RE: ApacheCon Slides

2014-03-26 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
[mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:14 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon Slides Hi, Maybe I am too idealistic, but I think if FlexJS does become the most efficient way to make money selling RIAs and mobile apps, some of those folks will come back. My

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2014-03-26 Thread Avi Kessner
I would like to see FlexJS advertised more as a way to expand Flex, rather than to replace ActionScript or Flash. brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Ok, I will remove the Flash-based solutions no

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2014-03-26 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/26/14 7:56 AM, Kessler CTR Mark J mark.kessler@usmc.mil wrote: We have 15 applications in total. These are all web based flex/flash based medium business level applications that are data driven. It is unrealistic for us to do a large conversion to JS of any type at this point.

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2014-03-26 Thread Alex Harui
I'm definitely not a marketing person so suggestions are welcome. We should probably start another thread on it. I like the FlexJS name right now because I think it is important to get the attention of the JS developers, but maybe there's a better or additional tag line besides Flex for

Re: ApacheCon Slides

2014-03-25 Thread Deepak MS
I looked into this slide: Why FlexJS? Adobe Flash Player used to be in every browser Adobe AIR used to run on most computers Executives no longer carry Flash-capable devices AIR apps require installation and upgrades AIR apps have some fidelity issues Flash-based solutions no longer desirable

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Yes, I agree with you. -Message d'origine- De : Deepak MS [mailto:megharajdee...@gmail.com] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 07:52 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides I looked into this slide: Why FlexJS? Adobe Flash Player used to be in every browser Adobe AIR used to run

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2014-03-25 Thread piotrz
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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
had a shadow ;-) Chris Von: Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2014 23:58 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: ApacheCon Slides Hi, I just uploaded my stuf a few minutes ago: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events

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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
be used by a lot of users. Chris Von: omup...@gmail.com omup...@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 00:10 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: ApacheCon Slides Chris, a couple of points: 1. You

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
presentation, thanks Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 22:07 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : AW: ApacheCon Slides Hi Guys, I just uploaded my stuf a few minutes ago: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
What software are you using for the slides? Powerpoint ? Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 09:45 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : AW: ApacheCon Slides Hi Justin ... Have to admit that it seems to be easier

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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
... Something like that? But thanks for the Feedback ... I'll probably update the slides this evening. Chris Von: Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 10:35 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides Few

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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
Jup Von: Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 10:37 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides What software are you using for the slides? Powerpoint ? Maurice -Message d'origine- De

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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 10:35 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides Few remarks: Slide 6: Native Applications = Native mobile applications , to avoid the confusion with AIR apps. Slide 7: Desktop + Web + Mobile Slide 8: the green smiley should not cover the flex logo

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
If you can send me the ppt or pptx, I could remove the text shadow and send it back to you. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 11:06 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : AW: ApacheCon Slides Jup

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
@flex.apache.org Objet : AW: ApacheCon Slides Just checked again ... IntelliJ IDEA (Community) doesn't Support ActionScript and Flex ... so it is only the Ultimate Version: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html Chris Von: Maurice

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
and the other in step by step wizard, Exceeds the usual scope of skinning (which does not mean it's not possible). Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 11:06 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : AW: ApacheCon Slides Hi Maurice

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2014-03-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than dropping that dam shadow ;-) Know what you mean I open have many stand back I'm using photoshop moments :-) Justin

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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
Interpretation. Chris Von: Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 11:19 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides What did you want to Point out on slide 11? I mean skinning is on the appearance

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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
: Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 11:37 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: ApacheCon Slides Hi, Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than dropping that dam shadow ;-) Know what you mean I open have many stand back I'm using

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Cool. -Message d'origine- De : Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 11:43 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : AW: ApacheCon Slides Found out how to do it ... great you have 1000 Places where you can add shadows in PowerPoint

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 11:41 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : AW: ApacheCon Slides But I think it's not only appearance ... that's the Point. At least what I especially like about Flex skinning

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2014-03-25 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/25/14 1:44 AM, Christofer Dutz christofer.d...@c-ware.de wrote: Hi Justin ... Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than dropping that dam shadow ;-) Tried the Shadow effect, but that added even more shadow ... it was somehow part of the template they gave us ...

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2014-03-25 Thread Alex Harui
this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/ApacheCon-Slides-tp36 258p36299.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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2014-03-25 Thread Alex Harui
Ok, I will remove the Flash-based solutions no longer desirable Anybody besides Maurice think I need to change or remove the Flex without Flash? -Alex On 3/24/14 11:52 PM, Deepak MS megharajdee...@gmail.com wrote: I looked into this slide: Why FlexJS? Adobe Flash Player used to be in every

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
? Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 17:34 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides While we should be proud of our install numbers, I think they may be more related to the transition from Adobe Flex to Apache Flex

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2014-03-25 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/25/14 11:07 AM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote: We'll know we are truly on our way to success when we start hearing from those folks again. I agree with the first sentence : I also think current users of Apache Flex are related to established Flex projects, that moved

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2014-03-25 Thread Maurice Amsellem
:-) Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 19:49 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides On 3/25/14 11:07 AM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote: We'll know we are truly on our way to success when we

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2014-03-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
@flex.apache.org Betreff: AW: ApacheCon Slides Oh ... will go through the presentation again and correct the Flex SDK Thing ... I took the numbers Justin posted a few days ago ... if it's 4 that's great and I'll update that too ... wanted to add a note that it will be more as in Flexmojos using

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2014-03-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Anybody besides Maurice think I need to change or remove the Flex without Flash? Yes IMO as FlexJS is not really Flex as people understand it. Justin

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2014-03-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, While we should be proud of our install numbers, I think they may be more related to the transition from Adobe Flex to Apache Flex for folks with established Flex projects. That's probably correct but we have seen increasing numbers of installs for each version released. There was a

Re: AW: ApacheCon Slides

2014-03-25 Thread piotrz
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2014-03-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Maybe I am too idealistic, but I think if FlexJS does become the most efficient way to make money selling RIAs and mobile apps, some of those folks will come back. My option on this is this: Unless it's a drop in 1 for 1 replacement I don't think the take up is going to be huge. People

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2014-03-25 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
My 2 cents: I see no reason for folks to not adopt FlexJS, if we do good marketing. Also, I had voiced this opinion earlier - FlexJS is a new SDK being built from scratch. Forgetting the JS part, it is a chance to right a lot of wrongs that have been accumulated with the current Flex SDK (which

ApacheCon Slides

2014-03-24 Thread Alex Harui
ApacheCon required that we upload our slide decks by today. I just posted my slides. If you have time, please take a look and let me know if you think I should make changes. The FlexJS session is essentially the same as the 360|Stack presentation from last year. What's Happening in the Apache

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2014-03-24 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex Mobile: - New components/features (Mobile Grid, Scrollable text) - iOS7 status bar support - Support for low res (120DPI) and hi-res (480, 640 DPI) devices - CSS-Media queries for OS version - CSS-Media queries for device dimensions -

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2014-03-24 Thread Angelo Anolin
Looks good @Alex. I just hope that the full session, including the apps on your demo for both sessions would be available to everyone after the event. On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.comwrote: I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex

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2014-03-24 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
For FlexJS, it would be nice if you can use the beads/strands diagrams from here [1] They do a good job of explaining the concepts visually. Thanks, Om [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Creating+Components On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala

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2014-03-24 Thread Maurice Amsellem
- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:03 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : ApacheCon Slides ApacheCon required that we upload our slide decks by today. I just posted my slides. If you have time, please take a look and let me know if you think I should

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2014-03-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/24/14 1:30 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote: Flex.pdf Page 6: Eclipse-based IDE = not only (IDEA, FlashDevelop, etc..) Overall, the impression it gave me is that it's not describing what's happening in Apache Flex Project, but rather an advertisement to attract new

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2014-03-24 Thread Maurice Amsellem
+1 for the mobile improvements -Message d'origine- De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:13 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex

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2014-03-24 Thread Alex Harui
Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece for folks attending a 45 minute session. I do have another diagram from my 360|Stack slides that tries to show the class substitution done by the compiler

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2014-03-24 Thread Christofer Dutz
] Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2014 21:03 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: ApacheCon Slides ApacheCon required that we upload our slide decks by today. I just posted my slides. If you have time, please take a look and let me know if you think I should make changes. The FlexJS session is essentially

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2014-03-24 Thread Maurice Amsellem
-Message d'origine- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:42 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides On 3/24/14 1:30 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote: Flex.pdf Page 6: Eclipse-based IDE = not only (IDEA, FlashDevelop, etc

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2014-03-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Hmm. I think the whole point of FlexJS is to create a framework that runs without Flash and a key factor is the impact from decisions and statements made by Jobs and Adobe. Are you saying that enough time has passed that these decisions and statements are no longer a factor? IMO

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2014-03-24 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece for folks attending a 45 minute session. I do have another diagram from my

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2014-03-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/24/14 3:21 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece for folks

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2014-03-24 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
. Thanks, Om Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:42 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides On 3/24/14 1:30 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote: Flex.pdf Page 6: Eclipse

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2014-03-24 Thread Maurice Amsellem
and Android. It happened around me many times. WDYT? Maurice -Message d'origine- De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 23:28 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM

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2014-03-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I just uploaded my stuf a few minutes ago: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/Building%20Enterprise%20Level%20Applications%20with%20Apache%20Flex%20and%20Java-v9-20140313_1547.pdf Lots of info + liking the positive tone you have going there :-) You may want to

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2014-03-24 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Chris, a couple of points: 1. You seem to switch between the terms 'Flex SDK' and 'FDK' midpoint in the presentation. I think we should all be consistently using the term 'Flex SDK'. 2. The numbers on slide 32 is a outdated. We have more than 40,000 installs of the Flex SDK since we started

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2014-03-24 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
. Thanks, Om WDYT? Maurice -Message d'origine- De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 23:28 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Maurice Amsellem

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2014-03-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Also I think both slide decks need a little more branding (Apache Flex and ASF logos) and of course the trademark statement and a link to flex.a.o wouldn't go astray. Remember more than just attendees of ApacheCon will see these. Thanks, Justin

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2014-03-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, 2. The numbers on slide 32 is a outdated. We have more than 40,000 installs of the Flex SDK since we started keeping track. BTW where do you get the 40,000 number from. I can only see 30,000 in the google stats. That only include 4.9 and up are you including 4.8 in that and if so how