Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?

I would just like to counter what Eyal Rosenberg says. Version number should be a marketing decision. But I agree with his points that marketing must consider that major innovations or missing features should be included with a major number change otherwise said number change will fall flat. The

Re: [libreoffice-design] Physics Based Animation Effect Presets - GSoC

Wow, that's awesome Sarper!! I'm going on vacations this week so I won't have time to check it but I'll definitely look into it when I'm back. :D On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 20:33, Sarper Akdemir wrote: > Hello design people of LibreOffice, > > I'm Sarper, a GSoC student this year that works on

Re: [libreoffice-design] Two-years plan

I fully agree with Andreas. It's necessary to define work methodology as much as targets. IMO, we should come up with targets for UI/UX that go beyond simply offering new UIs. I would define four topics where to work on: *1 - The Back-end, the tools that are used to make UI work. *In this case I

Re: [libreoffice-design] Next year's GSoC project

Is this solely about LibreOffice Design tasks? If not I would like to propose support for table features in Calc and/or adding native Remove Duplicates functionality. On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Heiko Tietze < heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hello, > > since we are quite

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-DEC-04 (WED)

* Tabbed UI (Writer): Division/section-per-tab (similar to Lotus WordPro) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33173 + thumbs-up or down for the idea from UX? About this Topic: Since in Calc there are the sheet tabs on the bottom, why not make something similar for Writer?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Branding for release 7

I would love to see the splash screen designed by Rizal being used. On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 9:07 AM Heiko Tietze < heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > time has come to consider required work for the next major release. For > the past version 5 and 6 we created a special

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-NOV-06

There's no vertical separators in W10 in inactive tabs... On Thu, Nov 7, 2019, 09:00 Heiko Tietze wrote: > The ticket is still open, I'm investigating the issue. On W10 we do have > vertical separators, on Linux it depends on the desktop environment and > theme. > > On 07.11.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-NOV-06

If I might give my feedback here about Calc sheet tabs: I think it was Andreas and someone else who changed it in 6.3? Even though one of the guys replying in the bug is rude, I would adjust the padding, but keep the new design. Also, add a visual vertical separator between inactive tabs. On Wed,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tip Of The Day

Ah! This is a genius idea. :D On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 5:57 PM Drew Jensen wrote: > Howdy, > > Great idea. > > So, I took a quick scan and noticed a type in tip 28. Fixed it in the pad > but can't get an editable view in NC with the direct link and couldn't find > it doing a quick scan through

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Feb-14

* Remove option to adjust icon size at the Notebookbar >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122799 >+ NB is not a replacement for standard toolbar and rather than having > customization > we/the community should provide different NB variants >+ agree (Franklin)

Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Feb-14

> * Remove option to adjust icon size at the Notebookbar >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122799 >+ NB is not a replacement for standard toolbar and rather than having > customization > we/the community should provide different NB variants >+ agree

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-Feb-06 (Wed)

t; Am Di., 12. Feb. 2019 um 10:58 Uhr schrieb Pedro Rosmaninho < > mota.pr...@gmail.com>: > >> These are the types of compatibility issues that really cripple LO >> adoption, even moreso than full file format compatibility. >> >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:57 AM P

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-Feb-06 (Wed)

These are the types of compatibility issues that really cripple LO adoption, even moreso than full file format compatibility. On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:57 AM Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > Well adding support for VBA would be nice, since it's not developed by > Microsoft anymore but they wont

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-Feb-06 (Wed)

Well adding support for VBA would be nice, since it's not developed by Microsoft anymore but they wont remove. So why not add support for it, even without removing LO's implementation? On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:35 AM Olivier Hallot < olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Hi Franklin > > Em

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-Feb-06 (Wed)

but was it ever considered to move from StarBasic to VBA? On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:42 AM Franklin Weng wrote: > On February 11, 2019 7:44:49 AM GMT+08:00, Pedro Rosmaninho < > mota.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >How do the macros in LO work? I thought they were Basic macros? What's &g

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-Feb-06 (Wed)

the scripting > >feature). > > > >On 10/02/2019 10:56, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > >> Just to mention that Microsoft Access (the equivalent to Base) is > >barely > >> used in the professional world. > >> Usually companies use Excel and connect it to MyS

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-Feb-06 (Wed)

Just to mention that Microsoft Access (the equivalent to Base) is barely used in the professional world. Usually companies use Excel and connect it to MySQL or apps like PowerBI depending on the purpose. On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 9:40 AM Heiko Tietze wrote: > While the idea of the Notebookbar is

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice on Android - a different path?

With the current push that Google has been giving to ChromeOS - including making it capable of running Android apps - it would be a good idea to have a direct port of the desktop version of LibreOffice in the Play Store since it could be used in Chromebooks. Chromebooks are personal computers and

Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar out of Experimental

> > Hopefully it will be in a good enough state for 6.2 final - but > there > is no real magic way to make developers come & get involved and fix the > shortcomings short of encouraging them when they show up, and > evangelizing to / mentoring them. > > Il giorno mar 6 nov 2018 alle o

Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar out of Experimental

are in great shape. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:43 PM Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > Please, this would be amazing. > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM kainz.a wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I know the notebookbar implementation has bugs but it's under development >> since around

Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar out of Experimental

Please, this would be amazing. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM kainz.a wrote: > Hi, > > I know the notebookbar implementation has bugs but it's under development > since around 4 years and on each release the news pages wrote about this > experimental feature. > > I talked at Munich Hackfest

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Oct-24

But I am all for using lines in zoomable plus mode, it makes the grid way more useful in deep zoom levels. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:21 AM Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > > >> * Grid lines >>+ blue color https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85450 >&

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Oct-24

> > * Grid lines >+ blue color https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85450 >+ dark grey https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117348 > + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/62025/ >+ use lines (zoomable plus) instead of dots >

Re: [libreoffice-design] In the drawing, the functions of "normal preset contact" and "magnify preset contact" are added.

Dear 和尚蟹, The purpose of the mailing list is not to do bug reports. If you wish to do so you can register and submit bugs and requests for enhancement at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/ . You'll probably get more devs to look at your bugs over there as well. All the best, Pedro On Thu, Oct

Re: [libreoffice-design] Zoom in grid

Yes please. I also complained about this and the horrible contrast of the grid. On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:40 AM 和尚蟹 wrote: > Because of the current grid, it is only a point to look at, so it will not > be > clear. If you zoom in on the grid, you will see it clearly. > > > > < >

Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2018/Sep/19

It would be nice, however it would be nicer if we could get some dev support to finish up the Notebookbar to take it out of experimental mode. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:20 PM V Stuart Foote wrote: > Forwarding response rcvd PM... > > > From: Miguel Mayol > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:34:45 +0200

Re: Notebookbar in LibreOffice 6.2 Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar status for LibreOffice 6.1

It appears Kshitij Pathania will try to keep working on the Notebookbar. We should keep incentivizing him so that he won't fade away. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:13 PM kainz.a wrote: > > Is it possible if someone implement first time wizard to choose interface? >> > > Or maybe at least an

Re: Notebookbar in LibreOffice 6.2 Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar status for LibreOffice 6.1

There are some things on the layout that need to be improved and do not require a dev. Some things that can be done with Glade. :) As for having a dev to work on bugfixing I completely agree with you. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:35 AM kainz.a wrote: > As long as there is no developer how will do

Re: Notebookbar in LibreOffice 6.2 Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar status for LibreOffice 6.1

And I would love to see the tabbed bar as the default in Windows... I think most skepticism against a Ribbon UI comes from Linux LO users so for those I would retain the classic toolbar. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:22 AM Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > We have to see if Kshitij has any inter

Re: Notebookbar in LibreOffice 6.2 Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar status for LibreOffice 6.1

We have to see if Kshitij has any interest in finishing the polishing of the Tabbed bar. And what about Szymon Klos, Andreas? Would he be available? As for the tabbed bar, there's still some improvements that I would like to suggest in the general layout. Minor things. And the other day I found a

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Sep-05

ed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:37 PM toki wrote: > On 2018-09-12 2:00 p.m., Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > > > It´s nice to vote to keep something in, but when that something is > constantly breaking > > Why is it constantly breaking? > > Part of it is that it relies on a site ope

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Sep-05

is magic to those who do not > understand it.-A variation on Clarke's Third Law > > Original message From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker < > jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net> Date: 9/11/18 12:22 PM > (GMT-06:00) To: "Роман К." <79045_79

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Sep-05

Agreed, I would kill Firefox personas. It works tremendously slow, and it's not very useful. Also most personas do not look good with shipped icons. It would be preferable to adequately offer a dark theme in every OS (Firefox is going to support W10 dark theme with version 63). At most offer 4 or

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2018-Aug-08

> * Styles & Formatting deck is overpopulated with styles >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69551 (and > tdf#118664) >+ bad generic statement, disagree with the idea of "too many" styles >+ what is a "good number of styles"?, what should to be dropped > exactly?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Banner for AMA and 6.1 release

That looks really nice. :D On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 8:30 AM Heiko Tietze wrote: > Sorry, lets try this one > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/xqy7L57DRPGpF2S > > On 02.08.2018 07:38, K-J LibreOffice wrote: > > Am 01.08.2018 um 23:53 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > >> So here is my proposal >

Re: [libreoffice-design] Guideline for floating widgets

Thanks for the clarification. Then I think your guidelines are excellent. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:44 AM Heiko Tietze wrote: > Floatiness of the sidebar is an evergreen and has been discussed several > times in the meeting. The sidebar has its own HIG. > > On 05.06.2018 11:38, Pedr

Re: [libreoffice-design] Guideline for floating widgets

I think the reasoning is well thought and laid out by Heiko. the resizability doesn't seem to be a big problem for me. Except if the floating widget looks extremely small in HiDpi displays? (can't test) Just one question though: where does the floating Sidebar fit into this? I tried to resize

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-May-30

It's a pity I wasn't present to make my case. :( On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:08 AM Heiko Tietze wrote: > On 31.05.2018 10:58, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > > * Gridlines on zoom > >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117348 > >+ diffe

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-May-30

* Gridlines on zoom >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117348 >+ different color (dark grey) (Pedro) > + available as option (see c15) (Regina) >+ adjust dot's distance depending on zoom factor (Heiko) >+ dots should remain a reasonable size and shift in

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the weekly meeting 2018-May-30

Aaaaw, I'm going to be on a train trip today (and mobile network reception will be crap)! I won't be able to defend my stance about changing the color of the grid in Impress. :( On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:27 PM Heiko Tietze wrote: > Hello all, > > some topics for tomorrow, more are welcome

Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar status for LibreOffice 6.1

t; > Another question is, should we announce an feature where no dev is working > on it? > > Cheers > Andreas > > 2018-05-30 12:15 GMT+02:00 Pedro Rosmaninho : > >> There's very few blocker bugs frankly. >> The main ones are: >> 1 - Media (Audio and Video) toolb

Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar status for LibreOffice 6.1

There's very few blocker bugs frankly. The main ones are: 1 - Media (Audio and Video) toolbar still doesn't have a Tabbedbar and Groupedbar eequivalent, 2 - Chart editing toolbar also doesn't have a Tabbedbar and Groupedbar equivalent (the commands that can be added to the Object editing

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for design meeting 2018-May-09

I would also add to the discussion what are the blocker bugs that are preventing removing the Notebookbar from being an experimental feature so that we can do a final push to have it as a full fledged feature. On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 10:50 AM Heiko Tietze wrote: > Hello

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Agenda for the design meeting 2018-Apr-25

It's confusing for new users that don't understand the concept of file extensions. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos < f...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > 2018-04-25 5:10 GMT-05:00 Regina Henschel : > > Please do not use OOXML for the Microsoft Versions

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Agenda for the design meeting 2018-Apr-25

I would keep the reference to 2007-2016. Many people do not look to the file extension and instead to the office version number. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Heiko Tietze wrote: > We have two late topics: > > * Update Office version in file format confirmation

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design meeting 2018-Apr-25

Yes, maybe. I replied in a hot-headed way. Fortunately Alex was a lot more reasonable than me. On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 11:43 PM, Franklin Weng <frank...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On 2018年4月25日 上午12:15:52 [台北], Pedro Rosmaninho <mota.pr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design meeting 2018-Apr-25

design guidelines) so if you are familiar with those icons you will probably manage to adapt reasonably well. On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Alex ARNAUD <alexarn...@hypra.fr> wrote: > Le 24/04/2018 à 18:15, Pedro Rosmaninho a écrit : > >> Sorry, but why should they expect to keep t

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design meeting 2018-Apr-25

Sorry, but why should they expect to keep the theme they know? Sometimes defaults change, and if people don't want their defaults to change they can keep on LTS versions. If they're updating from an old version of software to a new one it's likely that there will be changes, including in UI. If

[libreoffice-design] Chart Editing and Formatting behaviour in Calc and Impress UIs.

I just finished analysing the Editing and Formatting Toolbars behavior in the available UIs in Calc and Impress. I annotated bugs, inconsistencies in behavior, and improvement suggestions. Sorry for not filling bug reports yet but I'm a bit tired already this was a lot of stuff and I think it's

Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/28

Any sufficiently advanced technology is magic to those who do not > understand it.* > *-A variation on Clarke's Third Law* > > ---- Original message > From: Pedro Rosmaninho <mota.pr...@gmail.com> > Date: 3/29/18 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: V Stuart Foote <vstuart

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/28

It would be awesome to see the Notebookbar come out of experimental support for 6.1. IMO, that should be a priority. If supporting these multiple Notebookbar options is not a blocker to that, then I guess it's not bad to maintain them. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:49 PM, V Stuart Foote

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/28

To me it unites the best of the classic toolbars (access to drop down menus) and the best of the Ribbon UI. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Heiko Tietze <tietze.he...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 29.03.2018 18:02, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > > IMO, the Groupedbar should be the chose

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/28

ke (what does each > option do?). We are in a better position to at least determine what is > most useful most of the time. > > Jan > > Am 29.03.2018 um 15:36 schrieb Pedro Rosmaninho: > > Considering that the Notebookbar is maturing and reaching a maturity > point > >

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/28

Plus to keep up with the new Colibre icon set (what a great idea to use a colibri as the symbol) it would be really cool to have a Colibre Notebookbar to go with it in 6.1. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Pedro Rosmaninho <mota.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Considering that the No

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/28

3.2018 15:04, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > > Can I just ask one small thing that I have doubts on? > > Is there no "official" UI design team Notebookbar option? > > The contextual group variant has a foundation [1] but there is nothing > specific for the ot

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/28

Can I just ask one small thing that I have doubts on? Is there no "official" UI design team Notebookbar option? On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote: > Present: Thomas, Heiko > > * Colibre >+ controversially discussed on the patch; Colibre on Windows

Re: [libreoffice-design] Merged Toolbar/Notebookbar menu

UI Layout Standard Single Sidebar - separator - Contextual groups Contextual single Tabbed I like this solution. Maybe instead of calling it Single we could call it something else: I suggest Minimal or Simple. The rest of the names look good. How about the Groupedbar? Will it be

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Agenda for the design meeting 2018 Mar/21

I thought eventually LO would migrate to GTK3 so Glade would be used by default? On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 1:26 PM, kainz.a wrote: > Hi Pedro, > > thanks for the Notebookbar buglist. We have a GSOC Student how will work > on notebookbar so it's also my dream that notebookbar

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Agenda for the design meeting 2018 Mar/21

the most similar to Windows 10, but Colibre would be an improvement. > > > > I guess I am unfamiliar with how distributing it would work, but I would > assume making it available ASAP even if not in the LO build, but including > it in 6.1 may be a good idea. > > > > *From

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Agenda for the design meeting 2018 Mar/21

Well, I totally back Kainz. Even more so when he says he completed plenty of the icon sets and is providing support. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 9:58 PM, kainz.a wrote: > *Colibre backport for 6.0 to get a bigger audience* > +1 stuart > > backport the zip file for the icon theme

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design meeting 2018 Mar/21

But do the icon sets being offered interfere in any way or are a big burden to the install files of Libre Office? IMO, they're well hidden already, and only people that want to change them will look for them. Doesn't having them in the suite by default facilitate the job of maintainers in picking

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design meeting 2018 Mar/21

That Colibre icon set is gorgeous!! And it will fit perfectly in Windows 10. However, will it be the default icon set for Windows only? I don't think it suits any Linux distro. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Daniel A. Rodriguez < daniel.armando.rodrig...@gmail.com> wrote: > > * Default icon

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes of the design meeting 2018-Jan-31

Working on papercut bugs is somewhat crucial. If the user experience with each module of Libre Office demands that the user has to use work-arounds to get work done in LO then he will just use other officesuites where he won't face those same issues. Getting someone to fix those issues would be

[libreoffice-design] Notebookbar complete minor bugs

Hey guys, congrats on a great launch. I installed 6.0 and enabled the Notebookbar and changed to the Groupedbar Complete UI. It has some minor bugs: I have my notebook (resolution 1366x768) connected to a Full HD display using dual monitors. In Calc, the Groupedbar complete does not adjust

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12

Why don'tyou ask for help of the KDE guys to make a new colored Breeze theme? They've created a bunch of colored icons to use on desktop maybe LO could use something similar? Or ask them for help to change the icons to increase legibility so that it can be adopted as the default theme in Windows?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Notebookbar

So it's going to be introduced in 5.3 after all? I thought someone mentioned that it was going to be postponed because of bugs in bugzilla? https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101249 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062 On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:34 PM,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Home for the breeze icon theme

ilar could be presented to LO users at first boot. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Pedro Rosmaninho <mota.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: > ​Well, in that Welcome dialog I would probably just put some preset UI > options (simple toolbar, traditional toolbar, toolbar+Sidebar) along with > that. A

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Home for the breeze icon theme

06:51 PM, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > >> I thought it was possible to discriminate the Windows version to present >> a distinct icon set per version. >> > > I'm not sure if it is possible as i dont know how the installer works. > > Since Tango doesn't look native to

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Home for the breeze icon theme

2-f2d12117211d/screen800x500.jpeg > > Another problem is that Macs are primarily HiDPI and we dont have SVG > icons support in yet. > > Yousuf > > > On 08/01/2016 01:03 PM, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > >> This may be a bit off-topic, but couldn't the Breeze theme become the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Home for the breeze icon theme

This may be a bit off-topic, but couldn't the Breeze theme become the default theme in Windows 10? It fits a lot better with the design language of W10 than Tango (as KDE usually fits better with Windows than Gnome). And Breeze is already the default on MacOS... On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:04 PM,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey

I know this goes a bit against the philosophy usually followed by Libre Office, but if you held and released it only when it has a 1024 color palette it would have bigger impact because you would release something already much more polished and usable. The marketing team could then give more

Re: [libreoffice-design] Sidebar Survey

; On Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 12:34:35 CET Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > > Is the survey already running or will it still be launched? > Nope, still time to add ideas. > > > Anyway, I would just like to make a proposal for changing one aspect of > the > > behaviour of the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Sidebar Survey

Is the survey already running or will it still be launched? Anyway, I would just like to make a proposal for changing one aspect of the behaviour of the Sidebar and toolbar. Right now on LO 5.1 when a certain object like charts or pictures or symbols is selected there is a duplication of

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice 5.1 Announcement

I recommend to point out the following features: 1 - There is now support for cloud services with the Open/Save Remote Files in Google Drive, One Drive, Dropbox.(when there's reviews of LibreOffice on the web the reviewers always pick on this) - it would be a good way to say that LO now supports

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Michel, you can't complain that people are using links not posted in a tdf/libreoffice website and then talk about feedback in a blog of someone else. Why didn't that person provide feedback to the design mailing list for example? It's not the work of the people that work in UI/UX for LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers

Libre Office has design guidelines and you should stick to following those ones instead of basing your contributions in design guidelines from other software. On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Roland Spitzlinger wrote: > Hi Samuel, > > I love to get my hands dirty. Just

Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary

> > El 10-11-2015 12:41, Pedro Rosmaninho escribió: > > If you don't like it, fine. If other people prefer it and actually >> contribute based on their preferences then their opinion counts as much as >> your if you're a contributor. >> >> > Please we contr

Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary

If you don't like it, fine. If other people prefer it and actually contribute based on their preferences then their opinion counts as much as your if you're a contributor. On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Pedro Rosmaninho <mota.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I

Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary

> > > > I do not say otherwise. it is convenient to operate in a toolbar, not in > the sidebar, so I proposed a toolbar like google-docs. > >> >> ​To you. Other people find it more convenient to operate in the Sidebar. I give strong preference to the Sidebar because it uses space in my 16:9

Re: [libreoffice-design] Reviews of Libre Office focusing on the UI...

> > > > > of the functions of the formatting toolbar are present in the Sidebar. > > Maybe we could experiment removing the formatting toolbar by default? > > Whilst I am all in favour of abolishing the formatting bar, including > its complete and utter elimination from the sidebar, the issue I

[libreoffice-design] Reviews of Libre Office focusing on the UI...

Hey everyone, http://www.techrepublic.com/article/libreoffice-5-0-the-strongest-release-to-date/ http://www.alphr.com/libreoffice-5/1001401/libreoffice-5-review I just wanted to leave these reviews here because part of their reviews focus on the UI and that may be relevant to help steer the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving printing UX

The problem with using the OS print dialog is that some print may lack options that LO needs. I would stick with a LO print dialog. I even consider the current dialog more intuitive than MSO 07 dialog. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Katarina Behrens katarina.behr...@cib.de wrote: Hi * I've

Re: [libreoffice-design] HIG

Just added a bit of feedback to the Sidebar section... IMO, the Sidebar should offer module specific actions as well. It already does in Impress and Draw and Calc and Writer could benefit from that as well, by moving to a single toolbar view as Impress and Draw. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:58 PM,

Re: [libreoffice-design] feedback on #91781

Great reply. Thank you for the elaborate information. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Christophe Strobbe stro...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: Hi, On 10/06/2015 13:41, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: I guess it is controversial because there's a hostility of some LO users to allow direct formatting

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving Impress' UX

I think the issue is more a matter of ease of use and collaboration and it is quite well known that Google Docs is great in that regard. There's the design Hangouts minutes that document all the work done, and maybe at the end of each release cycle the documents produced during that release cycle

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving Impress' UX

Glad that you think so since that jewel has been thrown to my face multiple times including by LO developers and even members of the design group (although not recently). On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos f...@libreoffice.org wrote: 2015-06-10 8:29 GMT-05:00 Pedro

Re: [libreoffice-design] feedback on #91781

From a trainer and migration consultant perspective, I see the mess and grief and productivity loss, along with interoperability issues caused by direct formatting. ​I see your point, but there are other types of users for LO. And sabotaging their way of working in benefit of others isn't

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving Impress' UX

Well, if most of the most active contributors are fine with using Google Docs (or even considering it crucial for their organization) they should use the tools they consider the best for doing their job. If other people don't contribute then their input is worth less. If they don't want to rely

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Breeze Icons

The Breeze icons that represent each of the modules of Libre Office (Writer, Calc, Impress) should respect the Libre Office branding and identity for those modules. They are easily identifiable but they do not respect the LO identity and should be Breeze representations of the current LO icons and

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

Writer: - Implement Image crop tool similar to the one present in Impress, Sidebar: - Implement an Insert subcategory in the Properties tab of the Sidebar in Writer/Calc/Excel, - Implement a Data subcategory in the Properties tab of the Sidebar in Calc, General - Allow to use different shapes in

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

Will this involve new templates for Impress? Because Impress is severely lacking in the template department... Maybe we could send the call in e-mails to certain design groups involved with Linux to come with new templates (Numix, Mokka, Elementary, VDG...). On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jan

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

we could make the contest with categories for each module and not only Writer? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com wrote: Hi Pedro, Pedro Rosmaninho píše v Po 15. 12. 2014 v 11:47 +: Will this involve new templates for Impress? Because Impress

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Finding a Purpose

To make complex office tasks easy to everyone - concise, short and to the point. Love that Daniel! On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Daniel Hulse simplecontr...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I can think of that would be important to defining this purpose is audience. Who is LibreOffice for?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

And why not both? Get a forum for constant idea discussion, and for outside people to chip in, give their opinion and even atract new blood and use redmine to structure projects when these are decided to move forward. And not wanting to use an external ID as a reason is a really poor one. Don't

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

Agree with Stuart, waiting for devs to start the process would severely limit the work. Why not have the designers brainstorm and come up with creative solutions even if no dev is present at the beginning. It would allow for more creativity and cooperation between designers and even if something

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

+02:00 Pedro Rosmaninho mota.pr...@gmail.com: Agree with Stuart, waiting for devs to start the process would severely limit the work. Why not have the designers brainstorm and come up with creative solutions even if no dev is present at the beginning. There's no restriction on brainstorming

Re: [libreoffice-design] Finding a Purpose

I think that is a comendable effort but I think that it would be more effective to define what is the purpose of each module individually. What is it aimed at, so that UI design and dev work can be more focused in improving the work torwards that purpose for each module. Then also define a

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: The Sidebar Problem

After reading the last previous posts, especially the ones by Teo91 it's quite easy to recognize that indeed there's a lack of LO developer interest in coding UI improvements. Which is a shame since LO is one of the open-source projects with more involved devs. Nevertheless, I think that that

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: The Sidebar Problem

Did you even read my previous messages? I never suggested a massive UI or workflow change so don't go assuming that I did. Go read my messages here before please. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Sean White runicpala...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Teo91

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: The Sidebar Problem

The mock-ups posted by Evil Overlord are very nice. But if there's no real discussion or interest in this board to improve the LibreOffice UI then this won't change in the near future. And with the discussion mostly focusing on portraying the Sidebar as a problem instead of a potential way to

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