Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-08 Thread Peter Steele
7;s impossible to be > >involved in > >>>>>> > >>>>>> anything without jumping onto GitHub. > >>>>> > >>>>> Not sure if (or why) it is impossible to be involved without > >GitHub. > >>> AFAIK

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Stephen Parry
>>>> Apache: >>>>> >>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git >>>>> >>>>> and send patches to this mailing list. (Or maybe links to patches, >if >>> this >>>>> >>>&g

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Emilian Bold
> > ...In practice we never saw a patch being discussed on the mailing list... > > Maybe you're too young for that ;-) If only... I meant the dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org mailing list. --emi > > -Bertrand > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-ma

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
ailing list. (Or maybe links to patches, if >> this >>>> >>>> list strips attachments.) >>>> >>>> My view is that we are using GitHub because it is more convenient. >>>> >>>> Jan >>>> >>>>> The

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Martin Weißhaupt
On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Peter Cheung > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Codeplex, nokia, robotVM, all dead > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Emilian Bold > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM > >

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > ...In practice we never saw a patch being discussed on the mailing list... Maybe you're too young for that ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.i

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
plain git remote is fine. We need to take care > of PRs > > > > > > > > (code review / comments). > > > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > > > > > > On 7 June 2018 9:08 AM, Chr

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Emilian Bold
fine. We need to take care of PRs > > > > > > (code review / comments). > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > > > > On 7 June 2018 9:08 AM, Christian Lenz christian.l...@gmx.net wrote: >

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Struberg
;> >> --emi >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> >> On 7 June 2018 9:08 AM, Christian Lenz wrote: >> >>> Do any of you know the plans of MS? No, so please wait and don’t be >> worry and make an Solutions, for Problems. That we Maybe n

Re: AW: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Jan Lahoda
t; worry and make an Solutions, for Problems. That we Maybe not have. > > > > Cheers > > > > Chris > > > > Von: Marc Beck > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 21:10 > > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > B

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Struberg
b: they are desperate for new material > > Just my $.02 > > From: Chuck Davis [mailto:cjgun...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 1:20 PM > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Microsoft buys GitHub > > Do we need to be reminded that IBM had a 32

Re: AW: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Emilian Bold
lans of MS? No, so please wait and don’t be worry and > make an Solutions, for Problems. That we Maybe not have. > > Cheers > > Chris > > Von: Marc Beck > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 21:10 > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Micro

AW: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Christian Lenz
Do any of you know the plans of MS? No, so please wait and don’t be worry and make an Solutions, for Problems. That we Maybe not have. Cheers Chris Von: Marc Beck Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 21:10 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Microsoft buys GitHub Amen to that

RE: Microsoft buys GitHub Rule R217

2018-06-06 Thread Marc Beck
M$ did break/mess up everything they touched. Can't see why eventually it will be different here Marc -Original Message- From: Kirk Pepperdine [mailto:k...@kodewerk.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 4:36 AM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Marc Beck
cjgun...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 1:20 PM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Microsoft buys GitHub Do we need to be reminded that IBM had a 32 bit desktop OS a year and a half before MS could muster one up? They finally (20 years late) gave Windows 10 users two huge ben

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hello all, Am Mittwoch, den 06.06.2018, 11:19 -0700 schrieb Chuck Davis: > If Git is the tool of choice I say let Apache set up it's own Git > repositories for Apache projects. it would be great if the noise on this list could get down. You obviously did not read the Email from Bertrand Delacreta

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Chuck Davis
Do we need to be reminded that IBM had a 32 bit desktop OS a year and a half before MS could muster one up? They finally (20 years late) gave Windows 10 users two huge benefits millions of us have been enjoying for more that 20 years: virtual desktops (a VERY clumsy implementation to be sure) and

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Scott Palmer
This mirrors my view of Microsoft 100%… their “success" held back the computer industry by about 10 years. I remember my fancy multitasking Commodore Amiga with sound and colour and GUI and a decent processor architecture… while MS and PCs had DOS and segmented memory, ugh. They have a track re

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
Hi Jim, >> >> John > > > I’m sorry, but as a professor who has had to spend the bulk of his teaching > career telling students to not use MS products because they don’t follow > standards, I’m on the other side, condemn the news until they prove they > aren’t the useless organization they have

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-06 Thread Tim Boudreau
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Charles Bedon wrote: > I don't think the problem is "Embrace, Extend and Extinguish" anymore. You > don't spend 7.5 billions if you don't expect some serious ROI, so they will > try to monetize the platform as much as possible (which is totally > understandable).

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Emilian Bold
> If they are playing by the rules there is nothing to worry about but > > > > > > > > everyone should be observant about what Microsoft does with GitHub in > > > > the > > > > > > > > future. > > > > > &

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Emilian Bold
n the > > > > > > future. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > 2018-06-05 14:34 GMT+02:00 Kirk Pepperdine k...@kodewerk.com: > > > > > > > I say good for GitHub.. I don’t think MS will be a problem… At le

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Efrem Mc
Hi all, I second that statement in concern. We will either look to the past of previous acquisitions or maybe this is a new directive to be open friendly. How is the X-box development community and competitors view Microsoft's entry into the game console marketplace from alpha to omega? A compan

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 06/05/2018 06:45 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > Have to say I'm a little perplexed at all the negativity surrounding the > news on this. > Yes, there will obviously be some MS tie-ins, be it Azure or Visual Studio > (Code), etc. That's exactly what people are concerned about. As Thomas Wuerthinge

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Jim Powell
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:45 PM John McDonnell wrote: > Have to say I'm a little perplexed at all the negativity surrounding the > news on this. > > I don't see the Microsoft under the Satya Nadella as comparable to > previous eras of the company. There's no way they'd buy GitHub and then > strip

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread John McDonnell
un 5, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Peter Cheung > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Codeplex, nokia, robotVM, all dead > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Emilian Bold > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread John Muczynski
___ > > > From: Emilian Bold > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm a bi

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Ognyan На  5.06.2018 в 14:58, Peter Cheung написа: Codeplex, nokia, robotVM, all dead From: Emilian Bold Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub Hello, I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Charles Bedon
esendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2018 10:15 > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Microsoft buys GitHub > > Hello, > > I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source > projects' online collaboration and tooling with their GitHub purchase: &

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Ognyan Kulev
: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub Hello, I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source projects' online collaboration and tooling with their GitHub purchase: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > The frog is boiled slowly... The ASF insists on all our repositories being mirrored on servers that we control [1] exactly for such reasons: being dependent on GitHub or any other commercial service would not work for our "we'll still be aroun

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread John Yeary
> > > — Kirk > > > > > > > On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > Codeplex, nokia, robotVM, all dead > > > > > > > > From: Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch >

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Emilian Bold
dead > > > > > > From: Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub > > > > > >

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Martin Weißhaupt
___ > > From: Emilian Bold > > Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
> From: Emilian Bold > Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub > > Hello, > > I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source > projects' online collaborat

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Peter Cheung
Codeplex, nokia, robotVM, all dead From: Emilian Bold Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub Hello, I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source projects

AW: Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2018 10:15 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Microsoft buys GitHub Hello, I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source projects' online collaboration and tooling with their GitHub purchase: https://blogs.microsoft.com/bl

Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source projects' online collaboration and tooling with their GitHub purchase: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/ I wonder if there's anything we need to rethink in terms of our