Re: AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 03/11/2018 01:45 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: > It is like rumors works. It is as it is. Some one said smth and > everyone is thinking omg. Me too, but for me it is clear now. One person in particular on the users list is making a fuss over it (saying re. Subversion that we should "discourage its

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Christian Lenz
It is like rumors works. It is as it is. Some one said smth and everyone is thinking omg. Me too, but for me it is clear now. Von: Geertjan Wielenga Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:42 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN I don't get it, at all. :-

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
t; > Von: Banee Ishaque > Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:37 > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN > > A suggestion : Remove SVN from core - and make it available as a official > plug in.Then if we need SVN - simply add a plug in is enough.

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:37 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN A suggestion : Remove SVN from core - and make it available as a official plug in.Then if we need SVN - simply add a plug in is enough. In years ago - I used SVN and hg for VCS. But

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Banee Ishaque
e in > NetBeans, > > > but the Problem was one of the components hase license Problems. > > > Von: Emilian Bold > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:15 > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN > > > > &

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
t is still available in > NetBeans, > > > but the Problem was one of the components hase license Problems. > > > Von: Emilian Bold > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:15 > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Betreff: Re: Possible Remo

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Stephen Stewart
ag, 11. März 2018 19:15 > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN > > > > Could the OP provide a link where it was decided to drop Subversion? I > > just don't remember this talk. But, I might have missed it. > > >

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:15 > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN > > Could the OP provide a link where it was decided to drop Subversion? I > just don't remember this talk. But, I might have missed it. > > From what Jan m

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Christian Lenz
As I understand it right, the SVN Support is still available in NetBeans, but the Problem was one of the components hase license Problems. Von: Emilian Bold Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:15 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN Could the OP provide a

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
Could the OP provide a link where it was decided to drop Subversion? I just don't remember this talk. But, I might have missed it. >From what Jan mentions, only a Java SVN library was dropped but I think we can >still have Subversion support by calling the svn native binary? Obviously, being st

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, installed via a plugin. Gj On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Gary Bello wrote: > I don't understand - It is available in my Netbeans 8.2 Team dropdown. > Perhaps installed from plugin - is that not part of Netbeans ? > > -Gary > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 1:36 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertj

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-09 Thread Gary Bello
I don't understand - It is available in my Netbeans 8.2 Team dropdown. Perhaps installed from plugin - is that not part of Netbeans ? -Gary On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 1:36 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:16 AM, emiddio-frontier > wrote: >

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:16 AM, emiddio-frontier wrote: > my vote is keep both CVS and SVN . > We can't keep something that already isn't kept. CVS has not been part of NetBeans for several years now. We can decide to reintroduce it, though I wonder if there's a need for that. Gj > > -Gar

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-09 Thread emiddio-frontier
my vote is keep both CVS and SVN . -Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Delfi Ramirez
Hi all In agreed with Mathias and others, and taking in consideration the specific end purpose use of SVN i would not remove,  support of Subversion in Net beans. IF it depends on this solely opinion, being an outlier too. cheers On 08/03/2018 15:29, Paul Franz wrote: There has been a disc

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:11:14 +0100, Wade Chandler wrote: +1 +1 As others, I have customers using it with some projects, and they will probably stay with SVN for those projects until they die... -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "We make Java work. Everywhere." htt

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > > On 03/08/2018 09:44 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> I agree completely Subversion should stay as a standard part of NetBeans. >> CVS, on the other hand, which has been a separate module for several years >> now, is IMHO not something we shou

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 08.03.2018, 14:33 + schrieb Mark Struberg: > tons of companies and projects are still using SVN. Also new > projects. > While git is great, it is also very easy to destroy a GIT repo.This > is a major reason why some companies still prefer SVN.The other > argument is se

Re: AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Dave Irving
, please, don’t do that. Cheers Chris Von: Antonio Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 16:09 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN Hi there, As far as I remember the support of svn in NetBeans was due to licensing issues. This has nothing to do with who uses

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Jan Lahoda
FWIW, IIRC, NetBeans is using different backends to work with SVN repositories, and one of the backends is has a license[1] that is possibly/probably incompatible with an Apache project, so that one was excluded: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/commit/e32f86aeecc1b0bb890ff95ed7e1c31c6d

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 03/08/2018 09:44 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > I agree completely Subversion should stay as a standard part of NetBeans. > CVS, on the other hand, which has been a separate module for several years > now, is IMHO not something we should give high priority. +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registere

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Christian Lenz
Ok, thx for clarification. Von: Geertjan Wielenga Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 16:44 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN Just for the record, Oracle did not remove Ruby and UML support from NetBeans. Sun did that. Was there a mean spirited nefarious

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
gt; Cheers > > Chris > > Von: Antonio > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 16:09 > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN > > Hi there, > > As far as I remember the support of svn in NetBeans was due to licensing > issues. This has noth

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Christian Lenz
Offtopic, we should also Support TFS (Team foundation Server from MicroSoft). Von: Christian Lenz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 16:23 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: AW: Possible Removal of SVN I’m really against the idea to remove such a big Feature. Mercurial, SVN and GIT

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Christian Lenz
:09 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN Hi there, As far as I remember the support of svn in NetBeans was due to licensing issues. This has nothing to do with who uses subversion or not. FreeBSD, as an example, has been using/is using subversion successfully

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Antonio
Hi there, As far as I remember the support of svn in NetBeans was due to licensing issues. This has nothing to do with who uses subversion or not. FreeBSD, as an example, has been using/is using subversion successfully for years. Kind regards, Antonio On 08/03/18 15:29, Paul Franz wrote: The

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Scott Palmer
I agree that it is too early to remove support for Subversion. I also agree that the best alternative to it is Mercurial. (It’s like Git meant for use by for humans ;-)) I would hate to see support for either dropped. Scott > On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Paul Franz wrote: > > There has been a d

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Mark Struberg
tons of companies and projects are still using SVN. Also new projects. While git is great, it is also very easy to destroy a GIT repo.This is a major reason why some companies still prefer SVN.The other argument is security. SVN is strictly centralised and file based. So you cannot take the whol

Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Paul Franz
There has been a discussion going on in the NetBeans Users list about removing support for SVN. And it was recommended to bring up the topic here. Just to give me 2 cents into the thought of removing Subversion support from NetBeans. I am against it just because older FLOSS projects and of co