Re: please use V
Please note: the following is in no way intended as flame to Bruce, Debian, or the FSF... [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: From: William Burrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] While the Qt authors may have different concerns than Knuth does over TeX, the idea may be the same: modified versions may reflect badly on Troll Tech. I understand their concern, I just don't share it. Debian doesn't place this sort of restriction on the system. I think I'll encourage people to use V - it's GPL-ed and arguing about Qt's license just isn't our job. For sure, the GPL is great in many respects. Unfortunately, it doesn't address tumors like Micro$oft that continue to stunt the growth of computing, and in particular here, diminish the significance of open standards and freeware. It's difficult enough to promote freeware in industry with the common lack of support misperception. Combine this with M$'s current position in the market and in a large percentage of the corporate and household mind-set. Then port and donate the same great freeware that runs under Unix/X11 to the Windows* environment. A highly needed competitive edge is lost for all that embrace/promote it. Or, in other words, donating freeware with a GPL doesn't necessarily help steer people to open standards, the FSF philosophy, etc. the way that it could. IMHO, a license like Qt's is long overdue. It makes a fine commercial product available to both X11 and Win32, yet it provides a great mechanism to promote freeware/open standards like Unix/X11 *over* propriety ones. Troll's reasoning for not allowing modified versions may not include this rationale, but I am certainly tickled pink to see it for this very reason. Please work with Troll on this -- you may find that there's no need to argue at all. Tom Julien [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please do not use Qt (fwd)
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: Thanks Lars and Craig for your great inputs on the subject. This will be my last follow up to this subject on the mailing lists. I do think that the discussion should not continue on these ml's. If you want to continue you are welcome to join the kde ml, or mail me privately. MANY people (including many of the debian development team) will just plain refuse to use, recommend, or support kde IF it is based on a non-freeware library like Qt. This is true in the debian community, the linux community, and also in the rest of the unix using community. I do understand this point fully. A gpled gui lib is to be prefered no way! This being the case, the only noticeable result of kde will be further fragmentation of the unix/X GUI standards. I do still believe that it is a step in the right direction. I would like to achieve something similar to the license use by Alladin for ghostscript. IMO, the goal of kde is well-meaning but severely flawed. For it to be THE killer GUI for X it has to: a) be truly free in the Debian or FSF or BSD or Artistic license sense of the word free. Qt automatically disqualifies kde from this. Yes you are right. Qt can be used without limits for any gnu/debian projects, but if people want to use their skills they aquired by developing for GNU/FSF/Debian they have to pay for a commercial license in order to be allowed to distribute their non gpled, non source payware. Another severe limitation is the fact that you are not allowed to distribute altered versions of the library. GNU people want to fix the bugs they do discover. They tend to send the patches to the main maintainers. The Troll people tend to include reasonable patches but do not give any guaranty. Due to the fact that the internal structures of Qt are open it is more easy to work around some limitations/problems. Also the fact that Qt is object oriented give the programmers some relief. The kde project tries to encapsulate moste of the functionality by kclasses. In the beginning most of these classes are wrappers around the original qclasses. Some stuff has already been completely replaced. E.g. there is now a kfileselector which natively understands URLs. It is beeing used by the kde apps including the kde filemanager. So any app can laod/save to http: file: and ftp: ressources... If the kde people get fed up by Qt they have mainly to change their kdelib(which provides the extra functionality and the wrappers). b) be *at least* as functional complete as Motif, Tk, Athena, and fvwm. Please have a look at kwm (the kde windowmanager) and especially at kfm(the very nice looking AND feeling filemanager) Qt got quite far until now. It is actively developed. The functionality increases at rapid speed. c) support or be mostly compatible with existing standards, allowing for trivially easy ports from old libraries to kde. It is always a diffcult task to port X stuff to different GUIs. d) be fast First test seem to show that Qt is surprisingly fast. It uses shared libs widly. It is definetely much faster than tk. e) be significantly better and easier to program in that any of the alternatives. Oh this seems to be really the case. Please have a look at the source code of some of the programs ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde f) not get in the way of (or make arbitrarily difficult) the ability to install, use, and develop for non-kde environments. I sure as hell am not going to install kde if it means I have to give up fvwm95 or any of my tk/motif/athena based apps. YOu definetely do not have to give up anything. But you may prefer to have a common look feel on your desktop. This might be the reason for some people to change their their acustomed apps to kapps. This is especially true for X11 newbies. But you can without hassle share kde and non kde apps on the same desktop. CutPaste via X11 Co. will still work... g) have an enormous library of available applications. kde is still very young (beginning of october) There is already: a calculatorkcalc (far more functional than xcalc!!) a cdrom player kscd (based on workman, about 6hours work) a clock kclock (one of the very first apps :-) a filemanager kfm(fully functional, BeBox inspired, fully URL!!) a minesweeper kmines (better than the Win Version ;-)) a solitaire kpat (another Win inspired game) a tetris clone ktetris a corel clone colia (soon to be integrated with LyX...) a free xv kview (no manipulation so far, just viewing of graphics) a help system khelp a xterm kvt a Sound Mixer kMix a kde library libkde (developed from Kalle Dalheimer (Staroffice) (This lib handles the Xresources like colors, common code to the apps,...) a window manager kwm a command line interface cli (simialar to the one of Nextstep)
Odd X message
Everything (at this point) under X is working. But... I'm getting a message saying: PEX extension module not loaded XIE extension module not loaded It starting saying that since I upgraded to 3.2 of X. -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd X message
Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything (at this point) under X is working. But... I'm getting a message saying: PEX extension module not loaded XIE extension module not loaded It starting saying that since I upgraded to 3.2 of X. Add this to your XF86Config file: Section Modules Load pex5.so Load xie.so EndSection See XF86Config(5x) for details. You'll also need the xext package installed. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icmpinfo
I'm in need of a TCP/IP expert here to tell me if someone is trying to spoof/ping flood me... I know someone has tried to 'big ping' me several times due to the couldn't get a free page message on my console. I've been running icmpinfo -vvv /tmp/icmplog, and I'm getting alot of ICMP_Dest_Unreachable messages. Is this normal? They're comming mostly from localhost but also from other sites. Could someone please advise me on what to do, or where to get some more info on how to find out where these are comming from? Here are several of the 'pings' I've gotten. Nov 25 18:31:42 ICMP_Dest_Unreachable[Port] 127.0.0.1 [localhost] 127.0.0.1 [localhost] sp=25861 dp=53 seq=0x0033adea sz=79(+20) : 4506 0063 06FD 4001 7595 7F00 0001[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0010 : 7F00 0001 0303 FB43 4500 0047...CE..G 0020 : 06FC 4011 75A8 7F00 0001 7F00 0001[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0030 : 0565 0035 0033 ADEA 001A 0100 0001 .e.5.3.. 0040 : 0136 0236 3103 3130 3203 32 .6.61.102.2 Nov 25 18:18:43 ICMP_Dest_Unreachable[Port] 127.0.0.1 [localhost] 127.0.0.1 [localhost] sp=17669 dp=53 seq=0x00360a1f sz=82(+20) : 4506 0066 069F 4001 75F0 7F00 0001[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0010 : 7F00 0001 0303 FB46 4500 004A...FE..J 0020 : 069E 4011 7603 7F00 0001 7F00 0001[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0030 : 0545 0035 0036 0A1F 000A 0100 0001 .E.5.6.. 0040 : 0332 3332 0331 3432 0331 3931.232.142.191 0050 : 0332 .2 Nov 25 18:38:28 ICMP_Dest_Unreachable[Port] 127.0.0.1 [localhost] 127.0.0.1 [localhost] sp=33285 dp=53 seq=0x0034380d sz=80(+20) There was no data in the last entry to the file. The data of the ping almost always seems to have an IP address in it. What can I do, or am I being paranoid? TIA, mike... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shadow password
I recently intsalled the shadow password packages to my system, everything seems to be going well accept for one minor hassle, my normal account cant become super-user. When i try i get the message that i do not have permission to do so. How do i get the permission? thanks:) Sahua, - mIcHaEl ///\ The Australian Internet Company c-00 ISP par Excellence \http://www.electric-rain.net/ (mine) |\_- http://www.aic.net.au/ (not mine) \ / . On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to wait and waiting died. -G.W Cecil/Adlai Stevenson. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icmpinfo
Hello, looks like you are sending UDP:53 (nameserver queries) to 127.0.0.1 and there is no process to answer those, therefore you get Port Unreachable errors. look in /etc/resolv.conf for an invalid 127.0.0.1, or start a nameserver. Greetings Bernd -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shadow password
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote: I recently intsalled the shadow password packages to my system, everything seems to be going well accept for one minor hassle, my normal account cant become super-user. When i try i get the message that i do not have permission to do so. How do i get the permission? you have to be in group root file group: root:x:0:root,your loginname ... ... ... thanks:) Sahua, - mIcHaEl ciao Helmuth (irc: Pvppet) __Blasch Helmuth,Graz University of Technology, Austria \/ Computing and Information Services Center L\in/uX Steyrergasse 30/Parterre (CE04), 8010 Graz, Austria \/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 43 316 873 6883 (FAX 7699) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User can't log into FTP.
One of my default system users (www-data to be exact) can't log in. My other users can. I'm using the wu-ftpd from rex. I don't see anywhere that this user is not allowed to log in to FTP. What must I do to allow that user to login via ftp? I want to be able to give someone access to the web server files, but thats all. What AM I missing? -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Virtual Hosting
Hey all. Im running Debian Linux 1.1 and apache 1.1.1. Ive added this to the bottom of my httpd.conf VirtualHost 203.17.176.245 ServerName www.b2.com.au ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot/web/docs/b2/ ErrorLoglogs/b2.com.au-error.log TransferLog logs/b2.com.au-access.log /VirtualHost Now, what else do i have to do to get this virtual host to work on my machine? IF anyone has some advice or can point me in the right direction for a HowTO, id much apprecaiate it:) Sahua, - mIcHaEl ///\ The Australian Internet Company c-00 ISP par Excellence \http://www.electric-rain.net/ (mine) |\_- http://www.aic.net.au/ (not mine) \ / . On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to wait and waiting died. -G.W Cecil/Adlai Stevenson. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More Gnus problems
Thanks to the people who sent me mail regarding Gnus... but I guess I'm such a dunce that it'll take more than that to get me reading my mail with Gnus... I read deeper into the info pages, followed the cookie cutter recipe, and still have no luck, so I made nnml the main select method... Here is my .gnus file: (BTW, should I put this stuff in .gnus, or .emacs, or does it matter?): (setq gnus-local-domain lightcom.net) (setq gnus-user-from-line Lars Louder [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (setq user-mail-address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (setq gnus-local-organization What? I'm not organized.) ;;(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods (setq gnus-select-method '(nnml lars_mail)) (setq nnmail-split-methods '((other ))) ;;that's been trimmed :D ;;(setq nnmail-spool-file po:lars) (setq nnml-spool-file /var/spool/mail/lars) ;; And here is the message I get: Cannot read active file from nnml server. Loading gnus-cache... Loading gnus-cache...done Looking for new newsgroups... Reading active file from lars_mail via nnml... Cannot read active file from nnml server. No new newsgroups. Checking new news... Checking new news...done No news is horrible news No more unread newsgroups I think this is a problem with movemail, as it is in /usr/local/bin or would it matter where it is? Thanks again -lars -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version 3.12 GUCSAT dpu s-:- a---? C+++ ULU P+? L+++ E+ W+ N++ o? K? w- O! M-- PS+ PE- Y+ PGP- t--- 5-- X-- R- tv--! b+/+ DI+ D+ G++ e- h! !r !z+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apparent floppy disk problem
Subject: Apparent floppy disk problem Hi The problem exhibits itself when I attempt to create a boot floppy while attempting to install Debian 1.1.8. The script attempts to format the floppy disk and fails on verify - with any disk floppy I use, and I have used about a dozen different disks, with essentially the same message: Formatting floppy verifying ... end_request I/O error dev 02:00 sector 15 end_request I/O error sector 16 end_request I/O error sector 30 end_request I/O error sector 32 read - unknown error I at first attributed this to a bad image from the CD, but I down loaded the install disk images from the ftp site. Using an older slackware installation, I used this to write the disks: dd if=image of=/dev/fd0 bs=18 Where image is successively the special boot 1 (for all adaptec scsi), root.bin base14-[123].bin. My machine is a 486 dx2 66, 256 K cache, 16 MB RAM a 1542A SCSI controller, and 4 scsi devices: /dev/sda: MICROPModel: 1674-07MB1036510 Rev: AS0A scsi id 0 /dev/sdb SEAGATE Model: ST3655N Rev: 0190 scsi id 2 /dev/sdc FUJITSU Model: M1606S-512Rev: 6234 scsi id 3 /dev/sdd SyQuest Model: EZ135SRev: 1_12 scsi id 4 /dev/scd0 TEXEL Model: CD-ROM DM-XX24 K Rev: 1.09 scsi id 6 scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom, 4 SCSI disks total. For what it is worth I want Debian on the 1.1 G disk, and to keep the 540 of LOSE 95, which I have to support for a small rehab outfit here in town. There is a single 1.44 MB floppy in /dev/fd0 that gives no problems with an older Slackware Linux, and works fine with Norton utilities on the floppies that I format using Norton's format program, or under Slackware Linux. I tried the fdformat from a shell spawned with a function key. It fails, with the same error messages. Help! -David SPAM FILTER: WONDERFUL! THANKS! DT - LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [345]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | User interface copyrights software patents make [EMAIL PROTECTED] | programing a dangerous business. Ask me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posting rejected - please read and agree to mailing list rules. (fwd)
On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Tom Julien wrote: IMHO, a license like Qt's is long overdue. It makes a fine commercial product available to both X11 and Win32, yet it provides a great mechanism to promote freeware/open standards like Unix/X11 *over* propriety ones. Troll's reasoning for not allowing modified versions may not include this rationale, but I am certainly tickled pink to see it for this very reason. Yes, make the commercials pay when it takes commercial development to create something. Seems fair to me. Please work with Troll on this -- you may find that there's no need to argue at all. Y'know, maybe it does not really matter all that much right now. Slackware and RedHat may be more than happy to include KDE and Qt bundled and ready to go. This is a substantial chunk of the market, and surely captures the market KDE is aimed for: newcomers. In time, the license may be changed to suit Debian, and so Debian can join in the fun. What I would like to know is the Debian mission statement, its meaning and purpose. Something is lurking in the depths of my memory, but it is not at all clear. Is there a Debian FAQ or other info available? I'll check if a web site is around, if I ever get around to it. :) -- William Burrow -- Fredericton Area Network, New Brunswick, Canada Copyright 1996 William Burrow This line left intentionally blank. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: User can't log into FTP.
One of my default system users (www-data to be exact) can't log in. My other users can. Make sure that the shell specified for that user in /etc/passwd is listed in the file /etc/shells. I don't see anywhere that this user is not allowed to log in to FTP. What must I do to allow that user to login via ftp? I want to be able to give someone access to the web server files, but thats all. What AM I missing? From man ftpd... Ftpd authenticates users according to three rules. 1. The user name must be in the password data base, /etc/passwd, and not have a null password. In this case a password must be provided by the client before any file operations may be per formed. 2. The user name must not appear in the file /etc/ftpusers (see ftpusers(5)). 3. The user must have a standard shell returned by getusershell(3). 4. If the user name is ``anonymous'' or ``ftp'', an anonymous ftp account must be present in the password file (user ``ftp''). In this case the user is allowed to log in by specifying any password (by convention this is given as the client host's name). Hmmm... That's four rules... Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPFWADM and telnet
At 00:41 22-11-96 -0500, Adam Heath wrote: |I current connect to the Internet with PPPD, and all works well. I have |compiled my kernel (2.0.24) with IP_MASQ enabled, and have verified that |this works. Here is my question. | |Can it be setup, so that when someone telnets into the Linux box, instead |of the request being handled there, it is masqueraded to one of the private |computers on the LAN? I have a DOS-based BBS that I can setup to accept |incoming telnet, but it won't work through DOSEMU. | It's possible. Have a look around for the 'redir' package, which will do it for you. Not what I want. I have looked at 'redir'. I would like it to be implemented more at the kernel level. Currently, I can run this command: ipfwadm -I -P tcp -a accept -S 0/0 -D 127.0.0.1/32 23 -r 1000 That will take packet coming from anywhere, headed toward the local telnet port, and redirect it toward the local 1000 port. Why can't I also put in a destination system address? I currently setup 'redir' to listen on port 1000, and redirect it across the LAN(actually, across a simulated SLIP link between linux and DOSEMU), but it seems I should be able to do something like it with the kernel. If I need to talk to the kernel guys, then if someone could direct me to the proper mailing list, I will post my question there. Txs. To those who are interested. I have finally got this to work. I hacked the 'redir' source to cycle back and forth between to ip addresses that are hard-coded into the source as each connection comes in. Then I setup a simulated SLIP connection bewteen linux and two dosemu sessions(read the Stacker mini howto). In each dos session, I used 'rlfossil' to translate between the fossil and telnet specs, and ran a dos-based bbs. I then telnetted to my system on port 1000(where 'redir' was set to listen). I got a connect on line 1 from the bbs. I aborted the connect. I then immediately telnetted again to port 1000. This time, it connected on line 2! I about sh*t myself when I saw it! Now I just need to get it to load automatically. I have a script created to run the programs on the linux side. I just need to make a script that can load the dos sessions automatically. If you think this is a lot to do on one machine, but the way I hacked the 'redir' program, it will work with many machines on a private lan. As each telnet connection comes in to the linux machine, it can be redirected to any number of IP address. If the kernel has a route to the address, then it will work. So I could have the 2 bbs channels residing on another computer on the private lan, 1 channel residing in DOSEMU on linux, and even another channel residing on a distant machine on the Internet! I am planning on making a HOWTO out of this, also, to make it easier for others to implement this. (I wonder if it would work with other protocols [FTP, HTTP, whatever]) Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Siliconvalley/Park/6562/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to hack, or not to hack ...
Recently one of our machines was hacked. Im not sure how many people know about this hack, but, any machine that does not have a shadow password facility and has a common CGI program called phf is susceptable to attack. You can use phf to more/grep the etc/passwd file. The way you can check if youve been hacked is to grep your logs file for phf. A failed attack will look like so; access_log:aksess-gw3-4.ppp.sn.no unknown - [18/Nov/1996:15:10:36 +1100] GET /cgi-bin/phf?Qname=%0Acat%20/etc/passwd HTTP/1.0 404 - access_log:aksess-gw3-4.ppp.sn.no unknown - [18/Nov/1996:15:16:04 +1100] GET /cgi-bin/phf?Qname=%0Acat%20/etc/passwd HTTP/1.0 404 - A successfull attack will look the same without the 404 - at the end of the entry. just thought you guys would be intrested. Sahua, - mIcHaEl ///\ The Australian Internet Company c-00 ISP par Excellence \http://www.electric-rain.net/ (mine) |\_- http://www.aic.net.au/ (not mine) \ / . On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to wait and waiting died. -G.W Cecil/Adlai Stevenson. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Posting rejected - please read and agree to mailing list rules. (fwd)
The Debian FAQ, answer to question 2.1: Debian GNU/Linux is the result of a volunteer effort to create a free, high-quality Unix-compatible operating system, complete with a suite of applications. The free here has to do with freedom, not price. While I know that, and you know that, it might need to be clarified in the FAQ. As it stands, that paragraph has no indication that a) Debian GNU/Linux might cost money (and thus not be free by monetary standards), but b) can be modified and redistributed at will (and thus free by -part- of the LPF/FSF standards). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xdm -- Second X Session
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far, I've only been able to manually get a second X session going for root (doesn't seem to work for a normal user :( ) by using the following command line: startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_Mach64 :1 How about something like 'X :1 -query machinename' where machinename is the name of your machine. Incidentally, you can control who is allowed to start the X server by editing the first line of the /etc/X11/Xserver file. The '-query' option tells the server to send an XDMCP 'query' message to the xdm on the specified machine, asking that xdm to manage the display. If you want to start an X session on another machine you can use the same command. Alternatively you can get xdm to start two servers by adding another line to /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. You will need to specify that the second server is display :1, and you will probably also need to tell the servers explicitly which VT to start on; there is a known race condition when two servers start simultaneously. Steve Early -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnus isn't the culprit (too bad I don't know what is:(
Well, even though you're all stumped as to why that .gnus file doesn't work, I think i've tracked the problem down to something other than Gnus. When I inc my mail for mh, i get this message: inc: unable to lock and fopen /var/spool/mail/lars And when Gnus calls movemail to get my mail from the spool file, I get this error message: nnml: Reading incoming mail... Getting mail from /var/spool/mail/lars... movemail: Permission denied for /var/spool/mail/Ea10189--see source file lib-src/movemail.c Cannot read active file from nnml server. This isn't the only problem with my mail setup. When I send messages with something like echo test | mail lars i get this message after waiting a few minutes: cannot chdir(/var/spool/mqueue): Permission denied The perms on /var/spool/mqueue are drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 1024 Nov 25 17:16 mqueue/ which can't be right. I'm starting to think there are serious problems with my mail setup, and I have no clue as to whether they are related or not :( Thanks again -lars -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version 3.12 GUCSAT dpu s-:- a---? C+++ ULU P+? L+++ E+ W+ N++ o? K? w- O! M-- PS+ PE- Y+ PGP- t--- 5-- X-- R- tv--! b+/+ DI+ D+ G++ e- h! !r !z+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apache log oddity
Im runing apache 1.1.1 and it always generates two identical access logs one is access.log the other is access_log ? anyone else had this problem? :) Sahua, - mIcHaEl ///\ The Australian Internet Company c-00 ISP par Excellence \http://www.electric-rain.net/ (mine) |\_- http://www.aic.net.au/ (not mine) \ / . On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to wait and waiting died. -G.W Cecil/Adlai Stevenson. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't get xdm to work.
Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : I can't seem to get xdm to work on my debian box. X starts and runs : fine if invoked with startx. The only strabge thing that I havefound is : that I had to habd configure the /etc/11/xdm/Xservers file. I'm pretty sure : that I got that right. (snip) : When i run xdm there is a breif disk acces, and then nothing happens. : There are no messages in /var/log/xdm-errors. Check that xdm is enabled in /etc/X11/config. You should not have the lines: no-start-xdm no-xdm-start-server I don't know exactly what each line does, but if you put the lines start-xdm xdm-start-server in /etc/X11/config, xdm will start at boot time (you can switch to a VT and end it with /etc/init.d/xdm stop at any time). I didn't have to modify the Xservers file. You may want to add xbanner in your /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 file, to get a pretty background, but more important, xscreensaver. Mat -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Caldera's WABI run on a Debian system?
[At the risk of being flamed for having a non-Debian discussion here...] Shaya Potter writes: What I remember reading was that WABI actually was able to run more windows apps if you installed windows and ran the apps through it, then if you would run the apps directly from WABI. No, that's not true. However, what doesn't make sense to me about this approach is how can it run windows. Windows, from my understanding, interacts on a very low level with dos, and WABI isn't a pc emulator, it justs emulates window system calls. Wabi doesn't run the KERNEL, GDI and USER DLLs. You are correct, these work at a very low level. Wabi provides emulation for these APIs. It still requires MS Windows install disks unconditionally at install time. Wabi uses various other components from MS Windows such as the OLE DLLs, applets, fonts, help files and various utilities such as the program manager and file manager. Of course the most important thing it requires is Solitaire. If you would like to discuss this furthur, please join us on the Caldera Wabi email list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Ron -- Ron Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera, Inc. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pgp
I have a version of pgp... I've been trying to get working... it was originaly a .tar.gz and I figured I'd try to get a .deb version... to see if I have any more luck... (if it makes a difference) BUT I can't find the .deb version anywhere... not even at tsx-11... there is a pgp-us.deb but this is what it has when I do an ls -la on it... distributions/debian/non-free/ms-dos/pgp-us.deb-../binary/pgp-us-2.6.2i-5.deb And there is NO distributions/debian/non-free/binary/pgp-us-2.6.2i-5.deb file... any Idea where I can get a copy? Fizz -- ) ( Que Sera, /|\ /|\ Beyond imagination Sera/ | \ \_|_/ / | \ Lies the truth! * / | \ (/\|/\) / | \ * |`.__o___\`|'/___o__.'| | '^` \|/ '^` | | Out of order there is Chaos,V See with your heart not with | | and out of chaos there is orderyour eyes for beauty| | lies everywhere | | [EMAIL PROTECTED],_. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]/,-.\ http://www.netrax.net/~fizz | | .//___\\__. | |'(( \\_// `| * \\ `-' * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please use V
'Tom Julien wrote:' IMHO, a license like Qt's is long overdue. It makes a fine commercial product available to both X11 and Win32, yet it provides a great mechanism to promote freeware/open standards like Unix/X11 *over* propriety ones. Troll's reasoning for not allowing modified versions may not include this rationale, but I am certainly tickled pink to see it for this very reason. Have you looked at the Aladdin Ghostscript Free Public License? Peter Deutsch has thought a lot about these issues. Why did the Qt people not use his approach? [Removed debian-devel from the Cc: list as this is beyond Debian policy.] -- Christopher J. Fearnley|Linux/Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |UNIX SIG Leader at PACS http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf |(Philadelphia Area Computer Society) ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf|Design Science Revolutionary Dare to be Naive -- Bucky Fuller |Explorer in Universe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading base-passwd
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 23:55:00 PST Bruce Perens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Base-passwd could indeed be improved to merge entries in to an existing password file. I think the maintainer (Philippe Troin) could use some script help on this - he has his hands full just allocating UIDs and GIDs. Guy Maor said he might be able to help with the script, but as Debian FTP archive manager he's a busy Guy :-) . Anyone else want to give it a try? It's something you need to be _very_ careful with. Clobbering some poor user's passwd file would not be appreciated. I'm working on a prototype for this. More to come with bo ! Thanks for offering help anyways ! Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ulimit problem
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:36:14 +0800 Tan Wee Yeh ([EMAIL PROTECTED] g) wrote: At least I understand how the prior case has only local effect and that the user is limited by the hard limts. Now... is there anyway to raise the hard limit globally. Normally, limits are not set (ie they're set as the maximum available). If the limits are lower than normal: 1) either you have lshell installed, and there's a configuration file in etc which tells you which are the limits, 2) or one of the profile scripts (/etc/profile ~/.profile or /etc/csh.*) lowers the limit before the shell actually starts. Check these. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ulimit problem
Normally, limits are not set (ie they're set as the maximum available). If the limits are lower than normal: 1) either you have lshell installed, and there's a configuration file in etc which tells you which are the limits, yep.. got it.. Thanks a lot. That's my first encounter with lshell :) Thanks again... Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shadow
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote: I recently intsalled the shadow password packages to my system, everything seems to be going well accept for one minor hassle, my normal account cant become super-user. When i try i get the message that i do not have permission to do so. How do i get the permission? you have to be in group root file group: root:x:0:root,your loginname ... I don't like that. It seems unsafe to me. There's gotta be a better solution Currently, I am putting in special users in /etc/suauth but I only know the syntax for making su ask for the current users passwd, and not root's. Would like to prompt it to ask for root's password. Workaround anyone? -- ~~ Roger Endo President, Warp 9 Technologies LLC SBnet, Internet for Santa Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805-961-0150 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd X message
Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Add this to your XF86Config file: Section Modules Load pex5.so Load xie.so EndSection Sorry, that first line should Section Module Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please use V
It's difficult enough to promote freeware in industry with the common lack of support misperception. Combine this I'd suggest that rather than fixing that with wierd licenses, you just do better marketing. Works for us :-) _Mark_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cygnus Solutions, Eastern USA (http://www.cygnus.com/, Making Free Software Affordable, Professional Support for Cygnus SDK, Cygnus Network Security, etc etc etc :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Hosting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote: Now, what else do i have to do to get this virtual host to work on my machine? IF anyone has some advice or can point me in the right direction for a HowTO, id much apprecaiate it:) hmm... u have a lot of questions do u :) well, u have to get a your DNS to recognize your new hostname; u probably don't have your own DNS, but if u do, just edit the .db or localhost.rev and add a CNAME of that host to an existing host. u cannot just make a hostname... contact the ppl who runs the nameserver of ur domain to get the virtual host recognized. I am running NetBSD and Apache, and I have a couple virtual hosts under Ngbert.org. don't know if this helps or not, coz it seemed like u dunno what u'r doing. :) /ayn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMppy5p6qvWJYgw1hAQFkewQAsjZOySymAK6DquyaECDiG4MYeHFPIUPZ N8lR3/VhM8pbrz1jaaH+OqXBVc7ZxXm2qZL4QGUZErDxQyqbk34wsJ2Hcd60ETKT yCbGWleovmV3bQfeFNPINuWKxqqrxCHdq9uB+EW/asdbwrlhZeAkEiuEWzhE+71J JfwPldSBJmg= =1RI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://andrew.Ngbert.org Carnegie Mellon University; ECE major, Music minor campus ph: 412/862-2836; voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 talk: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for online status. finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info, such as my public key, geekcode, snail address, etc. NGBERT! http://www.Ngbert.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shadow password
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- r u in the wheel group? /ayn On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote: I recently intsalled the shadow password packages to my system, everything seems to be going well accept for one minor hassle, my normal account cant become super-user. When i try i get the message that i do not have permission to do so. How do i get the permission? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMppbjZ6qvWJYgw1hAQEkIwQAhmKcdjSjAlzQf6U1MpH7XrmHYjNmrkYc 5FYyE0oN6w5gLG1519sDU94LW5NLeg/7M5k6UgWwLb8VyLZtu9KHeblIGaY36FJ2 5wZsL6TaXQEr9debDLtOydW5sbesUv54p0BsMiiV8ZHSZLYLbVS6toi5MDkyFocK 0pAa529J0xM= =x20F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://andrew.Ngbert.org Carnegie Mellon University; ECE major, Music minor campus ph: 412/862-2836; voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 talk: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for online status. finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info, such as my public key, geekcode, snail address, etc. NGBERT! http://www.Ngbert.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shadow password
On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Roger Endo wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote: I recently intsalled the shadow password packages to my system, everything seems to be going well accept for one minor hassle, my normal account cant become super-user. When i try i get the message that i do not have permission to do so. How do i get the permission? you have to be in group root file group: root:x:0:root,your loginname ... I don't like that. It seems unsafe to me. There's gotta be a better solution Currently, I am putting in special users in /etc/suauth but I only know the syntax for making su ask for the current users passwd, and not root's. Would like to prompt it to ask for root's password. Workaround anyone? Roger Endo yep, its safer to but the usernames in suauth looks like (file /etc/suauth): root:ALL EXCEPT login1,login2:DENY or root:ALL EXCEPT login1,login2,GROUP root:DENY watch out! keyword GROUP let the parser know that all words behind GROUP are group names - only the : escapes. the examples let the users login1 and login2 and all users in group root (2nd examp.) to get root access by enter the roots password, all others will receive the message access denied. root:login1:NOPASS root:login2:OWNPASS root:ALL EXCEPT login3:DENY let the user login1 get root access without passwd the user login2 have to put in his own passwd and the user login3 have to use the root passwd all other user cant get in so if you want the users login1 login2 and login3 to be promted for the root password you use: root:ALL EXCEPT login1,login2,login3:DENY hope that helps ciao Helmuth (irc: Pvppet) __Blasch Helmuth,Graz University of Technology, Austria \/ Computing and Information Services Center L\in/uX Steyrergasse 30/Parterre (CE04), 8010 Graz, Austria \/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 43 316 873 6883 (FAX 7699) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUMMARY: Need a special boot disk?
Hi all, I'd like to summarize my experience for future newbies like me. On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Daniel Stringfield wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Alberto Brizio wrote: Hi all, I have an old 386DX40 with 8MB and a CyCDROM 520ie. I've looked at the CDROM-Howto and it appears that I've to use the aztcd driver to make the CD work. So, when installing Debian 1.1, I need a special kernel onto the boot disk or it's enough to reply at boot linux aztcd=0x170? Nope, all you need to do is during the installation process, it will prompt you for what modules to load, just go select the aztcd module, and off you go. Sorry but this doesn't work, see below If yes, which one? I need to pass also infos about my sound card (an OPTi 82C929 based one, known as MAD16-SoundStorm) to make the CD driver work properly (it's hooked to the SoundCard IDE port)? You do not need to have the sound card drivers loaded. The IDE port will function with out it. I do not know of a boot time loadable module is available for the MAD16 or not, because of problems with sound drivers as modules. You'll have to compile your own kernel for that. Here is the problem, the Sound Card. For the aztcd driver to work, it needs that the IDE port of the Sound Card be initialized, so the best way I've found (many thanks to Prof. Zimmermann) is to use loadlin after booting DOS setting up the Sound Card IDE controller this way. This could be a topic of the particular kind of CD-SC setting, so it may not work if in other situations, but I think it is worth to know about it. Thanks in advance. Your welcome. Good luck with endeavor. -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! If somebody wants more details, please contact me. Alberto Brizio CSTV - CNR Str. delle Cacce, 91 - Torino Tel.: +39 11 3919 242 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printing on different paper trays with Linux?
Hi, If I have a printer with 2 paper trays, say one containing envelopes, and the other containing paper, how can I send a print job to one or the other? I suppose I would have to set up 2 different print queues. But is there support for such hardware in Linux? At which level? Is it just a matter of writing a perl script sending the proper escape sequence (as specified in the doc) before whatever comes out of ghostscript? Has anyone done this? On which printer? The only experience I have with such matters is puzzled comments from people trying to print from Windog on a network HP printer. As the Windox drivers have a paper-tray selection button, they have a way of conveying the info, but it ends up with erratic error messages like No paper in tray 4. Since there is no such tray, it would all be normal, except that the user selected tray 1... Amities, Jean Orloff + + + + + + + + ++ +Tel:(33)50.09.16.75 Fax:(33)50.09.94.95 http://lapphp0.in2p3.fr/~orloff/ + + + + + + + + + ++ The tides are a fight between the Earth and moon. All water tends towards the moon, because there is no water on the moon and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight. From science exams at high-school. + + + + + + + + ++ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icmpinfo
tcpdump always dump this message to screen. It seems that it is a kind of error messages. the ppp channel seems *hang* for a while because of this error. Anyone know how to fix it? 10:59:08.535381 x.xx..xxx.xx yy.yy..yyy.yy: icmp: x.xx..xxx.xx udp port route unreachable (frag 22923:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0xc0] lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache log oddity
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote: Im runing apache 1.1.1 and it always generates two identical access logs one is access.log the other is access_log ? anyone else had this problem? You probably have two modules loaded for logging, something like this: LoadModule common_log_module /usr/lib/apache/modules/mod_log_common.so LoadModule config_log_module /usr/lib/apache/modules/mod_log_config.so The first one cannot be configured, the second is configurable where to log. Comment one of them out. Greg -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdm -- Second X Session
On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Joey Hess wrote: Edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. Here's mine: :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt8 -bpp 16 :1.0 :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 This starts up 2 xdms, one at 16bpp and the other at 256 colors. The vt7 and vt8 are important -- without them, the 2 xdm's fight with each other when they are starting up and do weird things to my video card. Thanks a million! Worked like a charm. Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Turning RPMs into DEBs?
Hi there! I've heard of a magic package makedeb which can turn e.g. rpm packages into deb packages. Does such thing exist? If so, where can I find it? Please reply to me directly, I am not subscribed to the list! Thanks a lot! Martynas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
package sizes
I notice that in the contrib/Packages file there is information on the installed-size of the packages. Is there a way of finding out that piece of information about the mainstream packages before downloading/installing them? Tony Ware. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing on different paper trays with Linux?
Jean Orloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I have a printer with 2 paper trays [...] You've already figured out how to do it - multiple queues. Each uses some small program to send the proper escape codes. It's straight- forward to set up. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apparent floppy disk problem (fwd)
Hi I have appended the original message. Apparently I was not subscribed when I sent this the first time, so did not see any responses. Please mail me directly if you have a fix, there no need to post a second time. I really am in a quandrary - that floppy drive looks ok, but fdformat doesn't format a floppy so I cannot create a boot disk with the install scripts. dselect, when asked to update packages returns an error as well, which I did not note in the original message. HELP, Please! David -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:49:06 -0500 (EST) From: David B. Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apparent floppy disk problem Cc: TEAGUE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi The problem exhibits itself when I attempt to create a boot floppy while attempting to install Debian 1.1.8. The script attempts to format the floppy disk and fails on verify - with any disk floppy I use, and I have used about a dozen different disks, with essentially the same message: Formatting floppy verifying ... end_request I/O error dev 02:00 sector 15 end_request I/O error sector 16 end_request I/O error sector 30 end_request I/O error sector 32 read - unknown error I at first attributed this to a bad image from the CD, but I down loaded the install disk images from the ftp site. Using an older slackware installation, I used this to write the disks: dd if=image of=/dev/fd0 bs=18 Where image is successively the special boot 1 (for all adaptec scsi), root.bin base14-[123].bin. My machine is a 486 dx2 66, 256 K cache, 16 MB RAM a 1542A SCSI controller, and 4 scsi devices: /dev/sda: MICROPModel: 1674-07MB1036510 Rev: AS0A scsi id 0 /dev/sdb SEAGATE Model: ST3655N Rev: 0190 scsi id 2 /dev/sdc FUJITSU Model: M1606S-512Rev: 6234 scsi id 3 /dev/sdd SyQuest Model: EZ135SRev: 1_12 scsi id 4 /dev/scd0 TEXEL Model: CD-ROM DM-XX24 K Rev: 1.09 scsi id 6 scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom, 4 SCSI disks total. And a single 1.44 MB floppy in /dev/fd0 that gives no problems with an older Slackware Linux, and works fine with Norton utilities on the floppies that I format using Norton's format program, or under Slackware Linux. I tried the fdformat from a shell spawned with a function key. It fails. Help! -David - LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [345]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | User interface copyrights software patents make [EMAIL PROTECTED] | programing a dangerous business. Ask me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pine and fvwm2
Hello, I used to run pine under an xterm or rxvt while using fvwm and I had full cut/paste support (I mean, I could copy from the pine screen and paste into any other X-application and viceversa). Now that I am using fvwm2 the pine screen ignores the cut/paste events even though they work fine on the xterm and rxvt screens (other than pine). Can somebody give an idea on how to fix this? In a separate issue, I liked the little virtual (sticky) desktop that used to show up in my screen allowing me to navigate from one virtual desktop to another by just clicking the appropriate rectangle. How do I enable this in fvwm2? Thank you for your info, Pedro Ivan -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help in configuring network card
Hi all, When I initially installed the Debian Linux system, I did not have a network card installed. I now have a 3COM network card installed and connected to our Novell network. Is there any utility which will automatically do this (i.e. prompt for the IP address, Hostname, DNS server, etc.? Also, what packages do I need (if any)? TIA, Wayne Richardson Advanced Software Engineer 3M Health Information Systems -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package sizes
If you use dselect with the ftp option, then you get the installed size of packages during the install phase. You also have an option to turn down a download on any particular file. Do you also want that informtion in the select phase of dselect? Antony F Ware [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I notice that in the contrib/Packages file there is information on the installed-size of the packages. Is there a way of finding out that piece of information about the mainstream packages before downloading/installing them? -- kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pine and fvwm2
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: Hello, I used to run pine under an xterm or rxvt while using fvwm and I had full cut/paste support (I mean, I could copy from the pine screen and paste into any other X-application and viceversa). Now that I am using fvwm2 the pine screen ignores the cut/paste events even though they work fine on the xterm and rxvt screens (other than pine). Can somebody give an idea on how to fix this? If you have the enable-mouse-in-xterm box checked cut paste no longer works. I don't know if that is what you have done, but that tripped me up for a while. In a separate issue, I liked the little virtual (sticky) desktop that used to show up in my screen allowing me to navigate from one virtual desktop to another by just clicking the appropriate rectangle. How do I enable this in fvwm2? Module FvwmPager. Read the FvwmPager man page for details Thank you for your info, Pedro Ivan -- +--+ | Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz | | Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ | | Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ | +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
displaying pgp public key and xface in finger info???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- What file do I put my PGP public key in to have it displayed in my finger info in Debian Linux? And XFace? BTW, I do not mean the .plan file, I think there is actually files that the fingerd would look into for the info... because I got this when I finger myself at my Debian linux box: //Note the PGP Public Key: and XFace: fields at the bottom andrew:~f [EMAIL PROTECTED] [godel.Ngbert.org] Debian Linux 1.1 Copyright (C) 1993-1996 Debian Association, Inc. and others - - Username: ayn In real life: Andrew Y Ng Plan: my email addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ng (ayn) is alive on godel right now; I logged in at Tue Nov 26 00:29:26 CST 1996. * Note: Idle times are meaningful! :) Need more personal info about Ng? finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]! or check out http://andrew.Ngbert.org Try talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] to talk to me. Project: compiling more software on Ngbert PGP Public Key: This user has no PGP public key. XFace: This user has no xface file. - - Debian Linux 1.1 Copyright (C) 1993-1996 Debian Association, Inc. and others thx for u help in advance. :) /ayn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMps1i56qvWJYgw1hAQG6UQQAwU1MKsfKBlEIR2Sd5TMekq28Rr1pDQIE gW2MRW/ijhvO3tkKxVzp4zVuZlgVSi+wJm3mycE8I08G+jIa3LfRW5NGpAlUBTQ7 BfR1ydF751uA9V6pK3hV78BmT0LZxstGVyoK34n+fGTxYFmpMLKHN7l43tjt1wRR 2I6PVJhcWXE= =tKl0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://andrew.Ngbert.org Carnegie Mellon University; ECE major, Music minor campus ph: 412/862-2836; voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 talk: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for online status. finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info, such as my public key, geekcode, snail address, etc. NGBERT! http://www.Ngbert.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sound module
I have sound (3.5.5-beta1) compiled as a module, this works and is auto-loaded when required to play midi files with midi player progs (or insmod sound) but gives an error - Sequencer Error: Unable to open Midi #0 write /dev/sequencer: Device or resource busy when trying to play another file without either waiting for auto-clean or manually doing a `rmmod sound', then the device may be used again. This seems to only apply to the midi driver, mod files can be played OK. I have have checked dma.c and the numbers are as the Sound-HOWTO for using drq 0. fuser -v /dev/sequencer gives no output fuser -v /dev/midi0 gives no output top shows nothing running that needs the sequencer. Compiling sound in the kernel gives same results. Is this normal behaviour ? or am I doing something stupid agin :-) Using Debian 1.1 with 2.0.6 Kernel. Is this the type of question that may be asked here ? if not I apologize, Thanks Neil, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: displaying pgp public key and xface in finger info???
Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What file do I put my PGP public key in to have it displayed in my finger info in Debian Linux? .pgpkey This is in cfingerd(8), which you've obviously installed. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pine and fvwm2
Thank you, Cut and paste functions work well with the shift key. Pedro Ivan -- On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: I used to run pine under an xterm or rxvt while using fvwm and I had full cut/paste support (I mean, I could copy from the pine screen and paste into any other X-application and viceversa). Now that I am using fvwm2 the pine screen ignores the cut/paste events even though they work fine on the xterm and rxvt screens (other than pine). Can somebody give an idea on how to fix this? In pine, go into Setup/Config and look at the feature enable-mouse-in-xterm. If you have this turned on, apparently you need to hold the shift key when cutting/pasting. Here is the help info: FEATURE: enable-mouse-in-xterm This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text or commands. Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. End of help on this topic -- ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VFAT32 support?
Is linux kernel vfat support compatible with the vfat32 from the microsoft recent OEM WIN95 release? lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icmpinfo
Hi, 10:59:08.535381 x.xx..xxx.xx yy.yy..yyy.yy: icmp: x.xx..xxx.xx udp port route unreachable (frag 22923:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0xc0] same problem, you are using an non-functionalnameserver. Greetings Bernd -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pine and fvwm2
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: Hello, ... In a separate issue, I liked the little virtual (sticky) desktop that used to show up in my screen allowing me to navigate from one virtual desktop to another by just clicking the appropriate rectangle. How do I enable this in fvwm2? Easy way out is to edit your ~/.fvwm2rc and add to AddToFunction InitFunction whatever's in there + I Module FvwmPager 0 0 ^^^ (see man on FvwmPager and fvwm2). Also add this line to RestartFunction, so the pager is activated when you restart fvwm2, too. I have a file called ~/.fvwm2/post.hook which has the following on it: # # START-UP Functions # AddToFunc InitFunction I Module FvwmButtons + I Module FvwmPager 0 0 + I Module FvwmAudio + I Next [!iconic CurrentScreen xterm] Focus + I CursorMove 30 40 AddToFunc RestartFunction I Module FvwmButtons + I Module FvwmPager 0 0 + I Module FvwmAudio + I Next [!iconic CurrentScreen xterm] Focus + I CursorMove 30 40 # Uncomment this to make windows auto-raise after [x] milliseconds # AddToFunc InitFunction I Module FvwmAuto 0 Shouldn't this make the trick? When I change some other stuff in this file I can see the changes right as soon as I reliad fvwm2. But I don't have any pager at all. Pedro Ivan -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: displaying pgp public key and xface in finger info???
Andrew == Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- What file do I put my Andrew PGP public key in to have it displayed in my finger info Andrew in Debian Linux? Any plain text file in .pgpkey should be displayed be cfingerd when a remote finger is done. You should extract your public pgp key with ASCII armour and put it in that file: pgp -kxa [your_name] temp This creates two files `temp', with the binary key, `temp.asc' with the ASCII key. Move `temp.asc' to `.pgpkey'. IMPORTANT: pgp generates files unreadable by the world (mode 600), make sure `.pgpkey' has mode 644 so that it can be accessed by the daemon. Otherwise finger says you have no pgp key! (Tripped me up for a while.) Cheers, Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Please support free GNU: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu/ | | software.Debian/GNU Linux: http://www.debian.org/ | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NCR53c7,8xxx SCSI controller?
The Debian boot disk (from 7/14/96) does not recognize my NCR53c7,8xxx SCSI controller. It seems to think it's a 53c406a with no ports available. I don't think it's a hardware problem because the RedHat 3.0.3 boot disks seem to work fine. But I don't really want to use RedHat ;-) Are alternate boot disks available anywhere? (I seem to recall a selection of them back in the Debian 0.9x days.) --norm -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icmpinfo
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: Hi, 10:59:08.535381 x.xx..xxx.xx yy.yy..yyy.yy: icmp: x.xx..xxx.xx udp port route unreachable (frag 22923:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0xc0] same problem, you are using an non-functionalnameserver. Greetings Bernd How to fix it? I checked the resolv.conf and there is already a line nameserver 127.0.0.1 lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icmpinfo
Hello, How to fix it? I checked the resolv.conf and there is already a line nameserver 127.0.0.1 for every nameserver line in resolv.conf you have to check if there is a nameserver running on that host (dig soa . @127.0.0.1). Remove all lines which don't have an nameserver running. Hmm.. if dst and source port are exchanged the problem can be created by other hosts querying your name server. You nameserver is too slow to anser, and the other host stoped alread waiting for your answer, then it will send a similiar icmp error. Greetings Bernd -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NCR53c7,8xxx SCSI controller?
On 26 Nov 1996, Norman Walsh wrote: Are alternate boot disks available anywhere? (I seem to recall a selection of them back in the Debian 0.9x days.) Bruce will make some for the upcoming new public Debian[TM] Release. YOu can easily make your own boot disks if you have a running linux system available. If you do not need ATAPI the I do have a custom ncr810 boot disk on my ftp site. Have a look at ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/Goodies/ncr* Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VFAT32 support?
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Lawrence Chim wrote: Is linux kernel vfat support compatible with the vfat32 from the microsoft recent OEM WIN95 release? lawrence, I would strongly doubt it. vfat used to be just a superset of the fat filesystem so it was too difficult to add support. vfat32, on the otherhand, is a big jump considering the fact that most dos utilities won't work with it either. Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icmpinfo
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: Hello, How to fix it? I checked the resolv.conf and there is already a line nameserver 127.0.0.1 for every nameserver line in resolv.conf you have to check if there is a nameserver running on that host (dig soa . @127.0.0.1). Remove all lines which don't have an nameserver running. Hmm.. if dst and source port are exchanged the problem can be created by other hosts querying your name server. You nameserver is too slow to anser, and the other host stoped alread waiting for your answer, then it will send a similiar icmp error. Do you know where to get more info. about these kind of message, like faq? lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VFAT32 support?
Is linux kernel vfat support compatible with the vfat32 from the microsoft recent OEM WIN95 release? I would strongly doubt it. vfat used to be just a superset of the fat filesystem so it was too difficult to add support. vfat32, on the otherhand, is a big jump considering the fact that most dos utilities won't work with it either. So, is there any plan to support it. I heard that vfat32 is part of Win95. lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VFAT32 support?
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Shaya Potter wrote: On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Lawrence Chim wrote: Is linux kernel vfat support compatible with the vfat32 from the microsoft recent OEM WIN95 release? I would strongly doubt it. vfat used to be just a superset of the fat filesystem so it was too difficult to add support. vfat32, on the otherhand, is a big jump considering the fact that most dos utilities won't work with it either. No, vfat does not give FAT32 capability. It is a superset of the FAT filesystem (having nothing to do with the FAT itself really: it fiddles the directory entries). FAT32 is being worked on, I did see a message to this effect in c.o.l.dev. -- William Burrow -- Fredericton Area Network, New Brunswick, Canada Copyright 1996 William Burrow This line left intentionally blank. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Replacing CPP with GCC
I had installed the cpp package in lieu of installing gcc. I find myself getting more into programming and will require gcc. I have tried to avoid using deseled, opting to choose dpkg -i instead. How can I remove cpp without breaking any dependencies and replace it with gcc, since the two cannot coexist. Any help is greatly appreciated, Eddie Urenda -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnus isn't the culprit (too bad I don't know what is:(
Rob Browning wrote: Just for comparison (user names changed to protect the innocent :) 501$ ls -al /var/spool/mail total 59 drwxrwsr-t 2 mail mail 1024 Nov 26 06:50 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 1024 Nov 20 02:34 .. -rw--- 1 user1mail0 Nov 28 1995 user1 -rw--- 1 user2mail0 Nov 21 01:43 user2 -rw--- 1 root mail56691 Nov 26 06:50 root # ls -al /var/spool/mqueue total 2 drwx-- 2 root root 1024 Nov 26 15:58 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 1024 Nov 20 02:34 .. # I set the permissions to those you have, but I get this message approxamately 5 min after doing echo test | mail lars at any given terminal: bash$ cannot chdir(/var/spool/mqueue): Permission denied I guess the program send-mail is trying to do this. Also, I ran gnus as root, and got this message after trying to get my mail: Reading active file from lars_mail via nnml... nnml: Reading incoming mail... Getting mail from /root/.gnus-crash-box... Error, unknown mail format! (Possibly corrupted.) Should I just give up and reinstall, or is this fixable? (I'd rather fix it, but I'm afraid I have no hope) Thanks again -lars -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version 3.12 GUCSAT dpu s-:- a---? C+++ ULU P+? L+++ E+ W+ N++ o? K? w- O! M-- PS+ PE- Y+ PGP- t--- 5-- X-- R- tv--! b+/+ DI+ D+ G++ e- h! !r !z+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VFAT32 support?
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Lawrence Chim wrote: Is linux kernel vfat support compatible with the vfat32 from the microsoft recent OEM WIN95 release? I would strongly doubt it. vfat used to be just a superset of the fat filesystem so it was too difficult to add support. vfat32, on the otherhand, is a big jump considering the fact that most dos utilities won't work with it either. So, is there any plan to support it. I heard that vfat32 is part of Win95. It's not really part of win95, it is only part of the oem release. There is no way present win 95 users will be able to get until the nex major release of windows. By the way, from what I have heard there is really no reason to use it unless you want a huge gigabyte sized partition, which I personally don't like. There is no speed improvement in vfat32 Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
