

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 9/25/23 14:58, Rick Macdonald wrote: Some of the mail in the queue is up to 4 days old. I'm going to clear it all out to see what new arrives in this state. I've made a bit of progress. First, I deleted the almost 6000 messages in the mail queue: # mailq | grep 1q | cut -c11-26 | xargs

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Rick Macdonald
this bounce message back: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 12:24:52PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: # exim4 -Mvb 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V-D --foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801 Content-Type: text/plain This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 9/25/23 12:42, Michael Kjörling wrote: The following address(es) failed: rickm@localhost    SMTP error: 550 header syntax So something running on your local system almost certainly tried to send mail to either "rickm" or "rickm@localhost", and that triggered queu

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 08:25:48PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > You can remove them from your mail queue with: > > # eim4 -Mrm typo of "exim4" -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Andy Smith
, 2023 at 12:24:52PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > # exim4 -Mvb 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V > > 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V-D > --foo-mani-padme-hum-306716-2546159-1695559801 > Content-Type: text/plain > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
ur system. Good. > 2023-09-25 06:41:16 6595-611-17423-903-rickm=timshel...@mail.turntext.co > R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-45) H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net > [64.59.136.142]: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<> > SIZE=3752: 451 <> server t

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 9/25/23 08:29, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 24 Sep 2023 20:58 -0600, from rickm...@shaw.ca (Rick Macdonald): My /var/log/.exim4/log file is flooded with messages such as shown below. I'm not trying to send mail to any of those .co or .com addresses. I use my ISP (shaw.ca cable provider

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Rick Macdonald
ely. That might give you some more hints. Thanks Andy!  Here are those lists: # exim4 -Mvl 1qkOYj-001Hnf-2V 2023-09-24 06:50:01 Received from <> H=(timshel) [::1] P=smtp S=2662 2023-09-24 06:50:05 H=shawmail.glb.shawcable.net [64.59.128.135]: SMTP error from remote mail server after M

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Andy Smith
set to <6626-879-8427-40-rickm=timshel...@mail.purecuresol.co> which implies they might have sent it TO (an address for you encoded in their envelope sender so they can track bounces), which might be you. Perhaps your system is trying to send a response to a mail you have received. Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 24 Sep 2023 20:58 -0600, from rickm...@shaw.ca (Rick Macdonald): > My /var/log/.exim4/log file is flooded with messages such as shown below. > I'm not trying to send mail to any of those .co or .com addresses. I use my > ISP (shaw.ca cable provider) as a smarthost. > > Are peopl

Are people trying to relay mail through my system?

2023-09-24 Thread Rick Macdonald
My /var/log/.exim4/log file is flooded with messages such as shown below. I'm not trying to send mail to any of those .co or .com addresses. I use my ISP (shaw.ca cable provider) as a smarthost. Are people trying to use my system as a relay? If so, can I block them without cutting myself

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-29 Thread Frank Lanitz
Hi, On 15.08.23 21:48, Russell L. Harris wrote: Consider evolution. Tried it. Used >6GB RAM. .f OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: HS: test après coupure du mail.

2023-08-23 Thread Informatique BILLARD
Bonjour oui cela ne m'est pas venu à l'esprit. Cordialement Le 23/08/2023 à 15:57, François TOURDE a écrit : Le 19592ième jour après Epoch, Informatique BILLARD écrivait: Test François-Marie Selon https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct il faut éviter d'envoyer ce genre de

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