First, I would like to clarify Gary’s email as I don’t think he characterized
it quite correctly.
The Logging PMC concluded we could not be part of an arrangement with TideLift
and
that the issues needed to be worked out at the foundation level. The primary
issue was
that TideLift had
I love the "summary" Bertrand. It's precisely what I had in mind but this
is is a very concise version of it :)
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 1:04 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le lun. 28 févr. 2022 à 11:06, Jarek Potiuk a écrit :
> >...the relationships I have is direct relationship with
>
>
> This is much easier to manage on any channel than "talking to the
> group" which is IMO required for Apache-style development.
>
> What I mean is:
> -Everybody sees the topics of all conversations fly by
> -It's easy to ignore specific or most conversations
> -It's easy to catch up after N
Hi Jarek,
Le dim. 27 févr. 2022 à 23:11, Jarek Potiuk a écrit :
> ...I use slack for async communication a lot. Including
> underrepresented in IT Outreachy (https://www.outreachy.org/) interns that
> I am mentoring - from India, Peru and Nigeria that I am interacting with
> them over the last
Yeah. I am observing (and also applauding) Chris's effort and the
problems/struggles, and I think the Tidelift (and similar) model does not
solve any of the problems of individual contributors who want to get paid.
I might be very wrong here - of course - no monopoly on understanding the
Apache
Hi Roman,
thanks for bringing this up here … I too want to help with exactly this. I
tried starting a discussion on this on members@ but that sort of dried up and
it felt a bit like a monologue or people simply telling me what didn’t work for
them in the past and therefore I shouldn’t try on
There is a small but relatively successful funding happening right now.
The Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) is organizing a code sprint
conjointly with ASF and another open-source organization (OSGeo) [1].
For this code sprint, OGC and OSGeo solicited their sponsors, but ASF
could not
Hi,
Le lun. 28 févr. 2022 à 11:06, Jarek Potiuk a écrit :
>...the relationships I have is direct relationship with the
> stakeholders. Let's deel, GitHub Sponsors, SAP Ariba are merely "removing
> bureaucratic obstacles" but they are not "between" me and my stakeholders.
> They are "on a side".
> So while I agree with everything Bertrand said I don’t think it resolves
the real issue.
TideLift is providing a guarantee to its customers that projects it
sponsors meet certain
standards. The standards they are looking for should really be set by the
ASF, not
individual projects.
This is the
Le lun. 28 févr. 2022 à 19:09, Rich Bowen a écrit :
>
>
>
> >> I still fail to understand the reason for looking for alternatives to
> >> MLs for managing ASF projects...
>
> It's less a question of us looking for alternatives, and more a question
> of observing the broader open source community
>
>
> Will someone be granted commit access, and become PMC
> member without providing an email address?
>
Why not if the mailing list is not mandatory? But I think it's not a matter
of
"having" a mailing address. It's more about subscribing and actively
discussing
using the devlist. Those two
>
>
> I don’t care why people pay Tidelift nor do I see a reason I should have
> to.
The fact that you see no added
> value doesn’t mean people won’t pay them, even if it is just so they can
> feel
> that they are contributing to the open source they use.
Proposal:
I think we all agree that
I don’t agree. First, the “added value” Tidelift provides is not our problem.
If they can’t attract customers then the individuals on the projects they
support won’t get any money.
But, as I said, Tidelift could have a mechanism to fulfill their promises if
the
ASF had overall project
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> over the past couple of years there has been a number
> of efforts trying to figure out effective ways of getting funded
> for working on ASF projects as individuals and not employees
> at companies building on top of these
I still fail to understand the reason for looking for alternatives to
MLs for managing ASF projects...
It's less a question of us looking for alternatives, and more a question
of observing the broader open source community and seeing that the
younger/newer participants in this space want
Tidelift's model, which expects that maintainers do have direct and almost
unassailable control over a project, is not compatible with the Apache Way.
Tidelift's model works well with projects in which developers and maintainers
can "do stuff" without worrying about building a consensus around
Ralph:
> The ASF doesn’t “need” Tidelift. Nor do we need Google. But there are
individuals who work on projects who would welcome the opportunity to be
paid by them
I am being paid for part of my time with Google (among others). With
contract that recognizes that I cannot "do stuff they want"
if
I'm reading this discussion from the beginning (thanks to ML). I can be
mistaken but there are two issues:
1. A community communication channel. A place where users can interact,
discuss and seek help. This should be a place for users and the community
should use whatever serves best.
2. Decision
Welcome!
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 10:27 PM Piergiorgio Lucidi
wrote:
> Congratulations Willem!
>
>
>
> Il Gio 24 Feb 2022, 07:50 Swapnil M Mane ha
> scritto:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > The ComDev PMC has invited Willem Jiang to become a member of the
> committee
> > and we are glad to announce
from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022, 06:22 Sangeeta Verma wrote:
> Hi Max,
> I am trying to create a draggable dialog box with a textbox on it. Knowing
> there exists a button what are the steps to create a movable dialog box? I
> tried .html.Panel class with html. But I can't
Dear Rajdeep Tiwari,
Welcomed to join us, you could check out the Apache Linkis(Incubating)
if interested.
Apache Linkis(Incubating) builds a computation middleware layer to
decouple the upper applications and the underlying data engines,
provides standardized interfaces (REST, JDBC, WebSocket
Congratulations Willem!
Thanks and Regards,
Aditya Sharma
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 12:19 PM Swapnil M Mane
wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> The ComDev PMC has invited Willem Jiang to become a member of the committee
> and we are glad to announce that he has accepted the nomination.
>
> Willem has been
JinChao Shuai created COMDEV-452:
Summary: Apache APISIX: Support local file and data center
configuration conversion, import and export
Key: COMDEV-452
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-452
Another chat solution to consider is Zulip [0]. Zulip's UI encourages
all chat messages to go under an appropriate thread which makes it a
bit easier to use for asynchronous communication. I think one of the
difficult aspects of using something like Slack or IRC for development
is a lack of nice
Good $localtime, folks! I just want to underscore a really important
section of the document I provided yesterday, as it seems this detail is
lost in the mix. Tidelift very deliberately does not direct development.
I'll remain on the sidelines here as y'all deliberate, but I want to make
sure
You are still confusing how individuals in ASF projects can work with Tidelift
(or vice versa) vs why anyone would pay them. I don’t care why people pay
Tidelift nor do I see a reason I should have to. The fact that you see no added
value doesn’t mean people won’t pay them, even if it is just
[
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-452?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
]
JinChao Shuai updated COMDEV-452:
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Description:
*Apache APISIX* is a dynamic, real-time, high-performance API gateway.
It
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