back to XSP.
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that Cocoon would benefit from?
Of course, there is, and I don't think I'm mistaken if I try to
interpret the interest of the whole community here.
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Il giorno 10/ago/04, alle 16:32, Sylvain Wallez ha scritto:
So my personal answer is no. Other people here may have a different
opinion though.
Then please disregard the closing sentence in my previous message ;-)
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Il giorno 09/ago/04, alle 10:06, Antonio Gallardo ha scritto:
I am back in my job of updating libs. I want to know if is desired to
update libs in the 2.1.6 version too.
+1 but please make sure that all tests succeed afterwards.
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Sylvain Wallez wrote:
- Cocoon version 2.1.5 released in May: bugfix release with minor new
features
Aren't we at 2.1.5.1?
- PMC composition change: new chair, some new members and some
resignations.
I assume my (and Tony's) request to join the PMC was accepted, but I got
no formal notice. Is
Il giorno 09/ago/04, alle 16:53, Sylvain Wallez ha scritto:
Well, you just have to subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The board was
notified about you and Tony joining the PMC on june 13th.
Who do I send mail to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't seem to work.
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Il giorno 09/ago/04, alle 18:03, Gianugo Rabellino ha scritto:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 17:54:05 +0200, Ugo Cei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Il giorno 09/ago/04, alle 16:53, Sylvain Wallez ha scritto:
Well, you just have to subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The board was
notified about you and Tony joining
For those Mac OS X users that - just like me - cannot yet get Subclipse
to work, you might be glad to know that the newest version of Apple's
XCode (1.5) supports Subversion.
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better next friday. I was able to contribute some
of my time, since I was on vacation but at home.
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it pretty.
If you want to check it out:
svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/branches/butterfly/
ant
./butterfly.sh servlet
surf to http://localhost:/index.html
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Il giorno 02/ago/04, alle 09:19, Carsten Ziegeler ha scritto:
But I think we shouldn't forget about 2.1.6; merging all the nice
bug fixes we already have in 2.2 into 2.1.x is imho currently
as important.
We could dedicate the next FirstFriday (Aug. 6th) to it. WDYT?
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or into
Cocoon core.
+1
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. What would be the difference between scratchpad and
whiteboard?
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to host there instead of my own CVS server.
Why can't you just upgrade the current linotype block?
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tomorrow, I'll be on vacation for
one week, but fully connected, so I hope to find the time and the
clarity of mind to come up with something less dumb and simpleminded.
Stay tuned!
Ugo
[1] http://www.artima.com/intv/tracer.html
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Il giorno 28/lug/04, alle 00:45, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
Ugo Cei wrote:
(you can find it in Butterfly's CVS)
the SVN repository has been setup. It would be nice to have that
development over on SVN since we could see what's going on ;-)
I just finished reading the Subversion book, but have
users far too
many options and rope to hang themselves with, and how to avoid it.
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-versa.
4) Embed Groovy scripts in an XML sitemap
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Il giorno 28/lug/04, alle 09:56, Vilya Harvey ha scritto:
Interesting idea. Just out of curiosity, why Groovy and not JavaScript?
I wrote it in my RT, because it's trendy ;-)
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is the best way forward.
I hope time will tell :-).
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;)
My aim, when proposing Butterfly, is to move towards an architecture
that is so loosely coupled and portable that it would be equally easy
to port Cocoon from {insert random container here} to {insert different
random container here} as it was for the Jetspeed folks.
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Il giorno 28/lug/04, alle 12:59, Vilya Harvey ha scritto:
Ugo Cei wrote:
Il giorno 28/lug/04, alle 09:56, Vilya Harvey ha scritto:
Interesting idea. Just out of curiosity, why Groovy and not
JavaScript?
I wrote it in my RT, because it's trendy ;-)
Fair enough. :-) Do you intend to use Groovy
syntax (snide comments about pointy brackets aside) and I don't think
Cocoon users (i.e. people who should know XML well) should be scared by
it.
It's the implementation that is bugging me: 74 classes are not a small
package. Can we do it with less? I hope so.
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that is a little less dumb and half-baked than the current one. For
now, thanks for your precious feedback.
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Here:
http://http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/branches/butterfly/
Have fun,
Ugo
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Colin Paul Adams wrote:
pattern name=xhtml^.*application/xhtml\+xml.*$/pattern
Wouldn't
pattern name=xhtmlapplication/xhtml\+xml/pattern
have the same effect? I think it should.
This I think is useful. How can I contribute it to Cocoon (I've only
written the java class - I don't know
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Ugo It would be nice if you could provide unit tests for the
Ugo selector, too :-).
Well, you'll have to tell me what this involves.
Take inspiration from
src/test/org/apache/cocoon/selection/HeaderSelectorTestCase.java for
instance.
Ugo
plain HeaderSelector is a bit tedious.
Of course. But the regexp application/xhtml\+xml should match
everything that ^.*application/xhtml\+xml.*$ matches, unless
something is escaping me. The former is simpler and has the same
effect.
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Il giorno 24/lug/04, alle 19:17, Jean-Claude Moissinac ha scritto:
I get the message
file org\apache\excalibur\source\SourceResolver.class not found
Where is this class? Which jar? Which directory?
lib/core/excalibur-sourceresolve-1.1.jar
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Il giorno 24/lug/04, alle 21:00, Brian McCallister ha scritto:
I love mocks, but they do force you to decouple.
Isn't this supposed to be a good thing, or there are hidden costs?
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of Demeter.
Does this make any sense?
In theory, yes, I can follow you. But I have too little experience with
mocks (and unit testing in general) to be able to appreciate the finer
points. Anyway, thanks.
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small-scale here and
now.
OK, as a *temporary* solution while I get myself up-to-date on SVN, I
have setup a repository on my machine. If anybody wants CVS access
(over ssh only) drop me a line stating desired username and password
and I'll arange it ASAP.
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Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Hi All,
Next step in CVS to SVN migration is locking down CVS and doing real
conversion into SVN. I propose to lock down CVS today evening (say, 4pm
on US east coast). How is everybody with this decision?
Vadim
+1
Ugo
, or
maybe a third alternative.
Thanks in Advance,
Ugo
[1] http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/mocksArentStubs.html
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Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 01:18, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
Ugo Cei wrote:
Agreed, but even if we cannot prove that code is correct with unit
tests alone, we can at least hope that - statistically - code that
has 100% test coverage will have less bugs than code that has 10%
test coverage
/Nano,
Hivemind or Kernel without changes, we can take some time to rehash all
the alternatives and decide which one is best. In the meantime, let's
fscking do something ;-).
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-based
injection as opposed to constructor-based).
Really, I'm +1 on pushing the platform forward, whichever direction it
is. Its the progress that's important :)
-pete
Yeah!
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only in
legacy mode) is the sitemap syntax. I'm fed up with pointy brackets,
can't we have less clutter? ;-)
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me to wait
until August.
Or would it be better to create a new module in the Apache CVS?
I'd rather avoid SF, I've had unpleasant experiences in the past.
What about a mailing list?
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of the framework.
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own container, as
long as someone starts really doing something and we don't find that
six months from now we are still at the gate.
I'll try to reword the manifesto to cover the possibility of building
our own container, as long as it adheres to some basic design
principles.
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the discussion on this list, as Marc suggested.
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of the spectrum.
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and making our needs known there?
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might need some
enhancements in Spring to support our needs, particularly if we want to
implement Real Blocks (1) soon.
Ugo
1) http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GT2003RealBlocks
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receiving standard bounce
550-messages. This host does not accept mail from domains whose servers
550-refuse bounces.
550 Sender verify failed
Giving up on 66.35.250.206.
Anyone else having this problem?
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, if you want to help.
I think the idea is excelent. We need to polish it before start or not?
I have already started. There's some code attached to the wiki page for
your pleasure, but nothing that cannot be completely redone if it's not
good enough.
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Oxygen to offer in relation to Subversion?
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
There were some mentions in the past, that a VSC can contain any sitemap
component, so even actions, matchers and selectors are allowed in
the definition of the VSC.
So, first question is: do we want this?
(I would say: no)
I am inclined to agree with you, even if I didn't
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
But when I try the various mirrors at
http://excalibur.apache.org/download.cgi,
none of them seem to have the source to the excalibur-sourceresolve
product (or anything else, it seems).
Can anyone suggest anything, please?
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Ugo == Ugo Cei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ugo Colin Paul Adams wrote:
But when I try the various mirrors at
http://excalibur.apache.org/download.cgi, none of them seem to
have the source to the excalibur-sourceresolve product (or
anything else
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
The point is the wiring: in cocoon.xconf, you only declare components,
now how they should be wired together (this is handled by
manager.lookup()). Declaring the full wiring leads to a bigger
configuration and the knowledge of what wires need to be set up.
You remove the
/gmane.comp.java.springframework.devel/5052
[2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10800483371r=1w=2
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is just at version 1.0.2 and is pretty young but
growing fast. I have hope that some shortcomings will be addressed in
future versions.
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a place on my todo list (which unfortunately
does not garantee anything :-()
I wasn't certainly expecting anything guaranteed, but having had no
reply at all I was starting to think my message had been overlooked
because everyone was on vacation ;-).
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Colin Paul Adams wrote:
So after all that, if I were to provide patches that:
a) Remove the offending global parameter from the two stylesheets,
+ 1
b) add a global parameter to the driver stylesheet
c) Add code to all the stylesheets to read either html or xhtml input,
and write output as html or
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
xhtml elements are in a namespace - html elements are not.
Oh yes. Then I'd rather have the CForms stylesheet output XHTML by
default. If someone wants HTML output, he/she can always add a
namespace-stripping transformation and use the HTML serializer afterwards.
Ugo
obvious?
Ugo
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[ ] do not keep sources
[X] keep sources as separate zip files
[ ] keep sources in jar files
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with the necessary expertise and free time look
after it.
WDYT?
Ugo
P.S.: personally, I'm not that interested in JMS per se, but what I
read about Streamlets [2] has tickled my curiosity. Sounds cool,
doesn't it?
[1] http://activemq.codehaus.org/
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try to
clone the Web frontend distributed by Day at http://jsr170tools.day.com
or some part of it.
Thoughts? Questions? Volunteers?
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Il giorno 24/giu/04, alle 16:37, Ugo Cei ha scritto:
Then I thought about doing a Generator that could stream the XML
representation of a JCR repo provided by the API. Should be a piece of
cake as there's a method that streams it to a ContentHandler.
It *would* be a piece of cake if those
to writable sources, or did
I misunderstood?
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Il giorno 21/giu/04, alle 05:23, Antonio Gallardo ha scritto:
Can we switch to the usage of commons-validator instead of developing
our
own code?
Without having ever looked at CV, I feel this could be a good thing.
Ugo
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somewhere. Cocoondev.org would be ideal, but we have to wait until
August due to migration issues. In the meantime, sf.net or java.net
should do.
Ugo
[1] http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SpringPetstore
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Il giorno 18/giu/04, alle 10:21, Bertrand Delacretaz ha scritto:
Question is (assuming people are ok with a new block), how to name
this new block?
forumvote? interactive? visitors? coconuke?
I kinda like coconuke.
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Sylvain Wallez wrote:
- [+1] to remove restrictions on existing objects.
- [+0] to add cocoon.avalonContext.
the final release and stop downloading 80+
Megs every week or two. That is, unless RC2 is so much better than RC1.
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
1. What should Cocoon offer to support log4j? So, everyone
out there who wants to use/is using log4j with Cocoon, what
are you missing? Examples could be, a support for configuring
log4j via Cocoon etc.
A simple way to fix this [1] problem.
2. Should we make log4j (with the
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Hi all,
Tony expressed the desire to be part of the Cocoon PMC. In order to
avoid numerous requests to the board, are there other committers not
already in the PMC that would like to join it?
Me too ;-).
Ugo
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Over at Forrest, an upgrade to Cocoon 2.1.5 has brought us with these
issues... ideas?
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
Hi,
I am nearly there, I have got a couple of issues, both related to JCS:
First, there is a lot of output like this one:
=
[INFO]
Il giorno 04/giu/04, alle 09:07, Ugo Cei ha scritto:
I think it depends on log4j not being configured. We should ship with
a proper log4j config, as all those messages from JCS and other
libraries that use log4j, like Quartz, are really bothersome.
I tried to fix this by providing a default
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
So I propose to remove this feature, and have automatic sitemap reload
always be turned on, as everywhere else.
WDYT?
+1
Ugo
Andrew Savory wrote:
Here is my +1 for Sylvain. Please vote!
+1 for Sylvain too.
Ugo
Upayavira wrote:
Switching to Jetty was the best thing we did - Tomcat fell over all the
time. Jetty has just stayed up.
I find Tomcat 5 to be infinitely more stable and performant than Tomcat
4, so I can live with that for the moment.
If you ever decide to switch, let me know and I'll send you
a stacktrace or send anything
to the client. Actually, I'd rather wish Tomcat crashed in this
circumstance, so we might at least restart it automatically.
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
what if I'm using jetty?
I don't know. We're currently using the bundled Jetty for development
and Tomcat for staging/production. But my point still remains: it's
better to crash and burn rather than try to survive if you get an
OOMException.
Ugo
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
Oh, on a side note, Ugo, I'd seriously switch your
development/production environments... I'm not going into performance
details (I don't want to raise a can of worms), but at least on my tests
Tomcat is using 3x the memory that Jetty is using per single request, so
it's
Marco Rolappe wrote:
why depend explicitly on log4j instead of using commons-logging? AFAIK when
log4j is available commons-logging automatically uses it before falling back
to JDK logger etc.
Personally, I have nothing against commons-logging, but please consider
also this [1] and draw your own
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
- Drop that Excalibur datasource. Components that need a DS should get
one provided by the container via JNDI. If we don't have a container
(running via the CLI, for instance), let the environment provide one
and bind it to a JNDI namespace.
Mmmhh... defining the JNDI
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
map:components
datasources
jdbc name=local-ds
urljdbc:blah/url
/jdbc
/datasources
/map:components
Ouch! I had this need one and a half year ago [1] and couldn't satisfy
it. Don't remember what I did and why it didn't work, and now that I
have a solution, I
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
map:components
datasources
jdbc name=local-ds
urljdbc:blah/url
/jdbc
/datasources
/map:components
Ouch! I had this need one and a half year ago [1] and couldn't satisfy
it. Don't remember what I did and why it didn't work, and now that I
have a solution,
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
I was just looking in the VM spec if a increment operation on an integer
is atomic or not. My opinion it has to be in the case of class members
as the increment is surrounded by getfield/putfield instructions.
Accessing an int is atomic. Accessing a long is not. This is all
Ugo Cei wrote:
I don't think it is necessary, and could hurt performance, but before I
try to dig up some other reference, I'd like to know if we're talking
about the same scenario.
OK, turns out my memory is getting worse each day. I was wrong,
incrementing an int is most certainly
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Agree for *variables*. Here, we have a class member, which has to be
loaded, then incremented, then stored.
So as Bertrand, I stay on the safe side and synchronize.
Just to be clear, what you're suggesting is to do:
public class MyClass {
private int counter;
public
a container
(running via the CLI, for instance), let the environment provide one
and bind it to a JNDI namespace.
- Write more tests (you knew this one was coming ;-) ).
Fire at will,
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Antonio Gallardo wrote:
I propose to move Cocoon to Maven. Please VOTE:
-1
I'm with Howard [1] and Hani [2] on this matter. Again, Less is more
and we certainly don't need the (mostly) useless drivel that passes for
Project reports in maven-generated sites. Trimming the fat by having
the build
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
I seriously think (I can't see it but can definitely smell it) that it
happens because one of those handlers (somehow) gets recycled, and it's
reused before it's actually fully disposed...
So, I _seriously_ think that by fixing the problem adding the
appropriate
there's a problem here, we can label 2.2 the first version
that comes with BerkeleyDB.
Have you read the license? Do you think it is compatible?
Who's with me?
Me.
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data repository...
Congratulations! Can you give us some more details? How many pages are
you serving daily and on which hardware, for instance? I think success
stories like yours are important to demonstrate that Cocoon is able to
serve lots of content with good performance.
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Upayavira wrote:
It is there somewhat more akin to an anteater test. Therefore, given
these facts, I propose to leave the CocoonBeanTestCase disabled, and
simply remove the test suite (as it isn't needed anyway.). I will
continue to use the test case locally on my own testing, and will
reflect
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Or is there anything serious that I did oversee?
Nothing, apart a few failing anteater tests. I think those are due to
faulty testcases more than to faulty code. Or maybe it's just wishful
thinking. Anyway, +1 for a release on Monday. Hopefully I'll find some
time to
Upayavira wrote:
I need to remove the test-suite and use samples/test, and confirm that
Ugo's fixes have made the CocoonBeanTestCase work, and then re-enable it.
A word of caution. My fixes add the blocks directory and block-provided
jars to the classpath for tests and make the junit-tests
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
DOMBuilderTestCase.testMultipleCharactersEvents also fails:
Content of root element not what expected expected:ABCDEF but
was:ABCDEFABCDEF
This was a problem with the testcase and not the class under test.
Should be OK now, but I cannot verify it with 1.3.
Three
, as it would
be best if it doesn't go out with a release.
Fine. I'll commit the changes to the build files ASAP, so we can
reenable the testcase before the release.
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Ugo Cei wrote:
Fine. I'll commit the changes to the build files ASAP, so we can
reenable the testcase before the release.
Done.
Ugo
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