Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Jacopo, Thanks for the good work. Minor: I have added normally in a new Major Release Number is normally created every year in April. Just in case we have suddenly to change our convention regarding the date (I see no reasons but why not) For demo mainteners information:

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Apr 7, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Minor: I have added normally in a new Major Release Number is normally created every year in April. Just in case we have suddenly to change our convention regarding the date (I see no reasons but why not) Thank you Jacopo

Re: Help: Why JCR is using the Apache derby driver???

2012-04-07 Thread Francis ANDRE
Hi I finally found the problem which is in the jackrabbit core library. The jcr core method ConnectionFactory.getDriverClass is using Class.forName instead of Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader. Made an issue as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCR-3288 Francis Le 06/04/2012

Re: Help: Why JCR is using the Apache derby driver???

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Francis ANDRE francis.andre.kampb...@orange.fr Hi Mohit I tryied what you suggest and this gave the same result... ClassNotFoundException on the Derby jdbc driver. Yes anyway the last Derby jdbc driver is provided in

Re: Help: Why JCR is using the Apache derby driver???

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com From: Francis ANDRE francis.andre.kampb...@orange.fr Hi Mohit I tryied what you suggest and this gave the same result... ClassNotFoundException on the Derby jdbc driver. Yes anyway the last Derby jdbc driver is provided in

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Hans Bakker
But Apache does not prohibit it? you want to be the best pupil in the Apache school? I still think this is wrong not to mention it. Hans On 04/07/2012 11:38 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thank you Hans, the download page is intended to end users and we can't include there links to download

Re: Help: Why JCR is using the Apache derby driver???

2012-04-07 Thread Francis ANDRE
Hi I finally found the problem which is in the jackrabbit core library. The jcr core method ConnectionFactory.getDriverClass is using Class.forName instead of Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader. Made an issue as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCR-3288 Francis Le 06/04/2012

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Apr 7, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: But Apache does not prohibit it? Not in itself: but it is wrong and against the ASF policies to push the users to use unofficial versions like you are often doing (ignoring your responsibilities as a PMC member) and adding a link from that page

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Maybe, as a consensus, we can put a word about it and not a link? Jacques From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com But Apache does not prohibit it? you want to be the best pupil in the Apache school? I still think this is wrong not to mention it. Hans On 04/07/2012 11:38 AM, Jacopo

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Hans Bakker
Jacopo, thank you for your compliments, However times are changing and continuous testing and continuous deploying will take over 'approved' releases where upgrading is a nightmare Regards, Hans On 04/07/2012 03:48 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Apr 7, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Hans Bakker

// TODO: Remove this block after the next release 2010-11-29

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi, Should we not remove this block and stuff related? // TODO: Remove this block after the next release 2010-11-29 Jacques

Re: revision 1309337

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Erwan, all, I agree with you that the underlying problem should be fixed. That's why we have the issue registered in Jira. Analogous to this issue and other that have patches, that are perceived as hacks, is the waterpipe with a rip in it. While the bandaid doesn't fix the underlying problem,

Re: OFBiz slimdown jira

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Jacopo, May I suggest to set a target date for this and the other releases intended for the near future (ie 09.04.02, 10.04.02, 11.x, 12.x). This will help us to better identify issues which we intend to address per release. But it also helps us communicate to the communty, than repeat over

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4788) Move applications and components outside of the scope of the OFBIz project

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4788?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre Smits updated OFBIZ-4788: Fix Version/s: SlimDown Affects Version/s: (was: SlimDown) SVN

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-4788) Move applications and components outside of the scope of the OFBIz project

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits (Created) (JIRA)
Move applications and components outside of the scope of the OFBIz project -- Key: OFBIZ-4788 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4788 Project: OFBiz Issue

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
This is not consensus, it is a compromise. What is the purpose of mentioning that we have also a trunk (obvious) and what is the text that you would like to add there? Jacopo On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Maybe, as a consensus, we can put a word about it and not a link?

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: However times are changing and continuous testing and continuous deploying will take over 'approved' releases where upgrading is a nightmare Yeah, hopefully this will happen soon and at that point I am pretty sure that the ASF will adjust

Re: // TODO: Remove this block after the next release 2010-11-29

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Jacques, This is very cryptic. To what issue does this relate to, and to what application or component? Regards, Pierre Op 7 april 2012 11:12 schreef Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.comhet volgende: Hi, Should we not remove this block and stuff related? // TODO: Remove this

Re: Opinions wanted on r1307895

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi, I followed Scott's suggestion and added a generic EMAIL_PASSWORD EmailTemplateSetting (used to send a new password at user request). I finally kept also the previous way (in r1307895) because it allows an easier 18n of the email subject. Something is worrying me a bit. Since the service

Re: Opinions wanted on r1307895

2012-04-07 Thread Adrian Crum
Is the logged password encrypted? If yes, then I don't see a problem with it. -Adrian On 4/7/2012 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Hi, I followed Scott's suggestion and added a generic EMAIL_PASSWORD EmailTemplateSetting (used to send a new password at user request). I finally kept also the

Re: // TODO: Remove this block after the next release 2010-11-29

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Just look into *.java you will find it easily ;o) It's in WorkEffortServices.processWorkEffortEventReminder() Jacques From: Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com Hi Jacques, This is very cryptic. To what issue does this relate to, and to what application or component? Regards, Pierre Op 7

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Hans Bakker
As the Apache policies are not against it, I ask you to re-add the trunk link to the download page in order not to block the future where everybody will use the trunk in a continuous testing and continuous deploying environment avoiding the 'approved releases' upgrade nightmare Hans On

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com This is not consensus, it is a compromise. Right What is the purpose of mentioning that we have also a trunk (obvious) To relax each other positions (is that even English? :o). Meant for users for are not acquainted with open source

Re: Opinions wanted on r1307895

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Nope, I'd not have raised a warning else ;o) The user must read it at the end, it's the body part of the email in the service result Jacques From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com Is the logged password encrypted? If yes, then I don't see a problem with it. -Adrian On

Re: // TODO: Remove this block after the next release 2010-11-29

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I meant this should awake a committer, at least one person should be aware of that... Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com Just look into *.java you will find it easily ;o) It's in WorkEffortServices.processWorkEffortEventReminder() Jacques From: Pierre Smits

[jira] [Closed] (OFBIZ-4786) SFA Postal Address Broken

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (Closed) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4786?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-4786. -- Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: SVN trunk Release Branch 11.04

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-4789) Move applications and/or components from their current location to a new location in the OFBiz file hierarchy

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits (Created) (JIRA)
Move applications and/or components from their current location to a new location in the OFBiz file hierarchy - Key: OFBIZ-4789 URL:

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-4790) move example to specialpurpose

2012-04-07 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES (Created) (JIRA)
move example to specialpurpose -- Key: OFBIZ-4790 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4790 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Affects Versions: SVN trunk Reporter: Erwan de FERRIERES

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-4791) reduce example to its simple goals

2012-04-07 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES (Created) (JIRA)
reduce example to its simple goals -- Key: OFBIZ-4791 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4791 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Affects Versions: SVN trunk Reporter: Erwan de

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
I am against this, especially if it comes as an order issued by Hans: he is not in the position of being aggressive or forcing us to do what it pleases him, he doesn't have the skills, the power, the merit to rule us (not to mention me); he did it in the past just because we let him do this.

Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Anil Patel
Hi, Like lot of other stuff, I think AR and AP applications should be moved out of Ofbiz Accounting component. As such they are special purpose application, but again not core to Ofbiz application framework. I recommend we should relocate AR and AP webapplications out of Ofbiz Accounting to

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Actually I don't care much. It was mostly to find a consens er... compromise. So I let Hans handles that if he wants (no commits war please)... For those who are relatively new to this ML, we should though explain that recommnending to use trunk to users has been the inclination of OFBiz

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
+1 Jacques Anil Patel wrote: Hi, Like lot of other stuff, I think AR and AP applications should be moved out of Ofbiz Accounting component. As such they are special purpose application, but again not core to Ofbiz application framework. I recommend we should relocate AR and AP

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits
- 1 Accounts payable (AP) and accounts receivable (AP) are together with the ability to process accounting transactions the core ingredients of a good FICO solution. Without both any accountant will state that your accounting solution is worthless. Without both core accounting components you (as

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4789) Move applications and/or components from their current location to a new location in the OFBiz file hierarchy

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4789?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13249314#comment-13249314 ] Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-4789: We decided rather to use tasks and

Re: ports in test-containers.xml

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits
+1 Op 14 mei 2011 10:12 schreef Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.comhet volgende: Of course I meant only for test. I was stuck with it also when I had to run a stagging instance (manual tests) and a test instance (Continuous Integration running tests) on the same machine. Jacques

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread David E Jones
When I first saw the subject I was thinking this as well. I always wondered why those were created as separate applications, perhaps for permission reasons I suppose. In a way they make more sense as part of the accounting webapp instead of in separate ones. -David Pierre Smits wrote: - 1

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Hans Bakker
Jacopo, You removed the trunk download from the download page which was there from the start without trying to get a consensus. Sure, if everybody thinks that is way to go, than that is it. However i think seeing the the history of OFBiz where the trunk was always very reliable and where

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Rajbir Saini
I agree with David. It makes more sense to make them part of the Accounting application instead of separate application. Moving them to extra is not good idea as they are integral part of Accounting/Financial as mentioned by Pierre. Thanks, Raj On Sunday 08 April 2012 04:53 AM, David E

Re: Summary of some recent discussions around the OFBiz release roadmap and some proposals

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com Jacopo, You removed the trunk download from the download page which was there from the start without trying to get a consensus. Sure, if everybody thinks that is way to go, than that is it. However i think seeing the the history of OFBiz where

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
This makes sense indeed, so -1 for me finally Jacques From: Rajbir Saini rajbsa...@yahoo.com I agree with David. It makes more sense to make them part of the Accounting application instead of separate application. Moving them to extra is not good idea as they are integral part of

[jira] [Closed] (OFBIZ-4787) Party Manager Default Country in Update

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (Closed) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4787?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-4787. -- Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: SVN trunk Release Branch 11.04

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
But for what I understand the AR and AP applications contain alternative screens to the ones in the main accounting application. They are an effort to implement more focused/specific applications versus the more generic accounting application. So, the main accounting application should already

Re: ports in test-containers.xml

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
+1 On May 13, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Hi all, I'm planning on changing the ports for the http and https test containers. This way, tests can be runned on the Apache jenkins instance (8080 is already used). Is there anyone against these ? Cheers, -- Erwan de