Re: [libreoffice-design] Terminology modifications to Paste Special format

2018-04-09 Thread Sophie
Hi Heiko, Le 07/04/2018 à 11:18, Heiko Tietze a écrit : > Okay, so let's go with the simple solution of just the format name without > further explanation. > > * Unformatted text -> Unformatted text > * Bitmap -> Bitmap Image (BMP) > * Drawing format -> %PRODUCTNAME drawing format > * DDE link -

[libreoffice-design] Re: Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Regina, great to see the outcome from the hackfest. Must have been a cool event. Removing special layers is a good idea, because, as you say, z-order and visibility are handled secretly. The only drawback that I see is when users have placed objects on this layers and it's not shown for old

[libreoffice-design] Re: Behavior on copying single drawing objects

2018-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 08.04.2018 15:20, Regina Henschel wrote: > > We plan to keep the layer of the objects, if copy&paste happens on the same > page, see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33170#c2 Doubt that an internal object identification by name is a good idea. You have to suppress identica

[libreoffice-design] Re: Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 08/04/2018 à 13:40, Regina Henschel a écrit : Hi Regina, > What do you think about this plan? > So what would happen if I create a technical drawing, and then number parts of that drawing using TextBoxes and arrows/freehand Bezier lines on a separate layer (that is called "Numbering" for t

Re: [libreoffice-design] Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, thank you for your thought so far. I have written a more detailed report on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2018/Make_drawing_layers_ODF_conform Perhaps that makes some things clearer. Notice that the report has a lot of "Ask UX" items. Do you prefer, that I wri

Re: [libreoffice-design] Behavior on copying single drawing objects

2018-04-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, I have only answered to list. Cor Nouws schrieb am 08.04.2018 um 17:55: Hi, Regina Henschel wrote on 08-04-18 15:20: on our work to make layers ODF conform, Armin and me decided to identify the layer to which an objects belong internally no longer by a numeric ID but by the layer name

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Behavior on copying single drawing objects

2018-04-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, I have only answered to list. Heiko Tietze schrieb am 09.04.2018 um 10:36: On 08.04.2018 15:20, Regina Henschel wrote: We plan to keep the layer of the objects, if copy&paste happens on the same page, see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33170#c2 Doubt that an int

Re: [libreoffice-design] Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, I have only written to the list. Cor Nouws schrieb am 08.04.2018 um 18:08: Regina Henschel wrote on 08-04-18 13:40: What do you think about this plan? I read no weird things, but I rarely work with layers. Would it make sense to try to get some real have layer-users involved? Or do y

[libreoffice-design] Re: Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, I have answered only to list. Heiko Tietze schrieb am 09.04.2018 um 10:09: Hi Regina, great to see the outcome from the hackfest. Must have been a cool event. Yes, sad that you could not attend. Removing special layers is a good idea, because, as you say, z-order and visibility ar

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, I have only answered to list. Alexander Thurgood schrieb am 09.04.2018 um 11:25: Le 08/04/2018 à 13:40, Regina Henschel a écrit : Hi Regina, What do you think about this plan? So what would happen if I create a technical drawing, and then number parts of that drawing using TextBox

Re: [libreoffice-design] Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 09.04.2018 14:58, Regina Henschel wrote: > I have written a more detailed report on > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2018/Make_drawing_layers_ODF_conform #2,3: Why do you want to have layers in master? Complicates things only for no good reason. #8: Discussion in extra th

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 09.04.2018 16:18, Regina Henschel wrote: >> What we could need after the change is a way to manipulate the z-order of >> (all) layers > Layers do not have a z-order, only objects have a z-order. Right, I always forget that. z-Order is/will have been only a topic for special layers and form co

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Behavior on copying single drawing objects

2018-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 09.04.2018 15:53, Regina Henschel wrote: > >  If the user copy/pastes a group, all objects are taken. > > That is the purpose of a group. But you can have this situation > Page 1 >   Layer "Foo" >    Shape_1 >    Shape_2 (contained in group1) >   Layer_Bar >    Shape_3 (contained in group1) >

Re: [libreoffice-design] Removing layer 'Control' and 'Dimension Lines'

2018-04-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, Heiko Tietze schrieb am 09.04.2018 um 16:48: On 09.04.2018 14:58, Regina Henschel wrote: I have written a more detailed report on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2018/Make_drawing_layers_ODF_conform #2,3: Why do you want to have layers in master? Complicates thing