RE: AW: Case sensitive in directory name it is a issue

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi all:

Case sensitive is  a mandatory directive in folders [ considered as 
Internationalized Resource Identifiers (IRIs) ] and or timestamps namespaces  
UUID URN Namespaces

https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt

https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4122.txt

may this be the issue? 

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Piotr Hoppe
Sent: 10 August 2018 08:21
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: AW: Case sensitive in directory name it is a issue

This issue occurs for:

- NetBeans 9.0

- PHP projects

- Mac OS high Sierra 10.13.6 with case sensitive APFS partition.


W dniu 10.08.2018 o 09:18, Christian Lenz pisze:
> Which operating System do you have? For Windows, it is one Directory. If you 
> have MyProjectFolder and myprojectfolder, it is the same.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Piotr Hoppe
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. August 2018 21:30
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Case sensitive in directory name it is a issue
>
> When you have in the project two directories with the same name but one
> of them uses lowercase letters and the second uses the uppercase letter,
> for example backend and Backend, so these name are differ only size of
> letters.
> Then in the project tree you can see only one of this directories with
> them content.
>
> In the project tree It should be visible both directories.
>
> Earlier, I have already reported a similar problem
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=268044
>
> This issue occurs in the NetBeans 9.0 when I works on the PHP projects.
>

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RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi John, Hi all:

Same issue, uh, no group found. At G

uh



Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Josh Juneau
Sent: 08 August 2018 12:43
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Cc: John Kostaras
Subject: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Hi John,

Hope you are well.  I tried to search for the google group <
netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some
reason.  Can you please send an invite?

Thanks

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo 
wrote:

> Hello  John,
> I vote for :
>
>   *google group mailing list : <
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com>
>   *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   *and zoom for the realtime chat
>
> Constantin Drabo
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : John Kostaras 
> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>following:
>   - slack channel
>   - google group mailing list
>   
>   - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>   NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   - other (please advise)
>- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>   - an Apress book
>   - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
>   what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>   - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
> wiki)
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
> John.
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
> available
> > now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> > contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
> >
> > To answer your questions:
> >
> > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> > added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
> >
> > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> > great idea.
> >
> > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide
> accounts)
> > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
> >
> > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> > Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
> >
> > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
> >
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> > >
> > > Please consider
> > >
> > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> > support, jshell, etc."
> > >
> > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due
> to
> > the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> > through git collab
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Delfi Ramirez
> > >
> > > Segonquart Studio
> > >
> > > https://segonquart.net
> > >
> > > From: John Kostaras
> > > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> > >
>

RE: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi Emilian:

Please what do you mean by “hook them up”? I may be able, not sure, to  assist 
you in the matter if needed

cheers

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Emilian Bold
Sent: 07 August 2018 13:36
To: Jim Jagielski
Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org; alawy.ah...@gmail.com; 
d...@netbeans.apache.org; e...@apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

I also have macOS machines I could use here. I just don't know how to hook them 
up as official Apache NetBeans build slaves.

--emi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On 7 August 2018 3:17 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> If we lack the slaves, I can sign up to do the community builds, as I do for 
> AOO.
>
> > On Aug 3, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch.INVALID 
> > wrote:
> > We have an existing JIRA issue for this, the author should also create a 
> > GitHub PR.
> > Making the DMG is indeed quite nice. I also have a 20 line shell script to 
> > do it for NEXTbeans Retina.app
> > The problem next is pushing this to infra, adding a builds task and getting 
> > mac build slaves for Jenkins.
> > --emi
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On 31 July 2018 4:42 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you!
> > > Yes, being able to use your script in order to create community builds
> > > of NetBean would be a major help! Even better, as you say, would be
> > > it being donated to the ASF to allow it to be bundled with the project
> > > as well. Even though it is licensed under the ALv2, and we could just
> > > "fold it in", we normally do not use code unless the copyright
> > > holder of the code is OK with us doing so.
> > >
> > > > On Jul 30, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Ahmed Alawy alawy.ah...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Good Morning,
> > > > I was giving this email address by Emilian Bold, on Twitter. It seems 
> > > > that
> > > > he's suggesting that this package could be included in the dev/release
> > > > process of your product.
> > > > It was a package that I put together to run netbeans, as I found it 
> > > > quite
> > > > annoying to have to traverse to the bin directory to run it, while I can
> > > > click XCode, Eclipse or any similar app.
> > > > I am working on providing a shell-script that will create this package;
> > > > sorta automating the packaging process now that I know how to build it
> > > > manually. Once it's ready I will make it available on the same github 
> > > > link.
> > > > Please let me know what I need to join/assist in making this MacOS part 
> > > > of
> > > > the netbeans release process.
> > > > Thanks for taking the time to read my email.
> > > > Ahmed
> > >
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
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RE: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi Emilian:

Please what do you mean by “hook them up”? I may be able, not sure, to  assist 
you in the matter if needed

cheers

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Emilian Bold
Sent: 07 August 2018 13:36
To: Jim Jagielski
Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org; alawy.ah...@gmail.com; 
d...@netbeans.apache.org; e...@apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

I also have macOS machines I could use here. I just don't know how to hook them 
up as official Apache NetBeans build slaves.

--emi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On 7 August 2018 3:17 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> If we lack the slaves, I can sign up to do the community builds, as I do for 
> AOO.
>
> > On Aug 3, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch.INVALID 
> > wrote:
> > We have an existing JIRA issue for this, the author should also create a 
> > GitHub PR.
> > Making the DMG is indeed quite nice. I also have a 20 line shell script to 
> > do it for NEXTbeans Retina.app
> > The problem next is pushing this to infra, adding a builds task and getting 
> > mac build slaves for Jenkins.
> > --emi
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On 31 July 2018 4:42 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you!
> > > Yes, being able to use your script in order to create community builds
> > > of NetBean would be a major help! Even better, as you say, would be
> > > it being donated to the ASF to allow it to be bundled with the project
> > > as well. Even though it is licensed under the ALv2, and we could just
> > > "fold it in", we normally do not use code unless the copyright
> > > holder of the code is OK with us doing so.
> > >
> > > > On Jul 30, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Ahmed Alawy alawy.ah...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Good Morning,
> > > > I was giving this email address by Emilian Bold, on Twitter. It seems 
> > > > that
> > > > he's suggesting that this package could be included in the dev/release
> > > > process of your product.
> > > > It was a package that I put together to run netbeans, as I found it 
> > > > quite
> > > > annoying to have to traverse to the bin directory to run it, while I can
> > > > click XCode, Eclipse or any similar app.
> > > > I am working on providing a shell-script that will create this package;
> > > > sorta automating the packaging process now that I know how to build it
> > > > manually. Once it's ready I will make it available on the same github 
> > > > link.
> > > > Please let me know what I need to join/assist in making this MacOS part 
> > > > of
> > > > the netbeans release process.
> > > > Thanks for taking the time to read my email.
> > > > Ahmed
> > >
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme

Please consider

"* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, 
jshell, etc."

To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to the 
fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or through 
git collab

cheers


Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: John Kostaras
Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Hallo again,

and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
needed in a better way.

In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider in
my opinion.

   1. *How we can cooperate.*
  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in order
  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of authors
  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
  2. I have also created a google group (
  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I
  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
interested in
  contributing).
  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
we can keep
  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
wiki that
  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand mentions that
  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
   2. *Book structure*
  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
  Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
  Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
  Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
  2. We need to decide what will these 5x3 = 15 chapters are going to
  be and who writes what.
  1. E.g. thanks to Oliver:
 2. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8
   https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide
 - new language support
 - some available language additions
 - useful available external plugins
 3. Thanks to Milos here is a lot of material on NetBeans Platform
 Cookbook <http://wiki.netbeans.org/BookNBPlatformCookbook> which
 we could use as a base for some chapters rewriting them to NB
9 (again for
 Part 2)
 4. I 'll do a search and provide a list of all available NetBeans
 books published so far, so that we could have an idea what
has been out
 there, and maybe give more ideas for chapters.

Here is a very draft proposal of the various chapters, but we could discuss
of course:

*Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans*
Chapter 1: What is NetBeans. A short history of NetBeans. Apache NetBeans.
Distinction of NetBeans platform and NetBeans IDE. New features support in
version 9. How do download and install Apache NetBeans 9
Chapter 2: Getting Started with NetBeans. Layout, editing files and
projects, tips and tricks
Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, jshell etc.
Chapter 4: Running, debugging, profiling applications
Chapter 5: Developing desktop applications (Swing and JavaFX)

*Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans*
Chapter 6: Introduction to NetBeans RCP. Core, UI
Chapter 7: Module System, File System, Lookup
Chapter 8: Window system, Actions, Nodes and Explorers, HTML/UI
Chapter 9: Extras, Visual Library, Dialogs, etc.
Chapter 10: Writing a NetBeans plugin

*Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans* *(a lot of material can be found
in our cwiki <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/>)*
Chapter 11: Overview of how NetBeans 9 is hosted in Apache, infrastructure:
Apache JIRA, Confluence, wiki etc.
Chapter 12: Apache mailing list, Apache NetBeans web page
Chapter 13: NetCAT, synergy
Chapter 14: How to download and build Apache NetBeans 9 from sources;
Chapter 15: How to contribute (fixing bugs, articles, web site, NETCAT,
writing plugins); what needs to be done (e.g. code donations etc.)

I look forward your feedback.

Regards,

John.


On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 14:38, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Broadly, I think such a book should be split into three parts, each of
> which could be split into about 5 chapters:
>
> Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
> Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
> Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
>
> Gj
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Delfi Ramirez  wrote:
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Agreed there is the  need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.
> >
> > Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written,  of a
> > single translator for the whole community content.
> >
> > Even everyo

RE: Interested in virtual meetups to discuss and synchronize?

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi Gert, Hi all:

Interested, sure. Count me in.

Zoom or Skype ( @segonquart )  work well for me.

Warm Regards

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: 31 July 2018 13:36
To: dev
Subject: Interested in virtual meetups to discuss and synchronize?

Hi all,

Discussions and processes here are quite slow via e-mail.

Are some people interested in virtual meetups to discuss and synchronize,
e.g., via Zoom or Skype?

Basically, maybe every 2nd week, we could meet and whoever wants to could
join in.

The topics would be:

- Progress of Apache NetBeans, e.g., we could discuss the next release, etc.

- Any other issues, e.g., Peter Nabbefeld could ask about his
Wicket/NetBeans work, which would speed things up on his end.

Following Apache rules, nothing could be decided in this virtual call,
since everything in Apache needs to be decided on the mailing lists.

However, to cut to the chase and to quickly discuss urgent items and to
synchronize for different people working on the same task, this could be
useful.

Thanks,

Gj

RE: [Mentors] Advice on branding of Apache NetBeans book

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1 )

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Bertrand Delacretaz
Sent: 23 July 2018 10:15
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Mentors] Advice on branding of Apache NetBeans book

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 5:20 AM Emilian Bold
 wrote:
...
> I think you start with reading https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ ..

Yes and there's a specific section for books,
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#books

-Bertrand

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RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Emilian:

Efforts al almost done thanks to the dedicated work don past months by the 
community. Of which non of us get paid for that, either because of it is part 
of our daily procedure, either because it is in the nature of human beings to 
help one each other.
.
The leader of this project, named printed and digital book [ physical object ] 
should unify and resolve any difference in style , allowing each author to 
write and collab without restriction. We are all adults and this is not a 
personal project, but a community driven project.

Every author must know the limits, characters, and styles the book requires. 
Before she/he sends or writes one sub chapter. The book is a companion ,a gift, 
to a community and to an audience. In writing a book, besides the legal 
property rights, which method of  license you may know if you ever have signed 
a professional contract with a software development company.

Not sure if “bumby” defines a great and crafted piece written by a collection 
of experts .

Josh: There is also pending the offers of translators, I guess Chinese 
mandarin, german, Spanish are on the way.

Cheers



Some of the chapters proposed and defined by Gert, are already covered and 
written in past efforts.

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Emilian Bold
Sent: 21 July 2018 08:39
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

I would be interested in a book but I'm curious what kind of effort this 
involves? How much time does a book generally take (I know, it's not an exact 
science, but any time range helps)?

If we publish a book as a group we should think about the fact that the tone / 
style of each chapter might come out differently. Perhaps the editor takes care 
of unifying this? Also, some people might drop out.

I assume there is no real money to be made in books, correct?

I also doubt it makes much business sense even as a self-promotion, so it's 
more a labour of love.

--emi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On 17 July 2018 11:58 PM, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> I've just briefly touched base with Apress on the idea and the editor I spoke 
> to sounds very interested. He says that they can divide the book up amongst 
> any number of authors, and also do bylines for each of the chapters so that 
> the respective authors will be noted. Typically in this situation there is 
> one person who acts as the lead on the project. That way the editors and 
> project coordinators at Apress can work with the lead, rather than all of the 
> separate authors.
> 
> Anyone interested in taking lead on the book? If so then I can get you in 
> touch with the editor and we can get the details of each author/chapter, etc. 
> worked out.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Josh Juneau
> 
> juneau...@gmail.com
> 
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> 
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> 
> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 AM, Delfi Ramirez del...@delfiramirez.info wrote:
> > 
> > +1 Huang Kai 
> > 
> > A wonder of myself to the community. Is there exist any intention or 
> > interest to include JSF in the topics -- chapters, subchapters -- of the 
> > book?
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Delfi Ramirez
> > 
> > Segonquart Studio
> > 
> > https://segonquart.net
> > 
> > From: huang kai
> > 
> > Sent: 17 July 2018 10:30
> > 
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > 
> > Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
> > 
> > Hi, all
> > 
> > I live in china and have been using netbeans for swing and java ee dev
> > 
> > for about 10 years. I think I can help translate the book to chinese,
> > 
> > let's make this great platform speading more faster.
> > 
> > cheers.
> > 
> > Kain Huang
> > 
> > > On 7/16/2018 7:53 PM, Delfi Ramirez wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi All:
> > > 
> > > Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.
> > > 
> > > Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of a 
> > > single translator for the whole community content.
> > > 
> > > Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we 
> > > may able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this 
> > > world wide world we live in
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > 
> > > Delfi Ramirez
> > > 
> > > Segonquart Studio
> > > 
> > > https://segonquart.net
> > > 
> > > From: Oliver Rettig
> > > 
> > > Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47
> > > 
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > &g

RE: [Mentors] Advice on branding of Apache NetBeans book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi Walter:

I speak on behalf of myself, but I am pretty sure  the mentoring community will 
agree : 

Apache Netbeans runs under the Apache license, that is the license involved 

Netbeans 9 differs subtly from previous versions. If in doubt, please, read the 
wiki, all the doubts that may arise about logostypes and/or trades are 
explained briefly in there

Hope it helps.

Cheers



,Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Walter Nyland
Sent: 20 July 2018 20:56
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [Mentors] Advice on branding of Apache NetBeans book

Hi mentors,
We're updating https://leanpub.com/nbp4beginners.
We want to:
-- use the name "Apache NetBeans" and "Apache NetBeans Platform" instead of 
"NetBeans" and "NetBeans Platform"
- use the Apache NetBeans logo
Is this allowed? Must any text be added to the book to allow this? Any 
licensing involved?
Thanks,
Walt

RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi John, Hi all:

As mentioned by Pete et al, the agreement on an Apache License, should not be a 
problem for a publisher company. Based on experience no other reason

said that, below some mumbles and personal guessing’s, to your kind 
consideration


• The use of a collaborative tool ( authoring collaboration environments )  to 
print the result, is your decision.

• The main structure of the book as clearly defined by Gert, weeks ago.  Three 
main branches or chapters.

• The license and contract that featured authors may sign with the publisher, ( 
For example : “It is true that author have, and one else has, written chapter 
number nine” ) shall be written in a formal mode before the publishing. Each 
author and/or collaborator shall have all the third-party permissions required 
before he/she presents the paper/chapter. Other authors and companies should be 
credited, too.

• Errata and other classical editorial stuff should be in charge of the 
publisher.

• Designer of the book ( cover, back cover, typography, et al ) should be also 
credited, and work hand in hand with the leader – this is you – of the printed 
collab project.

• There shall be indicated as footnotes, as an annex, or in the most feasible 
way, links and or URIs where the reader and consumer of the book, who is the 
final and most important part of this project, can extend or acquire the 
information given by our community.

• As a tool of single communication between humans, and supported by  the wiki 
, besides personal interests, the printed book should be viewed a gift and a 
need for the reader or our targeted audience, being us just producers of 
content delivered.

• It shall be both oriented to the expert and the newbie, and those two areas 
may have to be clearly indicated.


• Openness and opened doors to future members , highly recommended, shall be 
also promoted


Your turn.

Cheers




Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: John Kostaras
Sent: 20 July 2018 09:47
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

Yes, one of the first questions with Apress will be if they have some
authoring collaboration environment
or if they would accept a book written using the Apache collaboration model.



On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 12:44, Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:16 AM Delfi Ramirez 
> wrote:
> > ...I understand that each collaborator will arrange and make a cession,
> written and signed, of his
> > contribution to the community, and of course will have permission of
> his/her contractor – if there
> > is such a personal scenario – on behalf the community
>
> FWIW the Apache collaboration model enables this, so if the NetBeans
> (P)PMC decides that the book content is just part of the NetBeans
> project all these mechanisms are available.
>
> The unknown in this case is whether a book producer would agree to
> print that book, as the Apache License allows anybody to do that (with
> due credit etc. and respecting Apache trademarks) so they wouldn't be
> protected against competition.
>
> And authors wouldn't make money (do they anyway?) but "just" get
> reputation by having contributed to that effort. Which might be worth
> more, actually, even from a business point of view ;-)
>
> -Bertrand
>
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RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Agreed Bertrand, 

that’s the way we worked with Perl docs in that old golden days, if my memory 
serves me well.

Content included in the last conversation, addressed to all, had only a single 
purpose, the intention to provide formal data and processes, dealed by agencies 
or publishers normally, that could resolve the doubts arisen, if any, on the 
publication and contractual obligations of a printed book, under the Apache 
License.

It is my understand, that the first action to carry out with the responsible of 
the project, the leader who will trace the path, will be to accord an agreement 
between the community and the publisher, for this to define the content,  [ how 
we mange updates, how they are related to the printed book, how many words 
should have an specific section, what about the screen captures, which content 
should be extended and which one leave as is, et cetera ] . I understand the 
publisher Is who kindly offers to invest his own resources to spread and 
finance the product [ object]

Said that, Every collaborator, in order to avoid possible inconveniences of 
particular origin,  shall be responsible of their own content, ensure is well 
formatted and  includes no mistakes. I understand that each collaborator will 
arrange and make a cession, written and signed, of his contribution to the 
community, and of course will have permission of his/her contractor – if there 
is such a personal scenario – on behalf the community.

Cheers

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Bertrand Delacretaz
Sent: 19 July 2018 11:17
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:25 PM Delfi Ramirez  wrote:
> ...Money you pay for a physical book covers the expenses of print, logistics 
> ( storage , delivering)
> and marketing. It also covers the licenses and , if accorded, the rights of 
> the publisher

There are many examples of tech books available for free online, and
also available for a fee in printed form.

For example:

  https://producingoss.com and http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007591.do
  https://git-scm.com/book/ and
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Git-Scott-Chacon/dp/1484200772

-Bertrand

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RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi all, Hi Pete:

I guess, there may be a previous formal written contract between the writers ( 
our community) and the publishing company, (APress or whoever).

If any of the writers ( code is text, text are strings, remember) has a formal 
contract with his/her software company he/she should ask for the permission to 
act on her/his personal behalf.

Money you pay for a physical book covers the expenses of print, logistics ( 
storage , delivering)  and marketing. It also covers the licenses and , if 
accorded, the rights of the publisher.

Et cetera.

Hope it helps.

Cheers



Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Peter Steele
Sent: 18 July 2018 20:17
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

I had a look at Apress and there are quite a few books on netbeans (one
already that uses Netbeans 9 for its demos!). They all cost money
(unsurprisingly), I was wondering how that would fit in to a community
written book?

I don't have any expertise to add myself (I'm kind of waiting till things
stabilise to a standard development life cycle before investing some time
in to adding enhancements) but was interested in how it would work.

Is it better to actually just write a free book? Or do Apress bring a lot
to the venture?

On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:22 Mario Schroeder,  wrote:

> Hi Miloš,
>
> that what you describe is what I also thought about. I got an book about NB
> too, but the samples there don't use the annotations and some classes are
> even deprecated. So an update to the latest version of the platform would
> be great. I could be your copilot if you need help in reviews and
> correction.
>
> Regards,
> Mario
>
> Miloš Šilhánek  schrieb am Mi., 18. Juli 2018,
> 17:54:
>
> > Hi,
> > I was been interested some years ago in NetBeans Platform. I organized
> > translation from English to Czech and cowrote a NetBeans Platform
> > Cookbook
> > which were not realized - it is on NB wiki pages.
> >
> > So I leaved it - because of time and the need of application based on NB
> > Platform disappears in my work.
> > Now is all by browser. :-(. But NBP is suitable for many application as
> > the
> > showcase shows.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The book was made for NB 6.9.1 and tested for 7.1. Many features were
> > moved
> > to annotations in this time. We both had no time to upgrade it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My English is poor so I could upgrade these examples or test new
> examples.
> >
> > Milos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Původní e-mail --
> > Od: Delfi Ramirez 
> > Komu: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <
> dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > Datum: 16. 7. 2018 13:56:18
> > Předmět: RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
> > "Hi All:
> >
> > Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.
> >
> > Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of a
> > single translator for the whole community content.
> >
> > Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we
> > may
> > able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this world
> > wide world we live in
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Delfi Ramirez
> >
> > Segonquart Studio
> >
> > https://segonquart.net
> >
> > From: Oliver Rettig
> > Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I like the idea of a community-written book very much. This can encourage
> > people to join
> > our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project ...
> > For me the
> > community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and
> > rarely with eclipse.
> >
> > I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5:
> >
> > https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/
> >
> > and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is:
> > better not to write
> > such books alone.
> >
> > It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a community-written
> > Netbeans book, or
> > may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to have
> > a
> > german
> > version.
> >
> > But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific
> > communities typically you
> > have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a
> lot
> > of work: to defines the
> > chapters/ar

RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1 Huang Kai 

A wonder of myself to the community. Is there exist any intention or interest 
to include JSF in the topics -- chapters, subchapters -- of the book?

Cheers

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: huang kai
Sent: 17 July 2018 10:30
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

Hi, all

I live in china and have been using netbeans for swing and java ee dev
for about 10 years. I think I can help translate the book to chinese,
let's make this great platform speading more faster.

cheers.

Kain Huang


On 7/16/2018 7:53 PM, Delfi Ramirez wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Agreed there is the  need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.
>
> Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written,  of a 
> single translator for the whole community content. 
>
> Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we may 
> able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this world wide 
> world we live in
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Delfi Ramirez
>
> Segonquart Studio
>
> https://segonquart.net
>
> From: Oliver Rettig
> Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I like the idea of a  community-written book very much. This can encourage 
> people to join 
> our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project ... For 
> me the 
> community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and rarely 
> with eclipse.
>
> I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5:
>
> https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/
>
> and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is: better 
> not to write 
> such books alone.
>
> It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a community-written 
> Netbeans book, or 
> may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to have a 
> german 
> version.
>
> But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific 
> communities typically you 
> have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a lot of 
> work: to defines the 
> chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to push the 
> authors to deliver 
> in the timeline.
>
> An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience with 
> the Tomcat 
> book was that the publisher was a really great help in formatting and 
> proofreading. And a 
> publisher can be a very big help in invertising for apache netbeans.
>
> But it should be also possible to write the book without a publisher at our 
> own. In this case 
> we can have an open-pdf-Version of the book. Maye we can have this too with a 
> publisher?
>
> best regards
> Oliver
>
>
>> I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache
>> NetBeans.  I personally do not have enough time to devote to another book
>> right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer
>> group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book
>> (perhaps a collaborative effort).
>>
>> I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress that
>> the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but maybe a
>> book project could start this fall.  There are no timelines right
>> now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE.
>>
>> If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list of
>> names together to send along to Apress.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Josh Juneau
>> juneau...@gmail.com
>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
>
>

RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Agreed in the main structure

Do not see clear, yet the five chapters of the 3 part

++1

Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: 16 July 2018 14:38
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

Broadly, I think such a book should be split into three parts, each of
which could be split into about 5 chapters:

Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans

Gj

On Monday, July 16, 2018, Delfi Ramirez  wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> Agreed there is the  need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.
>
> Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written,  of a
> single translator for the whole community content.
>
> Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we
> may able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this
> world wide world we live in
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Delfi Ramirez
>
> Segonquart Studio
>
> https://segonquart.net
>
> From: Oliver Rettig
> Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
>
> Hi all,
>
> I like the idea of a  community-written book very much. This can encourage
> people to join
> our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project ...
> For me the
> community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and
> rarely with eclipse.
>
> I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5:
>
> https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/
>
> and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is:
> better not to write
> such books alone.
>
> It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a community-written
> Netbeans book, or
> may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to have
> a german
> version.
>
> But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific
> communities typically you
> have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a lot
> of work: to defines the
> chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to push
> the authors to deliver
> in the timeline.
>
> An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience with
> the Tomcat
> book was that the publisher was a really great help in formatting and
> proofreading. And a
> publisher can be a very big help in invertising for apache netbeans.
>
> But it should be also possible to write the book without a publisher at
> our own. In this case
> we can have an open-pdf-Version of the book. Maye we can have this too
> with a publisher?
>
> best regards
> Oliver
>
>
> > I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache
> > NetBeans.  I personally do not have enough time to devote to another book
> > right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer
> > group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book
> > (perhaps a collaborative effort).
> >
> > I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress that
> > the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but maybe a
> > book project could start this fall.  There are no timelines right
> > now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE.
> >
> > If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list
> of
> > names together to send along to Apress.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
>
>
>

RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi All:

Agreed there is the  need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.

Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written,  of a single 
translator for the whole community content. 

Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we may 
able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this world wide 
world we live in

Cheers


Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Oliver Rettig
Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book

Hi all, 

I like the idea of a  community-written book very much. This can encourage 
people to join 
our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project ... For 
me the 
community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and rarely 
with eclipse.

I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5:

https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/

and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is: better 
not to write 
such books alone.

It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a community-written 
Netbeans book, or 
may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to have a 
german 
version.

But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific communities 
typically you 
have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a lot of 
work: to defines the 
chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to push the 
authors to deliver 
in the timeline.

An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience with the 
Tomcat 
book was that the publisher was a really great help in formatting and 
proofreading. And a 
publisher can be a very big help in invertising for apache netbeans.

But it should be also possible to write the book without a publisher at our 
own. In this case 
we can have an open-pdf-Version of the book. Maye we can have this too with a 
publisher?

best regards
Oliver


> I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache
> NetBeans.  I personally do not have enough time to devote to another book
> right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer
> group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book
> (perhaps a collaborative effort).
> 
> I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress that
> the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but maybe a
> book project could start this fall.  There are no timelines right
> now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE.
> 
> If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list of
> names together to send along to Apress.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate2]

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: chegekinut...@gmail.com
Sent: 06 July 2018 14:15
To: d...@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate2]

+1
On 2018/07/06 08:50:38, Emilian Bold 
wrote: 
> Hi all,> 
> 
> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)!> 
> 
> If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be
started on gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then
we can release this version. This build will also undergo validation
through NetCAT.> 
> 
> Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) constitutes all the modules in the
Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform
(i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.> 
> 
> In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE
development.> 
> 
> Build artifacts available here:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2> 
> 
> The specific artifact to be voted on:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-
source.zip> 
> 
> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:> 
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md> 
> 
> SHA1: 2a54b34a343fc720c5983d48ef41467163f1a6f0> 
> 
> KEYS file:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS> 
> 
> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-vc2 :> 
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/9.0-vc2> 
> 
> Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the rat-
exclusions.txt file:> 
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbbuild/rat-
exclusions.txt> 
> 
> Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:> 
> 
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/328/artifact
/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt> 
> 
> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-bin.zip> 
> 
> Also included as a convenience binary the NBMs:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/nbms> 
> 
> New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:> 
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+
9.0+New+and+Noteworthy> 
> 
> Release specific wiki page:> 
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+
9.0+Final+Release> 
> 
> How (and what) to try out the release:> 
> 
> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.> 
> 2. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file> 
> 3. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.> 
> 4. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.> 
> 5. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8)
you'll be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install nb-
javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.> 
> 
> If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up
vote +1 in this thread.> 
> 
> Note that according to http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.htm
l#release-approval :> 
> 
> > Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED to
download all> 
> > signed source code packages onto their own hardware, verify that
they meet> 
> > all requirements of ASF policy on releases as described below,
validate all> 
> > cryptographic signatures, compile as provided, and test the result
on their> 
> > own platform.> 
> 
> Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!> 
> 
> The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.> 
> 
> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)> 
> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release> 
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...> 
> 
> Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans PPMC member, i.e., your name is on this page: http://ho
me.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#netbeans , although note the
only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
in the next vote thread, after this one passes.> 
> 
> Emilian Bold> 
> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC> 
> 
> 
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RE: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate2]

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1

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Sent: 06 July 2018 14:15
To: d...@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate2]

+1
On 2018/07/06 08:50:38, Emilian Bold 
wrote: 
> Hi all,> 
> 
> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)!> 
> 
> If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be
started on gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then
we can release this version. This build will also undergo validation
through NetCAT.> 
> 
> Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) constitutes all the modules in the
Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform
(i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.> 
> 
> In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE
development.> 
> 
> Build artifacts available here:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2> 
> 
> The specific artifact to be voted on:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-
source.zip> 
> 
> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:> 
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md> 
> 
> SHA1: 2a54b34a343fc720c5983d48ef41467163f1a6f0> 
> 
> KEYS file:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS> 
> 
> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-vc2 :> 
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/9.0-vc2> 
> 
> Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the rat-
exclusions.txt file:> 
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbbuild/rat-
exclusions.txt> 
> 
> Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:> 
> 
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/328/artifact
/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt> 
> 
> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-bin.zip> 
> 
> Also included as a convenience binary the NBMs:> 
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-
netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/nbms> 
> 
> New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:> 
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+
9.0+New+and+Noteworthy> 
> 
> Release specific wiki page:> 
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+
9.0+Final+Release> 
> 
> How (and what) to try out the release:> 
> 
> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.> 
> 2. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file> 
> 3. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.> 
> 4. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.> 
> 5. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8)
you'll be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install nb-
javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.> 
> 
> If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up
vote +1 in this thread.> 
> 
> Note that according to http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.htm
l#release-approval :> 
> 
> > Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED to
download all> 
> > signed source code packages onto their own hardware, verify that
they meet> 
> > all requirements of ASF policy on releases as described below,
validate all> 
> > cryptographic signatures, compile as provided, and test the result
on their> 
> > own platform.> 
> 
> Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!> 
> 
> The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.> 
> 
> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)> 
> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release> 
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...> 
> 
> Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans PPMC member, i.e., your name is on this page: http://ho
me.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#netbeans , although note the
only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
in the next vote thread, after this one passes.> 
> 
> Emilian Bold> 
> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC> 
> 
> 
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Re: Possible Removal of SVN

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi all

In agreed with Mathias and others, and taking in consideration the 
specific end purpose use of SVN i would not remove,  support of 
Subversion in Net beans.


IF it depends on this solely opinion, being an outlier too.

cheers


On 08/03/2018 15:29, Paul Franz wrote:
There has been a discussion going on in the NetBeans Users list about 
removing support for SVN. And it was recommended to bring up the topic 
here.


Just to give me 2 cents into the thought of removing Subversion 
support from NetBeans. I am against it just because older FLOSS 
projects and of course older internal projects for corporations use 
Subversion. So I think removing support for Subversion from NetBeans 
would be a bad overall move.


Just so that you have a little background on me. I use ClearCase and 
Subversion for the corporation I work for. For my personal projects 
located on BitBucket I use Mercurial. And for most part in both cases 
I use the command-line for most of my source code control interaction. 
So I know that I am an outlier, but my fellow developers need to GUIs 
to interact with source code control.


Paul Franz
Senior Principal Applications Engineer
Oracle Transportation Management


Forwarded message:


From: Claus Lüthje 
To: Eduard 
Cc: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:08:24 +0100

Many customers I worked with here in Switzerland still use SVN, too.
I completely understand the urge to leave SVN for eg Git, but reality 
is slower …


Claus


Am 08.03.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Eduard :

I'm using SVN.

I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would greatly 
reduce the usefulnes of NB for me.

--
Eduard

David Heffelfinger wrote:

Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers.

David

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan > wrote:





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Re: www.netbeans.org not working

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi all

works pretty well for me.


On 17/02/2018 21:16, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

It looks to me that www.netbeans.org is currently not working, but
netbeans.org does. Seems like a domain config issue, as I would have
imagined www to work?  I'm having problems into the issue tracker file
an issue at the moment, so I thought I'd report this here.  This was
tested in Chrome and Firefox on Win 10.

Thanks,
steven

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1

On 04/02/2018 15:49, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3! If
this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on
gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.

Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the modules in
the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) is a full IDE for Java
SE development.

Build artifacts available here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc3/

The specific artifact to be voted on:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc3/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip

Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which
are the same as these:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md

Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the
rat-exclusions.txt file:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt

MD5: af44cc0e8d947c468c646bdc38ebe2c1
SHA1: 96974a6c59957fb3d8ff18b9dd8a9323ddb00968

KEYS file:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-beta-rc3:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/9.0-beta-rc3

Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt

The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue
exists for solving this:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305

Other issues including the above to be resolved relating to licensing
are listed here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta+rc3

Included as a convenience is a binary, not relevant for the voting
purposes, but as a convenience only, unzip it and run it and you'll
see Apache NetBeans:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-beta-rc3/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy

Just like the Alpha release, the Beta release is focused specifically
on IP clearance:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta

Changes between rc1 and rc2 — binaries wrongly included in source zip
have been removed:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-276

Changes between rc2 and rc3 — mainly licensing related issues:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta+rc3

How (and what) to try out the Beta release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process.
4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll
be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing
terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac
directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install
nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms.

If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up,
you will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP
requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. Bugs you encounter
are irrelevant for the Beta release, after Beta, when the final
release is put together, the bug fixing will begin via the NetCAT
program.

Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!

The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary
number of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating)
[ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an
Apache NetBeans committer, i.e., your name is on this page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal, although note the
only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, i.e.,
in the next vote thread, after this one passes.

Geertjan
on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC

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Re: DevFaq wiki update

[Delfi Ramirez]

agreed with Emilian. observations



On 10/01/2018 20:03, Emilian Bold wrote:

I also vote on avoiding Confluence.


I think a static site and a wiki are somewhat orthogonal things.

I believe even the old wiki needed a login for edit.

Using a GitHub PR /might/ be good enough for the technical articles.

--emi


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: DevFaq wiki update
Local Time: 10 January 2018 8:58 PM
UTC Time: 10 January 2018 18:58
From: neilcsm...@apache.org
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 at 18:41 Matthias Bläsing mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu
wrote:


And before someone says "github will stay forever", sourceforge used
its market value for bad marketing (bundle free software with an
malware installing installer) and if enough money is offered, github
and co will go down the same way.


To be fair they have a rather different business model, but the suggestion
was made because it's easy to do now, and because it's backed by a git
repo.  It's no more reliant on GitHub than doing the bulk of managing our
source code there, and probably easier to move if need be - there are other
potential git-based wiki systems we could migrate to (eg.
https://github.com/gollum/gollum came up while looking at this), and we
could if necessary use some system for triggering a static build on commit
... but, while I agree the website should be a static site, I think a
static site and a wiki are somewhat orthogonal things.  What are the other
options for keeping the essential wiki-ness in your view?

Best wishes,

Neil





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Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org


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Re: [website] Preferred CSS framework?

[Delfi Ramirez]

hi Neal:

no difficulties for Zurb foundation, i guess. even having Ruby in mind 
is quite Java-ish .  in case of need i can upload a small tut ( visuals 
et al 9


tomorrow I will play with Prime ( for the GitHub mimesis ), to see how 
it works, and how easy is to deploy with.


I am open, yet to the best solution the incubator team decides.

regards


On 08/12/2017 23:16, Neil C Smith wrote:

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:57 PM Delfi Ramirez <del...@delfiramirez.info>
wrote:


agreed too, on concerning lighweightness. zurb Foundation is modular ,
Cons. main issue as mentioned before its dependencies on an specific JS
library.


Been looking at Foundation 6 and looks like they've addressed some of my
concerns.  This is worth a read
https://goamplifi.com/5-reasons-we-chose-bourbonneat-over-foundation-or-bootstrap/
Similar reasons to that we had for choosing Bourbon in 2015 - so pre 6.

I guess the other question then is how easy it is to integrate into the
JBake build system?

Best wishes,

Neil





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Re: [website] Preferred CSS framework?

[Delfi Ramirez]

hi Neal, dear all.

agreed too, on concerning lighweightness. zurb Foundation is modular , 
Cons. main issue as mentioned before its dependencies on an specific JS 
library.


maybe the people at Zurb be interested to get involved in the Netbeans 
Platform. sure they are open to proposals.


If we have to master the app and the site, I add two more 
libs-frameworks for consideration


 * Primer, <http://primercss.io/archive/index.html>is supporting the
   GitHub platform. easy to mimetic if that is the purpose of the
   website and JAVAFX modules  I have not tested yet,
 * if lightweight, and just the web app needs the framework, have a
   look a *Pure* https://purecss.io/layouts/ Jut 3Kb Not a fave. but.

Still, my vote goes for Foundation.

Cheers

On 08/12/2017 22:16, Neil C Smith wrote:

Hi,

Happy to work with Foundation 6 if that's what we go with, but I would like
to throw Bourbon and Neat into the discussion. I've worked with it a lot.
Much more modular and lightweight - we're NetBeans people, we're meant to
like modularity! ;-)

Best wishes,

Neil

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017, 21:01 Antonio, <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:


Excellent choice!

Thanks Delfi!

El 08/12/17 a las 21:49, Delfi Ramirez escribió:

my vote goes for *foundation 6 * too. is mature and The template system
is excellent to deploy prototypes and components is fast way and its
learning curve is easy.

Note: This framework, due to compatibility issues,  has dependencies on
jQuery libs which may be cause of security issues and bugs




On 08/12/2017 20:50, Antonio wrote:

Hi all,

Do we have a preferred CSS framework? If so, which one?

If we don't, which is your preferred one between the following ones?

- Foundation 6.
- Foundation 6.
- Foundation 6.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: Do we have a preferred color palette? A NetBeans web style guide?





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Re: [website] Preferred CSS framework?

[Delfi Ramirez]

my pleasure , Antonio

glad to be of help

cheers


On 08/12/2017 22:00, Antonio wrote:

Excellent choice!

Thanks Delfi!

El 08/12/17 a las 21:49, Delfi Ramirez escribió:
my vote goes for *foundation 6 * too. is mature and The template 
system is excellent to deploy prototypes and components is fast way 
and its learning curve is easy.


Note: This framework, due to compatibility issues,  has dependencies 
on jQuery libs which may be cause of security issues and bugs





On 08/12/2017 20:50, Antonio wrote:

Hi all,

Do we have a preferred CSS framework? If so, which one?

If we don't, which is your preferred one between the following ones?

- Foundation 6.
- Foundation 6.
- Foundation 6.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: Do we have a preferred color palette? A NetBeans web style guide?










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Re: [website] Preferred CSS framework?

[Delfi Ramirez]

my vote goes for *foundation 6 * too. is mature and The template system 
is excellent to deploy prototypes and components is fast way and its 
learning curve is easy.


Note: This framework, due to compatibility issues,  has dependencies on 
jQuery libs which may be cause of security issues and bugs





On 08/12/2017 20:50, Antonio wrote:

Hi all,

Do we have a preferred CSS framework? If so, which one?

If we don't, which is your preferred one between the following ones?

- Foundation 6.
- Foundation 6.
- Foundation 6.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: Do we have a preferred color palette? A NetBeans web style guide?





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Re: Newbie On Board!!!

[Delfi Ramirez]

agreed.

no bother at all. A sophisticated platform needs more than six hands. 
Nice proposal.



On 28/11/2017 16:14, Ioannis Torounoglou wrote:

Hello again!!!

Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!

I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.

But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help community 
help you!!!

Some people should stop production and give information to new people who want 
to get involved.

And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be 
inserted!!!

Which Operating system should I have!
Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
Info how to build (If I have to build )

PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!

J!



-Original Message-
From: Antonio [mailto:anto...@vieiro.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!

Welcome, Ioannis,

You may want to take a look at our wiki at

Wiki
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873923

Cheers,
Antonio

El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:

Hello everybody!!!

I'm new here willing to help!

I don't know where to start and what to do!

Any help will be great!

J!








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Re: Ending the @netbeans.org mailing lists.

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1


On 23/11/2017 12:06, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

We should, at some stage, put an end to the various netbeans.org mailing
lists, e.g., nbus...@netbeans.org and the dozen or so other netbeans.org
mailing lists and ensure that everyone asks questions about NetBeans on the
Apache NetBeans mailing lists instead. Jiri Kovalsky and I, who have
managed the NetBeans.org mailing lists over the years, propose we send the
following to ALL the netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of next
week.

Subject for the mail: “January 1st, 2018: End of @netbeans.org Mailing

Lists and Forum"

Text:

“If you’ve been following Oracle's Apache NetBeans donation process,
you’ll be aware that a large part of NetBeans is in Apache Git already. You
should also be aware that mailing lists are available at Apache for
purposes of discussing the development and usage of Apache NetBeans.

By means of this e-mail, we’re letting you know that as of January 1st,
2018, the @netbeans.org mailing lists will be deleted (they are archived
at netbeans.markmail.org), all references to @netbeans.org will, where
possible, be replaced with references to Apache NetBeans mailing lists, and
everyone will need to manually move to the Apache NetBeans @dev (
dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org) and Apache NetBeans @user (
us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org) mailing lists.



Anyone asking questions about the usage of NetBeans, whether for Java,
JavaScript, C/C++, or any other language or technology, as well as those
using the NetBeans APIs for developing modules and applications, will use
the Apache NetBeans @user mailing list. If and when it turns out that too
many developers of one category dominate the @user mailing list, a separate
Apache NetBeans mailing list will be created for them. The Apache NetBeans
@dev mailing list is specifically for those committed to working on the
development of Apache NetBeans itself, as well as those committed to
promoting and documenting it, via events and tutorials, etc.

Note that we will be discontinuing the web forums, i.e.,
forums.netbeans.org, and that in Apache there is no replacement for that
— Apache projects work with mailing lists only.

Hoping to see you all on the Apache NetBeans mailing lists, you’re
encouraged to move there as soon as possible and to not write to the @
netbeans.org mailing lists anymore.

Kind regards,

Geertjan & Jirka



Feedback/comments welcome. We'd like to send the above to all the @
netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of next week.

Thanks,

Gj and Jirka






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Re: Logo contest (was: NetBeans Logo (SVG))

[Delfi Ramirez]

agreed with John and Toni, the 15th looks pretty well +1

On 16/11/2017 12:22, Antonio Vieiro wrote:

Thanks all for your amendments.

I thought it would be a good idea to have a deadline, so that this
doesn't run forever, but the exact value of the deadline can of course
be adjusted to our needs.

Shall we extend this to, say, Dec. the 15th?

2017-11-16 12:18 GMT+01:00 John McDonnell :

November the 30th? Only gives 2 weeks...

What happens if we open this up to the larger community?  Blog posts
on Geertjans blog, DZone, JAX etc etc etc... will 2 weeks be enough?

Regards

John

On 16 November 2017 at 10:58, Bertrand Delacretaz
 wrote:

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Antonio Vieiro  wrote:

...I created #issue 145 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145 ...

I have added some procedural information in the description under
"Additional information inspired by the Apache Incubator logo
contest", hope this works for you guys.

-Bertrand


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Re: AW: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

[Delfi Ramirez]

No doubt at all, dear Toni.

No doubt even that your proposals and efforts,  deserve to win.

The idea behind the step is to add values ( appreciated in software 
development) as transparency and openness to the project, and to open a 
ticket to take part to get and receive inputs from a collective which 
I'm pretty sure will help and foster the Netbeans project  in a near 
future (themes and icons personalization, desktop experience et al comes 
to mind)


Kind regards

Delfi

On 16/11/2017 11:28, Antonio Vieiro wrote:

I agree on the professional team participating in the contest, and
even have some acknowledgement somewhow, but professional teams should
be warned that the dev mailing list participants are very good at
painting logos, drinking beers and having tapas of queso with anchoas
:-).

2017-11-16 9:57 GMT+01:00 Delfi Ramirez <del...@delfiramirez.info>:

Hi all:

guess it would be  nice idea to spread the "logo contest" into some
professional dedicated design teams and circles. (if Antonio does not mind)

In this way, we could attract and solidify the attention, and foster
collaboration with different sectors,  on the excellent work done by the
incubator, for people who want to join the Netbeans culture.

Just mumbling





On 16/11/2017 09:52, Christian Lenz wrote:

Sure, I think the vote or logo contest Needs to be in JIRA, I think as I can
remember.

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Von: Antonio Vieiro
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 09:50
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

I see,

I think we could start a NetBeans logo contest.

The winner will be treated to a beer and a "tapa" of "queso con
anchoas" [1] here in Madrid (travel and travel expenses not included
in the prize).

Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flacocinadeserrats.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Ftap-519x460.jpg=1

2017-11-16 9:39 GMT+01:00 Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>:

Great. Unfortunately, the vote was not that official. It was in a very early
state and only sent to the dreamteam members. I think. I wanted to create a
ticket for a vote, someone sent around some instructions whether this is the
official way or not, because I don’t know it. He sent an example of an other
logo. So creating a ticket is the official way I think?

Can someone help here again?


Cheers

Chris


Von: Antonio Vieiro
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 06:48
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

Hi,

I'm attaching a SVG version of the most voted Apache NetBeans Logo at [1]

I uploaded the SVG image there, but does not render properly (you have
to click on it).

I'll try to add 256/128/64/32/16 pngs in a few days.

Cheers,
Antonio

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo




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Re: AW: AW: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi all. hi Christian

No worries, I'm glad to know it might be of help.

Please, if this proposal (spread the logo contest to professional 
non-profit communities)  seems of interest, it will be nice to put hands 
on work. count me in.


Kind regards


No worries, it happens

On 16/11/2017 10:08, Christian Lenz wrote:

Sry, wrote to fast, I meant this 

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Von: Delfi Ramirez
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 09:58
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

Hi all:
guess it would be  nice idea to spread the "logo contest" into some 
professional dedicated design teams and circles. (if Antonio does not mind)
In this way, we could attract and solidify the attention, and foster 
collaboration with different sectors,  on the excellent work done by the 
incubator, for people who want to join the Netbeans culture.
Just mumbling




On 16/11/2017 09:52, Christian Lenz wrote:
Sure, I think the vote or logo contest Needs to be in JIRA, I think as I can 
remember.

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

Von: Antonio Vieiro
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 09:50
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

I see,

I think we could start a NetBeans logo contest.

The winner will be treated to a beer and a "tapa" of "queso con
anchoas" [1] here in Madrid (travel and travel expenses not included
in the prize).

Cheers,
Antonio

[1] 
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flacocinadeserrats.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Ftap-519x460.jpg=1

2017-11-16 9:39 GMT+01:00 Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>:
Great. Unfortunately, the vote was not that official. It was in a very early 
state and only sent to the dreamteam members. I think. I wanted to create a 
ticket for a vote, someone sent around some instructions whether this is the 
official way or not, because I don’t know it. He sent an example of an other 
logo. So creating a ticket is the official way I think?

Can someone help here again?


Cheers

Chris


Von: Antonio Vieiro
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 06:48
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

Hi,

I'm attaching a SVG version of the most voted Apache NetBeans Logo at [1]

I uploaded the SVG image there, but does not render properly (you have
to click on it).

I'll try to add 256/128/64/32/16 pngs in a few days.

Cheers,
Antonio

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo







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Re: AW: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1


On 16/11/2017 09:39, Christian Lenz wrote:

Great. Unfortunately, the vote was not that official. It was in a very early 
state and only sent to the dreamteam members. I think. I wanted to create a 
ticket for a vote, someone sent around some instructions whether this is the 
official way or not, because I don’t know it. He sent an example of an other 
logo. So creating a ticket is the official way I think?

Can someone help here again?


Cheers

Chris


Von: Antonio Vieiro
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 06:48
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: NetBeans Logo (SVG)

Hi,

I'm attaching a SVG version of the most voted Apache NetBeans Logo at [1]

I uploaded the SVG image there, but does not render properly (you have
to click on it).

I'll try to add 256/128/64/32/16 pngs in a few days.

Cheers,
Antonio

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo




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Re: Clarity on NetBeans mailing lists

[Delfi Ramirez]

agreed Geertjan


On 13/11/2017 13:55, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

While Wade brings his proposal and plans for moving the NetBeans.org
website to Apache, we should I think make a change on this page:

https://netbeans.org/community/lists/index.html

I.e., a key aspect we should focus on, I propose, is not having people
write to netbeans.org mailing lists anymore.

Instead, this is the info they should have when subscribing to NetBeans
mailing lists:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate

I propose that either the first link above redirects to the second link or
that the content of the first link is completely rewritten to refer to the
new Apache mailing lists.

Thanks,

Gj



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[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating)

[Delfi Ramirez]

+1

guest it's three counting on.

cheers




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