Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:43:05 -0700 Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > I think there is nothing wrong with this additional tag. It makes > sense. > > The 9.0 tag has been created and uploaded to the GitHub repository. Thank you very much -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpZFce2mw_8E.pgp Description:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, nice, and it makes sense, and if this helps to solve this, excellent too. We could/should revisit the -vc naming, I think -- maybe for the next release, and try to follow the Apache way of doing this, to avoid this confusion. Gj On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 9:43 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
I think there is nothing wrong with this additional tag. It makes sense. The 9.0 tag has been created and uploaded to the GitHub repository. On 10/12/2018 11:22 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:07:45 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Just bear in mind that we're new to

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread John Yeary
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Re: JIRA question

2018-10-12 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/07/2018 06:54 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > What does it mean when you try to attach a file (e.g. a stack trace) to > an issue and get the message "JIRA could not attach the file as there > was a missing token. Please try attaching the file again"? I was logged > in to JIRA when I saw this.

NETBEANS-1359

2018-10-12 Thread Glenn Holmer
I filed issue 1359 (self-profiling hangs when stopped under JDK 11): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1359 and I wonder if someone could help me figure it out. I traced it by running NetBeans under the debugger: SelfSamplerAction.actionPerformed() creates an

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You already do know the reason why. I told you already -- in the NetBeans ecosystem, a 'release candidate' is something different to what it is in Apache. I can explain it all, but there's no point -- we didn't want to confuse things and we were confused ourselves, since again, all of this is new

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:47:23 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > I don't think there's a need to point to Wikipedias about what a > software release cycle is, do you? :-) I was just trying to express any wiki page I would create on netbeans tagging would follow that format _dev, _alpha, _beta,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:31:53 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > No one imposed anything. No, contacting mentors and discussing with > individual people off-thread is not how Apache projects work. > > We have a long history in NetBeans outside Apache where we used the > term 'release candidate' to

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
No one imposed anything. No, contacting mentors and discussing with individual people off-thread is not how Apache projects work. We have a long history in NetBeans outside Apache where we used the term 'release candidate' to mean something very different to how it is used in Apache, i.e., an

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:21:17 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > I think the main problem we're trying to solve with the -vc tag is > this: what happens when we start a vote thread and the vote fails for > some reason? Then we need to make a new voting candidate and start a > new vote thread. How

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:07:45 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Just bear in mind that we're new to all this. Can you tone down your > exasperation and try to bear that in mind? Sorry, but I have repeatedly brought up this issue.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I think the main problem we're trying to solve with the -vc tag is this: what happens when we start a vote thread and the vote fails for some reason? Then we need to make a new voting candidate and start a new vote thread. How do we name these artefacts, i.e., how do we distinguish between them?

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Just bear in mind that we're new to all this. Can you tone down your exasperation and try to bear that in mind? I think we should definitely revisit this, if it's causing problems and confusion, we could start a new thread to discuss this. Also, can you join this mailing list, right now I have

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:48:46 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > See the below: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/692fee91f7e24dcfffa099593c758772216d130c21ca97c689a294f8@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E > > We've ended up following guidance from our mentors, there are simply > too many

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
See the below: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/692fee91f7e24dcfffa099593c758772216d130c21ca97c689a294f8@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E We've ended up following guidance from our mentors, there are simply too many conflicting points of view throughout Apache. The craziness had to stop and so

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:14:58 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > No YES > the Apache terminology is voting candidate. Just because Apache terminology is voting candidate. That does not mean it should be tagged as such. I package quite a few Apache projects. NONE use this crazy format of -vc*.

Issue with maven depentencies

2018-10-12 Thread Alexius DIAKOGIANNIS
Hi, I have stumbled upon this strange issue. I am installing a jar from console, for example mvn install:install-file -Dfile=wlclient.jar -DgroupId=com.oracle.weblogic -DartifactId=wlclient -Dversion=12.1.3.0 -Dpackaging=jar When I building from Netbeans 8.2 maven cannot resolve the