Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-14 Thread Otto Fowler
Excellen Ahmed, that is just the kind of thing that I would think the
community would like to see.


On December 14, 2017 at 14:56:07, Ahmed Shah (ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
wrote:

Hello,


For the user meeting we (GCR) could volunteer demoing our dashboard (if
screen sharing is possible) and let everyone one know how we use Metron.


Our project is here:

https://github.com/LTW-GCR-CSOC/csoc-installation-scripts/


-Ahmed
___
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>



From: Laurens Vets 
Sent: December 14, 2017 11:24 AM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Cc: James Sirota
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings


Sounds good to me :)

On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> Ok,
>
> So we will be concerned with two types of meetings. I’ll take
> responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
>
> Dev meetings
> - feedback on how things are going overall
> - discussions on specific technical problems
> - discussion of possible improvements
>
> User meetings
> - demos
> - user content ( how I’m using metron )
> - some unavoidable discussion on problems
> - some requirements gathering triage
>
> ALL
> - I will call
> - I will gather input for agenda
> - I will distribute the agenda
> - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
> - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
> - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> decisions
>
>
>
> How does that sound?
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsir...@apache.org)
> wrote:
>
> I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give
> PMC
> members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not
> be a
> problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than
> jump
> around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it
> explicitly
> clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and
> are
> not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If
> we
> want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to
> be in
> its own separate meeting.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" :
>> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>>
>> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
>> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>
>> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the
>> call
>> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We
>> would
>> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>>
>> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve
>> had
>> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which
>> is a
>> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
>> need
>> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>> On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and
>>> make
>>> sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>>
>>> Just a friendly reminder...
>>> It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent
>>> out
>>> describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>> No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this
>>> gives
>>> others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>>
>> decisions.
>>> If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I do.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>>
>>>>> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Sim

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-14 Thread Ahmed Shah
Hello,


For the user meeting we (GCR) could volunteer demoing our dashboard (if screen 
sharing is possible) and let everyone one know how we use Metron.


Our project is here:

https://github.com/LTW-GCR-CSOC/csoc-installation-scripts/


-Ahmed
___
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>



From: Laurens Vets 
Sent: December 14, 2017 11:24 AM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Cc: James Sirota
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings


Sounds good to me :)

On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> Ok,
>
> So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
> responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
>
> Dev meetings
>  - feedback on how things are going overall
>  - discussions on specific technical problems
>  - discussion of possible improvements
>
> User meetings
>  - demos
>  - user content ( how I’m using metron )
>  - some unavoidable discussion on problems
>  - some requirements gathering triage
>
> ALL
>  - I will call
>  - I will gather input for agenda
>  - I will distribute the agenda
>  - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
>  - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
>  - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> decisions
>
>
>
> How does that sound?
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsir...@apache.org)
> wrote:
>
> I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give
> PMC
> members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not
> be a
> problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than
> jump
> around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it
> explicitly
> clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and
> are
> not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If
> we
> want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to
> be in
> its own separate meeting.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" :
>> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>>
>> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
>> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>
>> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the
>> call
>> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We
>> would
>> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>>
>> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve
>> had
>> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which
>> is a
>> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
>> need
>> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and
>>> make
>>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>>
>>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent
>>> out
>>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this
>>> gives
>>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>>
>> decisions.
>>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>>  si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>>
>>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>>  si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That se

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-14 Thread Kyle Richardson
gt;>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
> > >>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  Simon
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler 
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> > >>>>>  si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most
> > >>>>> in
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>>>>  past.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Simon
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler 
> > > wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
> > >>>>  ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
> > >>>>>>  wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  Hello,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
> > >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  -Ahmed
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  ___
> > >>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> > >>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> > >>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> > >>>>>>  Carleton University -
> > >>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  
> > >>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler 
> > >>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> > >>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
> > >>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We
> > >>>>>> may
> > > be
> > >>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if
> > >>>>>> we
> > >>>>>  spread
> > >>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of
> > >>>>>> whom
> > >>
> > >> have
> > >>>>  a
> > >>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
> > >>
> > >> welcome
> > >>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I
> > >>>>>> can
> > > use
> > >>>>  to
> > >>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a
> > >>>>>> suitable
> > >>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
> > >>>>  alternative,
> > >>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
> > >>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
> > >>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  Anything else?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  ottO
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > James Sirota
> > > PMC- Apache Metron
> > > jsirota AT apache DOT org
> >
> --
>
> Jon
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-14 Thread zeo...@gmail.com
er a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most
> >>>>> in
> >>
> >> the
> >>>>>  past.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Simon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler 
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
> >>>>  ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
> >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  -Ahmed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  ___
> >>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> >>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> >>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> >>>>>>  Carleton University -
> >>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler 
> >>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> >>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
> >>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We
> >>>>>> may
> > be
> >>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>  spread
> >>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of
> >>>>>> whom
> >>
> >> have
> >>>>  a
> >>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
> >>
> >> welcome
> >>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I
> >>>>>> can
> > use
> >>>>  to
> >>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a
> >>>>>> suitable
> >>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
> >>>>  alternative,
> >>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
> >>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
> >>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Anything else?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  ottO
> >
> > ---
> > Thank you,
> >
> > James Sirota
> > PMC- Apache Metron
> > jsirota AT apache DOT org
>
-- 

Jon


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-14 Thread Laurens Vets


Sounds good to me :)

On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:

Ok,

So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.

Dev meetings
 - feedback on how things are going overall
 - discussions on specific technical problems
 - discussion of possible improvements

User meetings
 - demos
 - user content ( how I’m using metron )
 - some unavoidable discussion on problems
 - some requirements gathering triage

ALL
 - I will call
 - I will gather input for agenda
 - I will distribute the agenda
 - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
 - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
 - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
decisions



How does that sound?


On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com)
wrote:

+1


On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsir...@apache.org) 
wrote:


I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give 
PMC
members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not 
be a

problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than 
jump
around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it 
explicitly
clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and 
are
not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If 
we
want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to 
be in

its own separate meeting.

Thanks,
James

13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" :

I am ok with just notes and no recording.

On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:

Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the 
call
to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We 
would

definitely need someone to step up as note taker.

Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve 
had
meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which 
is a
great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We 
need

to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.

Simon


 On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:

 Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and 
make

 sure that doesn't violate anything.

 Just a friendly reminder...
 It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent 
out

 describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
 No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this 
gives

 others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the


decisions.

 If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)

 On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
 si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:


 Yes, I do.

 I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
 apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.

 Simon

 On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler  
wrote:


 Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?

 On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
 si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:

 Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most 
in


the

 past.

 Simon


 On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler 

wrote:


 Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.

 On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (

 ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)

 wrote:

 Hello,

 wrt "- How are we going to host it"...

 I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.

 It is LGPL open source.

 https://bigbluebutton.org/
 https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/

 -Ahmed

 ___
 Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
 Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
 GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
 Carleton University - 
cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>


 
 From: Otto Fowler 
 Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
 To: dev@metron.apache.org
 Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

 I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We 
may

be
 better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if 
we

 spread
 out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of 
whom


have

 a

 lot on their plate already.

 I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would


welcome

 anyone else who wants to help when they can.

 The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I 
can

use

 to
 hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a 
suitable

 alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly

 alternative,

 in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.

 So - from what I can see we need to:

 - Talk through who is going to do it
 - How are

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-14 Thread Otto Fowler
Ok,

So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.

Dev meetings
 - feedback on how things are going overall
 - discussions on specific technical problems
 - discussion of possible improvements

User meetings
 - demos
 - user content ( how I’m using metron )
 - some unavoidable discussion on problems
 - some requirements gathering triage

ALL
 - I will call
 - I will gather input for agenda
 - I will distribute the agenda
 - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
 - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
 - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
decisions



How does that sound?


On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwa...@gmail.com)
wrote:

+1


On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsir...@apache.org) wrote:

I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give PMC
members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not be a
problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than jump
around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it explicitly
clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and are
not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If we
want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to be in
its own separate meeting.

Thanks,
James

13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" :
> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>
> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>
> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need
> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>
> Simon
>
>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:
>>
>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>
>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>
> decisions.
>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>
>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>  si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>
>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>
>>>  Simon
>>>
>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>
>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>  si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
>
> the
>>>>  past.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler 
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>  ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>
>>>>>  ___
>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>  Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-13 Thread Otto Fowler
+1


On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsir...@apache.org) wrote:

I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give PMC
members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not be a
problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than jump
around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it explicitly
clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and are
not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If we
want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to be in
its own separate meeting.

Thanks,
James

13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" :
> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>
> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>
> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
need
> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>
> Simon
>
>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:
>>
>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>
>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>
> decisions.
>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>
>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>  si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>
>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>
>>>  Simon
>>>
>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler 
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>
>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>  si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
>
> the
>>>>  past.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler 
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>  ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>
>>>>>  ___
>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>  Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>

>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler 
>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>
>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may
be
>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>>>  spread
>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom
>
> have
>>>  a
>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>
> welcome
>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can
use
>>>  to
>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>  alternative,
>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>
>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>
>>>>>  ottO

---
Thank you,

James Sirota
PMC- Apache Metron
jsirota AT apache DOT org


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-13 Thread James Sirota
I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give PMC 
members rights to the room.  I think hosting these meetings should not be a 
problem.  I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes after 
the meeting.  It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than jump around in a 
recording.  As Simon mentioned, I would also make it explicitly clear that the 
meetings are dev meetings.  These are not user Q&A and are not meant to be 
overviews of how different features of Metron work.  If we want to do feature 
demos or provide user content I would want that to be in its own separate 
meeting.

Thanks,
James 

13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" :
> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>
> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>
> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need
> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>
> Simon
>
>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:
>>
>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>
>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>
> decisions.
>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>
>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>  si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>
>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>
>>>  Simon
>>>
>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>
>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>  si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
>
> the
>>>>  past.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>  ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>
>>>>>  ___
>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>  Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler 
>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>
>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>>>  spread
>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom
>
> have
>>>  a
>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>
> welcome
>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
>>>  to
>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>  alternative,
>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>
>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>
>>>>>  ottO

--- 
Thank you,

James Sirota
PMC- Apache Metron
jsirota AT apache DOT org


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-13 Thread Otto Fowler
I am ok with just notes and no recording.


On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:

Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
definitely need someone to step up as note taker.

Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need
to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.

Simon

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:
>
> Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
> sure that doesn't violate anything.
>
> Just a friendly reminder...
> It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
> describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
> No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
> others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
decisions.
>
> If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I do.
>>
>> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>>>
>>> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>
>>>
>>> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>
>>> Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
the
>>> past.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>> ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>
>>>> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>
>>>> It is LGPL open source.
>>>>
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Ahmed
>>>>
>>>> ___
>>>> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Otto Fowler 
>>>> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>> To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>
>>>> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>>>> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>> spread
>>>> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom
have
>> a
>>>> lot on their plate already.
>>>>
>>>> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
welcome
>>>> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>
>>>> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
>> to
>>>> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>> alternative,
>>>> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>
>>>> - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>> - How are we going to host it
>>>> - When are we going to do it
>>>>
>>>> Anything else?
>>>>
>>>> ottO
>>
>>


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-13 Thread Simon Elliston Ball
Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call to 
record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would 
definitely need someone to step up as note taker. 

Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had 
meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a great 
thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need to make it 
clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive. 

Simon

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay  wrote:
> 
> Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
> sure that doesn't violate anything.
> 
> Just a friendly reminder...
> It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
> describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
> No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
> others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the decisions.
> 
> If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I do.
>> 
>> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>> 
>>> Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
>>> past.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>> ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>> 
>>>> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>> 
>>>> It is LGPL open source.
>>>> 
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Ahmed
>>>> 
>>>> ___
>>>> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Otto Fowler 
>>>> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>> To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>> 
>>>> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>>>> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>> spread
>>>> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have
>> a
>>>> lot on their plate already.
>>>> 
>>>> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
>>>> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>> 
>>>> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
>> to
>>>> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>> alternative,
>>>> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>> 
>>>> - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>> - How are we going to host it
>>>> - When are we going to do it
>>>> 
>>>> Anything else?
>>>> 
>>>> ottO
>> 
>> 


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-12 Thread larry mccay
Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
sure that doesn't violate anything.

Just a friendly reminder...
It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the decisions.

If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)


On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote:

> Yes, I do.
>
> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>
> Simon
>
> > On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler  wrote:
> >
> > Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> >
> >
> > On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> > si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> >
> > Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
> > past.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
> >>
> >>
> >> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
> ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> >>
> >> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> >>
> >> It is LGPL open source.
> >>
> >> https://bigbluebutton.org/
> >> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> >>
> >>
> >> -Ahmed
> >>
> >> ___________
> >> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> >> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> >> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> >> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Otto Fowler 
> >> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> >> To: dev@metron.apache.org
> >> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> >>
> >> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> >> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
> > spread
> >> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have
> a
> >> lot on their plate already.
> >>
> >> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> >> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> >>
> >> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
> to
> >> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> >> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
> alternative,
> >> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> >>
> >>
> >> So - from what I can see we need to:
> >>
> >> - Talk through who is going to do it
> >> - How are we going to host it
> >> - When are we going to do it
> >>
> >> Anything else?
> >>
> >> ottO
>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-12 Thread Simon Elliston Ball
Yes, I do. 

I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the apache.org 
<http://apache.org/> metron site.

Simon

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler  wrote:
> 
> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> 
> 
> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> 
> Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
> past.
> 
> Simon
> 
>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>> 
>> 
>> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>> 
>> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>> 
>> It is LGPL open source.
>> 
>> https://bigbluebutton.org/
>> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>> 
>> 
>> -Ahmed
>> 
>> ___
>> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Otto Fowler 
>> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>> To: dev@metron.apache.org
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>> 
>> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
> spread
>> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
>> lot on their plate already.
>> 
>> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
>> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>> 
>> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
>> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
>> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>> 
>> 
>> So - from what I can see we need to:
>> 
>> - Talk through who is going to do it
>> - How are we going to host it
>> - When are we going to do it
>> 
>> Anything else?
>> 
>> ottO



Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-12 Thread Otto Fowler
Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?


On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
si...@simonellistonball.com) wrote:

Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
past.

Simon

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler  wrote:
>
> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>
>
> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)

> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>
> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>
> It is LGPL open source.
>
> https://bigbluebutton.org/
> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>
>
> -Ahmed
>
> ___
> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>
>
> ____________
> From: Otto Fowler 
> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: dev@metron.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>
> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
>
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>
>
> So - from what I can see we need to:
>
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
>
> Anything else?
>
> ottO


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-12 Thread Simon Elliston Ball
Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the past.

Simon

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler  wrote:
> 
> Thanks!  I think I’d like something hosted though.
> 
> 
> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> 
> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> 
> It is LGPL open source.
> 
> https://bigbluebutton.org/
> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> 
> 
> -Ahmed
> 
> ___
> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> 
> 
> ________
> From: Otto Fowler 
> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: dev@metron.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> 
> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
> 
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> 
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> 
> 
> So - from what I can see we need to:
> 
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
> 
> Anything else?
> 
> ottO



Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-12 Thread Otto Fowler
Thanks!  I think I’d like something hosted though.


On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmeds...@cmail.carleton.ca)
wrote:

Hello,

wrt "- How are we going to host it"...

I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.

It is LGPL open source.

https://bigbluebutton.org/
https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/


-Ahmed

___
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>



From: Otto Fowler 
Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
lot on their plate already.

I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
anyone else who wants to help when they can.

The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.


So - from what I can see we need to:

- Talk through who is going to do it
- How are we going to host it
- When are we going to do it

Anything else?

ottO


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-12 Thread Ahmed Shah
Hello,

wrt "- How are we going to host it"...

I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.

It is LGPL open source.

https://bigbluebutton.org/
https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/


-Ahmed

___
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
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From: Otto Fowler 
Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

I think that we all want to have regular community meetings.  We may be
better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
lot on their plate already.

I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
anyone else who wants to help when they can.

The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
hold the meeting.  So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
alternative.  I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.


So - from what I can see we need to:

- Talk through who is going to do it
- How are we going to host it
- When are we going to do it

Anything else?

ottO


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-11 Thread Otto Fowler
This looks like it *might* work, but no recording, and 40mins?

https://zoom.us/pricing



On December 11, 2017 at 20:37:00, zeo...@gmail.com (zeo...@gmail.com) wrote:

I think this is a great idea. Hangouts works well but last I checked has a
user # limitation. I don't have any other good suggestions, sorry, but I'm
in to attend.

Jon

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 16:42 Otto Fowler  wrote:

> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
>
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>
>
> So - from what I can see we need to:
>
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
>
> Anything else?
>
> ottO
>
-- 

Jon


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-11 Thread zeo...@gmail.com
I think this is a great idea.  Hangouts works well but last I checked has a
user # limitation.  I don't have any other good suggestions, sorry, but I'm
in to attend.

Jon

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 16:42 Otto Fowler  wrote:

> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings.  We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
>
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting.  So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative.  I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>
>
> So - from what I can see we need to:
>
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
>
> Anything else?
>
> ottO
>
-- 

Jon


[DISCUSS] Community Meetings

2017-12-11 Thread Otto Fowler
I think that we all want to have regular community meetings.  We may be
better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
lot on their plate already.

I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
anyone else who wants to help when they can.

The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
hold the meeting.  So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
alternative.  I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.


So - from what I can see we need to:

- Talk through who is going to do it
- How are we going to host it
- When are we going to do it

Anything else?

ottO