RE: Shopify help center

2024-05-06 Thread Mublex Kion
Hello store owner, how are you doing today, I am Mublex Kion, a shopify expert, I visited your store recently and I appreciate your effort towards setting up the store, However towards my analysis I can see that you have not implemented the latest strategy used by successful Shopify store owners

Re: Help to report a bug related to a usb3 lan adapter driver

2024-04-15 Thread Charles Curley
> For what I understood the problem was fixed in 6.8, but I'm using > debian 12 that will never use that so much new kernel I guess, could > you help me to report officially the bug so that the upstream channel > will correct it by the 6.1.0-22 version ? Bookwom backports has linux-ima

Help to report a bug related to a usb3 lan adapter driver

2024-04-15 Thread user7415 same
For what I understood the problem was fixed in 6.8, but I'm using debian 12 that will never use that so much new kernel I guess, could you help me to report officially the bug so that the upstream channel will correct it by the 6.1.0-22 version ? Thank you very much!

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-05 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-01, Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-04-01, DdB wrote: > >>> A computer with a 6-core processor, 64 GB memory, and 9 drive bays/ >>> ports that cannot boot USB?  That does not make sense. >> >> Why not? > > Perhaps because usb boot is available since a very long time > The OP informed

SOLVED (was: Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed)

2024-04-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.04.2024 um 18:52 schrieb David Christensen: > A bad USB flash drive would explain why you cannot boot the Debian > installer.  Please buy a good quality USB 3.0+ flash drive and try again. A friend of mine just let me use an external CD-Drive with the netboot image. This is already the

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-01 Thread David Christensen
On 4/1/24 03:10, DdB wrote: Am 01.04.2024 um 07:44 schrieb David Christensen: Please post a console session that identifies the ISO you are using, verifies the checksum, burns the ISO to a USB flash drive, and compares the ISO against the flash drive. Ok, in the meantime, i came to similar

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-01 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-04-01, DdB wrote: >> A computer with a 6-core processor, 64 GB memory, and 9 drive bays/ >> ports that cannot boot USB?  That does not make sense. > > Why not? Perhaps because usb boot is available since a very long time > *should* is the correct word. The board being over 10 years old,

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.04.2024 um 07:44 schrieb David Christensen: > > > A computer with a 6-core processor, 64 GB memory, and 9 drive bays/ > ports that cannot boot USB?  That does not make sense. Why not? > > > Please post a console session that identifies the ISO you are using, > verifies the checksum,

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread David Christensen
On 3/31/24 02:18, DdB wrote: Hello list, i intend to create a huge backup server from some oldish hardware. Hardware has been partly refurbished and offers 1 SSD + 8 HDD on a 6core Intel with 64 GB RAM. Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working from the SSD, which got lvm

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread David Wright
On Sun 31 Mar 2024 at 11:18:30 (+0200), DdB wrote: > Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working from the SSD, > which got lvm partitioning and is basically empty. As i have no working > CD drive nor can this old machine boot from USB, i put an ISO for > bookworm onto an lvm-LV.

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 31 Mar 2024 11:18 +0200, from debianl...@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de (DdB): > As i have no working > CD drive nor can this old machine boot from USB, i put an ISO for > bookworm onto an lvm-LV. Using grub, i can manually boot from that ISO > and see the first installer screens. But after

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread Felix Miata
DdB composed on 2024-03-31 11:18 (UTC+0200): > Suggestions are welcome :-) https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ All my installations use this NET method. What I usually do though is extract linux and initrd.gz from it or directly from the mirrors and load them with Grub rather than booting the

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 11:18:30AM +0200, DdB wrote: > Hello list, > > i intend to create a huge backup server from some oldish hardware. > Hardware has been partly refurbished and offers 1 SSD + 8 HDD on a 6core > Intel with 64 GB RAM. > Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working

help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread DdB
Hello list, i intend to create a huge backup server from some oldish hardware. Hardware has been partly refurbished and offers 1 SSD + 8 HDD on a 6core Intel with 64 GB RAM. Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working from the SSD, which got lvm partitioning and is basically empty.

Re: Problem with sleeping mode ( debian 12 ) please help

2024-03-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:09:34 +0100 Mansour Nasri wrote: Hello Mansour, >Hi I'm using debian 12 in Lenovo yoga legion core i5 12th-gen with >Nvidia {cut} You asked this, or a very similar question, on 29 Feb. You had two responses that I saw. I suggest you review those replies and respond

Problem with sleeping mode ( debian 12 ) please help

2024-03-05 Thread Mansour Nasri
are disabled )of course, the PC wake up but the screen is totally black nothing displayed on the screen, ( installed Nvidia drivers from the APT repo ) and is same problem. "on my old PC dell i7 10th ( no additional GPU ) i never had this kind of issue", please help to resolve this proble

Re: please, help to get the image write done, due to an error. Thank you!

2024-02-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
lled with version 12.4.1. Where did you get this image from? What exact errors is the image writer program reporting? Without that information it's very difficult to help you. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com < sladen> I actually stayed

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 25 Jan 2024 at 12:24:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 25 January 2024 09:03:36 am Anssi Saari wrote: > > On Tue 23 Jan 2024 at 06:32:54 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > > > On 1/23/24 06:12, Gremlin wrote: > > > > On 1/23/24 06:04, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > On 1/23/24

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-26 Thread Anssi Saari
"Roy J. Tellason, Sr." writes: > On Thursday 25 January 2024 09:03:36 am Anssi Saari wrote: >> Western Digital at least claims to have solved the leaking >> problem with helium and since they've been making those drives for over >> a decade, I think it's solved. > > Your source for this? The

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-25 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 25 January 2024 09:03:36 am Anssi Saari wrote: > Western Digital at least claims to have solved the leaking > problem with helium and since they've been making those drives for over > a decade, I think it's solved. Your source for this? -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest,

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-25 Thread Anssi Saari
gene heskett writes: > I carefully note, the use of Helium and its problems is very carefully > ignored. I suppose helium is not required for SMR drives and could be used in CMR drives too... Western Digital at least claims to have solved the leaking problem with helium and since they've been

Re: Powered USB hub [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help]

2024-01-25 Thread Anssi Saari
Max Nikulin writes: > Purchasing a powered USB hub, I made a mistake. I have not checked > compatibility with hubctl in advance. > https://github.com/mvp/uhubctl/ Wow, that's very cool. I wonder if there's anything similar for USB switches? I have one that's software controllable but it's not

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-24 Thread Karl Vogel
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 06:05:29AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/23/24 00:30, Karl Vogel wrote: > >>> On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: > > > > G> How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe? Very > > G> enticing and I do have the sheckel's. > > > >

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/24 22:48, Stefan Monnier wrote: some sort of 2T SSD's that comes as a usb-c drive, skipping the sata convertor entirely at $27/copy. If it works as an 8T lvm with a 2T holding AFAIK 2T for $27 doesn't exist yet in the current real world. You can find a fair number of creatively sized

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On 1/23/24 06:12, Gremlin wrote: On 1/23/24 06:04, gene heskett wrote: On 1/23/24 00:30, Karl Vogel wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: G> How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe?  Very G> enticing and I do have the sheckel's.

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-23 Thread Gremlin
On 1/23/24 06:04, gene heskett wrote: On 1/23/24 00:30, Karl Vogel wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: G> How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe?  Very G> enticing and I do have the sheckel's. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQJBSQL Seagate Desktop 8TB external

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On 1/23/24 02:31, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 19:55, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 21:59, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 18:44, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 18:46, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: How does an 8T backup server sound for another

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On 1/23/24 00:30, Karl Vogel wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: G> How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe? Very G> enticing and I do have the sheckel's. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQJBSQL Seagate Desktop 8TB external Hard Drive, 3.5 Inch, USB 3.0 STGY8000400

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/24 19:55, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 21:59, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 18:44, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 18:46, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe?  Very enticing and I do have

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: G> How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe? Very G> enticing and I do have the sheckel's. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQJBSQL Seagate Desktop 8TB external Hard Drive, 3.5 Inch, USB 3.0 STGY8000400 $168.18 What if you buy two, use

Re: Powered USB hub [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, needsyntax help]

2024-01-22 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/24 23:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 23/01/2024 10:55, gene heskett wrote: hub:

Powered USB hub [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help]

2024-01-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/01/2024 10:55, gene heskett wrote: hub: Purchasing a powered USB hub, I made a

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/24 21:59, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 18:44, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 18:46, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe?  Very enticing and I do have the sheckel's. What hardware? I

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> some sort of 2T SSD's that comes as a usb-c drive, skipping the sata > convertor entirely at $27/copy. If it works as an 8T lvm with a 2T holding AFAIK 2T for $27 doesn't exist yet in the current real world. You can find a fair number of creatively sized USB disks in that price range, but they

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/24 18:44, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 18:46, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe?  Very enticing and I do have the sheckel's. What hardware? I clicked on place order, for a 7 port powered usb3

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/24 18:46, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 12:54, David Christensen wrote: Perhaps it is time to switch to another backup system, or build your own. .. That I'm contemplating, using a pi clone but still running the amanda I just installed all

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 12:54, David Christensen wrote: Perhaps it is time to switch to another backup system, or build your own. .. That I'm contemplating, using a pi clone but still running the amanda I just installed all 3 debs of on a bananapi-m5. Okay. How

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> That I'm contemplating, using a pi clone but still running the amanda I just > installed all 3 debs of on a bananapi-m5. How does an 8T backup server > sound for another $200 in hdwe? Very enticing and I do have the sheckel's. I remember Amanda fondly from the days when I was backing up a

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/24 12:54, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 03:23, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 04:46, David Christensen wrote: It appears Amanda has a script API for both the client and the server: https://manpages.debian.org/buster/amanda-common/amanda-scripts.7.en.html ... All this is possible

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/24 03:23, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 04:46, David Christensen wrote: It appears Amanda has a script API for both the client and the server: https://manpages.debian.org/buster/amanda-common/amanda-scripts.7.en.html ... All this is possible David, but needs someone to do it. So far

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/24 04:46, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 21:42, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 18:29, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 14:48, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 16:13, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 01:33, David Christensen wrote: 3. 

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/21/24 21:42, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 18:29, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 14:48, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 16:13, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 01:33, David Christensen wrote: 3.  For Amanda, either add more HDD's to the

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-21 Thread gene heskett
On 1/21/24 18:29, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 14:48, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 16:13, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 01:33, David Christensen wrote: I am still uncertain if those are internal SSD errors or SATA errors. Please check if

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-21 Thread David Christensen
On 1/21/24 14:48, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 16:13, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 01:33, David Christensen wrote: I am still uncertain if those are internal SSD errors or SATA errors. Please check if you see matching errors in dmesg(1). There

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-21 Thread gene heskett
On 1/21/24 16:13, David Christensen wrote: On 1/21/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 01:33, David Christensen wrote: I am still uncertain if those are internal SSD errors or SATA errors. Please check if you see matching errors in dmesg(1). There aren't any. Those hours would very

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-21 Thread David Christensen
On 1/21/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/21/24 01:33, David Christensen wrote: I am still uncertain if those are internal SSD errors or SATA errors. Please check if you see matching errors in dmesg(1). There aren't any. Those hours would very closely correspond to my attempts to rsync and

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-21 Thread gene heskett
On 1/21/24 04:35, Max Nikulin wrote: On 21/01/2024 03:23, gene heskett wrote: Right now nothing in the system is north of 32C, might get to 36C at the end of a 9 minute build of something in OpenSCAD. I would say that 53°C and even 44°C is well above 36°C you expected: On 21/01/2024 12:48,

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-21 Thread gene heskett
On 1/21/24 01:33, David Christensen wrote: On 1/20/24 21:48, gene heskett wrote: New -x version for this SSD attached > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAGS    VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/01/2024 03:23, gene heskett wrote: Right now nothing in the system is north of 32C, might get to 36C at the end of a 9 minute build of something in OpenSCAD. I would say that 53°C and even 44°C is well above 36°C you expected: On 21/01/2024 12:48, gene heskett wrote: SCT Status

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-20 Thread David Christensen
On 1/20/24 21:48, gene heskett wrote: New -x version for this SSD attached > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGSVALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-20 Thread gene heskett
On 1/21/24 00:30, Max Nikulin wrote: On 21/01/2024 03:23, gene heskett wrote: On 1/20/24 10:24, Max Nikulin wrote: On 19/01/2024 06:10, gene heskett wrote: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032   071  

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-20 Thread Max Nikulin
ata recovery software may give you a recipe. A search engine should help to find it.

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-20 Thread gene heskett
On 1/20/24 10:24, Max Nikulin wrote: On 19/01/2024 06:10, gene heskett wrote: SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 179

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 19/01/2024 06:10, gene heskett wrote: SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 085 085 010

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread David Christensen
On 1/19/24 21:34, gene heskett wrote: On 1/19/24 20:29, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2024-01-19 19:09 (UTC-0500): On 1/19/24 15:56, David Christensen wrote: https://www.cablematters.com/pc-187-156-3-pack-straight-60-gbps-sata-iii-cable.aspx Cheap enough at 18", ordered 4

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread gene heskett
On 1/19/24 20:29, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2024-01-19 19:09 (UTC-0500): On 1/19/24 15:56, David Christensen wrote: No sign of that snipped stuff. https://www.cablematters.com/pc-187-156-3-pack-straight-60-gbps-sata-iii-cable.aspx Cheap enough at 18", ordered 4 packs

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2024-01-19 19:09 (UTC-0500): > On 1/19/24 15:56, David Christensen wrote: > No sign of that snipped stuff. > >> https://www.cablematters.com/pc-187-156-3-pack-straight-60-gbps-sata-iii-cable.aspx > Cheap enough at 18", ordered 4 packs of 3 for service & build stock, >

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread gene heskett
On 1/19/24 15:56, David Christensen wrote: No sign of that snipped stuff. https://www.cablematters.com/pc-187-156-3-pack-straight-60-gbps-sata-iii-cable.aspx Cheap enough at 18", ordered 4 packs of 3 for service & build stock, thanks David. I call that the "wiggle" test. So do I but

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread David Christensen
On 1/18/24 23:23, gene heskett wrote: On 1/19/24 00:55, David Christensen wrote: I am unclear if those errors are inside the SSD or if they are the SATA communications link between the SSD and the motherbaord or HBA port and/or main memory (?).  Does dmesg(1) show anything? I'm not sure what

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread David Christensen
On 1/19/24 00:03, Anssi Saari wrote: My only mdraid was on raw partitions but that never had any issues. I think zfs effectively does the same, no partitions. You can do it either way on ZFS. David

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-19 Thread Franco Martelli
On 19/01/24 at 20:14, Nicolas George wrote: Franco Martelli (12024-01-19): One case against using partitions on mdraid: if your array gets messed up, you get to recreate those partition tables yourself and that's just hilarious if you don't have a backup. Happened to a friend of mine, reason

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-19 Thread Nicolas George
Franco Martelli (12024-01-19): > > One case against using partitions on mdraid: if your array gets messed > > up, you get to recreate those partition tables yourself and that's just > > hilarious if you don't have a backup. Happened to a friend of mine, > > reason was a UPS brownout. > How can I

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-19 Thread Franco Martelli
On 19/01/24 at 09:03, Anssi Saari wrote: One case against using partitions on mdraid: if your array gets messed up, you get to recreate those partition tables yourself and that's just hilarious if you don't have a backup. Happened to a friend of mine, reason was a UPS brownout. How can I get a

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread gene heskett
On 1/19/24 04:50, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Anssi Saari It does seem strange to me, even in MS-DOS era I was able to set a terminal scrollback to 5000 lines without issue, when RAM was maybe 4 MB and a DOS terminal program probably had access to way less than that. I have no problems with

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread gene heskett
On 1/19/24 03:12, Anssi Saari wrote: gene heskett writes: The OOM death of the system was the xfce4 terminal apparently being set for unlimited scrollback and that was eating the memory. Switching to Konsole with has the ability to control the scrollback to 200 lines, and its taken all 32G's

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Anssi Saari > It does seem strange to me, even in MS-DOS era I was able to set a > terminal scrollback to 5000 lines without issue, when RAM was maybe 4 MB > and a DOS terminal program probably had access to way less than that. I have no problems with 130 xterms of 10,000 lines each. > So

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread Anssi Saari
gene heskett writes: > The OOM death of the system was the xfce4 terminal apparently being > set for unlimited scrollback and that was eating the memory. Switching > to Konsole with has the ability to control the scrollback to 200 > lines, and its taken all 32G's as .cache and 1536 1k blocks of

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-19 Thread Anssi Saari
Franco Martelli writes: > I don't know if it is a good idea, in fact it exists a special > partition type for RAID array listed in fdisk, I used that for my > RAID: One case against using partitions on mdraid: if your array gets messed up, you get to recreate those partition tables yourself and

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On 1/19/24 00:55, David Christensen wrote: On 1/18/24 15:10, gene heskett wrote: On 1/18/24 16:08, David Christensen wrote: On 1/18/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: I have issued a smartctl -tlong on all 4 drives, results in about 3 hours. A SMART long test should find and fix any read

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread David Christensen
On 1/18/24 15:10, gene heskett wrote: On 1/18/24 16:08, David Christensen wrote: On 1/18/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: I have issued a smartctl -tlong on all 4 drives, results in about 3 hours. A SMART long test should find and fix any read errors. Which has now been done on all 4 SSD. but

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jan 2024 at 00:57:07 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: > On 1/17/24 22:44, gene heskett wrote: > > One thing that bothers me is there is no way the installers parted > > shows partition names for non-raid disks. To me that is a serious > > bug. It appears from the h

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On 1/18/24 16:08, David Christensen wrote: On 1/18/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/18/24 03:57, David Christensen wrote: The old /home RAID10 still has its metadata on disk.  I would install the "mdadm" package, edit /etc/fstab, copy and rework the old /home line (new mount point, add

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread David Christensen
On 1/18/24 03:47, gene heskett wrote: On 1/18/24 03:57, David Christensen wrote: The old /home RAID10 still has its metadata on disk.  I would install the "mdadm" package, edit /etc/fstab, copy and rework the old /home line (new mount point, add option "ro"), create the mount point, and

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:28:30AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Sounds like this group has finally achieved a long overdue consensus. How > many times since LVM was ready for root/boot volumes have I been told that > using partitions was necessary good practice. Even had that in job >

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread Curt
On 2024-01-17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Curt wrote: >> I discovered a couple of discussions of the phenomenon, the upshot of which >> were: >> 1) That's what you get when you purchase cheap SSDs. >>

normally start new xterms [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help]

2024-01-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/01/2024 04:20, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I normally start new xterms by xterm -ls -geometry 80x24 -bg wheat -fg black -sl 1 +sb & Options may be put into ~/.Xresources xterm*vt100.saveLines: 1 xterm*VT100.background: wheat xterm*VT100.foreground: black ! etc Use xrdb to merge

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024, 9:35 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 1/17/24 19:54, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Andy Smith wrote: > ... > >> Then there will just be people going by taste. > >> > >> Personally I still put them directly on drives. If I ever get taken > >> out by one of those crappy

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey Andy. Andy Smith wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:53:43AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> I'm clearly a member of a third group of people,,, :-) > >Oh, I didn't mean to imply that those going by taste were in a >minority! Taste, or possibly, "just never thought about it" could >well be

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:53:43AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > I'm clearly a member of a third group of people,,, :-) Oh, I didn't mean to imply that those going by taste were in a minority! Taste, or possibly, "just never thought about it" could well be the biggest group. I was only

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread gene heskett
fresh install.  I prefer the latter, because I can estimate the effort and I am reasonably confident of the outcome. One thing that bothers me is there is no way the installers parted shows partition names for non-raid disks. To me that is a serious bug. It appears from the help that it can

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-18 Thread David Christensen
ause I can estimate the effort and I am reasonably confident of the outcome. One thing that bothers me is there is no way the installers parted shows partition names for non-raid disks. To me that is a serious bug. It appears from the help that it can LABEL a partition but can't read that

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, gene heskett wrote: > > where did the extra 19.4G's come from? Can filesystem > > ext4's overhead account for that? In an earlier mail: > > > command line: rsync -a --bwlimit=10m --fsync --progress /home/ > > > /mnt/homevol David Christensen wrote: > Please RTFM rsync(1) to choose your

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 21:10:28 -0500 gene heskett wrote: > gene@coyote:~/src/klipper-docs$ lsblk -d -o > NAME,MAJ:MIN,MODEL,SERIAL,WWN /dev/sd[hijkl] > NAME MAJ:MIN MODEL SERIAL WWN > sdh8:112 Gigastone SSD GSTD02TB230102 > sdi8:128 Gigastone SSD GST02TBG221146 > sdj

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
to do is convince it to not install orca and brltty. Probably by unplugging _all_ usb stuff except the keyboard and mouse buttons. What would solve many of my problems is a bit of help from someone who it running trinity to tell me how to install it on a system w/o any installed gui which obviously

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread David Christensen
d brltty. Probably by unplugging _all_ usb stuff except the keyboard and mouse buttons. What would solve many of my problems is a bit of help from someone who it running trinity to tell me how to install it on a system w/o any installed gui which obviously disables synaptic. That leaves apt, apt

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
already have a dvd with the most recent netinstall burnt. All I have to do is convince it to not install orca and brltty. Probably by unplugging _all_ usb stuff except the keyboard and mouse buttons. What would solve many of my problems is a bit of help from someone who it running trinity to

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread David Wright
On Wed 17 Jan 2024 at 15:34:09 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 1/17/24 12:27, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > David Christensen wrote: > > > I suspect the conflicting serial numbers are causing problems in the > > > kernel, > > > as indicated by the /dev/disk/by-id/* problems. > > > > That's not in

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/24 19:54, Steve McIntyre wrote: Andy Smith wrote: The newer set of people recommending partitions are mostly doing so because there's been a few incidents of "helpful" PC motherboards detecting on boot what they think is a corrupt GPT, and replacing it with a blank one, damaging the

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread David Christensen
On 1/17/24 15:58, gene heskett wrote: Now the question is how did it make this: homevol s/b very close to /home  in size but: root@coyote:~# df && free Filesystem  1K-blocks  Used  Available Use% Mounted on udev 16327704 0   16327704   0% /dev tmpfs

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
Andy Smith wrote: > >The newer set of people recommending partitions are mostly doing so >because there's been a few incidents of "helpful" PC motherboards >detecting on boot what they think is a corrupt GPT, and replacing it >with a blank one, damaging the RAID. This is a real thing that has

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
rror (via shell redirection). A related issue is that lots of standard output can slow a program. Minimizing a terminal can help.  Redirecting standard output to a file or to /dev/null can help, especially when done on the remote host while using ssh(1). The best solution is to tell rsync(1)

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread David Christensen
A related issue is that lots of standard output can slow a program. Minimizing a terminal can help. Redirecting standard output to a file or to /dev/null can help, especially when done on the remote host while using ssh(1). The best solution is to tell rsync(1) not to generate messages on standa

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/24 16:16, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i wrote: What did finally help ? Just the shorter terminal scroll back memory ? gene heskett wrote: That, and possibly the --bwlimit=10m, giving the SSD time to keep their stuff in one sock. Then i place my bet on the terminal alone. Linux

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > What did finally help ? Just the shorter terminal scroll back memory ? gene heskett wrote: > That, and possibly the --bwlimit=10m, giving the SSD time to keep their > stuff in one sock. Then i place my bet on the terminal alone. Linux is able to handle disk-to

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread David Christensen
On 1/17/24 09:31, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: I suspect the conflicting serial numbers are causing problems in the kernel, as indicated by the /dev/disk/by-id/* problems. That's not in the kernel but in udev/systemd's process of creating the symbolic links in

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
ine at the same time. Should not be a problem if labeled uniquely.  And that's easily affected by gparted. One of you made the remark that seems to be the secret password. What did finally help ? Just the shorter terminal scroll back memory ? That, and possibly the --bwlimit=10m, givi

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/24 12:27, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: I suspect the conflicting serial numbers are causing problems in the kernel, as indicated by the /dev/disk/by-id/* problems. That's not in the kernel but in udev/systemd's process of creating the symbolic links in

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/24 12:16, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Curt wrote: I discovered a couple of discussions of the phenomenon, the upshot of which were: 1) That's what you get when you purchase cheap SSDs. https://www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/s0rrpo/two_sata_ssds_with_identical_serial_numbers/ 2) SSDs

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/24 11:38, Curt wrote: On 2024-01-17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: This is just weird. I still have difficulties to believe that any disk manufacturer would hand out disks with colliding serial numbers. I googled for this phenomenon, but except two mails of Gene nothing similar popped up. I

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-17 Thread gene heskett
ot be a problem if labeled uniquely. And that's easily affected by gparted. One of you made the remark that seems to be the secret password. What did finally help ? Just the shorter terminal scroll back memory ? That, and possibly the --bwlimit=10m, giving the SSD time to keep their stuff in one so

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