Re: Reporting broken download link Download fehlgeschlagen 2 x

[Emanuele]

Marcus wrote on 05/01/18 21:35:
> Am 05.01.2018 um 09:17 schrieb Henner Lotz:
>
>
> I've tested again and also today I haven't seen a problem when
> downloading OpenOffice.

Would you mind trying to download from the following sourceforge mirror?
https://netix.dl.sourceforge.net/project/openofficeorg.mirror/4.1.5/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz

I didn't pick it on purpose, it was the first download link I got from
the download page. I tried 3 times from it and the connection was always
interrupted midway (between 10 MB and 118MB).
Using another mirror (netcologne) was okay.

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Emanuele

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Re: Reporting broken download link

[Emanuele]

>From a "quick" test downloading from all the mirrors (well, not so quick
considering the 5 minutes per download times ~10 mirrors, but okay),
I've never been able to complete the download choosing "NetIX (Bulgaria,
BG)".



Marcus wrote on 29/04/16 20:24:
> Unfortunately, you haven't reported any problem in detail. From the
> debug alues below I don't see any hint for a problem. Furthermore,
> I've tested the download a second ago and also don't see a problem.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 04/29/2016 09:26 AM, schrieb FOUCOU Camille:
>> Problem description Exchange this text to describe the problem
>>
>> (What does not work? What do you expect?)
>> Browser variables   Values
>> [...]
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Re: website security certificate

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Andrea Pescetti wrote on 19/02/15 23:14:
> On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:
>> OK, next try. Still an error message?
>
> Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
> https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
> HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
> paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.

https://www.google.com/search?q=openoffice&gws_rd=ssl

1st result is: https.
Why?
Probably because since August 2014 google uses https as a ranking "signal":
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.it/2014/08/https-as-ranking-signal.html

So, even if you do not advertise the URL, google does it for you, and
you can't blame users that arrive from google and find the page broken. ;)

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Fwd: Warning from dev@openoffice.apache.org

[Emanuele]

Hi,

sorry to bother, I receive messages like the following every once in a
while (the last one was a couple of months ago).

Looks pretty similar to:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8433

I'm not sure if it is generalized or just me.

Is there anything I can do on my side?
Is it worth reporting when it happens?

Thanks.

Best regards,
Emanuele


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Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...

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Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Mdtext is not a logical structure but a presentation structure which
> basically restrict the development of mantainable websites because it
> doesnt allow the modification through CSS or JS.

hmm...
Probably we are looking at the "problem" from two very different
perspectives.
Markdown allows to define styles and ids in the markup.
It allows to use HTML (provided you don't put markdown inside html
blocks, that's query a limitations at times, but it can be worked
around) so you can add additional styles.
Yes, it doesn't allow to add classes or ids to certain elements (e.g. ul
and tables are the two I know for sure). This could be worked around
using the CMS.

> The structure there should have been something like a JSON string
> carrying the values for country, link, state, localization, Javascript
> could then parse that data, and put it on some table structure and
> loop through it.
> Something like this: http://blog.andremakram.com/?p=7
>
Sorry, I probably missed a piece of discussion, so I hope you don't mind
a question: why do you want use a JSON strings to build a table that is
already built in HTML or markdown? (Genuine question.)
I mean: I used in the download page example a json-like block, because
the resulting table was an expansion of the block (multiplied by the
number of languages IIRC), but in that case the json string and the
table would be a "1:1" match (i.e. any cell of the table would require a
corresponding entry in the json array), so I can't see exactly the
advantage of one against the other.

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Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...

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Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> That's why I was pushing for a way to keep content and style
> separated. mdtext is not a good way to store content since you are
> already setting a format. The ideal measure was to have this on a json
> file (or xml) and let Javascript generate the table (using loops and
> stuff). That way it doesnt matter if its a table or a list or an HTML
> control.

Content has to be associated in a way or another with a structure, and
mdtext gives exactly the general structure the text should have.
Then CSS defines the style.

But the md used by the Apache CMS is "extended" and supports some more
stuff.
For example, if I understood the problem right, you can do the same
thing with markdown:

 Language  | Website | Distribution
-- | 
[Afar (aa)](/aa/)   | {.fa fa-ban} |   {.fa fa-warning}

etc.

Let me put again a reference to what I think is the extended markdown
the CMS supports:
https://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/

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Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...

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Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>
>> On 7/28/14, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 07/28/2014 02:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> Am 07/28/2014 11:05 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
>>>>> Here is a sample of a sortable table (click on the header you want to
>>>>> sort).
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jza/table.html
>>>> the table will get long. So, to have it sortable is a nice advantage.
>>> yes...this is a nice feature. We have to see what happens since the page
>>> is mdtext now.
>
> I have not discovered a way to incorporate page level styles into a markup
> document aside our site-wide css located in css/ooo.css which is the "style
> definitions" for the whole site. If someone else knows any tricks, please
> let us know.

Speak in general is kind of difficult, and I may have misunderstood what
you want to achieve, but, speaking general, I can see two ways:
1) (preferred by me) in each mdtext file you should be able to specify
an bodytag that becomes an id on the body tag, with that you don't need
to use any page-specific css file, you can just prefix your styles with
#idofthepage and those will be applied only for that page,
2) (a bit of an extreme solution) create a new path in lib/path.pm for
the specific page/directory/pattern, create a new template for it and
add the necessary files to the header.

Emanuele

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Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...

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Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> On 07/28/2014 02:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 07/28/2014 11:05 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
>>> Here is a sample of a sortable table (click on the header you want to
>>> sort).
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jza/table.html
>> the table will get long. So, to have it sortable is a nice advantage.
> yes...this is a nice feature. We have to see what happens since the page
> is mdtext now.
>
>>> The glyphicons are not set yet, hopefully later.
>> Some icons could help. However, to show simply a "green" and "red" color
>> (maybe also "yellow") should do the same trick.
>>
>> Marcus
> Since our web pages are now under ALv2, I'm not sure if we can include
> Creative Commons licensed objects in them. See --
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#GPL
>
> We'd need to ask legal.
>
> Coloring the cells is certainly a simple way to go assuming it doesn't
> make things too busy.
>
>

http://glyphicons.com/license/

So, the free version is distributed under CC BY 3.0:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-96
so apparently still open, *but*:

> GLYPHICONS Halflings are also a part of Bootstrap from Twitter, and
they are released under the same license as Bootstrap.

that means: MIT, which falls under category A according to
https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a

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Re: native-lang.html suggestions now in staging...

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Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
> please have a look. The links 2, 3 and 4 do not display correctly:
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/projects/native-lang.html

Most likely is because of the bits of html present (the  and corresponding closing div wrapping the text), judging
from the fact that only the links inside this block are not processed.

> Any special need to create this as MDTEXT? Otherwise I would suggest
> to turn it back into HTML.

The reason I converted the text to md is because I find the table much
easier to handle in md rather than in html (actually it's still a bit
confusing, I should have added some spacing to align things better), but
up to you. ;)

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Re: [WWW] I think we need a redo for /download/other.html

[Emanuele]

Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> It would be better if you use the site to show it.

I'm showing you the code, not the result, because the result is an
almost exact copy of the table you already know (provided you have
javascript enabled), only in "pure" HTML (no javascript required). The
difference is that it is generated while building the site, and being
the generation the point of my comment, I published only that part.

> That said, the reason for the table is because we werent that open to
> use Javascript. We would still argue that we have a  code.
>
> Regardless if its XML, JSON or HTML or even a bash script to
> autogenerate the HTML from a sqlite datasource.

Not sure what you want to say here: is it fine with you to use js?
Then it's fine with me as well. ;-)

Emanuele

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Re: [WWW] I think we need a redo for /download/other.html

[Emanuele]

Kay Schenk wrote:
> Do to recent updates to the download logic
>
> /download/other.html
>
> still exists as an entity but its basically blank since the table no longer
> renders.
>
> According to our Google Analytics, this page has quite a number of
> references, including using it as a convenient way to show what languages
> we have releases for -- http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html.
>
>
> Should we retool this based on the new changes? Or
>
> ...  even without js, to just provide basic information like the
> native-lang name, and links over to the latest binary area for that
> language on SourceForge?
>
> Example:
> German (de)  ->
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/de/
>
> or 
>
>
Out of curiosity: the use of javascript to build the table is because
you prefer javascript or a plain html would be good as well?
Because after my digging last time, I'm pretty sure (well, I mostly did
it) that it's possible to generate the entire table during the build
adding few subs to view.pm and using some "trick".
For example I used a piece of JSON enclosed in kind of HTML tags that I
then parsed and "converted" into the table.
You can see the code at [1] it doesn't work entirely, for example the
SDK table is not built and the version in the title is not added, but
the rest is more or less working.

Emanuele

[1] https://gist.github.com/emanuele45/e7f7e73d05172da5981c

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Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

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Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>
>> What about inactive NL sites? Is there a table which list the NL
>> current status? 
> Do you mean in terms of distribution or the web sites are
> newer/standardized? In any case. we have this page--
>
>  http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html
>
> which could be edited to add a distribution status instead of the Level
> column which we no longer use. This would be a nice help if someone wants
> to work on that. Of course you can also easily navigate to a particular
> native language site from this one.

The attached is a start (in md should be easier to update later)..
Of course I don't understand most of the languages and I didn't follow
closely so I may have done some errors. ;)
Title:  OpenOffice in Native Languages
Notice:Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
   or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
   distributed with this work for additional information
   regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
   to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
   "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance
   with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
   .
 http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
   .
   Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
   software distributed under the License is distributed on an
   "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
   KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
   specific language governing permissions and limitations
   under the License.

**Categories: **[Focus Areas](accepted.html),  [Incubator 
Areas](incubator.html), [Native-Lang Confederation](native-lang.html)

## [![ ](/branding/images/language.png)] OpenOffice in Native Languages


The Native Language websites offer information, resources, and much more in a 
user's native language.

Apache OpenOffice continues to welcome participation in a  variety of ways, as 
with native language mailing lists and forums. Please visit the [Native 
Language Information](http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html) area of 
the Apache OpenOffice project to find out more about native language support 
specifically, and please see [Getting 
Involved](http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html) for additional 
information on getting involved in Apache OpenOffice.

([Legacy information for the Native Language Confederation](/native-lang/), not 
accurate for Apache OpenOffice.)


Note: The following list only includes languages that have their own website. 
For example, many of the African localizations are not listed. Please see:

  - [The download page](/download/other.html) for a list of officially released 
languages
  - [Pootle](https://translate.apache.org/) for an overview of the current 
localization status
  - [The OpenOffice source code](http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/) for 
a full list of available languages, including some that are not yet on Pootle


 Language  | Status
-- | 
[Afar (aa)](/aa/)   | under constrcution
[Albanian (sq)](/sq/) |  outdated (1.x)
[Afrikaans (af)](/af/) | outdated/broken
[Amharic (am) ](/am/)  | under constrcution
[Arabic (ar)](/ar/) |  outdated (3.4)
[Armenian (hy)](/hy/) |  outdated (1.x)
[Asturian (ast) ](/ast/) |  outdated (3.4) / external
[Azeri (az) ](/az/) | outdated
[Balochi (bal)](/bal/) |  under constrcution
[Basque (eu)](/eu/) | help needed
[Bengali (bn)](/bn/) | outdated (2.x)
[Bosnian (bs) ](/bs/) |  outdated (1.x)
[Breton (bre)](/bre/) | outdated (2.x)
[Bulgarian (bg) ](/bg/) | help needed
[Burmese (my) ](/my/) | maintained
[Catalan (ca)](/ca/) | unmaintained (help needed)
[ChiNyanja (NY)](/ny/) | under constrcution
[正體中文 Chinese (tw)](/zh-tw/) | maintained
[简体中文 Chinese (cn)](/zh-cn/) | maintained
[Czech (cs)](/cs/) | maintained?
[Croatian (hr)](/hr/) | unmaintained (help needed)
[Danish (da)](/da/) | help needed
[Dutch (nl)](/nl/) | maintained
[Dzongkha (dz) ](/dz/) | under constrcution
[Esperanto (eo)](/eo/) | unmaintained?
[Estonian (et) ](/et/) | unmaintained (help needed)
[Finnish (fi)](/fi/) | help needed
[French (fr)](/fr/) | maintained
[Friulian (fur) ](/fur/) | no idea
[Galician (gl) ](/gl/) | maintained
[Gaelic - Irish (ga) ](/ga/) | outdated (3.2)
[Gaelic - Scottish (gd) ](/gd/) | no idea
[Georgian (ka) ](/ka/) | apparently outdate (3.2)
[German (de)](/de/) | maintained
[Greek (el)](/el/) | maintained slightly outated (4.0)
[Gujarati (gu)](/gu/) | unmaintained
[Haitian Creole (ht)](/ht/) | under constrcution
[Hebrew (he)](/he/) | maintained
[Hindi (hi)](/hi/) | unmaintained (help needed)
[Hungarian (hu)](/hu/) | maintained
[Icelandic (is)](/is/)| under constrcution
[Indonesian (id) ](/id/) | unmaintained (help needed)
[Irish Gaelic (

Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

[Emanuele]

Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> ok if you can do that that{s great, just want to encourage to clean up
> the current state of the site where there are different css running
> aound on different paths that are just hard to manage and some of them
> might be deprectated. An example, would be having 4 css files on root.
> exceptions.css  home.css  sitemap.css  styles.css

Oh in that sense, yes, I agree.

The current structure is a bit funny to deal with, yes you have the file
"where you need it", but it may result in conflicts and it may not even
be so easy to find what you are looking for (it's just my feeling
though, maybe because I'm used to work with a single huge file).
See the attachment with the cleaned up code and the comments (idea
borrowed from another project I'm contributing to).

I noticed there is the possibility to specify an id for the body tag,
that is cool and may already help to target specific pages with custom
styles if needed.

I wonder also about the "local" websites (I mean the different
languages). I see... several variants in respect to both design and
content. Is there the intention to move them to a standard appearance or
just let them be with whatever style they have?

Emanuele
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/* INTRODUCTION
/* This is the standard site css.
/* If you need specific styles for a certain page, add them here in the
/* appropriate section.
/* If the section doesn't exist create one and add it to the list here below.
/* --- */
/* $CONTENTS
/*
/*		$COMMON..Common styles, tags and so on.
/*		$BOOTSTRAP...Site-wide overrides for Bootstrap standard styles.
/*		$HEADER..Styles that apply to anything above the linktree (included).
/*		$CONTAINER...The main content of each page (between header and footer).
/*		$FOOTER..There is an header, a content, and here it is the footer.
/*		$HOMEThe home page is a bit special, these are the custom styles.
/*		$PRODUCT.Tweaks for the pages in the /product/ directory.
/*		$WHY.Special class required for the "Why AOO" pages.
/*		$MEDIAQUERY..Responsive FTW!
/* --- */

/*$COMMON*/
/* - */
body {
	font-family: Helvetica, Arial, 'Liberation Sans', FreeSans, sans-serif;
	padding-top: 30px;
}
a, a:hover {
	text-decoration:underline;
}
a, a:visited, a:hover {
	color: #107EC0;
}
a img {
	border: none;
}
h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
	color: #193240;
}
h1 {
	border: 0;
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	background: 0;
	text-align: center;
}
/* @todo review on pages different than the home  */
h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
	margin: 10px 0 15px;
	padding: 5px 0;
}
table {
	border-collapse:collapse;
	margin: auto;
}
th {
	height: 40px;
	background: #f5f8fa;
	border: 1px solid #a3afb6;
	vertical-align: middle;
	font-size: 0.9em;
}
td {
	vertical-align: top;
	border: 1px solid #a3afb6;
	padding: 0.4em 0.5em 0.4em 0.5em;
	font-size: 0.9em;
}
input {
  border: 1px solid #999;
  background-color: #EEE;
  padding: 1px;
}

/*$BOOTSTRAP*/
/*  */
.navbar-brand {
	padding: 0;
	overflow: hidden;
	text-indent: -px;
	background: url(../images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png) -5px -10px no-repeat;
	background-size: auto 70px;
	width: 0;
}
/* A light blue for bootstrap boxes */
.verylightblue {
	background-color: #fbfcfd;
	border-color: #c6cbdd;
}

/*$HEADER*/
/* - */
#aoo_heading {
	overflow: hidden;
}
#aoo_heading img {
	margin: -20px 0;
}
#bannera {
	font-size:12pt;
}
#languagesdiv {
	float: right;
	padding: 0 20pt 4pt 16pt;
}
.page-header h1 small {
	display: block;
	padding-bottom: 0.2em;
}

/*   $CONTAINER   */
/* -- */
#content {
	margin: 0 auto 20px;
	padding: 12px 3% 32px;
	color: #333;
	overflow: auto;
	max-width: 1280px;
}
#content h2 {
	font-size: 1.2em;
	padding: 0.5em 1em;
	border-bottom: 1px solid #c6cbdd;
}
#content h3,h4,h5,h6 {
	border-bottom: none;
	font-size: 1em;
	margin-bottom: 0;
}
#content li {
	margin-bottom: 0.5em;
}

/*$FOOTER*/
/* - */
#footera {
	border-top: 2px solid

Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

[Emanuele]

Kay Schenk wrote:
> Thanks for all this! Some of us can play around in "emulation mode" on
> our own setups and see what happens.

You are welcome.
It's also for me a way to learn. ;)

>
> Fun stuff! :)

:-P

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Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

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Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> My final and unrelated suggestion is to re-arquitect the way the file
> structure has been handled. Example:
> css/
> ... header.css
> ... menu.css
> ... content.css
> ... footer.css
> ... form.css
>
> This will provide a better nd more granular manipulation of the css.

I don't see that much css around to justify multiple files. Of course
from my (non-designer) experience.
The last file I used in my experiments was 484 lines (only for the home
page though) including the media queries to support the responsive
design, and while writing this email I went back and removed some
unnecessary code trimming down the css to 378 lines including comments
to describe where the styles apply.

If bootstrap is used for the general look&feel, then the additional css
needed should really be just the bare minimum necessary to change colors
and tweak stuff, I think.

Best regards,
Emanuele

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Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

[Emanuele]

Kay Schenk wrote:
> On 07/17/2014 03:30 PM, Emanuele wrote:
>> I am now looking at "navtop".
> Do you mean "topnav"? I can't find any reference to "navtop".
Yep... I was a bit sleepy at the time.

> I'm not totally sure what you're asking

Yeah, I didn't explain very well what the problem was. Sorry.

> we should look at how some of the underlying pages render if we moved
> the placement of the top navigator items. My opinion -- regardless how
> many elements from a newer design we incorporate into other pages, I
> think the topnav element should be at the same place in all pages.

I would say that as much consistent as possible is the best.
The website at the moment has several different styles. It could be the
opportunity to harmonize some of them.

Emanuele

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Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

[Emanuele]

Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Do you know the "Web Developer" add-on for Firefox? I've discovered
> that it shows the layout in specific screen resolutions (from 320x480
> to 1024x768) for different phone anf tablet devices.
Yep.
And Chrome has an emulation feature (
https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/mobile-emulation ) that is
quite useful as well.

>
> Every small resolution has just a horizontal scrollbar and no vertical
> one.

I was just being very picky: there was a range (between about 750px and
768px) that the menu was on two lines (there is still something but...
heh :P).

>
> It's getting better and better with every update. :-)

Thanks. :)


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Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

[Emanuele]

Hi,

I'm trying to understand a bit the way the CMS builds the site in order
to see how to put everything together.
I think I got the basics. At least I think I understood what file does
what (mostly).

I am now looking at "navtop".
If I got it right, the navtop.mdtext is parsed as markdown (and it
generates an ) and the result is put into the content block in
navigator.html.
markdown generates plain html without classes and/or other attributes.

Bootstrap, on the contrary, requires to assign quite a bit of classes,
because it relies on that to apply styles and attach javascript
events/effects.
So, the question is: is there any way to apply classes to the  and
 elements of navtop without having to use raw html?
Yeah, I could use javascript, though it would be better to have
everything in place in the html.

Best regards,
emanuele

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Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

[Emanuele]

Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 07/12/2014 03:27 PM, schrieb Emanuele:
>> As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread.
>>
>> Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not
>> sure in the next period either.
>
> ah, too bad. :-(

Well, I'll try to do something, but sure what. ;)

>> For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the
>> menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where
>> the are now:
>> http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html
>
> Fixed-top is already good. To get the height of the header reduced and
> also fixed would be great.

hmm... I personally don't like too much very tall fixed headers, they
tend to take up a lot of vertical space.

>
> Of course our logo has to be put somewhere 

The logo could go in the fixed menu for example, on the left, though in
that case, I'd reduce the number of entries of the menu itself because
at certain resolutions (from 800px wide up to 1024 and maybe something
more depending on the size of the logo) the menu would go on two lines,
and it doesn't really look good IMO.

Mixing the two, what about some "moving stuff around" while scrolling?
http://testing.elkarte.it/ooo/index_scroll.html

>>
>> Are the css "compiled" somehow as well, or are they in the home.css,
>> ooo.css, etc. files?
>
> No, they are plain and will be just applied to the webpage.

Okay, well, in my example I collected the bits from the various places
into a single file (it's just about 400 lines, so not much to deal
with), since most of them were not necessary.

It seems I'm getting the grasp of how the website works, now I have just
to understand how to enable SSI on my localhost.
/me goes read some documentation on the matter... or at least some examples.

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Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

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Kay Schenk wrote:
> Thanks for the new thread and for the interesting new design.   Given
> discussions about the website home page just form today, you can see there
> is considerable interest in improving our landing page.

Yep, I saw the discussion a while after having sent my email (I'm a bit
behind reading my emails).


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[WWW] home page/website(?) restyle

[Emanuele]

As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread.

Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not
sure in the next period either.
Anyway, if you see anything you want from what I did, feel free to pick
it (I suppose I can write here it is released under AL2 license and
everything should be fine).

That said,

Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 07/02/2014 09:41 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>> Am 07/02/2014 07:50 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 http://getbootstrap.com/css/#buttons I'm not really sure, maybe it
 will
 look very bad, but maybe there are some elements can we can work with.
>>>
>>> Maybe good or bad. But it's definitely a step back as the buttons are
>>> just colored but now we have a graphic. This would be gone which is,
>>> hm,
>>> not good looking... ;-)
>>
>> In the buttons of course one could reuse all the graphics, but still use
>> Bootstrap buttons for the shape and to highlight the "active" choice.

If the idea is to use bootstrap it may be worth re-adapt the entire HTML
according to the "bootstrap way".
It will be a pain at the beginning (it basically means rewrite a lot of
stuff), but I suppose it would be an advantage in the mid/long term.

For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the
menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where
the are now:
http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html

> ah, yes, that would work.
>
>> The current divs do not look bad (actually, they look nice!) on the
>> current homepage, while they don't fit well in the new proposal;

It would be nice to know "why". ;) (Of course just because if you tell
me the "why" I may try to understand how to fix it.)
The very first time the hovers were a bit random (they didn't always
reach the bottom border), in the "second version" they are more
consistent (except the last two because the underline is not on the
, but on the , but that's a detail that can be fixed), if it is
what you mean.


Kay Schenk wrote:
> The "template" pieces are currently in the /lib and /templates directory of
> the ooo-site tree.

Are the css "compiled" somehow as well, or are they in the home.css,
ooo.css, etc. files?

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Re: New design of download page

[Emanuele]

Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> http://www.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/
>
> that looks very good:
>
> - The carousel is something that we really need.
> - The drop-down menu item "Product" is a good idea to save some space.
> - The 3-column-design is not too wide.
>   With shortening the text it can look even better.

You mean the text in the three columns is too close?
It may depend on the resolution (try squeezing and enlarging the page,
the layout changes accordingly). Your seems to be 1280, right? (From
your previous email.)
Try having a look now (hard refresh to clean the cache).

>
> PS:
> Please note that there is a difference between the page above the news
> carousel and the other part. From the technical part we have to make a
> difference how to update both parts in general.
The part above the carousel (including the carousel) depends on
bootstrap ( http://getbootstrap.com/ ).. actually I started including
bootstrap for the carousel and then I went ahead and replaced the menu
as well. :P

>> Okay, is rather different from the current layout but is also a bit
>> responsive (just to please everybody :P).
>> I didn't spend much time on the colors and alignment of elements, just
>> on the general layout of the page.
>
> That's OK. We can see perfectly what you try to express.
>
> And it looks like if you want to do more and volunteer to do this
> little refresh. Am I guessing right? ;-)

I had a bit of a hard time trying to checkout ooo-site, it was hanging
up with:
svn: E175012: Connection timed out
now it seems it finished properly...

It's just me looking at the wrong place or /ooo-site/ doesn't use
templates like /site/, but pages are created one by one?
Because the changes I did, require each page to have stuff added to the
 (jQuery and bootstrap). It may be a bit more work than what you
were foreseeing.

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Re: New design of download page

[Emanuele]

Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>> the main content in the center?
>
> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website
> and then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was
> working good.

I'm not at all a designer, I just had few minutes of free time and I
decided to play a bit with the page:

http://www.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/

Okay, is rather different from the current layout but is also a bit
responsive (just to please everybody :P).
I didn't spend much time on the colors and alignment of elements, just
on the general layout of the page.

emanuele

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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

[Emanuele]

janI wrote:
> MEMORY USAGE
>    Max Memory Ever Allocated : 19.02 G
>    Configured Max Per-thread Buffers : 27.46 G
>    Configured Max Global Buffers : 640 M
>    Configured Max Memory Limit : 28.09 G
>    Physical Memory : 1.96 G
> 
>   --> Max memory limit exceeds 90% of physical memory, increase phys mem.
> 

I can't say to be an expert (and I may be badly reading these number,
that's nothing new :P), but that seems a lot of memory for a forum.
I mean, I have seen that scale (20+ GB) only on a forum with a database
the size of 40+ GB (with some 4/5/600 users online simultaneously).

The current db size of the en forum (judging by the number of posts)
should be around... ~1/1.5 GB. And summing up all the other forums you'd
have no more than 2 or 3 GB.
Okay, a couple of GB of physical memory may be not much to handle all of
them, but 20+ seems a lot.

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Re: OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly

[Emanuele]

Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> (removing useless lists from recipients)
>
> On 28/07/2013 Robert Hupp wrote:
>> OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly
>> yesterday I installed OpenOffice 4.0.0 retaining 3.4.1. Copying a wiki
>> article OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashed consistently. Example: The
>> crashing point lies within the highlighted area (text made with Writer
>> 3.4.1 and copied to Thunderbird), between Français
>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisme and Links bearbeiten
>> http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q47783#sitelinks-wikipedia :
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne
>
> I cannot crash OpenOffice 4 by copying and pasting text from
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne
> (either the portion you described or the whole page). Maybe you need
> to give some more details. Also check if CTRL-Shift-V (Paste Special,
> Unformatted) works.

Win 7.
AOO 4.0 German and Italian.
Just installed.
Profile migrated from 3.4 (I think, I was not exactly sure of what I
clicked).
Internet Explorer 10 and Opera 11.something.
Empty document.

Copied the text in the side bar of the page
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne
Starting from "In anderen Sprachen" to "Links bearbeiten" (included).

Pasted from the menu and with ctrl+v => crash.

Trying with smaller chunks, the problematic text seems to be: ਪੰਜਾਬੀ

(the one before Polski).
Copy & pasting that piece is enough to crash AOO 4.0 Writer or Impress,
while Calc works fine if pasting not in "edit mode" (i.e. not pasting in
the formula bar, pasting in the bar results in a crash as well).

HTH.

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Re: Release communications -- plans

[Emanuele]

Rob Weir wrote:
> The Release Notes are starting to look very nice.  It is worth
> reviewing if you have not looked recently:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>

Just a small typo I suppose:

http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/c/ce/120017_MS.jpg
http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/d/da/120017_AOO341.jpg
http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/120017_AOO40.jpg

;)

Also maybe something like:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3027/gebv.png
or
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/396/djx.png
instead of
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30746475/NewPalette.png?version=1&modificationDate=1373893875128

And the same for
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30746475/NewGradients.png?version=1&modificationDate=1373893817690

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