Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-23 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Clayton, Clayton skrev: I agree, its name should be Installation Guide. And that the guide should cover some basic setup for a desktop installation. That would not conflict with the Administration Guide. Clayton can we arrange a small voting for this? Do we need to vote? If the docum

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-23 Thread Clayton
> I agree, its name should be Installation Guide. And that the guide > should cover some basic setup for a desktop installation. That would not > conflict with the Administration Guide. > > Clayton can we arrange a small voting for this? Do we need to vote? If the document is better named Instal

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-21 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Alex, Alex Fisher skrev: Not necessarily. On my Mandriva system using KDE, any attempt to install software results in a password dialog asking for the root password. KDE has a small background process which detects when root privileges are needed. I would expect that Gnome has the same.

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-19 Thread Alex Fisher
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:36:46 Per Eriksson wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Alex Fisher skrev: > > Hi all. My 2c below > > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:37:41 Per Eriksson wrote: > >> Valden Longhurst skrev: > >>> Opps, I accidentally skipped the granting permissions step which > >>> should be in the Linux in

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-19 Thread Alex Fisher
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:20:13 Per Eriksson wrote: > Hi Jean, > > Jean Hollis Weber skrev: > > Per Eriksson wrote: > >> Hey, I just got an idea. Maybe we should stop being old fashioned and > >> show the user how to unpack and install using the graphical side of > >> the operating system? I bet 90% o

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-19 Thread T. J. Frazier
Per Eriksson wrote: Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber skrev: snip I have always thought the Setup Guide was mis-named. To me it is an installation guide. "Setup" suggests it includes things after installation (more things that just what the user sees on first running a new install)... things like c

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-19 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber skrev: I don't understand why the title and contents of the so-called Setup Guide (issue 102393) should be different from the download and installation instructions page on the OOo website. The info might be presented a little bit differently to suit web or PDF, but

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-19 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Alex, Alex Fisher skrev: Hi all. My 2c below On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:37:41 Per Eriksson wrote: Valden Longhurst skrev: Opps, I accidentally skipped the granting permissions step which should be in the Linux instructions as well. If you choose to provide "System Requirements" th

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-19 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber skrev: Per Eriksson wrote: Hey, I just got an idea. Maybe we should stop being old fashioned and show the user how to unpack and install using the graphical side of the operating system? I bet 90% of all the users have a graphical environment even if they like to co

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-18 Thread Alex Fisher
Hi Vladen On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:15:34 Valden Longhurst wrote: > Ah, the power of UNIX-like operating system (which Linux is just one) is > sometimes seen as a disadvantage. Oh, I don't regard it as a disadvantage. It's just that those end-users coming from other OS's will generally find refer

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-18 Thread Valden Longhurst
Ah, the power of UNIX-like operating system (which Linux is just one) is sometimes seen as a disadvantage. There are many ways to install software on these systems: * the faithful tar solution * variety of rpm solutions * variety of dpkg and/or aptitude and/or apt-get * yast * autopackage * syn

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-18 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I don't understand why the title and contents of the so-called Setup Guide (issue 102393) should be different from the download and installation instructions page on the OOo website. The info might be presented a little bit differently to suit web or PDF, but they cover much the same topics. I

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber skrev: Per Eriksson wrote: Hey, I just got an idea. Maybe we should stop being old fashioned and show the user how to unpack and install using the graphical side of the operating system? I bet 90% of all the users have a graphical environment even if they like to co

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Alex Fisher
Hi all. My 2c below On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:37:41 Per Eriksson wrote: > Valden Longhurst skrev: > > Opps, I accidentally skipped the granting permissions step which > > should be in the Linux instructions as well. If you choose to provide > > "System Requirements" then don't forget them. Curr

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Per Eriksson wrote: Hey, I just got an idea. Maybe we should stop being old fashioned and show the user how to unpack and install using the graphical side of the operating system? I bet 90% of all the users have a graphical environment even if they like to code... I propose to change these to

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Valden Longhurst
Yes, my comment regarding the granting permisions step was the XAUTHITY... stuff Per Eriksson wrote: Valden Longhurst skrev: Opps, I accidentally skipped the granting permissions step which should be in the Linux instructions as well. If you choose to provide "System Requirements" then don't

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Per Eriksson
Valden Longhurst skrev: Opps, I accidentally skipped the granting permissions step which should be in the Linux instructions as well. If you choose to provide "System Requirements" then don't forget them. Currently, the HTML code has them as URLs pointing to nothing really. Hey, I just go

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Per Eriksson
Valden Longhurst skrev: Opps, I accidentally skipped the granting permissions step which should be in the Linux instructions as well. If you choose to provide "System Requirements" then don't forget them. Currently, the HTML code has them as URLs pointing to nothing really. Ah yes, some l

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Valden, You're right, so I've changed the instructions accordingly. I have replaced the old instructions completely for Linux and Solaris with the new Java Installer as it cares about all the details with the RPM and pkgadd commands and thus is the recommended way. I have a Fedora machine

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Valden Longhurst
Opps, I accidentally skipped the granting permissions step which should be in the Linux instructions as well. If you choose to provide "System Requirements" then don't forget them. Currently, the HTML code has them as URLs pointing to nothing really. Valden Longhurst wrote: The first step in

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Valden Longhurst
The first step in the Linux and Solaris installations is "su to become superuser." This is unnecessary as you do it again in step four. Also, step two under Linux needs to be changed as this will not work without the z flag. Here are some suggestions for Linux, if you are willing: 1. St

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-17 Thread Per Eriksson
Hello, I have a first draft available. What about something like this: http://erinet.se/ooo/doc/instructions.html Per Valden Longhurst skrev: Personally, I like the idea. However, the system requirements I think are helpful. Maybe make them not so noticeable but still there? Those are ju

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-16 Thread Per Eriksson
Hello, Valden Longhurst skrev: Personally, I like the idea. However, the system requirements I think are helpful. Maybe make them not so noticeable but still there? What about a flap-box using JavaScript, and a normal text box if JavaScript is not available? Per ---

Re: [documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-16 Thread Valden Longhurst
Personally, I like the idea. However, the system requirements I think are helpful. Maybe make them not so noticeable but still there? Those are just my 2 cents. Per Eriksson wrote: Hello, I am prepairing the OpenOffice.org 3.0 update for this page: http://download.openoffice.org/common/ins

[documentation-dev] Download and installation instructions

2009-06-16 Thread Per Eriksson
Hello, I am prepairing the OpenOffice.org 3.0 update for this page: http://download.openoffice.org/common/instructions.html I have the following ideas: 1. Make the page more graphical and clearly mark the different sections for the different operating systems 2. Introduce Java Installer instr