Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-02 Thread Marcus
Am 01/02/2016 04:10 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 1/1/2016 1:24 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 12/31/2015 10:04 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/31/2015 11:49 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 31.12.2015 um 19:53 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi, let me

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-02 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 01.01.2016 um 22:39 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > > Meanwhile, I think it would be wonderful if on opening documents there were > *accurate* warnings that the document relies on format features that are not > supported and that will not be presented or preserved properly. (If we > preserved

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-02 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 02.01.2016 um 04:10 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: > > That is not quite the use-case I was thinking of. When collaborating, I > often need to edit a document I did not originate. Commonly, the > document will be in a Microsoft Word format, and has to be distributed > in that format. There is no

RE: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Marcus, That's an interesting idea from you and Andreas. > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 01:24 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document > with n

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 1/1/2016 1:24 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 12/31/2015 10:04 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/31/2015 11:49 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 31.12.2015 um 19:53 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi, let me say a few words on this too: I have had the autosave

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-01 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 31/12/2015 22:04, Patricia Shanahan a écrit : Isn't a lot of this the sort of information that should be being collected in Bugzilla. I am about to start searching the mail archives to see what I can learn about the history, but a single Bugzilla number would be more convenient. If you want

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-01 Thread Marcus
Am 12/31/2015 10:04 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/31/2015 11:49 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 31.12.2015 um 19:53 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi, let me say a few words on this too: I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2016-01-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 1/1/2016 3:00 AM, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 31/12/2015 22:04, Patricia Shanahan a écrit : Isn't a lot of this the sort of information that should be being collected in Bugzilla. I am about to start searching the mail archives to see what I can learn about the history, but a single Bugzilla

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The symptom that started this subthread was "There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the backup copy from being made." That seems to me to

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
My interest in the backup issue is a combination of alarm, as an Open Office user, at not being able to use automatic backup, and the thrill of the chase. I actually like tracking down really difficult intermittent bugs. I don't think I have much to contribute to the profile corruption issue. I

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Marcus
Am 12/31/2015 02:49 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus wrote: Am 12/31/2015 11:34 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: If we are really, really sure that spellchecker failure and backup failure have the same underlying cause and fix it makes sense to combine them in a single Bugzilla entry ...

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Marcus
Am 12/31/2015 12:11 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: Are you sure "Spell checker does not work" is the most appropriate title for this problem? sure, but if you think of a better wording, please do not hestate to change it. Marcus On 12/30/2015 2:41 PM, Marcus wrote: Maybe you both

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Marcus
Am 12/31/2015 11:34 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: The symptom that started this subthread was "There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked. This bug both destroys data, and prevents the

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus wrote: Am 12/31/2015 11:34 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: If we are really, really sure that spellchecker failure and backup failure have the same underlying cause and fix it makes sense to combine them in a single Bugzilla entry ... Sure, lets start with combining both. When we see

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Patricia Shanahan wrote: I don't think I have much to contribute to the profile corruption issue. Well, I can't believe it is very hard to write a Windows equivalent of $ mv ~/.openoffice/4/user ~/.openoffice/4/user.20153112-123456 and wrap it into a GUI Windows executable that adds a few

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 31.12.2015 um 19:53 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: > On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote: >> Hi, >> >> let me say a few words on this too: >> >> I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never >> experienced a problem I'd relate to this. In the contrary, it has helped >> me a

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi, let me say a few words on this too: I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never experienced a problem I'd relate to this. In the contrary, it has helped me a few times to retrieve a document I've had a problem with (such as

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Hagar Delest
Hi, I step in this interesting thread, for my 2 cents opinion. First I've never heard of an "extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked." Even if I spend much less time on the forum for some

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Max Merbald
Hi, let me say a few words on this too: I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never experienced a problem I'd relate to this. In the contrary, it has helped me a few times to retrieve a document I've had a problem with (such as losing it for some reason or other. I think

RE: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
e.apache.org > Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto > backup copy. > > My interest in the backup issue is a combination of alarm, as an Open > Office user, at not being able to use automatic backup, and the thrill > of the chase. I actually like

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/12/2015 19:49, Andreas Säger wrote: > When you save another version in foreign file format, the current document should remain the ODF source. That part is a good idea. > Foreign files should be loaded read-only and saved as ODF before editi

Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 12/31/2015 11:49 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 31.12.2015 um 19:53 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi, let me say a few words on this too: I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never experienced a problem I'd relate to this. In the

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 12/31/2015 9:24 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: I don't think I have much to contribute to the profile corruption issue. Well, I can't believe it is very hard to write a Windows equivalent of $ mv ~/.openoffice/4/user ~/.openoffice/4/user.20153112-123456 and wrap it

RE: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 13:05 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document > with no auto backup copy. > [ ... ] > As an AOO

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Marcus
be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Marcus
what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my documen

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/12/2015 02:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Is there a Bugzilla # on this? I don't know. I've forgotten who told me about it, but the consensus was that it was easier to work around it, by ensuring that both "Save AutoReceovery Information"

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Are you sure "Spell checker does not work" is the most appropriate title for this problem? On 12/30/2015 2:41 PM, Marcus wrote: Maybe you both haven't seen my previous mail in this thread yet. Therefore here an explicit pointer to the new issue: ;-)

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
is what we should be working on, if we continue to > >>>> offer the option. > >>>> > >>>> Is there a Bugzilla # on this? > >>>> > >>>>> -Original Message- > >>>>> From: toki [mailto:toki.kan

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
o write down there his analysis so > far. Then we would have a good starting point. > > Marcus > > I will do so. Rory > > >>> On 12/29/2015 6:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >>>> It sounds like that is what we should be working on, if we continue

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks for the information. Please consider adding it to the appropriate Bugzilla issue, once we have one set up. Fortunately, the current objective is to fix the bug, not recreate it. Recreating a bug is a very desirable and useful tool towards fixing it, but not always essential. Sometimes it

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Marcus
Maybe you both haven't seen my previous mail in this thread yet. Therefore here an explicit pointer to the new issue: ;-) https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126762 Marcus Am 12/30/2015 11:15 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: Thanks for the information. Please consider adding it to the

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Marcus
@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a backup copy” was not checked

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Marcus
r 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
>>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 > >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
that is what we should be working on, if we continue to offer the option. Is there a Bugzilla # on this? -Original Message- From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 12/29/2015 1:50 AM, FR web forum wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=104879 You can vote for this enhancement Although I agree with the

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: > I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a > backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( a) There is an extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently

RE: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto > backup copy. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: > > > I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create > a > > b

RE: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto > backup copy. > > On 12/29/2015 1:50 AM, FR web forum wrote: > >> I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always > create a > >> backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( >

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
[mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/12/2015 15:55, Bill M wrote: I did find in options that in Options\Load

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
t; > Is there a Bugzilla # on this? > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:08 > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Complaint Writer

Re: Complaint Writer lost 36 pages of my document with no auto backup copy.

2015-12-29 Thread FR web forum
>I did find in options that in Options\Load Save\General “Always create a >backup copy” was not checked. This should be checked by default. :( https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=104879 You can vote for this enhancement -