[marketing-dev] Re: OPENOFFICE FOR TABLETS

2011-08-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On 6 August 2011 04:50, Louis Suárez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com wrote: hi, On 2011-08-05, at 23:47 , Andy Brown wrote: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Stephen, et al. I replied privately to Mrs Evaggelou, and pointed out that though OOo 3.3.x is licensed LGPL v3., the trademark for same is

[marketing-dev] Re: Resigning as Marketing Project Lead

2011-06-07 Thread Ian Lynch
Yes, thanks Peter. Hope to see you around the net in future. I must try and get to visit China ;-) Thanks On 7 June 2011 14:31, Elizabeth Matthis e.matt...@yahoo.de wrote: Dear Peter, You have been wonderful as leader in many capacities. Thank you for so much commitment over the years and

[marketing-dev] Re: OpenOffice.org to become an Apache Foundation Incubator Project

2011-06-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On 2 June 2011 16:42, Gozarks goza...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again... and thank you (everyone) for keeping this whole conversation so open and dynamic. As I have been listening, one key question has evolved for me: Where do I fit in? This because, as previously noted, I am not a coder... my

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On 26 May 2011 15:18, Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar wrote: El 26/05/11 13:09, Charles-H. Schulz escribió: But it's perhaps not very important at that stage. +1 I'm sorry by mistake the focus. Is better build the new idea for OOo comunity. :-) How about gaining agreement on

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On 26 May 2011 17:39, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello Ian, Le Thu, 26 May 2011 15:32:22 +0100, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com a écrit : On 26 May 2011 15:18, Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar wrote: El 26/05/11 13:09, Charles-H. Schulz

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-26 Thread Ian Lynch
1. TDF governance is adopted by all - in that case OOo community Council etc is absorbed into TDF 2. OOo CC is adopted by all - in that case TDF is absorbed into OOo CC 3. A new organisation is created with a new constitution and governance for both communities 4. Either governance

[marketing-dev] Re: ping

2011-05-22 Thread Ian Lynch
One thing that can benefit TDF is the OpenOffice.org brand. It is much more widely known so simply on that one issue to would be best to bury differences and work together to optimise all the possible resources in a single direction. (This is marketing so appreciation of the importance of building

[marketing-dev] Re: New strategies for OO (new subject)

2011-05-19 Thread Ian Lynch
, and many many others, including me, now—but for the stakeholders, in much the same way that an Eclipse like platform or Apache does. By providing the source technology that creates new markets. -louis On 2011-05-18, at 19:21 , Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-19, Ian Lynch

[marketing-dev] Re: ping

2011-05-18 Thread Ian Lynch
On 18 May 2011 23:38, Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 2011-05-13, at 04:39 , Ian Lynch wrote: I know this might be a bit of an emotive topic for some, but wouldn't it be an idea to open up dialogue with the LibreOffice people? A split community was never an ideal

[marketing-dev] Re: ping

2011-05-13 Thread Ian Lynch
I know this might be a bit of an emotive topic for some, but wouldn't it be an idea to open up dialogue with the LibreOffice people? A split community was never an ideal situation from a simple logical point of view. Ok, there are emotional wounds to heal but talking about possibilities without

[marketing-dev] Re: Interesting News

2011-04-16 Thread Ian Lynch
On 16 April 2011 04:34, Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com wrote: All, As others have noted… well, this is interesting news.* And it comes as news, indeed. It also comes unattached with any actual explication as to what it means in practice. And there are many questions, and I've

[marketing-dev] Re: Budget for Hirano

2011-03-18 Thread Ian Lynch
On 18 March 2011 05:17, Peter Junge p...@openoffice.org wrote: Kazunari-san, I've been reading your blog and now I want to get your recommendation which organization to donate to. Some of the large international relief organizations are not too effective because their rate of administrative

Re: [marketing] EducOOo donated code for ARM Linux port

2011-02-19 Thread Ian Lynch
On 19 February 2011 07:41, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, For your information : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=117017 Linux ARM is extremely promising for the future, and imho it worth to improve it asap. Why is MS porting Windows to ARM? - There is at least a

Re: [marketing] OOO 3.3

2011-01-31 Thread Ian Lynch
On 31 January 2011 15:24, Rev JP Webb (Work) jp.w...@btinternet.com wrote: To whom it may concern I used openoffice 3.0 but I seriously need a proper MS publisher replacement. Draw does not cut the mustard and Scribus is not user friendly. Try Inkscape. For flyers, leaflets etc - I did

Re: [marketing] training oppertunities

2011-01-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On 2 January 2011 10:53, Amal Senerath amalsenar...@yahoo.com wrote: hi, I am Amal Senarath from Sri Lanka, work as a IT lecturer /trainer /consultant including Microsoft office. but because of third licence software most of the companies are struggling. so i would like to train the

[marketing] Digital Inclusion

2010-11-28 Thread Ian Lynch
A bit off topic perhaps, but I drafted a unit on Digital Inclusion at the request of e-skills http://theingots.org/community/Digital_Inclusion. (e-skills is the UK Sector Skills Council for Business and IT)The idea is to relate open source, and open systems to inclusion. The unit has the potential

Re: [marketing] Community - who and where are we? [was: Logo for 10th...]

2010-10-09 Thread ian . lynch
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:16 PM, ian.ly...@theingots.org wrote: Op 9-10-2010 2:15, Bernhard Dippold schreef: It represents all community members and therefore it represents the community as a whole. The Community Council was elected to, and is supposed to, represent the community.

Re: [marketing] Community - who and where are we? [was: Logo for 10th...]

2010-10-08 Thread ian . lynch
Hi Alex, all Hi Bernhard, Congratulations on a very good analysis. OOo has needed a foundation from the outset. It was inevitable, only the timing has been uncertain. If Oracle didn't know this they didn't do proper due diligence. The next question is how to optimise the resources available

Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-10 Thread ian . lynch
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:38 PM, luiz luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Charles, Can you write some words about your lecture on OOo 5.0 Ideas? Our objective is to publish them on special edition of BrOffice.org Magazine. The deadline is 19/09. I was during the event and aside from what Charles

Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san

2010-06-17 Thread ian . lynch
On 2010-06-17, at 10:55 , Cor Nouws wrote: There will be some draft for funding approval guidelines soon (..). So I think that is a good moment to look at details: what can reasonably be considered useful to fund. of course. for anything like this, careful scrutiny and strong argument is

Re: [marketing] Open Source Survey

2010-03-02 Thread ian . lynch
this too. So if you have time and can fill in and spread the survey further, please do. Thanks. Ian Lynch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h

Re: [marketing] use OO through the net

2010-01-13 Thread ian . lynch
Hi Folks, I am wondering that providing openoffice through the internet. My idea is that - OO will be distributed to the user through syncing, such as dropbox, ubuntu one, etc. - The user will not be necessary to install it. - They just click on it and use it. (like USB portable

Re: [marketing] Why does Microsoft fear OpenOffice.org?

2009-12-30 Thread ian . lynch
Rockaway Twp. Library, 61 Mount Hope Rd., is offering a new computer class on OpenOffice software. It will cover how to download the software, create documents and spreadsheets. http://www.northjersey.com/community/at_the_library/events/80325597.html The intro to Openoffice is a new course.

Re: [marketing] Problem in using open office

2009-01-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 15:23 +0530, Vikram Gaur wrote: Hi, while using openoffice.org 3.0 on windows platform, some problems are being faced: 1.When two persons are opening same document in network both gets the document in writable mode. 2.In Calc filter utility doesn't allow

Re: [marketing] Re: [cd-rom] Happy New Year

2009-01-03 Thread ian . lynch
ian.ly...@zmsl.com wrote (1-1-2009 20:32) The policy of not touching the front-page is a big mistake since it give us little to work with. Most of the communication is obscure to the user, just like the 'why' campaigns and others. IMHO if the marketing project means anything it should have

Re: [marketing] Re: [cd-rom] Happy New Year

2009-01-02 Thread ian . lynch
I would say the problem is a lack of concrete discussion; I'm sure that if someone put forward a [specific] suggestion about what they think would be good to have on the homepage / some other page(s) on the OOo website, they won't be ignored. I'm just thinking back to a few years ago when

[marketing] Re: [cd-rom] Happy New Year

2009-01-01 Thread ian . lynch
A general message to everybody on the list to wish you all a Happy New Year, and thank you for your contributions to the 'cause'. Although the general economy is not in a very good state, this may - in a sideways direction - increase interest in OpenOffice.org and give us a chance to get

Re: [marketing] Re: [cd-rom] Happy New Year

2009-01-01 Thread ian . lynch
The policy of not touching the front-page is a big mistake since it give us little to work with. Most of the communication is obscure to the user, just like the 'why' campaigns and others. IMHO if the marketing project means anything it should have full control over what goes on the front

Re: [marketing] Thoughts about the help section in OOo

2008-12-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 13:58 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello, while many of us are digesting the turkey, I was caught by John Mc Creesh's blog post the importance of friends: http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/12/21/the-importance-of-friends/ Basically this is some results of a

Re: [marketing] Introduction

2008-12-19 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 17:15 +0100, Rosana Ardila wrote: Hello All, I wanted to introduce myself to the OpenOffice.org marketing project. I will be working at Sun until the end of April, also helping with the marketing for OpenOffice.org. And I want to use the time to work with and in

Re: [marketing] Microsoft ODF plans for Office 2007 SP2

2008-12-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:54 +0530, Vikram Gaur wrote: Web version has limited future because of bandwidth. Google will take care of that. That is like saying MS will take care of the desktop for us! At the moment there are bandwidth limitations but they will gradually ease and those that go

Re: [marketing] Microsoft ODF plans for Office 2007 SP2

2008-12-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:02 +, Richard Rothwell wrote: 2008/12/17 Ian Lynch ian.ly...@zmsl.com: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:54 +0530, Vikram Gaur wrote: Web version has limited future because of bandwidth. Google will take care of that. That is like saying MS will take care

Re: [marketing] Interesting article

2008-12-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 08:29 +1000, Alex Fisher wrote: The Register had this interesting article this morning. Appears an entire high school class failed an IT exam because the submitted the exam in MS Word format, but the examining board doesn't accept Word documents

Re: [marketing] Article: US consumers prefer OpenOffice to Google Docs

2008-11-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 15:32 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: US consumers prefer OpenOffice to Google Docs http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21729/53/ Hosted, and generally free, office applications are being touted as a big threat to Microsoft's dominance of the desktop, but a survey of US

[marketing] Malaysia

2008-11-12 Thread Ian Lynch
Just back from Malaysia. They have an odf Olympiad for kids in addition to other strategies to move the entire public sector to open systems. OpenOffice.org has a high profile as part of the national migration strategy. I have blogged it here for anyone interested in some more details.

Re: SV: Re: [marketing] Contact bizdev/developers WAS Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org Community Mapping Project

2008-11-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 14:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i meant domain developers, i.e. members of the bizdev project with domain developer role. The context was clearified in a previous msg. Per Probably the same argument applies. If you want volunteers to commit their time, it has to

Re: [marketing] Contact bizdev/developers WAS Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org Community Mapping Project

2008-11-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 15:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: ...Here are a few. Perceived to be controlled by Sun Yes, however, keep in mind that much of that perception has been cultivated through several years of attacks from MS both directly and through proxy. Case

Re: [marketing] Contact bizdev/developers WAS Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org Community Mapping Project

2008-11-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 12:15 +0100, Per Eriksson wrote: I'd really suggest that the information is available when not using JavaScript. Talking to Louis and getting more developers is the solution if you ask me. The problem is that there has been a shortage of developers ever since the

Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [users] Open Source software workshop]

2008-10-25 Thread Ian Lynch
, and there are some mutual connections - so hopefully we can come up with a decent solution. I am happy to do this, just depends on the exact date in February. Wolverhampton is only 30 minutes from here. Regards, Andy Loughran Alexandro Colorado wrote: I think Ian Lynch would be great contact

Re: [marketing] Microsoft: OpenOffice better than Google Apps

2008-10-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 17:33 +0100, John McCreesh wrote: Steve Ballmer has insisted that OpenOffice is a far better rival to Microsoft's Office than Google's applications suite http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/microsoft-open-office-a-bigger-rival-than-google-apps-476243 I wonder is he

[marketing] UK Schools open source project

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Lynch
http://www.opensourceschools.org.uk/ OOo3 prominent on the front page -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby

Re: [marketing] [Ann] Call for donation for Education and Mac OS X porting projects

2008-09-16 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 15:44 +0200, eric b wrote: Hi, Several OpenOffice.org Projects have no or very limited resources, like e.g. Mac OS X Aqua port and Education Project (still incubator project). There were suggestions about setting up sustainable fund raising projects for education

Re: [marketing] Partnership program

2008-09-05 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 01:29 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: A few days back Florian mentioned the idea of a Marketplace for OOo. There has also been some talk about a partnership program. I guess I want to bring the discussion back on track. What exactly do we need to create this

Re: [marketing] Training Module

2008-09-01 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 17:33 -0700, Rj ian Sevilla wrote: Hello guys, Can anyone point me if there's any openoffice training modules? In english.. http://theingots.org/moodle/course/category.php?id=3 You can make an account for free. Any support in making improvements is welcome. This course

Re: [marketing] Microsoft and the BBC

2008-08-30 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 21:44 +0100, John McCreesh wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: This is an awesome video by the FSF showing how much money is spent by M$ sponsored organizationson closing up the information distribution. I am sure many in this team will find this video amazing to watch

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org marketing materials?

2008-08-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 21:06 -0400, Yuhan Fang wrote: Hello everyone, Can anybody point me to something like a whitepaper on OpenOffice.org? I'm looking for a press-ready report that evaluates OpenOffice.org as a replacement for the Microsoft Office suite. Ideally, this should be targeted

Re: [marketing] Multimedia Ads of Open Office

2008-08-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 01:26 -0700, Rj ian Sevilla wrote: Is there an available multimedia ads of Open Office? id like to play it on the FOSS event this coming September... These You Tube Videos might be useful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFge2zTSN-A

[marketing] OOo Story to Digg

2008-04-30 Thread Ian Lynch
http://digg.com/microsoft/How_to_make_the_transition_from_MS_Office_to_Open_Office :-) Ian -- New QCA Accredited IT Qualifications www.theINGOTs.org You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79

[marketing] Moodle course for OOo

2008-04-29 Thread Ian Lynch
Hi all, At http://theingots.org/moodle/course/view.php?id=11 There is a Moodle course for teaching/learning Open Office. Anyone is free to make an account and use the course and I can give edit permission to anyone that wants to make improvements to it. You can do a lot simply by logging on as a

Re: [marketing] Re: Marketing Open Office in libraries?

2008-04-25 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 10:59 -0400, Anastasia Diamond-Ortiz wrote: Thank you for the quick responses. Am I free to create CDs for distribution to be public? Are there any existing marketing materials I should know about? Look on the marketing pages of the OpenOffice.org web site. Please do

Re: [marketing] Marketing Open Office in libraries?

2008-04-24 Thread Ian Lynch
There are a number of books in print, and there are a lot of materials available for download. Try some of these: http://documentation.openoffice.org/ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation http://www.learnopenoffice.org/index.htm http://training.bytebot.net/

[marketing] Microsoft come unstuck in Newham

2008-04-19 Thread Ian Lynch
At least part of the deal with Newham was related to compatibility of office software. They were persuaded away from OpenOffice.org and FOSS generally by a last minute cut-price offer from MS. http://digg.com/microsoft/London_council_dumps_Microsoft Ian -- New QCA Accredited IT Qualifications

Re: [marketing] How can OOo make you money?

2008-03-08 Thread Ian Lynch
What's missing is the connection between pure use value and all kinds of sale value. That's what we've been calling the because effect. You make money because of free and open code, not just with it. What this really means is that society benefits from FOSS because it is a fundamentally

[marketing] Another UK school taking up OOo

2008-03-07 Thread Ian Lynch
I was doing some initial INGOT training at Sandwich Technology College UK (place where sandwiches were invented :-) ) that has 1000 computers. They intend to migrate 1000 seats to OOo imminently. Just thought that another success is nice to know about :-) I think quite a lot more schools are

[marketing] School kids blogging OOo

2008-02-22 Thread Ian Lynch
Thought there might be some interest in high school kids blogging their projects to support primary kids with OOo http://www.theingots.org/community/blog Taken a while but we are now getting quite a lot of new OOo users in schools. Ian -- New QCA Accredited IT Qualifications www.theINGOTs.org

Re: [Marketing] Website Upgrade Marketing Input

2007-12-24 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 18:57 +1100, André Wyrwa wrote: Hei, On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 22:00 -0800, Mihai Mazilu wrote: Don't fight the change. Use it to your advantage. OpenOffice.org I can already see us ending up with a page that sais less about what OOo is than the current one. ;-)

Re: [Marketing] Next Marketing Campaign

2007-12-03 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 17:45 +1100, Jonathon Coombes wrote: We need to come up with a campaign aimed at an 18 - 24 yr old demographic with best punch for a limited budget. The idea is to be ready with a pitch when or if further funds become available.in the next quarter. I agree

Re: [Marketing] Next Marketing Campaign

2007-12-03 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:56 +1100, Jonathon Coombes wrote: On 03/12/2007, at 7:58 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 17:45 +1100, Jonathon Coombes wrote: We need to come up with a campaign aimed at an 18 - 24 yr old demographic with best punch for a limited budget

Re: [Marketing] Next Marketing Campaign

2007-12-03 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 21:38 +1100, Jonathon Coombes wrote: On 03/12/2007, at 9:22 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:56 +1100, Jonathon Coombes wrote: On 03/12/2007, at 7:58 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: SNIP! Agreed, but in these levels the computers are not used just

Re: [Marketing] Two for the price of one

2007-12-03 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:28 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 08:22:41 Lars Noodén wrote: Many home users and even businesses may not realize that they can have OOo installed along side any existing office suites. -Lars Hmmm, interesting concept, I like it

Re: [Marketing] Google Highly Open Participation Contest

2007-12-01 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 15:26 -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I wonder if anyone from the Marketing team has aproached Google so that OOo can participate in this program. We currently need high schoolers to get introduced to the OpenOffice.org community and I think we should take as much

[Marketing] Vehicle for OOo into education

2007-11-23 Thread Ian Lynch
http://ltsblogs.org.uk/connected/2007/11/22/connected-live-video-010-easy-eeepc/#comment-830 Bit about OOo is about halfway in. RM is marketing this to UK schools and they are in 80% of primary. I need to do a deal with them where we give one of these free to every school that becomes an INGOT

Re: [Marketing] Your Otto needs you...

2007-11-20 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 20:07 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi John, Continuing the theme of attracting developers ... why don't we just advertise for them? I like that idea. It is humorous and eye-catching! On the topic of Otto We have Ottos club at www.theINGOTs.org/Ottos_club

Re: [Marketing] OO - Online Marketing

2007-11-18 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 03:28 -0800, Gianluigi Cuccureddu wrote: When there are lots of search queries regarding Microsoft problems, OO can advertise on these to get at least branding and brand recognition, these keywords aren't pricy, lots of coverage and a positive approach whenever a user

Re: [Marketing] Otto Overlays

2007-11-16 Thread Ian Lynch
http://rootcoffee.blogspot.com/2007/11/race-to-save-mexico-flood-victims.html These were just rough drafts, I wouldn't do any stretching on a finished image 8^). Otto could be smaller? (maybe a lot smaller?). I also thought of having him stand beside the screenshot. I'll do some more

Re: [Marketing] OpenDocument Foundation drops support for ODF

2007-11-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:41 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello, Ian Lynch a écrit : On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:09 -0500, Sean W. O'Quin wrote: I think that we should put out some sort of counter press release stating that Open Document Foundation has nothing to do

RE: [Marketing] OpenDocument Foundation drops support for ODF

2007-10-31 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:09 -0500, Sean W. O'Quin wrote: I think that we should put out some sort of counter press release stating that Open Document Foundation has nothing to do with OpenOffice.org as this story has now been picked up by Slashdot and there may be a great deal of confusion as

Re: [Marketing] OpenDocument Foundation drops support for ODF

2007-10-31 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 15:04 -0700, RJ Gilson wrote: --- Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open Document Foundation is just a title. Its nothing to do with OOo... If they're not related to OOo, how can they be using the gulls bug and the wire gulls in the header on their website

Re: [Marketing] Microsoft licensing in Schools A BBC Report

2007-10-30 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 20:00 -0500, Sean W. O'Quin wrote: Notable quotes from Becta - British Educational Communications and Technology Agency on their recent recommendation against Vista and Microsoft Office for Britain's education system. Becta's advice to schools considering moving to

Re: [Marketing] HiPath OpenOffice

2007-10-30 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 22:17 +, jonathon wrote: Ian wrote: I realize that trademark registration is expensive. Not that expensive. IIRC it was about £250 ($500) to trademark the For one country about £250. Multiply that by 244 and you are looking at roughly 61,000 pounds. Not as

Re: [Marketing] HiPath OpenOffice

2007-10-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 20:16 +, jonathon wrote: Sharud wrote: As it is confusing with name OpenOffice , therefore we should raise this issue. It is too late now, but * OpenOffice.org should have been trademarked in at least every major country, prior to being released; *

Re: [Marketing] Re: Marketshare Memes (was Interesting study about price sensitivity of students)

2007-10-13 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 18:50 -0700, NoOp wrote: That said, the largest stumbling block to OOo's lack of market share isn't price, file compatibility, or other issues raised in the article. Instead it's the continued lack of a proper support staff and ease of upgrades/updates. Yes, if the

Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds

2007-10-12 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 18:38 -0700, RJ Gilson wrote: Hi everybody, I'm very new here (mostly an 'art list guy), but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth 8^) Wouldn't it be easier to track if people had to send something in to get a free CD? Lke a coupon on snack food items (Frito Lay,

Re: [Marketing] Marketshare Memes blog post

2007-10-12 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 07:15 -0700, Benjamin Horst wrote: I've converted my email of this morning into a blog post on the subject. Comments and discussion are very welcome there: also, please Digg the post to see how quickly we can start this meme! Dugg

Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds

2007-10-11 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 02:58 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: We are tossing a very small stone in a very large pond I would stick with just the T-Shirts, but again that would depend on our targets. Let's first define our demographic Decide locations Establish the message we want to deliver

Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds

2007-10-11 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 15:34 +, andylockran wrote: I like the Kellogg's idea for the CDs - has it been raised before - and if so - what were the pros/cons? It did come up several years ago. Its still a good idea but needs someone who can get to the right people in the company. Sun might be

Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds

2007-10-11 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 17:54 +0200, CTVN wrote: putting it in cereal boxes is really an excellent way to get it to the attention of people as average jane/joe sees it in the supermarket. this is a top spot and worth lot. regarding the actual use of the cd, perhaps its not that effective

Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds

2007-10-11 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 17:14 +, andylockran wrote: So the main thing now is strategy. IMHO we would be better finding a big supplier and in-effect outsourcing the box tokens to them. However, I'm sure they'll want to know the benefit to them. I suppose if we say 1,000 gets you a computer

Re: [Marketing] Important news regarding the marketing campagin

2007-10-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 13:32 +1300, Graham wrote: Hi Louis, Frankly I think we're going about this the wrong way. What the project needs to do is to come up with a campaign. Costs, targets, goals and methodologies and then present that to all the corporate partners for a contribution

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:12 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that OOo vendors hav e a hard time justifiying the product and the brand. Not sure why not for

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 01:28 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:22:49 -0500, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how come Dell can put Ubuntu (with OOo in its machines and Lenovo is considering doing it for laptops?) Canonical - so as long as you have some stable

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 08:44 +0200, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do it. System builders might not get money for installing MS Works, but they might get

RE: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Ian Lynch
the smilies :-) What about a link to the OpenOffice download on the desktop as a first pass? I think OEM's would be much more receptive to this first step. -Original Message- From: Ian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:07 PM To: dev

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:31 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:12:27 -0500, Graham Lauder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful conference. I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign proposals

[Marketing] [Fwd: OOXML Digg]

2007-09-19 Thread Ian Lynch
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Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Fwd: Call For Presentations - SCALE 6x

2007-09-14 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 18:19 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Of particular interest, given the marketing priorities we've identified for OOo2.3, is this: ... newly added for SCALE 6X is a Friday conference on education: “Open Source in Education” which focuses on opportunities for Open

Re: [Marketing] Re: [documentation-dev] Article: Open-source strategy: Documentation = dollars

2007-09-14 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 12:41 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Interesting article: Open-source strategy: Documentation = dollars, by Matt Asay http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9774567-16.html Here is a quote from the article: People don't visit a software

Re: [Marketing] Announcement: IBM Joins the OpenOffice.org Community

2007-09-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 08:21 -0400, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: On 2007-09-10, at 07:57 , Vitor Domingos wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Finally! IBM's way to say we love ODF :) ... not, We love OpenOffice.org? :-) Why can't they love both? ;-) Ian -- New QCA

Re: [Marketing] Announcement: IBM Joins the OpenOffice.org Community

2007-09-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 15:37 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hi, Alexandro Colorado a écrit : On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:36:01 -0500, Lars Noodén [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: A Press Release was issued this morning to announce that IBM are joining the OOo

Re: [Marketing] Announcement: IBM Joins the OpenOffice.org Community

2007-09-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 22:56 +0900, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi list, On 9/10/07, Charles-H. Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome IBM! Yes, Indeed! Please help me translate the very last sentence of the FAQ: ODF use dwarfs the use of OOXML. :) Can you use more words to explain what it

Re: [Marketing] Announcement: IBM Joins the OpenOffice.org Community

2007-09-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 16:05 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Wonder how long before Microsoft join the OOo community ;-) Oh, I bet this will be a delicious moment... Maybe Google and Oracle would be more likely sooner:-) Imagine Sun, IBM, Google and Oracle combining forces for an open

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-09-09 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 15:58 +1200, Graham Lauder wrote: It seems we were caught out a bit by SUN's generosity. For instance Aug 31 is the end of my financial year so I wasn't able to participate in the initial stages of the discussion. I think that probably holds true for a number of

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-09-09 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 12:50 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, According to Florian's first mail he said online AND offline. So we're back to just online ads now. yes, this particular fact has changed. Sorry for the confusion. Many of us would absolutely love to be able focus

Re: [Marketing] Finalizing current Marketing Campaign

2007-09-07 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 14:40 +1200, Graham Lauder wrote: Times Educational Supplement? Cost depends on the size of the ad but it is likely to be less expensive to send a flyer to every school and ask them to display it on their staffroom noticeboards. A full page ad would cost several

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-09-07 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 01:02 +1200, Graham wrote: USB drives are a different kettle of fish. You might be able to find some supplier who happens to have a warehouse full of old obselete 128 mb drives that he'd be wiling to part with for $3 or $4 per unit for 1000, but that would be without

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-09-07 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 23:24 -0400, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi On 2007-09-06, at 06:59 , Ian Lynch wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 17:49 -0400, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: No reason not to focus on specific regions, especially if we are building for future grass-roots efforts. So

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-09-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 17:49 -0400, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: No reason not to focus on specific regions, especially if we are building for future grass-roots efforts. So, let's do it, and if it doesn't work for this particular quarter, we can likely use it some other time. I think we

Re: [Marketing] Finalizing current Marketing Campaign

2007-09-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 17:36 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello everyone, and first of all a big thank you to everyone involved in the constructive discussions! I see that a lot of great and interesting ideas have been brought up and now it's time to finalize the campaign in order to

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-09-05 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 22:41 -0400, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi On 2007-09-04, at 12:25 , Ian Lynch wrote: big snip If you want a resource for teaching about open standards I have produced a Moodle course at http://theingots.org/moodle/mod/resource/view.php?inpopup=trueid=30

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-09-04 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 23:37 -0400, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Florian has suggested some specific targets. Let's narrow it even further. My preference is education Just a bit of a tangent but might be of interest. Here is a message I got from a head of IT in a school this morning. I will be

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