apt-get reports no new packages
I'm following Etch and apt is reporting no new packages for a touch over a week. From past experience I know that this is highly unlikely. Also, a friend runs nearly the same setup as I have and he is still getting daily updates. Any ideas what I could check/do? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[edi@gmx.de: Re: home and end keys not working in xterm]
snip I helped me with forcing xterm to send other keycodes, but the problem is here. Feel free to report this as a bug. As far as I know all X-Terminal programs are in sync with current termcap database, all but xterm, which send broken key sequences to programs inside the terminal. snip I'm using eterm and the same problem appears here. I'm on testing. Should a bug report be generated for this also? Wm
Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute
I've setup a fairly restrictive set of rules for iptables and have been, up to this point, extremely satisfied with its performance. However, I've recently started having some signifiant issues with my cable modem provider and they routinely want to ping and traceroute to my machine. This requires me to take down my firewall and wait for them to finish, then put it back up. I'd like to make, as part of my rule set, ping and traceroute able to get through. So far I've done this for my input chain for ping -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT For traceroute I've done this: -A INPUT -p ip -j ACCEPT These appear to work, however, am I overlooking something from a security point of view by allowing any icmp and ip's through? Is there a better way? Thanks, Wm
Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute
snip What do you think is dangeous about allowing ping/traceroute? Neither are be used to establish a service which could be exploited, so why so you care about denying ping / traceroute? snip Exactly, I'm going about the firewall as deny everything, then just let through what I know I want to come through. However, in this process it blocks ping by default. I'm trying to figure out what is needed to specifically turn these back on. Sebastiaan's ideas worked fine for ping, but traceroute still doesn't work. Regards, Wm
Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute
snip Depending on who you talk to there and how reasonable they are, tell them you use a firewall and don't want to leave your machine vulnerable like this. It's possible that they will use the same machine or machines when they want to ping or traceroute to you. If so, you can allow just those machines. By the way, why do they need to traceroute to you ?? *They* set up the routing and should know how and where packets are going. If they're interested in hops between you and them, they can ping them directly. Regards Hall snip Hall, I'm experiencing 20 to 54% packet loss coming into my pc and going out. Charter cable company has been resolving this for almost 8 months now. I've even showed them the exact ip to their local router that's causing the problems, yet the continue to want to ping my machine and run traceroutes to it. Regards, Wm
apt-get failures?
I want to try upgrading to testing (woody). First I went to the debian site and plucked the following sources directly from them: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main non-free Then I did the following: apt-get update apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade 176 packages upgraded, 41 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 92.3MB of archives. After unpacking 65.3MB will be used. I'm good with that so I say yes... I am seeing the following problems: Err http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libc6 2.2.2-4 400 Bad Request Err http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libncurses5 5.2.20010318-1 Bad header line Err http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libldap2 2.0.7-5 404 Not Found Err http://http.us.debian.org testing/main lilo 1:21.7-3 404 Not Found Err http://http.us.debian.org testing/main binutils 2.11.90.0.5-1 404 Not Found Thing about this one is a friend of mine did the exact same upgrade not 10 minutes before me and it worked flawlessly. Ideas? How much risk is there to go ahead and update with that many files not found? Then at the end of the download it spits out a ton of this: Fetched 85.8MB in 33m22s (42.9kB/s) Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.2.2-4_i386.deb 400 Bad Request Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ncurses/libncurses5_5.2.20010318-1_i386.deb Bad header line Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bash/bash_2.05-3_i386.deb Size mismatch Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/util-linux/bsdutils_2.11b-4_i386.deb Size mismatch See those Size mismatch? What the heck is going on? Is this one of those, it's too early to expect a successful dist-upgrade? Or could there be something else going on that I don't know about that I'm doing wrong? Bill
How do you broadcast a message?
Greetings, When you issue the reboot command the system does a system wide message saying the machine is rebooting NOW. How would I send a message to all the people that are on the system? I assume this would need to be done as root? Thanks, Bill
Re: size of a directory
I assume you mean you want to know how large the directory and everything in it is? If so du -hs /usr will show you what your looking for. Bill On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:40:22PM +0100, Gregor Kaleta wrote: How can I view the size of a spezial directory e.g. /usr?
Off Topic - NN6 Mozilla cutting off text.
Greetings, When I use NN6 or Mozilla and view a page that has a list of hrefs I see what appears to be the lower line cutting off 1/2 of the line above it. Obviously this makes it impossible to read the page. If I use netscape 4.76 this does not happen. I'm running a stable potato with kernel 2.4.1. I start x in 16 bit mode at 120 dpi. I've set NN6 and Mozilla to 120 dpi also. No help there. I am running the xfstt pkg and using arial 10 point as my font. Any ideas what might be causing this? Bill
OT - DOS vs Linux text files?
Greetings, Highlighting and pasting from what I think is an origionally created in windows text file to a linux file produces successive lines that are indented across the screen. However when I create a file in linux and then highlight and paste into another file it works fine. I think the files that are giving me trouble are windows created because I see: BlessedEquipment.html [dos] 127L, 4640C written when I :w in vim. If the problem is they were created within windows then what is it I need to strip out of the files? Use perl to do it? I'm frustrated with constantly having to highlight and paragraphs of text. Bill
Re: OT - DOS vs Linux text files?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:12:58PM -0600, William Jensen wrote: Greetings, If the problem is they were created within windows then what is it I need to strip out of the files? Use perl to do it? You might look at the dos2unix program and its partner unix2dos. -- I installed the sysutils and ran it on all the files I had in a particular directory. Opened up a file and copied from one to another and the same thing happens. Could this be a tab issue? Here is an example of what I see on a paste: body h3Equipment: Adventurers Tokens/h3 h3Area: Varies/h3 h3Quest Level: N/A/h3 h3Notes:/h3 Any ideas? Wm Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - DOS vs Linux text files?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:56:20PM -0600, William Jensen wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:12:58PM -0600, William Jensen wrote: Greetings, If the problem is they were created within windows then what is it I need to strip out of the files? Use perl to do it? You might look at the dos2unix program and its partner unix2dos. -- I installed the sysutils and ran it on all the files I had in a particular directory. Opened up a file and copied from one to another and the same thing happens. Could this be a tab issue? I meant to say I installed the sysutils pkg which contained dos2unix and that I what I ran against the directory of text files. Here is an example of what I see on a paste: body h3Equipment: Adventurers Tokens/h3 h3Area: Varies/h3 h3Quest Level: N/A/h3 h3Notes:/h3 Any ideas? Wm Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - DOS vs Linux text files?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:12:42PM -0600, Chad C. Walstrom wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:12:58PM -0600, William Jensen wrote: Highlighting and pasting from what I think is an origionally created in windows text file to a linux file produces successive lines that are indented across the screen. However when I create a file in linux and then highlight and paste into another file it works fine. I think the files that are giving me trouble are windows created because I see: BlessedEquipment.html [dos] 127L, 4640C written when I :w in vim. If the problem is they were created within windows then what is it I need to strip out of the files? Use perl to do it? I'm frustrated with constantly having to highlight and paragraphs of text. try 'set ff=unix' to save as unix format and 'set ff=dos' to save in dos format. Hilighting is done with 'v' for visual while in command mode. You should really type ':help' one of these days and read a bit up on your editor. ;-) I'm familiar with highlighting/pasting, nudging a paragraph in/out etc in the same file. I was just confused why a paste from a diff text file (using the mouse as the cut/paste tool) was producing crazy indenting. Looks like the culprit was cindent in my case. Thanks for the noai tip. That also fixes the paste. Thanks to all who responded. Bill -- Chad Walstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] | a.k.a. ^chewie http://www.wookimus.net/| s.k.a. gunnarr Key fingerprint = B4AB D627 9CBD 687E 7A31 1950 0CC7 0B18 206C 5AFD
OffTopic - What's the proper way to...
I've got a web site that has some protected data. On some of the pages I have javascript that does some calculations. Right now I have it so if they click on the link to that page it auto asks for username/password, however, what I would like to do is let them see the page and only ask for username/password once they click the calculate button. Is this type of thing done thru the use of cgi scripts or what. There is probably more than one way to do it but I'd be interested in some opinions in a good way to accomplish this. Wm
regular expression?
Greetings, I am trying to find a regular expression that will include every file in a directory except one named one. For example if I had a file called index.html and then hundreds of other .html files in the same directory, how can I do a reg expression to say all the .html files except index.html? Been rack'n my brain on this one for a bit of time and I could use some help from someone more experienced. Thanks. Bill
Re: regular expression?
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 08:29:34PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 07:22:31PM -0600, William Jensen wrote:
Greetings,
I am trying to find a regular expression that will include every file
in a directory except one named one. For example if I had a file
called index.html and then hundreds of other .html files in the same
directory, how can I do a reg expression to say all the .html files
except index.html? Been rack'n my brain on this one for a bit of time
and I could use some help from someone more experienced.
Note sure in what context you are doing this, but in perl I would do:
while (DIRLIST) {
/^index.html$/ and next;
}
and in shell
for file in `ls * | egrep -v '^index.html$'`; do
done
Ben
I should have been more specific. This is in regards to apache. I want
to control user access by file not directory. I don't want to name
every singe file though, so I'd like to say everything except index.html
gets a password.
Sorry for the confusion thought I did like the perl tip. :)
Bill
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Value too large for defined data type?
Greetings, I tarred up my /home directory in preparation for burning it for safe keeping. When tar was done running it exited then reported that the file I just made was literally too big to do anything with. rm, mv, cp, nothing will affect it. Here is what I see: rm: cannot remove `/tmp/save.tar': Value too large for defined data type I was storing the save.tar in /tmp. I'm running stable version with kernel 2.4.0. I have tried as root also to remove this file. How can I get rid of this bugger? Bill
adding ftp user
I've just installed ftpd from the stable potato packages. Anonymous ftp cannot log in because ftp user does not exist. I've setup a chroot jail in /home/ftp. What's the best way to add user ftp in a security conscious way. I tried useradd ftp, then in /etc/passwd I changed it's shell to /bin/false. Anything else I should be aware of? I'd use scp but work's firewall has the port blocked and I'm not particularly excited about sending my username and password for my normal account login so I decided to go the anonymous way. Bill
Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)
Greetings folks, As a newcomer to Debian I, like many since I've joined this list, ask typical newbie questions about the some basic things. If we take a step back and look at the big picture there is a basic group of things new users want to get accomplished. For example most users want to send mail to other people. While we could say to them go RTFM! that is hardly what they are asking for. If they did take that RTFM advice...how many of them do you think would stay around? Not a lot likely. HOWTO's, README's, etc are fine and dandy and very informative once you have a base knowledge under your belt and you can appreciate what they are. But for someone that is brand new it is just overwhelming. What I'm getting around to saying is how can we, the Debian community, set up some newbie FAQ's that are tailored specifically at the very new person trying out linux and doesn't want every switch explained in detail. Most people, if I am not mistaken, want easy to understand documentation that gets them up and running fast with concrete examples of the cmd in action for a variety of most used scenarios. Take the following topics: email, ssh, http, sound, xwindows, security, word processors, tar Each one of those topics probably has a handful of how do I associated with it that a very new user would typically ask to this list. First off I'd like to ask if someone has already gathered a FAQ like this for Debian. If not, I'd like to volunteer my time in creating (when I have the knowledge) parts of the FAQ. Some basic questions come up though and these I throw out to you, the Debian community: 1. Who would house/display the FAQ so it is always available. 2. Who can contribute and how? 3. Who does quality control checks? 4. How do you submit an article to be included? 5. What would be a successful structure/format? 6. Would the Debian main page hold a link to this if it's done well and tailored toward Debian? Again, I'd like to be part of this and am willing do devote some of my time to getting easy to understand documentation out to newbies...of which I still consider myself a member. I have several other newbie friends that I provide tech support to on linux and most of the time I end up referring them to a spot on my home website that I have documented how I was able to get things working for myself. If your interested in this project or have suggestions please feel free to contact me on the list here or privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be a shame to let all the talent that people on this list have stored in their heads go to waste by being burned out by constant repeats of the same question. Regards, Bill Jensen
Re: make monitor power-saving blank -HOW?
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:32:54PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 01:43:04AM +0200, Gerald Richter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! anyone remember how to get the monitor not just go black, but tell it to use the -what was it called? vesa-compliant green-mode stuff-thing... in ~/.xsession or /etc/X11/Xsession, add: xset blank-seconds standby-seconds shutdown-seconds e.g.: xset 600 900 1200 ...which gives ten minutes to blank, 15 minutes to standby, and 20 minutes to shutdown, on my monitor. I have to use xset dpms 600 900 1200. Without the dpms in there it doesn't do anything for me. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
Re: Where is calculator?
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 01:46:16PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 11:52:25AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: I'm sure I used to have a program called calculator (or xcalc?) in Slink, but it doesn't seem to be there in Potato. Is it in Woody? xcalc is in the xcontrib package, and should be avaliable in potato (I haven't checked, though). It is certainly avaliable in woody. There's also other programs that do the same job - try apt-cache search calculator for some suggestions. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ There is a fantastic calculator for X in potato called calctool. IE... apt-get install calctool. Wm
http port open?? how can that be?
Greetings, I do not have apache installed, nmap localhost does not show http being open, however, if I go to a friends machine and nmap my ip it shows http being open. Also grc.com's port probe shows http being open. Thing is I just don't see how this is possible considering I'm running iptables and the default policy is drop. Anyone have any ideas what could be sneaking and letting port 80 open? Bill
Re: http port open?? how can that be?
Already checked that. inetd.conf shows nothing about http and I do not have a xinetd. Any other guesses? Bill - Forwarded message from will trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:07:30 -0500 From: will trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: http port open?? how can that be? User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:50:40AM -0500, William Jensen wrote: Greetings, I do not have apache installed, nmap localhost does not show http being open, however, if I go to a friends machine and nmap my ip it shows http being open. Also grc.com's port probe shows http being open. Thing is I just don't see how this is possible considering I'm running iptables and the default policy is drop. Anyone have any ideas what could be sneaking and letting port 80 open? just guessing... inetd (or xinetd) may be listening to various ports whether you have services to run on them or not. check your /etc/*inetd.conf setup and /etc/init.d/*inetd reload after tweaking (if this is the problem)... hth -- things are more like they used to be than they are now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message -
new network card defective?
Greetings everyone, I dropped an intel etherexpress pro/100 into the system this morning, redid the kernel to support. First time I booted up I saw the following as fast as it could draw to the screen: Oct 12 09:37:21 stimpy kernel: eth0: card reports no RX buffers. Oct 12 09:37:21 stimpy kernel: eth0: card reports no resources. I rebooted and it worked fine. What is this error supposed to be telling me and any ideas on resolution so it isn't a 'flaky' problem that happens off and on? Thanks, Bill
Re: BitchX auto accept DCC
Inside your ~/.BitchX directory is a file called BitchX.sav. Find the line listed below and set the value to off not on. SET DCC_AUTOGET OFF Regards, Bill On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:53:03PM -0400, Joel Dinel wrote: By default, BitchX auto accepts DCC transfers. I'm reading the (long) man pages right now, but it doesn't mention anything about DCC settings. How do I disable that ? Thanks, -- Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Mutt's Editor
Joel, I use VIM for everything, not just mutt, so I added: export VISUAL=vim export EDITOR=vim to my .bash_profile...tho nate's solution works equally well. bill - Forwarded message from Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:28:33 -0500 From: Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Mutt's Editor User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.15 i586 unknown On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:21:53PM -0400, Joel Dinel wrote: I'd want to use VIM as my primary text editor in Mutt. What line do I need to add to my ~/.vimrc ? Thanks ! Hi Joel. In ~./mutt/muttrc check this line: set editor=/usr/bin/vim That's all I had to do. HTH, - Nate -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | None can love freedom Internet | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | heartily, but good Location | Wichita, Kansas USA EM17hs | men; the rest love not Wichita area exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | freedom, but license. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | -- John Milton -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message -
request advice
I'd like to stick mainly with potato, but I also am running 2.4 series kernel. The iptables deb pkg is only in woody so I dl that manually. When I try to install it it tells me that my libc is too old. I would prefer not to go into woody at this time because when I did yesterday it broke c++ or more specifically c++ compiles using setw() no longer worked. I'd appreciate any advice you guys might have on how I can get iptables installed without fully going to woody. Bill
Off Topic: streaming a text file into a command?
Hey guys, I'm trying to find the fastest mirror site. I am using a package called netselect. Works like this netselect -vv host1 host2 ... hostx. Wonderful little utility. Anyway, I have a list of mirrors in a text file like this: host1 host2 host3 How can I pump that file into netselect? I tried netselect -vv file but it just laughed at me. :) Bill
anyone notice any g++ differences?
I waited for the hub-ub of the last couple weeks woody situation to cool down and dependencies to be fixed before I upgraded. I did the dist-upgrade tonight with the --download-only option. Then I used dpkg -i *.deb. There were a couple problems that I fixed and it seems everything is OK. However, I went and compiled a homework assignment I'm working on again under the new g++ and it seems not to recognize setw(). I run the old binary and the spacing is fine, the new compile and the output is smashed together. I'd prefer not to have to reboot to windows to run visual c++ for homework but... So does anyone have an idea if this is a quirk of the new code? Should I report this to anyone? And most importantly has anyone else run across this yet? Bill
[jensenb@charter.net: anyone notice any g++ differences?]
If no one has any ideas I guess I'll have to reinstall debian because I need a functioning devel platform :( I guess I learned a lesson today eh. Wm - Forwarded message from William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:36:13 -0500 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: anyone notice any g++ differences? User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i From: William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I waited for the hub-ub of the last couple weeks woody situation to cool down and dependencies to be fixed before I upgraded. I did the dist-upgrade tonight with the --download-only option. Then I used dpkg -i *.deb. There were a couple problems that I fixed and it seems everything is OK. However, I went and compiled a homework assignment I'm working on again under the new g++ and it seems not to recognize setw(). I run the old binary and the spacing is fine, the new compile and the output is smashed together. I'd prefer not to have to reboot to windows to run visual c++ for homework but... So does anyone have an idea if this is a quirk of the new code? Should I report this to anyone? And most importantly has anyone else run across this yet? Bill -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message -
apt stat problem continues
As reported yesterday apt-get update produces errors at the end. Can anyone tell me and the other people experiencing this what the problem is and how we could fix it, or who we should inform if this isn't a user fixable problem. Apt-cache search produces the same problem. For reference, I'm on a standard potato install with vim and iptables from woody. stimpy:/home/jensenb# apt-get update Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/main Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Release Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Packages Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Release Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Packages Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Release Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/main Release Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Release Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Release Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Release Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Release Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Release Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages' (/var/state/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Packages' (/var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages' (/var/state/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files
sudden apt-get update problem
every few days i run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to keep my 'potato' system up to date. today I see the following: stimpy:~# apt-get update Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages Get:1 http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/main Packages [14.4kB] Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages [835kB] Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Release Get:3 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Packages [29B] Get:4 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Release [114B] Get:5 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Packages [3625B] Get:6 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Release [115B] Get:7 http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/main Release [100B] Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Packages Get:8 http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Release [103B] Get:9 http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Packages [6047B] Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Release Get:10 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Release [93B] Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages Get:11 http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Release [96B] Get:12 http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages [73.5kB] Get:13 http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Release [97B] Fetched 933kB in 2m23s (6504B/s) Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages' (/var/state/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Packages' (/var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages' (/var/state/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files So I ran it again with the same results. I have not changed anything in my system. My sources.list looks like: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free I've even went into /var/state/lists and wacked all of the 'old' ones in there and then rebuilt using apt-get update again. What's the scoop? Bill
Off Topic: Mesa, opengl, glide, argh what is this jibberish!
I'll confess right from the start I'm ignorant about this topic. Some of the words I read about are: OpenGL Direct3d Mesa Glide Direct3d I pretty much get...it's MS's 3d implementation. Can someone compare and contrast what OpenGL, Mesa and Glide mean? This is in specific regards to Linux and xfree86 gaming. I want to run Unreal Tournament on Linux but so far the reading that I've done tells me the only cards supported for linux gaming are the 3dfx voodoo cards. Of course I have a tnt2 ultra (nvidia). Also, how does the above discussion intermix itself with the release of xfree86 4.0? If someone has a FAQ or a online article that explains these things, please pass it on instead of a reply to this post. Bill
Re: Graphical FTP client
Chris, Try gftp. The homepage is: http://gftp.seul.org/ The deb package is: gftp Regards, Bill On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 06:19:21PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: I'm looking for a graphical FTP program to use under KDE. My windows program is ws-ftp so anything similar would be best. Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 USA Fax (561) 382-7771 Take a virtual tour of the island http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide Find out more about NetConcepts www.netconcepts.ai Talk to me in real time with Instant Messenging: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
OT: Apache www no www
I have a forwarder setup with my domain to go from www.mydomain to mydomain so anyone using http://www.mydomain.com will just get routed to mydomain.com. I tried it out at work today to find it isn't working, but going straight to mydomain.com does. When I tail -f /var/log/apache/access.log I see a very strange thing: 24-216-4-15.hsacorp.net - - [08/Oct/2000:17:53:18 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.0 304 - This is NOT my ip. When I did a lookup on it it is indeed my provider but it's not me. Why would my provider's pc be involved with this? Bill
[jensenb@charter.net: OT: Apache www no www]
As a followup, it's not that going to www.mydomain.com doesn't work, it just shows up completly blank. If it matters I'm running potato and version 1.3.9. Bill - Forwarded message from William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:54:29 -0500 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: OT: Apache www no www User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i From: William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a forwarder setup with my domain to go from www.mydomain to mydomain so anyone using http://www.mydomain.com will just get routed to mydomain.com. I tried it out at work today to find it isn't working, but going straight to mydomain.com does. When I tail -f /var/log/apache/access.log I see a very strange thing: 24-216-4-15.hsacorp.net - - [08/Oct/2000:17:53:18 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.0 304 - This is NOT my ip. When I did a lookup on it it is indeed my provider but it's not me. Why would my provider's pc be involved with this? Bill -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message -
Re: Virtual screen switcher
Potato has it and the name is screen. apt-get install screen stimpy:~$ dpkg -l screen Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii screen 3.9.5-9A screen manager with VT100/ANSI terminal em On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 11:28:01PM +0200, Egbert Bouwman wrote: Hello, There seems to exist a program 'screen' with which you can go to another virtual screen. Makes Alt-Fn obsolete, more or less. I can not locate it. Is it in potato ? Somewhere else ? egbert -- Egbert Bouwman - Keizersgracht 197 II - 1016 DS Amsterdam - 020 6257991 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
strange errors on leaving Enlightenment
When I exit E, I notice this: libmikmod.so.2 -- no found libGL.so.1 -- not found I have a stock potato install except I added iptables, a 2.4-test7 kernel, and sftp from unstable. Does anyone know what might be calling to those files listed above? Or if/why I need them? Wm
Confused on iptables and ftp..yes still...
My iptable rule: $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp ! --syn --source-port 20 --destination-port 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT I read this as any packed that is not a --syn type from source 20 on the ftp server i'm hooking up to, destined to my pc port 1024:65535 jumps to ACCEPT here's a snip of my log files: Oct 3 14:32:44 stimpy kernel: Firewall:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:10:5a:15:35:f1:00:30 :71:78:24:00:08:00 SRC=209.10.41.242 DST=24.216.244.106 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x0 0 TTL=54 ID=29441 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=20 DPT=32778 WINDOW=32120 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 And that's telling me that it's coming from port 20, it's tcp, and it's headed to my port 32778, which should jump to ACCEPT! I simply cannot understand why the firewall is dropping those packets. Allan was nice enough to point me to a web site talking about firewalls and ftp and I 'thought' I had the right stuff being let thru. Here's a twist...the exact same firewall rules were successfull when I was runnin woody, but now that I'm on a standard potato with 'iptables' added separately it's not working. Any ideas? Frustrated, Bill
Re: Package List
dpkg -l Wm On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 05:46:59PM -0400, Christopher W. Aiken wrote: OK, I give up. On a rpm flavor of Linux I can do a rpm -qa to get a list of ALL installed packages on my system. What do I have to do to get a list of ALL installed packages on Debian 2.2?? -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Current O/S: Debian 2.2 GNU/Linux -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Off Topic : c++ function for rounding
Hey guys, I know this isn't the right list, but how would I even find the 'right list' for a c++ question? I know about ceil and floor but those aren't what I'm after. I'm looking for a function that will take 1.4 and make it 1, but 1.5 or higher is 2. Know what I mean? Any built-in c++ function to do that? Bill
Off Topic : ftp and firewall issues
Call me goofy because my firewall decided it was going to stop working. I have the following line in for allowing ftp info back and forth... $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp ! --syn --source-port 20 --destination-port 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT I also tried..port 21 $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp ! --syn --source-port 21 --destination-port 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT I can ftp into a ftp site and move around directories but I cannot see anything on a ls. What have I wrought? Grumbling, Wm
Off Topic: mutt and threading
When I change into debian-user folder I have to always use o t for sort by thread. There has to be a way that I can tell mutt to always use threaded mode? Wm
re: Off Topic: mutt and threading
Forget it, the answer is set sort=threads I asked before I did a full investigation. mybad Wm - Forwarded message from William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:11:21 -0500 From: William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Off Topic: mutt and threading User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i When I change into debian-user folder I have to always use o t for sort by thread. There has to be a way that I can tell mutt to always use threaded mode? Wm -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message -
Re: Changing E wallpaper
click middle button go into desktop menu go into backgrounds menu there you go, select one..that is assuming you have put some background images in the directory :) wm On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 10:55:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I change my desktop wallpaper in Enlightenment? -- -Matt ObeseWhale Grinshpun -Site Director, The Darker Sector -http://www.3dactionplanet.com/darksector -Coming soon, Hyperleap -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: firewall (fwd)
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 03:50:04PM +0200, mario wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone found making a debian machine with firewall support useful? Yes, very much so What are firewalls useful for? Do they simply prevent packets from passing through the firewall into the rest of the network? It depends. Firewall can mean different things: It may be a packet filtering firewall which does what you think it does. This functionality is built into the kernel (needs a recompile, probably). The interface to change its behavior is ipchains (for the 2.2.x-kernel, 2.0.x and 2.4.x use other means), i.e. you write a shell script that gets executed in a runlevel, which sets your config. Another type of firewall is a proxying firewall. There is a package called SOCKS that does this (maybe others too). Proxies work on the application level, IIRC, and so can know things that apacket filtering firewall can't know. They need the ability to use the proxy compiled into client programs too, though. Would a firewall necessarly have to be also configured to be a router? Again, it depends. A proper firewall should be a standalone machine without user accounts, without network services running and with as little SW as possible installed (no compilers, ...). If behind the firewall you have a network then, yes, it can do routing, too. It can also do IP masquerading. Note that there are much more sophisticated setups with demilitarized zones around the firewall and all kinds of stuff. What to build depends on your security requirements. OTOH, you can have packet filtering enabled on a standalone workstation with dial-up or cable/dsl access. No routing in this case, of course. This way, you at least can stay out of random script-kiddie portscans (or your cable provider's scans). It's also great to be able to control OH? Why would my cable modem provider scan my box? What would they be looking for? Even though I didn't ask the question, thanks for the info Mario! Wm what's allowed to go /out/, e.g., when you're configuring network stuff and don't want your MTA to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :o) Note that you should never rely on firewall security alone, but have your services configured properly, too (tcp wrappers, etc.). You don't want your machines completely open when the firewall is compromised. Any info you guys can provide would be useful. I was thinking about making one of my debian machies a firewall, but don't really know what I would do with it:) I recommend the book Linux Firewalls by Robert L. Ziegler, New Riders, ISBN 0-7357-0900-9. He has also a webpage http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/ with lots of info and a nifty tool where you answer questions and it will generate a firewall script for you. If you're security requirements are modest, this is maybe all you need. There are other books too, like Building OpenBSD and Linux Firewalls (IIRC), but I don't know them. There are also some GUI firewall tools for gnome, like firestarter and others (see www.gnome.org), probably for KDE, too. Note, however, that at least firestarter is AFAIK made to work with RedHat, so it needs a bit tweaking to work with the debian way of init. Very good reading is also Securing and Optimizing Linux, http://www.openna.com/books/book.htm Note that it's for RedHat, but it's easy to apply it to debian A nice exercise is to scan/attack your machine/network from the outside before and after the firewall is in place. If you're lazy ;o) a quick way to get a portscan on the well known ports done is to use Shields Up! at http://www.grc.com/ (disable your isp's proxy in your browser settings before, otherwise not you but your isp's proxy will be scanned!). You want it to report stealth for every port you don't need available from the outside Hope this helps (well, I'm sure) Greetings -- I did not vote for the Austrian government Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Visit http://www.gnu.org/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: How to set Xserver resolution
How do you determine what the proper dpi should be? How do you calculate it? Wm On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 01:38:36PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Subject: How to set Xserver resolution Date: Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 02:53:46PM +0200 In reply to:Philipp Lehman Quoting Philipp Lehman([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I noticed that xdpyinfo reports a resolution of 75x75 dpi for my Xserver. When I calculate the real resolution however, it is about 90 dpi. Can I override this somehow? The reason I'm asking is that some apps (Gimp, LyX) query the Xserver for the resolution and adjust things like zoom factors and fonts accordingly. TIA startx -bpp 16 -dpi 120 Would be one way. HTH=Hope This Helps, YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary, HAND=Have A Nice Day -- On-line, adj.: The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a computer. ___ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
traceroute ping fail
I think it's my firewall blocking them going _out_ because when I take the firewall offline both ping and traceroute work fine. Ping works on localhost, though traceroute does not when the firewall is up. Unfortunetly I am too new at both debian and firewalling to know where I went wrong. I'm trying to set it up so I can ping and traceroute to other boxes but other 'bad' boxes can't do it to me. What information can I follow this msg up with that will be helpful? I call the firewall from /etc/rc2.d/S90firewall_up which is just a sym link to /etc/init.d/firewall_up. On a side note, when I added the logging line: $IPT -A Firewall -j LOG --log-level info --log-prefix Firewall: It produces a TON of the following as fast as it can put them in the log file. How do I read this and even more importantly how can I make it log the rejects properly so that I can actually catch people trying to scan the box etc. Oct 1 13:28:11 stimpy kernel: Firewall:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:20:78:cb:ce:05:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=576 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=2 PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=556 If it would help I can attach the actual firewall script.
Re: traceroute ping fail
An update to myself...in case others are having this problem: I added the following rule to my script: $IPT -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 0 -j ACCEPT My understanding is now the box will accpet 'echo replies' that I would generate by 'ping debian.org'. I then went to another pc on the net and tried to ping my own box and it still just drops the packets. (which I want) Can anyone see anything wrong with what I've done? On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 01:47:48PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: I think it's my firewall blocking them going _out_ because when I take the firewall offline both ping and traceroute work fine. Ping works on localhost, though traceroute does not when the firewall is up. Unfortunetly I am too new at both debian and firewalling to know where I went wrong. I'm trying to set it up so I can ping and traceroute to other boxes but other 'bad' boxes can't do it to me. What information can I follow this msg up with that will be helpful? I call the firewall from /etc/rc2.d/S90firewall_up which is just a sym link to /etc/init.d/firewall_up. On a side note, when I added the logging line: $IPT -A Firewall -j LOG --log-level info --log-prefix Firewall: It produces a TON of the following as fast as it can put them in the log file. How do I read this and even more importantly how can I make it log the rejects properly so that I can actually catch people trying to scan the box etc. Oct 1 13:28:11 stimpy kernel: Firewall:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:20:78:cb:ce:05:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=576 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=2 PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=556 If it would help I can attach the actual firewall script.
Re: traceroute ping fail
Another update to myself and others that may want this information: This update concerns traceroute. If I added the following rules I can now traceroute to anywhere, but traceroutes to me fail: $IPT -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type time-exceeded -j ACCEPT $IPT -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type port-unreachable -j ACCEPT Again, the same question goes out to those of you more familiar with iptables, did I mistakenly leave myself open here? Bill On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 04:04:36PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: An update to myself...in case others are having this problem: I added the following rule to my script: $IPT -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 0 -j ACCEPT My understanding is now the box will accpet 'echo replies' that I would generate by 'ping debian.org'. I then went to another pc on the net and tried to ping my own box and it still just drops the packets. (which I want) Can anyone see anything wrong with what I've done? On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 01:47:48PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: I think it's my firewall blocking them going _out_ because when I take the firewall offline both ping and traceroute work fine. Ping works on localhost, though traceroute does not when the firewall is up. Unfortunetly I am too new at both debian and firewalling to know where I went wrong. I'm trying to set it up so I can ping and traceroute to other boxes but other 'bad' boxes can't do it to me. What information can I follow this msg up with that will be helpful? I call the firewall from /etc/rc2.d/S90firewall_up which is just a sym link to /etc/init.d/firewall_up. On a side note, when I added the logging line: $IPT -A Firewall -j LOG --log-level info --log-prefix Firewall: It produces a TON of the following as fast as it can put them in the log file. How do I read this and even more importantly how can I make it log the rejects properly so that I can actually catch people trying to scan the box etc. Oct 1 13:28:11 stimpy kernel: Firewall:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:20:78:cb:ce:05:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=576 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=2 PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=556 If it would help I can attach the actual firewall script.
offtopic : disecting an iptables log message
Here's an example: Oct 1 18:30:09 stimpy kernel: Firewall:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:80:5a:e6:33:00:08:00 SRC=24.216.244.211 DST=24.216.244.255 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=17211 PROTO=UDP SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58 I'm reading that as: -coming IN to my eth0 -going OUT my MAC address because it doesn't belong to my ip -SRC is the source ip -DST is the destination ip, but the last .255 makes me wonder if this isn't being broadcast to everyone on the network -LEN is the lenght? but of what? -TOS ?? -PREC ?? -TTL ?? -ID ?? -PROTO is using the UDP protocol -SPT i assume is source port 137 from 'their' machine -DPT i assume is the destination port on DST (which isn't me) -LEN 2nd lenght?? Is there a faq somewhere that can help me break this stuff down so I can pour over the logs and understand what I'm looking at.
Disregard - Need to test a new setup.
I'm still working on trying to get the list to be delivered to home. Sending a test here. Wm
apt-get upgrade broke apache
After a apt-get upgrade I see: Syntax error on line 221 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_rewrite.so into server: symbol dbm_close, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libdb.so.3 with link time reference /usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started Is this just par for the course when running woody stuff? Occasionally stuff breaks for a while? I do not know what mod_rewrite.so does, but I commented it out and the server came up. Any ideas on what to do to find out what broke and how to fix it? Wm
list down?
I haven't seen anything my way since about midnight on 9/26. Is down? Or is this perhaps a side effect of the problems with apt-get upgrade recently? Wm
OT what happens to mail when...
Warning: Ignorant question coming... I've registered a domain, setup deb to be 'on' the net and have exim directly handling the mail sent directly to the domain. What happens to mail that is sent to the domain when I'm rebooted into windows and playing games? Wm
Re: Bitchx and screen do NOT cooperate in 2.2
Gecco, This isn't directly addressing your question, however, what I do when I have screen and bitchx running is I manage screen like this: ctrl-a c-- new screen ctrl-a a-- swap back and forth between the last screen and this one ctrl-a x-- x is the number of the screen you want to go to ctrl-a d-- detach the screen session screen -r -- re-attach the screen session Regards, Wm On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 12:35:53PM +0200, Gecco wrote: Hi, I've got debian 2.2 installed on TWO computers with all security updates applied. However, when I run bitchx under screen and try to create new window (/window create) it ends up with: -:- Opening new screen... -:- The screen is now dead. child signaled with 11 Errno is 4 -:- Cannot create new screen! on both machines. I've circumvented it already by creating windows different way, but the error *seems* to be a bug (as it didn't happen in earlier versions of bitchx and screen). Could you check the command in your boxes? Regards, Gecco PS. bitchx is Version (BitchX-1.0c16) -- Date (19990221). (dselect says- 1.0-0c16-2) and screen is 3.9.5-9. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: More newby Qs
Read this over and it will answer most every question you have: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linag2/book/index.html Bill On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 06:34:27PM -0700, ObeseWhale wrote: Allright, got X up and running so now I want to get my ethernet card working. Where do I set up ip address, both dns servers, subnet and gateway? Also, it seems as if I don't have Netscape, does anyone know how I can install it from the web without using a browser... A place I can download a tarball, rpm or .deb from and how I can get them? Thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
OT: SCSI woes?
As some of you know, I've recently converted to a full scsi system. I compiled a 2.4.0-test8 kernel with the following options: SCSI support SCSI disk support SCSI CD-ROM support SCSI generic support SCSI low-level-drivers ---Adaptec AIC7xxx support SCSI low-level-drivers ---Enable Tagged Command Queuing Thats it. When I boot up things appear normal at first: (scsi0) Adaptec AIC-7892 Ultra 160/m SCSI host adapter found at PCI 0/9/0 (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 32/255 SCBs (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 392 instructions downloaded scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.2.1/5.2.0 Adaptec AIC-7892 Ultra 160/m SCSI host adapter scsi : 1 host. (scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 160.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 63. Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST318451LWRev: 0003 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 (scsi0:0:1:0) Synchronous at 20.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 8. Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-R PX-W124TS Rev: 1.05 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 1 SCSI disk total. sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 35843671 [17501 MB] [17.5 GB] Partition check: sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 If I'm reading this right, it found my host adapter, found the HD, and the CD-ROM. The partition check shows sda1 sda2 sda3. All which appears right to me. Then the follow appears further down the dmesg sequence: SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 35843671 [17501 MB] [17.5 GB] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 Excuse me? sdb? I only have one HD in the system which is broken into three partitions. Windoze, swap, linux. What does the second entry mean? OK, finally onto the woes part. When I run cdparanoia -B (burn the entire cd into individual files) I get the following interesting error: Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom... Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface /dev/sr0 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM. Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface No generic SCSI device found to match CDROM device /dev/sr0 Well, isn't that interesting? My user account belongs to the cdrom group so I should have access to the following: stimpy:~$ ls -l /dev/sr0 brw-rw2 root cdrom 11, 0 Jul 5 12:44 /dev/sr0 stimpy:~$ ls -l /dev/cdrom lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Sep 22 07:11 /dev/cdrom - sr0 So /dev/cdrom is pointing to the right place and I have access to sr0, dmesg is showing that it recognizes the cdrom, I've included generic scsi support in the kernel, why on earth isn't cdparanoia able to use it? I hope I'm missing something terrible simple because I'd hate to have spent all that money to convert to a scsi system and not be able to use it. :( Regards, Wm
Re: OT: SCSI woes?
Followup: This is information about the cdparanoia issue. I poked around on the cdparanoia site and it said I needed the corret /dev/sg device. Well low and behold I do not have one. I'm guessing this is the problem. So I: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV -v sg This output: create sg0 c 21 0 root:root 0600 create sg1 c 21 1 root:root 0600 create sg2 c 21 2 root:root 0600 create sg3 c 21 3 root:root 0600 create sg4 c 21 4 root:root 0600 create sg5 c 21 5 root:root 0600 create sg6 c 21 6 root:root 0600 create sg7 c 21 7 root:root 0600 create sg8 c 21 8 root:root 0600 create sg9 c 21 9 root:root 0600 create sg10 c 21 10 root:root 0600 create sg11 c 21 11 root:root 0600 create sg12 c 21 12 root:root 0600 create sg13 c 21 13 root:root 0600 create sg14 c 21 14 root:root 0600 create sg15 c 21 15 root:root 0600 create sg16 c 21 16 root:root 0600 Still same no generic SCSI device found. Any ideas?
Re: OT: SCSI woes?
Another followup on my own dealings: As root, cdparanoia now runs after I setup the /dev/sg's. Great, but my local useraccount still cannot use it. So...I chmod 4755 (as someone else pointed out) the cdparanoia binary and now my useraccount can use it fine. My question now is, what group is the right group to have /dev/sg's set to? It's currently at root. For example cdrom, audio? Would this break anything else? Wm On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 12:45:42PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: Followup: This is information about the cdparanoia issue. I poked around on the cdparanoia site and it said I needed the corret /dev/sg device. Well low and behold I do not have one. I'm guessing this is the problem. So I: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV -v sg This output: create sg0 c 21 0 root:root 0600 create sg1 c 21 1 root:root 0600 create sg2 c 21 2 root:root 0600 create sg3 c 21 3 root:root 0600 create sg4 c 21 4 root:root 0600 create sg5 c 21 5 root:root 0600 create sg6 c 21 6 root:root 0600 create sg7 c 21 7 root:root 0600 create sg8 c 21 8 root:root 0600 create sg9 c 21 9 root:root 0600 create sg10 c 21 10 root:root 0600 create sg11 c 21 11 root:root 0600 create sg12 c 21 12 root:root 0600 create sg13 c 21 13 root:root 0600 create sg14 c 21 14 root:root 0600 create sg15 c 21 15 root:root 0600 create sg16 c 21 16 root:root 0600 Still same no generic SCSI device found. Any ideas? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: OT: SCSI woes?
I'm afraid that last msg wasn't too clear... I'd like to not use the chmod 4755 method if I can. Is there a group I could use on the /dev/sg devices that would allow my user account access yet not break anything (for example xcdroast). I already have chmod 660 /dev/sg* to allow the addition of a group. On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 12:59:13PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: Another followup on my own dealings: As root, cdparanoia now runs after I setup the /dev/sg's. Great, but my local useraccount still cannot use it. So...I chmod 4755 (as someone else pointed out) the cdparanoia binary and now my useraccount can use it fine. My question now is, what group is the right group to have /dev/sg's set to? It's currently at root. For example cdrom, audio? Would this break anything else? Wm On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 12:45:42PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: Followup: This is information about the cdparanoia issue. I poked around on the cdparanoia site and it said I needed the corret /dev/sg device. Well low and behold I do not have one. I'm guessing this is the problem. So I: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV -v sg This output: create sg0 c 21 0 root:root 0600 create sg1 c 21 1 root:root 0600 create sg2 c 21 2 root:root 0600 create sg3 c 21 3 root:root 0600 create sg4 c 21 4 root:root 0600 create sg5 c 21 5 root:root 0600 create sg6 c 21 6 root:root 0600 create sg7 c 21 7 root:root 0600 create sg8 c 21 8 root:root 0600 create sg9 c 21 9 root:root 0600 create sg10 c 21 10 root:root 0600 create sg11 c 21 11 root:root 0600 create sg12 c 21 12 root:root 0600 create sg13 c 21 13 root:root 0600 create sg14 c 21 14 root:root 0600 create sg15 c 21 15 root:root 0600 create sg16 c 21 16 root:root 0600 Still same no generic SCSI device found. Any ideas? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Procmail filtering / UNDELIVERABLE EMAIL
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 04:39:21PM -0400, Joel Dinel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am still getting mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is what I have in my ~/.procmail/rc.spam : :0 * ^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :0 * ^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null What am I doing wrong ? Here's mine, it works, YMMV: :0: * ^From:.[EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Luck, Wm Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.71b Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOc5mfZiq2Gf2udcfEQIl0gCgoPM04XIJCWLaGLUuHNjdm34qoKcAoNmU v+kZJYrlJSmIVeuX49A4UyUa =+IkH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Strange x11 problem
As root you could: ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse Alternatively, you could redo xf86config and instead of accepting the default of /dev/mouse put in /dev/psaux. This is assuming you have a ps2 mouse, which you did not specify. Regards, Wm On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 07:49:25PM -0700, ObeseWhale wrote: I'm a relative newbie to debian, and happened upon this problem. I configured X11 through xf86config and then ran startx. The problem is that when I run it it says no directory 'mouse' (something along those lines)... Looking in /dev I see that I have no /dev/mouse. What should I do? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Off Topic - SUID?
What is SUID? RipperX complains it wants to be run as SUID? Wm
OT: IRC the ~
Is the ~ in front of your name in IRC due to the lack of auth installed? I cannot find identd anywhere with dpkg. I've tried dpkg -l|grep iden. When I had deb installed on another system I somehow picked up identd and I was not listed as ~ in name so that got me thinking. Anyway, what is the std debian auth package? -- assuming this is the issue? Wm
Re: OT: IRC the ~
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 12:10:48AM +0300, Lehel Bernadt wrote: On 23-Sep-2000 William Jensen wrote: Is the ~ in front of your name in IRC due to the lack of auth installed? I cannot find identd anywhere with dpkg. I've tried dpkg -l|grep iden. When I had deb installed on another system I somehow picked up identd and I was not listed as ~ in name so that got me thinking. Anyway, what is the std debian auth package? -- assuming this is the issue? A standard ident daemon returns the owner of a specified connection. IRC servers use this to get your username (on your machine) when you connect to them. What they do if you don't have an identd installed is totally up to them -- I can't tell you that. My experience is that some refuse to let you on until you install auth or say you are not authorized to use the server. That is why I wanted to get it installed. Running a vanilla identd is a Bad Thing IMHO. It helps attackers identify usernames and find out under what UIDs daemons are running (eg. if sendmail is running as root). Is there a secure way of providing the information an IRC server wants, while rejecting the cracker's attempts? - $ apt-cache search --names-only identd pidentd-des - TCP/IP IDENT protocol server with DES support. oidentd - Replacement ident daemon midentd - identd replacement with masquerading support. pidentd - TCP/IP IDENT protocol server. - pidentd is the standard one -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
apt-get vim problem
Greetings, I've done a potato install on a new system. Changed my sources and then did an dist-upgrade which took quite a while. Problem is, the version of vim that is installed doesn't have any help with it, nor does it recognize any cmds like syntax on. Any ideas? Wm
[jensenb@bodach.com: apt-get vim problem]
vim version is 5.7.2 - Forwarded message from William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:49:19 -0500 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: apt-get vim problem User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i From: William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, I've done a potato install on a new system. Changed my sources and then did an dist-upgrade which took quite a while. Problem is, the version of vim that is installed doesn't have any help with it, nor does it recognize any cmds like syntax on. Any ideas? Wm -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message -
Re: apt-get vim problem
Perfect. Thanks. Any ideas why the package manager wouldn't include that in the regular download? Wm On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 04:59:44PM -0700, Tal Danzig wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:49:19 -0500, William Jensen said: : Greetings, : : I've done a potato install on a new system. Changed my sources and then did : an dist-upgrade which took quite a while. Problem is, the version of vim : that is installed doesn't have any help with it, nor does it recognize any : cmds like syntax on. Any ideas? : You probably need to install the vim-rt package I think this contains help as well as some of vim's 'extra' features like syntax highlighting. Tal : Wm -- -- | Tal Danzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux by Libranet| | Homepage: | The TOP Desktop Distribution | | http://www.muhri.net/~tal | http://www.libranet.com | -- A Friendly .sig!!! (TM) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
nit picky on out of the box setup
Debs, Is there a reason behind debian commenting out the following in a users initial default .bash_profile: #if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then #source ~/.bashrc # fi I always have to uncomment it so that my personal changes show up. Wm
Re: vim expandtab
I like my tabs to insert 3 spaces so I use: set softtabstop=3 Luck, Bill On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:36:12AM -0700, Parrish M Myers wrote: Hi, I installed vim on my potato box. It seems to be a great vi replacement. But, is there any way to make vim to insert spaces when the tab button is presses. I think I have to set the expandtab setting by the command: :set et But this doesn't seem to always work. Most notably when I use the command O or o. When I use these commands there is still an 8space tab that is inserted. Is there any way to get the tab repacement option to work all the time... I want it to act like nedit does with the emulate tab option. Thanks = --- Academia is a little like child | Parrish M. Myers rearing, it provides a chance at | The Wacked Jester immortality without the stretch | [EMAIL PROTECTED] marks -- (unknown source)| --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
off topic - scsi partitions swap raid
Hey scsi fans, I picked up a 18 gig drive. I was planning on doing 3 6 gig partitions and raid'n two of the partitions for linux. Question is what about the swap? Would I really need to do two 6 gig, 2 128 meg, then what's left for windows? This will be my first time for raid scsi under linux, is there a nice howto that covers both? Wm
Off Topic - putty, RH, debian, title changes upon login
Hi guys, I found this little bit of trivia interesting but I cannot figure out how it is happening. Under a friends RH box when I ssh into it from PuTTY it will change the titlebar to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /directory. That's very cool, however, when I ssh into my debian box it just puts up domain.com - PuTTY. Does anyone know why/how this is happening for the RH box or how I could enable this type of behavior for the Debian box? It's rather handy to have a short PS1 and have the full path that your in reflected in the titlebar. Regards, Bill pgpAD5luZVZiQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: this beeping makes me sick
xset b off I have that in my .xinitc and it works like a charm. - Forwarded message from Peter Malewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:06:29 +0200 From: Peter Malewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QBA [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: this beeping makes me sick User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 06:00:30PM +0200, QBA wrote: Hi, I just want to turn off beeping in linux. It comes from the inner speaker (not from my sound card and portable speakers) when I press arrow keys in vi (it's just an example) and the cursor can't go any further. How am I to do it? Thanks for help, xset -b ...I forgot the exact parameter , i think it was xset -b 0, look at the man page. Peter -- P.Malewski, Maschplatz 8, 38114 Braunschweig, Tel.: 0531 500965, MH-Hannover: 0511 532 3194 / Fax: 0511 532 3190, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message - pgpAlZ4QP6dL7.pgp Description: PGP signature
man dd -- broke
Hey guys, I just did a man dd and received: gzip: /var/cache/man/cat1/dd.1.gz: not in gzip format Manual page dd(1) line ?/? (END) I haven't done anything to the system. info dd works though. Any ideas what might cause this 'sudden' change? Wm pgpQ3rxtWbTQR.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: man dd -- broke]
Update, I deleted the cache version, redid man dd and it worked fine. Is this just a case of something being corrupted? - Forwarded message from William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:26:46 -0500 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: man dd -- broke User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i From: William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey guys, I just did a man dd and received: gzip: /var/cache/man/cat1/dd.1.gz: not in gzip format Manual page dd(1) line ?/? (END) I haven't done anything to the system. info dd works though. Any ideas what might cause this 'sudden' change? Wm - End forwarded message - pgpNNf9MC49J8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: help for new user
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 07:29:30PM +0200, Marc Maute wrote: hi I use Debian for my first time, i was an redhat user. and my question is how can I make that gnome starts automaticly when I start with startx? And what windowmanager musst i use? thanks for help -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null If you are not using gdm or xdm (x graphical logins) but actually type startx from the command line then edit your ~/.xinitrc. If it does not exist then create it and add the line gnome-session inside of it. This should launch a gnome session and enlightenment as your window manager. Hope this helps, Bill pgpJoVYaCbrqh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: can't install star office 5.2
I assume you chmod +x filename? so that it's executable? Bill On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 07:03:55PM -0500, Moses Backman III wrote: i downloaded the staroffice_5.2-xxx.bin file and i when i try to install it using the ./so-5.2-en.. command i get a permission denied warning. this happens if i su or log in as root as well as if i log in as the profile that downloaded the file. i've seen messages that it works can anyone tell me what i'm missing ( i am using debian 2.2 w/AMD k6/2 500 and a ton of RAM) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgph4KsbE3ewA.pgp Description: PGP signature
cleanly migrating from ide install to scsi system
Greetings, As some of you know I'm converting to a SCSI system this week when my hardware arrives. I've started giving a thought to what I need to backup, save, or generally have available to me offline so I can get my system back up and running in quick order. Then it occured to me it might be possible to avoid a reinstall completly and just ghost from the ide over to the scsi. Is it possible to: 1. boot the installation floppy 2. launch a shell 3. bit by bit copy everything from the ide drive over to the scsi 3. go into the scsi drive and mod lilo to point to it 4. install onto the mbr 5. reboot Is that possible? Or would I be better off just going to a new install? Regards, Wm pgpCRxjI2Ni5V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Off Topic: SCSI Recommendations?
Greetings Debians, It's time I do scsi. I've wanted to for as long as I can remember but I've always been a little chicken to dive into it. Well no more. I'd like some recommendations from those of you on this list that use scsi. Here is what I am thinking about so far... Card: Adaptec 2940U2W (with 2.4.0-test8 kernel) - linux.com claims support in 2.2x kernels so I assume 2.4 will also Now I've looked at the scsi section in menuconfig and I cannot find any reference to any 2940 cards though linux.com's articles say that kernel 2.2 you can use and compile the low-level drivers in. What am I missing here that i cannot find them? CD ROM/Burner A Plextor RW PX-W12432Ti/SW - a 12/4/32 (write/re-write/read) cdrom for burning cd's and general cdrom usage HardDrive 2 seagate ST39175LW barricudda's which are 9.1Gb ultra2 wide scsi 7200 rpm drives. I was figuring one for linux and one for windows (gotta game fellas). Any/all comments or suggestions to avoid gotcha's would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your time. My intent here is to jump into as much performance as I can reasonably afford. Regards, Bill pgpxELdPPOZKc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OffTopic: how do I add /dev/ttyS4 (com5)
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RE: (mutt gpg thread)
I did some experimenting with my .muttrc since a couple of people have reported they could not read my posts. My work (windows) outlook was the destination for my emails. When I had set pgp_create_traditional in my .muttrc and signed a message (no encrypt just sign) it came into the outlook as an attachment of msg.pgp with nothing else but that. Now, when I took out set pgp_create_ traditional and resent the same message (signed but not encrypted) it was received fine. I cannot remember who advocated using pgp_create_traditional but it evidently doesn't work if your signing and sending mail to a windows user or, from what another users sent me offline a 'older pine' also could not read it. Now, if I'm just mistaken or not understanding something about pgp_create_ traditional, could someone enlighten me? Thanks for the time... (this msg will not be using the pgp_create_traditional) Bill pgpVZzkesWz3y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: irc question from newbie
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 07:17:17PM +0200, QBA wrote: Hi, I totally green to irc client for console (I use BitchX) and need a little piece of advice. The problem is that I can't see list of all channels I can join. When I type in BitchX /list I get list of all channels but it is running through my screen so quickly that I'm not able to see anything. What am I to do about it? Thanks 4 help, QBA /list is going to show you all available irc channels that exist -- big list /channel is a command that will show you all the channels your on and all the people who are on each channel with you Regards, Wm -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgp7y5D31hoto.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: irc question from newbie
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 01:45:23PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 07:17:17PM +0200, QBA wrote: Hi, I totally green to irc client for console (I use BitchX) and need a little piece of advice. The problem is that I can't see list of all channels I can join. When I type in BitchX /list I get list of all channels but it is running through my screen so quickly that I'm not able to see anything. What am I to do about it? Thanks 4 help, QBA /list is going to show you all available irc channels that exist -- big list /channel is a command that will show you all the channels your on and all the people who are on each channel with you Regards, Wm Addendum... /list all --- shows ALL channels /list #channel shows channel name, users on that channe, topic Wm -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpvFl0k9J5GI.pgp Description: PGP signature
update to Re: freeware windoze client that will do ssh?
Just an update to the list. I've tried Tera Term and PuTTY. PuTTY does a very nice job on color handling whereas Tera Term was misinterpreting the color codes coming off linux. IRC was horrendous looking and for example ls /etc produced some very interesting looking screens of unreadable data. PuTTY on the other hand looks like it's supposed to. So anyone that might read this try PuTTY. - Forwarded message from John Ackermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To: William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: freeware windoze client that will do ssh? Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:14:14 -0400 From: John Ackermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], William Jensen writes: Any ideas? I've got ssh working from work to home, now just need to=20 get ftp set also. Wm I use TeraTerm with the ttssh module added by Robert O'Callahan. Check www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message - pgpOdsEjQTIXj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Offtopic: total newbie conceptual question
all this ssh and scp and firewalling work I've been doing has really gotten me the security bug so. is there any sort of wrapper/ssh/etc construt for IRC? For example if I'm typing away on my favorate channel can a sniffer pick that up and read it into a file unimpeded? Bill pgp0x8RAo2cAP.pgp Description: PGP signature
OffTopic: how do I add /dev/ttyS4 (com5)
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Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:43:30AM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote: -Original Message- From: John L . Fjellstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:43 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat [...] It just seems that every time there is a discussion of distribution, people are forgetting the fact that the distributions aren't that different. Maybe the software in the distributions is about the same, but the distros themselves sure aren't. A distro as I understand it is the effort to integrate linux software in a way that there seems to be a consistent OS. Some differences are, therefore: * installer * package management * file system policies This won't be an issue as soon as the FHS is widely adhered to. In the meantime, I really love it when my files are where I would expect them. * configuration Most config tools are specific to or at least developed by a distro company. Also: where is the network configured, how is init handled? * incuded software, and version thereof * support Support. OH yes support. The first time I set up RH (first linux ever) I naturally had some problems and questions. I bought the retail version so I had access to tech support from RH. The first mail I sent them was a how do you see colors in the directories when you do a ls type of mail. The reply came 13 days later and said (paraphrase) I am so and so and I will be your grade 3 support technician. What you asked about is already set up and is part of the standard distribution, if it isn't working for you then you changed something in your configuration and we are not responsible for that. And that was it. And there was NO color with ls. I did naturally find out about --color=auto but that was due to my looking not tech support. The second email I sent them was a X related question that said I can cycle thru all the resolutions from 640x480 up to 1600x1200 but X always starts in 640x480. How can I tell X to start at 1600x1200? Their answer was Our technical support only covers configuring X to 640x480. Since you reported that this already works we are not obligated to assist you any further. Yes that was the end of the mail. These examples happened to me the first time I ever installed RH linux (my first linux). I knew I'd have problems so I paid the money for tech support and you can see what I received. After that I've had a different outlook on RH. In my mind RH is the MS of Linux. They do not care about linux, they care about how much money they can bleed out of us before the fad is over. So if your work is going to insall RH because they offer true support think twice. I continued to run RH for a while because I did not know where else to go. I finally found the debian web site, read about the reasons debian exists, it's goals and beliefs and was dumbstruck. This distribution is what I was looking for. There is a widely held belief out there that debian is murder to install and you had best not install it until you know what your doing because it doesn't hand hold you like RH. I found that to be somewhat accurate. Naturally, the more experience you have with a subject the eaiser time you have applying that knowledge to other related areas (other distributions). So I stuck it out with RH until I thought I had a decent foundation of understanding. Then I switched to Debian and I've been vey happy since. One of the things that I appreciate the most is this list. I obviously still don't know everything. It is a huge boost to debian in my eyes that there are people like you guys out there that answer questions real-time. There is nothing worse than being almost there and just need one more tweak to get it right. You can send a note to the list and get a reply sometimes in a matter of 30 seconds. Now lately I've read a couple people saying this is supposed to be a list about straight debian problems. If that truly is the case and general questions belong elsewhere perhaps we could start a debian version of a general questions list. Those of you that aren't intersted in answering how do you get color in ls wouldn't need to sign up for the list, but those people that don't mind helping like that could and debian could have a dedicated newbie list help line? Just a thought. I know I would sign up for it just to be there for the next person that needs to know something that I've already tackled. Thanks for your time. Bill Note that this does not make any distro better than any other in an objective way, but definitly discernable. There is merit in searching for the product one's most comfortable with. All, of course, my humblest of opinions. [...] And, btw, if you want convince somebody of your position, it helps to have an open mind. Considering them illiterate sheep doesn't help your situation. If they don't feel that you respect them,
Re: Debian or Stormix
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 05:37:49PM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote: Ray Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have been using FreeBSD I would just get Debian and for the same money you would spend on Storm get a good Debian book. Storm hides to much to really learn from IMO. Maybe you could elucidate and tell us what exactly Storm Linux hides? I have used Debian through several versions and Storm Linux more recently. Storm adds a few features which make Linux easier for the beginner or someone who just prefers a GUI interface. It offers an easier install and adds a bit of gloss to Debian. It removes nothing of a standard Debian install - all the usual command line utilities are available. You could install Storm and pretend it was Debian and you would be none the wiser once you had removed the Storm icons from the stndard KDE or Gnome desktop. I appreciate that some Linux users prefer a more difficult install accompanied by a steep learning curve so if you are one of these you will not like Storm Linux ;-) An advantage of a steep learning curve is two-fold. Number one you get a nice confidence boost from the effort it took to learn something new and challenging. Second is you actually understand what the system is doing. For example, if the average RH user's linuxconf no longer worked, could they change their network from dhcp to static ip? Could they modify their init scripts? Would they even know where to look? This is why I've reconciled myself to doing it the 'right' way (imo) and learning the underpinings of the system instead of relying on tools. Linux makes me feel ignorant enough, there is no need to further it by blindly following a tool and not knowing what it's doing to your system. Now, on the other hand...if people simply do not care to learn the sytem and want to be 'up-and-running quick' then RH and their tools are good. Regards, Bill -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpM4GA0Ya4JH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: booting with lilo win2k
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:15:55PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and restored the MBR w/o problems. However I can't figure out how to multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager. Searching the web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way. Adding the following to lilo.conf: , | other = /dev/hda1 | label = win Here's my lilo with debian and win2k stimpy:/home/jensenb# cat /etc/lilo.conf (apply your information) lba32 boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hda2 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/System.map delay=0 vga=normal default=Linux image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0 label=Linux read-only other=/dev/hda3 -- notice hda3, make sure that yours points to the label=wincorrect partition..ie is win2k really on hda1? Regards, Bill ` doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message Cannot find NTBF. or some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del. Is there a clean solution to this problem? Will I have to reinstall Win2K since I hosed its MBR? Thanks for any pointers, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpDjRKfUuZH9.pgp Description: PGP signature
freeware windoze client that will do ssh?
Any ideas? I've got ssh working from work to home, now just need to get ftp set also. Wm pgp16662qQJOn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freeware windoze client that will do ssh?
My bad, I meant to say freeware windoze client that will do FTP with ssh On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:41:22PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 14:35:58 -0500, William Jensen wrote: Any ideas? Putty. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ HTH, Ray -- RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may not be a better one than the one the blocks live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpLMDiIUfcMQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
stale/defunt sessions in debian
Is the following a product of how debian sets up the system or is it a kernel deal or what... If I telnet to my home box remotely, then just kill the session instead of logging out it often leaves that connection up in my ps even though I know it's gone. Who cleans those types of things up? Is there anything that debian or linux in geneal does to clean stale things up? Bill pgpEBGHZM4qEj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: It Must be the Matrox G400
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 02:12:08PM -0500, Paul T. McNally wrote: I did a reinstall. The first time I installed potato, the mouse was all fd up, it sticks to the bottom of the screen and refuses to com up. I can see the tip of the pointer on the bottom edge of the screen. When that happened, I ran XF86Setup and changed a couple settings on the mouse and I think the meer using XF86Setup set the mouse right. Honestly I don't think it matttered what I picked in XF86Setup, as long as I was not too far off based. I've seen this type of mouse behavior before when gdm(?) is being run. If you check the archives just a couple weeks ago you will see a fair amount of usefull fixes for this situation. Now I'm a bit frustrated because XF86Setup won't even come up. I can manipulate the window menu system with key combinations from the keyboard, but when I choose XF86Setup, the hard drive grinds a little bit and then nothing. I started XF86Setup from the command line and I get X11TransSocket UNIX Conect:can't connect: errno=111 and I get the message unable to communicate with X server I'm using the svga X Server for my card. Maybe you need to run XF86Setup as root? The other really frustrating thing is when I bring up windows in XWindows, the top 1/4 to 1/3 of the window is above the top of my screen. I have not found anything to remedy this. Again, on the first install, I was able to run XF86Setup and it fixed this crap. Any help would be appreciated. Paul -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpwr1LmAIIlB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NEC 260 cdROM
If your very new, perhaps you do not know this is a list for debian gnu/linux. It sounds like your asking for windoze driver help. If that is the case I would recommend going to gateway's www site and downloading the cd-rom drivers from them. Alternatively you should have a rescue/windows install cdrom that came with your pc. These also will have your cd-rom drivers on it. If, however, you are looking for cdrom drivers for debian linux, they are available in the kernel as atapi cd-rom drivers. You can simply build them into the kernel or, since your fairly new, use a module to insmod them into action. -- at least I think so, for I always use the first option and compile my cdrom support into the kernel. Either way, good luck to you. On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:41:35PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am novice novice! Long strory. Problem I have a Gateway 2000 1995 model. I had to reformat to correct some missing files. I lost the Driver for the NEC 260 that is in my tower. Everything seems to be working but the CDROM. I found this while checking the Internet (only a few hours experience) I do not know if you can help, if not, sorry for the inconvenience. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpXh1zOXYlUQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
security of deb pkg's proftp and sftp
Can anyone shed any light upon the likely security risks I would run using proftpd vs sftp? From what I can tell sftp is for users only and it sets up an encrypted connection before any passwords/users names are sent. That's great, but how secure is this against hackers? Any different than proftpd? Bill pgpGgSu3PDcxf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get pkg held-back?
Indeed this was the case Bob. Thanks for the heads up. It wanted a jx-lib installed before it would upgrade code-crusader. Is this a common occurance that a package will say it's being held back because a 'new' dependency exists that didn't before in the previous edition? Regards, Bill On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 08:41:09PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: Try 'apt-get dist-upgrade' instead. The kept-back message probably relates to a new dependency. On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:48:39PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: Greetings, I did a apt-get update apt-get upgrade and saw the following: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back code-crusader 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Why would a package be kept back? Does this mean there is a new rev but the author hasn't quite finished putting the package up? -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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Re: Another Poll (Update)
Have a perl script to automatically do the vote button say a thousand time? heh On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 03:51:54PM -0500, Paul T. McNally wrote: on 9/7/00 11:45 AM, Brooks R. Robinson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, There is yet another Linux version poll at www.justlinux.com! Debian is sitting at 7%! Vote early and Vote often! I just voted. Debian is kicking ass at 33% followed by Slackware (my first encounter with Linux years ago) at 23%. Redhat is back in 3rd at 14%. http://www.justlinux.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
mutt gpg
Greetings, I've been looking into gpg and mutt. I read on the mutt faq to include gpg.rc with my muttrc. Thing is I don't know what they mean include? Does mutt accept #include like c++? As a previous note listed I added the set pgp_autosign in the .muttrc already. Bill pgpqM4SHids1S.pgp Description: PGP signature
