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talk more and do little will also get counted and maybe we want to
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Hi!
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 04:24:25PM +0200, Zeeshan Ali Khattak wrote:
>> I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about
>> migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shut
ocus: Most of us have been wanting to move to a DVCS and
it's been a long time we've been justing wishing and sighing. Could we
please just execute the proposal I made?
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done your magic.
> Regarding not responding: I was a bit busy with other stuff (movie, DoS,
> SVN repos format stuff, etc), so it didn't make sense responding if I
> can't give an estimate. After that I forgot.
NP! I wasn't blaming you for that, was just explaining why i did
w
sily doable
using git but unfortunately the dates in the git repos created through
git-svn aren't correct (or it seems to be the case). I am no expert
in svn but reading the output of `svn help log` i don't see it be
done easily using svn. :(
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On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>
>> So you already on it or you are waiting for someone to get you th
>> list of svn accounts? If latter is the case, It's pretty easily doable
>> using
for such a big task. I hope I am wrong about
this and we do have enough resources to do the move but in case I am
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ing that we'll be
able to gather at least 10 volunteers and together we can do it, even
using our spare time.
In any case, after looking at the results of the survey we should
only look at hybrid/dual proposal like John's when we don't find any
way of moving to git in a reason
aid
operations such as status, diff and commit. In contrast a Git working
directory requires only one small index file that stores about 100
bytes of data per tracked file. On projects with a large number of
files this can be a substantial difference in the disk space required
per w
s in NEWS
file to do that in ChangeLog? A policy/rule? We could have the same
policy/rule for NEWS file.
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atch submitter provide the base minimum:
> - A patch that applies to trunk
> - A rich ChangeLog entry that describes what happens in the change
>
> Then why would I waste my time flipping through individual commit
> logs ?
Dude, we have moved to git and yo
ing it.
Reminds me of my friend who insists that evolution is nothing more
than hoax and when I try to educate him, he doesn't want to discuss
it. :) There are simply two facts to be kept in mind here:
1. All information in the ChangeLog is redundant.
2. Maintaining a ChangeLog only and only
or even data) that
is needed by more than one of your modules/packages, you either put
that common stuff in another module/package and make other packages
depend on this or you just bite the bullet and don't mind the
redundancy. In some cases you just have to wisely use th
ure
ok, will do
==IRC LOG END==
I am sending this mail here cause I thought it might be better to
have a discussion on this and so that other developers can speak-up if
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can point out any positive points of
"trailing whitespace", it only causes annoyance. Corrections to my
strong opinions always welcomed of course. :)
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than your opinions?
> I care about understanding a branch name.
> Deleting branches sounds really bad (aside from purely symbolical
> 'stable').
>
>> You can do stuff like:
>
> I don't understand Git.
If you haven't noticed, we are talking of *GIT* branches and tags
here. The discussion was actually about a rule on *GIT* pushes.
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> On 05/05/2009 05:59 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Behdad Esfahbod
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 05/05/2009 05:00 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>>
>>&
Hi,
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:13:07AM +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:33:59AM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> >>
.
>
> Citation needed here.
>
>> I would prefer to build on
>> upnp.
>
> UPNP is overly complicated for service discovery.
Actually that is pretty stright forward but it does something (not
so) stupid for that: HTTP over UDP. That issu
ces on a network but do no define any means for description[1],
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[1] We all know how useful D-Bus introspection with d-feet is, the
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ood to know and takes away my main reason to
distribute generated files in rygel release tarballs but what about
the bindings (ones bundled with vala)? They are still far from perfect
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Ivan Frade wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> FWIW, as the maintainer of a project (Rygel) which started as a UPnP
>> wrapper around Tracker an year and half ago, I d
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 28/10/09 23:23, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> I think assuming that a project has to be shipped by distros before it can
> be in GNOME or visa versa doesn't make sense.
>
> Distros ALWAYS ship what they want and
Having played with 0.7 APIs, I do not need any arguments to be
convinced that its 'better' than 0.6. :) The question remains if it's
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 13/11/09 17:21, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> So now that tracker is a blessed external dep of GN(u)OME, can
>> issues like these be fixed soon(ish):
>>
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.
Vala and C.
License: LGPL v2
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> 3.0 readiness: I think so! The only specific & relevant thing i find
> on ThreePointTwenty wiki is " GObject introspection".
Oops, I meant ThreePointZero plan wikipage. :)
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wrote:
> What is it?
>
> I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page:
> http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
pbor pointed out on IRC that I didn't really have a nice description
on the homepage so I
system-service, how does rygel then communicate to processes running
on session-bus (e.g tracker, rhythmbox, totem)?
Lastly, rygel can be run as both system-wide service and
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[1] Currently it&#
Hi Frederic!
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>
>> Adoption & GNOME-ness, community:
>
> We have pride in our incredible translation teams; it would be really
> nice if Rygel had the infrastructure in place to b
client as well and it all depends on the
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Rygel (in case of
> adoption), as more "desktop-oriented" mode of operation - or should
> gnome be neutral in that aspect?
>
> - What's the general approach for system-wide services in gnome? Does
> GNOME need that kind of policy?Some system-wide services
o the gvfs backend. No need to configure
> anything there.
Agreed! So I guess we both agree on getting rid of this UI mostly
and move the remaining parts to gnome-user-share UI. Now lets see if
Bastien agrees. :)
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Hi,
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
wrote:
>
> * Rygel is already readily available in two major distributions:
> Debian and Fedora.
Now it's also available in Ubuntu (lucid). Its also available in an
unofficial Gentoo repo: http://gpo.zugaina.org/
me and Bastien (based on Lennart's arguments on this thread)
agreed to kill the preferences UI in favor of some simple options to
be added to gnome-user-share dialog, do I still need to do this for my
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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>
>> > Heh, the logic should be reversed :-) It can't be approved (or likely to
>> > be approved) until the app is translatable.
>>
>> Since me and Bastien (ba
es instead (which
> could be powered by Tracker).
Actually this issue is partly solved. I made sure that tracker guys
have the right ontology ..metadata keys for this. However,
there is currently no UI for user to be able to mark media to be
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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 mars 2010, à 16:39 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
>> I didn't miss that. :) If you read carefully he said "just to be
>> safe" and hence it's not so important. Still, I tried to set
jct-introspection support for
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sign of the code.
Now if Tracker implemented the MediaServer spec I mentioned, I would
have just informed Tracker guys which API is slow and it would have
been upto them to optimize it. i-e I wouldn't have needed to even know
about optionals and property functions, let alone to change/redesig
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 mars 2010, à 16:39 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
>> I didn't miss that. :) If you read carefully he said "just to be
>> safe" and hence it's not so important. Still, I tried t
bs to share a namespace? If so, that could be bigger issue
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On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> wrote:
>> Talking of namespaces, is it correct that gir does not allow
>> multiple libs to share a namespace? If so, that could be bigger issue
>> th
to be mostly invisible to an end-user, I doubt rygel needs
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aving to expose the
existence of these plugins to user. Unless Tracker guys (promise to)
provide DLNA related options in their preferences UI?
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[2] http://live.gnome.org/Libgee
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ecision taking some time, sure but rygel depended
on these libs when it was proposed for inclusion so I was hoping that
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Hi,
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>
>> > Did you read http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirtyone/ExternalDependencies?
>>
>> I did but then again I've been reading a lot lately so things have
>> been s
the minimum version to 0.9.0 and recommended version to
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> While Rygel currently depends on (and is tested with) Vala 0.8.0,
> the minimum version of Vala on external deps wikipage[1] is 0.7.8 and
> recommended is 0.8.1. Moreover, Jürg tells me that its the 0.
so I'm
not sure about the status of the proposal. Same goes for the Vala bump
proposal I made separately.
If these things usually take such a long time, I don't think I'll
have any choice but to start doing most of the development on
gitorious clone and only sync to gnome git
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>
>> When I said that, I thought it takes a few days but seems that is
>> not the case. Its been like 10 days that I made this proposal, nobody
>> objected on the deps but no
Hi,
The new vala release contains some improvements to glib API that
breaks rygel's build so I would like to use vala 0.9.3 in the next
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Hi,
I realized later that this is a micro version bump and I can change
it myself so went and did that (jhbuild and wiki).
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
> On 15/07/10 01:18, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The new vala release contains some
:
http://lists.o-hand.com/gupnp/0915.html
http://lists.o-hand.com/gupnp/0975.html
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Hi Paul,
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Paul Cutler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We're still pretty light on content for the upcoming 2.32 release.
I just added some bullets off the top of my head about basic
features Rygel's inclusion will add to GNOME. I'm not very good at
this so please feel free to
ther than helping me out by putting the features I put-up on
the wiki that rygel adds to GNOME, in nice words for users.
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 15:00 +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
>> > Can you feel it in the air? It's that time when we start writing
&
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2010, 15:00 +0300 schrieb Zeeshan Ali
> (Khattak):
>> I tried my best to help you out in this regard while fixing all the
>> critical issues in rygel and the deps in time for GNOME 2.32. What do
ells me
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Hi everyone,
I hope nobody minds if I bump minimum gupnp-av and gupnp-vala dep
to 0.7.0 (for rygel)? This is an unreleased version but I'll not
commit the sin of depending on unreleased external library so don't
worry about that. :)
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ssue, and you depend there on external providers.
That does't mean we can't have the same service (application) handling both.
> Not that is not possible, but requires a second thought.
Sure, what doesn't? :)
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> that invite only, or something like that.
> And you keep this list open, to discuss things publicly as we have had it
> for years.
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On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Jens Georg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> rygel needs valac 0.11.6 since it fixes a codegen bug which leads to a
> crash in one of our plugins.
IIRC, micro version could be bumped without notification/request(?).
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[1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/Features/Sharing
[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648704
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625933
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648112
[3] gssdp, gupnp, gupnp-av, gupn
Hi again,
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> Hi all,
> Rygel is planned to included back into GNOME in 3.1 as part of the
> 'Sharing' feature[1]. GUPnP dependencies of Rygel has so far been used
> as blessed external dependencies. Since GUPnP
rget) but then this move of GUPnP process
started and I decided to wait on that so I don't end-up putting links
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igns for "Sharing" feature and it seems that none of them have any
time to do any designs for this any time soon. I'm just afraid that if
we wait on our designers, these features may not make it into 3.2
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ding. The rest should simply
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that would be to ask a few simple questions like:
* How often do you use terminal/console?
* How do you rate your computer skills from 1-10.
* etc
Also, most people are still on facebook so better advertise this on
facebook gnome3 page too.
Other than that, the questionare you came-up l
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 19:40 +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Felipe Contreras
>> wrote:
>> > It would be great if some sort of notification would popup directly on
>>
;t going to be useful
to us if you don't include such users in it as GNOME 3 is very much
targeted for this type of users. Before you ask, no I don't know how
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that? Would those results still be better than nothing in your
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Felipe Contreras
wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Felipe Contreras
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing is ever perfect, but having at least some results is b
e, must be shit" and will stay
away from it. Even if you don't do that, there is many others who will
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Luc Pionchon wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 03:34, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> Maybe they all lied?
>
> Don't you think it is a bit early to speculate on results? (...)
>
>
> Overall I can see alrea
Hi everyone,
David Zeuthen pointed out that gudev in jhbuild (3.2 modulesets) is
several years old (from 08-Dec-2004) and we really should use some
recent enough release of it. Is there a particular reason we are doing
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 13:23 +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> David Zeuthen pointed out that gudev in jhbuild (3.2 modulesets) is
>> several years old (from 08-Dec-2004)
>
> For the reco
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 01:34:36PM +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> Ah, sorry! My dyslexia kicks-in sometimes. However, thats still
>> pretty old so my question remains.
>
> We upgrade if needed. Keeping the requ
cation. Where as in overview
mode, she/he just
types a few letters of either the name of the command or the generic
name. For example, typing 'mus' in the overview-mode brings-up
rhythmbox as the only option.
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ost (if not all) of this 'conflict' is limited to UI only.
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[1] https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Boxes
[2] Since many components of UI are common with Documents, I intend to
re-use/steal code from there.
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y with more
important features in 3.1 so they didn't get any time for this one.
Lapo has started to investigate this it seems and last I asked
Bastien, he was also interested(?) in getting this done in 3.3 cycle.
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it doing any harm to their
computers. Users will definitely appreciate an easy and completely
secure way to try out OSs.
I think these features are very essential and therefore should be
available in every GNOME installation out of the box.
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Boxes going to be a 'preview' feature in 3.4 like Documents was in 3.2?
Release team? everyone?
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on, we won't have this working
out of the box and bore the users by showing them files on the media.
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Andrew Cowie
> wrote:
>> We're getting *ransacked* out there in discussions in LUGs around the
>> world (e.g. [1]) because power users are trying GNOME 3 have found it
>>
these days and it gets more and more
stable all the time. The issue is the bindings usually. There are way
too many of the libraries to take care of and on top of that they
change all the time. Ideally each library should be providing vala
bindings and take care of keeping it up2date. So its really n
ed to allow nested namespaces.
While it is true that ideal scenerio would be for Vala to simply use
gir/typelib but gir is missing features supported by vala and its
bindings for many years now. Nested namespace is one of them. Another
example is default values for parameters.
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> 2012/1/21 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
>>
>> Being a maintainer of 2 vala projects in GNOME, I can tell you that
>> valac itself is pretty stable these days and it gets more and more
>> stable all the time. The is
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> hi Zeeshan;
Hi Emmanuele,
> On 23 January 2012 02:14, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>>> 2012/1/21 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
>
>>>> There ar
a, git, mailing-list etc).
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not tag it by GNOME releases.
Release tarball available at:
http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-boxes-nonfree/0.0/
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[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671251
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