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2018-03-16 Thread Dmitry Avtonomov
mail.com> > Gesendet: Freitag, 16. März 2018 04:52 > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Images & bugs was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java > UI instead of > > Hello Dmitriy, > One more note. Your images didn't make it through. Probably they

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2018-03-16 Thread toni.epple
com> Gesendet: Freitag, 16. März 2018 04:52 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Images & bugs was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of Hello Dmitriy, One more note. Your images didn't make it through. Probably they were blocked by the mailing list filter. >

Images & bugs was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-15 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Hello Dmitriy, One more note. Your images didn't make it through. Probably they were blocked by the mailing list filter. > elect: File -> New Project -> JavaFX -> Java HTML5 Application (again, only > because I knew from this thread where to click) > Read description: "Generates a WebView based

Re: AW: AW: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-15 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 15, 2018 06:19, "Christian Lenz" wrote: I break with swing, because of the Mantisse Editor. It is ok but Needs enhancements. And I’m fast to create UIs and with JS the binding etc. I think some of the issues with at least some web development is the need to have

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2018-03-15 Thread Christian Lenz
: Donnerstag, 15. März 2018 03:56 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of On Mar 13, 2018 08:39, "Christian Lenz" <christian.l...@gmx.net> wrote: There are big players out there. And why I love e

Re: AW: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 13, 2018 08:39, "Christian Lenz" wrote: There are big players out there. And why I love electron? Because it is fucking HTML, CSS and JS AND for the Backend too. This eco system was build for fullstack developers, who wants to create desktop applications with

Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-14 Thread Dmitry Avtonomov
I find it incredible that Jaroslav is saying "... people aren't willing to dedicate 10minutes of their personal time to try HTML/Java API in action ...". How are they supposed to discover that? Let's try it out with time logging: 15:33 - Setting out to search for NetBeans on google, landed on

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2018-03-14 Thread toni.epple
t- Von: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 09:45 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Jaroslav Tulach <jaroslav.tul.

Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Zoran Sevarac
ML4j, because this is the only best solution to create scalable UIs > with webtechnologies for NetBeans. I don’t have any other approach to work > with HTML4J as for NetBeans. For the rest I use Electron or pure WebApp > stuff. My famous last words. > > Cheers > > Von: Jaros

Re: My Personal UI Rant, Was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Chuck Davis
Scott, thanks for saying it so well. I absolutely loathe and despise trying to get any real work done with a browser interface. On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Scott Palmer wrote: > Sometimes I think the world has gone crazy. > > Here are a few simple observations: > -

Re: My Personal UI Rant, Was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Bernd Ruehlicke
Scott, you are writing what my heart also was telling me. Still, it never occurred to me to look at anything which had he letters "HTML" in their api's as I always link this to "web" and my app is super heavy non-web-desktop-app-monster-size-local-file-reading-not-usually-associated-to-browser

My Personal UI Rant, Was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Scott Palmer
Sometimes I think the world has gone crazy. Here are a few simple observations: - JavaFX is the best UI tech that Java has going for it these days. - Swing/AWT has been heading towards obsolescence for several years now. It works, but the future of desktop UI with Java is JavaFX. - HTML is a

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2018-03-13 Thread Christian Lenz
I use Electron or pure WebApp stuff. My famous last words. Cheers Von: Jaroslav Tulach Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 09:26 An: Apache NetBeans Betreff: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of Thanks a lot for your opinions! I am going to react to one recurring theme

Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Chuck Davis
[2] does not build on release 219 with jdk9 > [1] Plus few minutes of Maven plugins initial download time... > [2] Have you noticed that the wizard ("New Project", "JavaFX", "Java HTML5 > Application") is written in HTML UI? I hope the transition from the Swing > to the HTML UI was smooth enough

Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Antonio
Hi all, Some comments inlined below: On 13/03/18 09:26, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: Thanks a lot for your opinions! I am going to react to one recurring theme in this email... 2018-03-12 16:59 GMT+01:00 Jaroslav Tulach : Forget about AWT, Swing and JavaFX - the future

Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Hermien Pellissier
Hi Jaroslav, Waiting for the maven downloads as I write. :) Are there any tutorials or other cool documents out there about Apache HTML/Java UI? ~ Hermien On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > Thanks a lot for your opinions! I am going to

Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 at 08:26 Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > > heavyweight, ...(but)... the open source nature ... of Electron make it > potentially an attractive option for mixed Java/HTML applications > > I was looking at an example project using Vaadin running inside

Re: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > > > > I was looking at an example project using Vaadin running inside Electron > recently. Have you tried this approach with HTML/Java? > > ...and trying Electron samples! C'mon do you have recent version of >

Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-13 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Thanks a lot for your opinions! I am going to react to one recurring theme in this email... 2018-03-12 16:59 GMT+01:00 Jaroslav Tulach : > > Forget about AWT, Swing and JavaFX - the future is HTML. In case you still > care about Java, then your future should be Apache