Re: Release-Note für AOO 4.1.4 in Vorbereitung

2017-10-14 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo Jörg!

Nur eine kleine Anmerkung meinerseits.
Ich finde es schön, wenn in einem deutschen Text alles – also auch 
Sprach- und Ländernamen – deutsch ist. Ausgenommen technische 
Bezeichnungen, die sich so eingebürgert haben. Es wird viel zu oft 
hingenommen, daß man mit englischen Begriffen oder gar falschen 
Anglizismen konfrontiert wird, wo es doch eindeutig deutsche Wörter gibt.
Bugfix mag man inzwischen auch akzeptieren, aber letztlich weiß ein 
Normalbürger eher etwas mit Fehlerbereinigung anzufangen.
Sicherheitsfix? Wenn ich mal penibel sein darf – mit einem Bugfix 
beseitigt man den Bug/Fehler; und hier wird jetzt die Sicherheit beseitigt?
Das meine ich, mit gedankenloser Wortübernahme, die sich immer mehr in 
unserer Sprache breit macht.


Im Originaltext ist (inzwischen) der Begriff “Security improvements” 
eingefügt. Verbesserung der Sicherheit ist besser, als diese zu beseitigen.


Hat ein “build fix” tatsächlich etwas mit dem Produkt zu tun? Die Frage 
steht generell im Raum, unabhängig von deren Übersetzung.


“Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 will be flagged by the Gatekeeper facility in 
Mac OS X.”


Obwohl die wörtliche Übersetzung “flagged” → „markiert“ stimmt, 
entspricht wohl „blockiert“ eher den Tatsachen und der besseren 
Verständlichkeit des Vorganges. Anschließend wird ja erklärt, wie diese 
Blockade aufzuheben ist.



Grüße, Mathias

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issue 127553 (was: 4.1.4 show stopper!)

2017-10-11 Thread Mathias Röllig
This is a very good description. Mathias, have you already copied it to 
Bugzilla? (I've also tested with business cards, but this one looks more 
generic).


Done.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127553

But 4.1.4 isn't available for version in bugzilla. Neither as »Version« 
nor as »Latest Confirmation in«.



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Re: 4.1.4 show stopper!

2017-10-10 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Raphael!

Am 10.10.2017 um 17:10 schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> I understand this, I have just an idea. We keep the 4.1.4 as is and
> release a patch for the bug. Then we make just new community builds
> with > the patch. Like this we avoid to make a 4.1.5 and we stick
> within the ASF policy.

A patch for *all* platforms must also be tested in all ways. So I think, 
this way isn't an easy and good way.

Simply let 4.1.4 as is but don't let it (official) free.
Create a 4.1.5-RC1 (or maybe 4.1.4-RC5 if possible) with this patch, and 
if no further errors announce 4.1.5.


Regards Mathias


Regards Raphael

Am .10.2017, 16:35 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski :


Once something is tagged it is public. It is official. Removing and/or
adjusting tags is something that we cannot and should not do. It is
really against ASF policy since it destroys an accurate representation
of our history and IP provenance.

If someone wishes to take over as RM, I am fine with that. I will
still produce the required builds. But as long as I'm RM, I can't
abide by "rewriting" history re: 4.1.4... But like I said, I'm OK
w/ someone taking over as RM and will follow their direction
whatever it is.

On Oct 10, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti  
wrote:


Jim Jagielski wrote:
Considering this issue, this means that 4.1.4 is also DOA. I will 
wait for

a few more hours, for West Coast to get online but my plan is to
start the process for AOO-415


We are still in time for retiring 4.1.4-RC4 (not 4.1.4 altogether).

Builds are on SourceForge but they've never been distributed and they 
can be replaced by new builds.


4.1.4 is tagged but SVN tags can be deleted and recreated. Not best 
practice, but surely feasible.


Remember that the amount of code changes needed to produce something 
named 4.1.5 is quite significant and very much error-prone. Take a 
look at the relevant issues in case, but for a "quick fix" I would 
definitely stick to 4.1.4, produce 4.1.4-RC5 and vote on RC5, while 
undoing what we did for 4.1.4-RC4.


Note: I'm writing all of the above without having had the time to 
look at the patch or test. I'll do that this evening, European time. 
I have still to understand the importance of this bug too - I assume 
this affects potentially many users, otherwise we can go the slippery 
way of "fix just another small bug" for ages.


Regards,
 Andrea.

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4.1.4 show stopper! (was: 4.1.4 RC4: synchronize labels don't work on MacOS)

2017-10-10 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Even on Linux.

Problem: linked sections will not be updated if the original section is 
changed.


The button [Synchronise Labels] do nothing other than Tools… → Update → 
Links (or Tools… → Update → Update All).


Simply
1. create a new text document
2. insert a section with content
3. insert a section as link to the first section
4. change the content of the first section

5. Tools… → Update → Links
or Tools… → Update → Update All

=> Nothing happens. :-(

Regards, Mathias

Am 10.10.2017 um 11:10 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Thanks for the report.

I have reproduced the problem in my Windows 8.1 debug environment, based 
on trunk but with some 4.1.4 changes added. I need to get some more 
sleep before serious debug (it is 2:08 a.m. here). Could someone check 
whether it happens in the unmodified trunk? That would narrow it down.


On 10/10/2017 12:49 AM, FR web forum wrote:

Hello dev,
FYI a french user reports this on MacBook Pro SSD OS X 10.12.6 Sierra
Run File - New - Business Cards
Choose how your business cards will look
Click on New document
Modifiy the first label
When you click on the Synchronize Labels button, the current label is 
not copied to all others.


Rollback to 4.1.3: works as expected.

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starting AOO with symlink to <$inst_dir>/program/soffice isn't possible

2017-09-25 Thread Mathias Röllig

Please have a look at Issue 127540.

Thank you!
Mathias

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Availability of AOO-4.1.4 RC4

2017-09-24 Thread Mathias Röllig
No problems with AOO 4.1.4 RC 4 DE installation and en-GB language pack 
under Ubuntu 14.04 64bit.


Regards
Mathias

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Re: translated files

2017-09-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Matthias!

Am 21.09.2017 um 19:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Mathias,

On which platform are you planing to translate the files?


Linux/Ubuntu.


Subversion would be the best way:
https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html


Subversion installed, actual source checked out: Rev. 1809211



If you have rights to commit you can do it directly (I think Peter can).


Don't know. Now I can edit the files locally. Next step?

Thank you and regards
Mathias

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Re: translated files

2017-09-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

Am 21.09.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Requests for translation are posted to the bug:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=39199


Yes, I can look at the files via Opengrok. Is tht the way?


German speaking devs take the file and conduct the translation.


This answer helps me to help to translate – very well! <Sarcasm!>

M.


Damjan

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Mathias Röllig <mroellig.n...@gmx.net>
wrote:


Hello!

I use Peter's question to ask in the same direction:

How is the way to help with translation of comments?
Where to get and put the files?

Regards
Mathias



Am 20.09.2017 um 23:55 schrieb Peter Kovacs:


I have translated comments in the files

main/sfx2/source/doc/objxtor.css

main/sc/inc/dociter.hxx
main/sc/source/core/data/dociter.cxx

Can I commit those changes to SVN or does someone need to set something
for me first before I can commit?

(Will be friday till I have time again :S)

All the best
Peter




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Re: translated files

2017-09-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I use Peter's question to ask in the same direction:

How is the way to help with translation of comments?
Where to get and put the files?

Regards
Mathias


Am 20.09.2017 um 23:55 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I have translated comments in the files

main/sfx2/source/doc/objxtor.css

main/sc/inc/dociter.hxx
main/sc/source/core/data/dociter.cxx

Can I commit those changes to SVN or does someone need to set something 
for me first before I can commit?


(Will be friday till I have time again :S)

All the best
Peter




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no active help for most toolbars

2017-08-14 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Please open Writer and goto View → Toolbars.
Press [Shift]+[F1] for active help.
Only for “Hyperlink Bar” and “Formula” you will get a balloon help topic.

Can anybody check, if there was never a help topic for the other tool 
bars or is there a broken link in the source?


Should I file an issue?

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New value "future" for version in IssueZilla

2017-03-08 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Can we have a new value "future" ("none" or something other) for the 
field Version in IssueZilla to use for ENHANCEMENT requests?


What does not exist has no version number, right?
If anyone grab the issue and is working on it then he should change the 
value to the desired version.


Regards, Mathias

PS: "none" could also be a separate value for RESOLVED – NOT AN ISSUE.
I imagine that "none" could be set automatically for NOT AN ISSUE and 
"future" is set automatically for and only for ENHANCEMENT.


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Re: trying to get a template from the page...

2017-02-20 Thread Mathias Röllig

I have no issues, too.
Maybe a Firewall is blocking the page?


Please go to
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/
and say, which templates you can download.



Is there a copyright or licensing issue for some templates?
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/template/cd-jewel-case-front-insert-template-2
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/template/cbrainpower-13-creativ-learning-made
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/template/dvd-case-insert-template-a4-14mm-dvd
[…]

What's about empty entries?
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/template/gold-frame
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/template/invoice-1-1
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/template/yamb-game-form-1
[…]

Is anybody working on this site?
By the way: It looks good!
But what good is it if there is nothing to download?


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Re: trying to get a template from the page...

2017-02-20 Thread Mathias Röllig

I have no issues, too.
Maybe a Firewall is blocking the page?


Please go to
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/
and say, which templates you can download.

Thank you!

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Re: trying to get a template from the page...

2017-02-20 Thread Mathias Röllig



I find with Google immediately the homepage of "cBrainPower 1.3":
http://openofficeapps.weebly.com/english-downloads.html


Yes, but for the whole users it doesn't help and it declares not why 
“Access denied” for ALL templates. And that 2 month after Martin asked 
on this list …


http://templates.services.openoffice.org/




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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-12 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Peter!


I thought about this a little. I think to mix up both behaviours is not
simple anymore for users. I dislike the implicity of the approach. For a
new user it is not transperent that OpenOffice will take the recent
document into account.


Hmm. Have you ever used the URL field? Since it is hidden per default I 
think that most users don't know what they could do with this.


There would be no new mixup. If you click at the arrow of the dropdown 
box you get a long history. But If you write inside the URL bar you will 
get (only) autocomplete results for your file system – but for this you 
must type the complete path. If you type something that not begins with 
a path/URL identifier you get nothing. And at this point AOO should 
simply look into the history what filenames matches with this input.




what I could imagine would be a virtual folder Recent documents, that
would contain a list with all entries from recent document List. You can
work with this folder and search as you are used to.


Why? This list exists inside the URL field!

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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-11 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Peter!


Thanks for your Brainstorm.
I checked and if you select an Open Document option, and start to type a
recent document its already autocompleting.


Yes. But this autocompleteing works at your file system (this is good!) 
but not for the history.




You are suggesting to replace it with a dropdown that shows a filtered
recent Document list?
Is this what you are suggesting?


Not really. In a Linux/Unix system a path always begins with / (in 
Windows with :\).

So my proposal is:

1. The behaviour of now (leave it unchanged):¹
If one type the beginning of a path → autocompletion.
Please consider that you can change the offer with cursor up/down.
Example: If you write »/D« AOO completes to »/Documents« 
with »ocuments« highlighted. Press [↓] it will change to 
»/Downloads« with »ownloads« highlighted. Or open ([Alt]+[↓]) the 
dropdown list with the matching paths/filenames.
Select the desired folder with [↓]/[↑] and press [→]. Repeat until you 
have selected the right file and press [Enter].



2.  Additional(!) behaviour (wish):
If one type the beginning of a filename (without any path 
identification) /then/ there should open a dropdown with the matching 
/filenames/ from the history.

Example: If you write »m« open a list with
|/minions.odt
|/minions2.ods
|/my file1.odt
|[…] aso.
With the next letter the search will refined.
With [↓]/[↑] one can go through the list and press [Enter] for the 
selected entry. Or simply click on it with the mouse cursor.



Number 1 works (as I know) only for the file system.
Number 2 respects all protocols (http, ftp, …) you have used and which 
are in the history.



Regards, Mathias
¹ At the moment there seems to be a bug.
If one types the beginning of a path and one afterward delete this 
input, the history doesn't come back – there stays the list with the 
matching paths/files.


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Re: recently opened files change max entries

2017-02-10 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!


I think the number of entrys should be configurable in the settings.


If you thinking in this direction I have also a suggestion.

I have the “Load URL” field visible inside the Standard tool bar. This 
have many advantages:

1. A very longer history.
2. AutoCompletion for URLs. (directories/file)
3. Because under Ubuntu it is impossible to open files by dragging it 
from the file manager to the title bar (like under Windows), I can drag 
the file to the URL field and hit [Enter].


But I have a wish for this:
It would be very(!) nice if I could begin to write a filename and the 
URL field would suggest/list the hits in the history.




I also often move my files after editing.
When I click on the list of recently opened files most of them are not
accessible any more.


For the URL field I wish it like in firefox:
scroll to the desired entry and press ([Shift]+)[Del].

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Deleting_autocomplete_entries

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Re: Increase the number of tables in Calc

2017-02-06 Thread Mathias Röllig

If one creates daily reports at seperate sheets and want to collect the
reports for one year in one document then this enhancement is very
useful.
When do older versions of AOO warn “This document was created with a
newer version? […]”






There is no need for sarcasm. AOO have this warning since years – but I 
don't know the mechanism behind. Sometimes I get this message with an 
actual version of AOO if I open a document which was created with LO.
OOo2.x/3.x shows this message also for documents which was created with 
newer OOo/AOO version. Maybe this message was already introduced in the 
StarOffice time.

And this message was introduced to warn users of possible loss.
I don't know if there is a special document version string or if simply 
the AOO version is written into the document. So my question is


>> Must the main version number increased for such a change?

to trigger this message? If you know more then please let us know.

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Re: Increase the number of tables in Calc

2017-02-06 Thread Mathias Röllig

My patch works :-). I can make 1024 sheets!



If one creates daily reports at seperate sheets and want to collect the 
reports for one year in one document then this enhancement is very useful.
When do older versions of AOO warn “This document was created with a 
newer version? […]” Must the main version number increased for such a 
change?


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Re: changing the site for creating a issuezilla account

2017-01-31 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Raphael!


Anybody should read, that issuezilla is NOT A HELPDESK /before/ one is
creating an issuezilla account!




Maybe we should remove all bz links at the User site *.openoffice.org*
and only have a link on the developer page openoffice.apache.org


This could (and IMHO would) be a good first step! :-)

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Re: changing the site for creating a issuezilla account

2017-01-31 Thread Mathias Röllig

But with some words before the user create an account there is the
possibility to increase this questions.


Sorry: TO DECREASE, naturally. ;-)



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Re: changing the site for creating a issuezilla account

2017-01-31 Thread Mathias Röllig

The best we can do is still to ask politely and honestly the user to go
first to a user forum and ask for help. Sure, the most will also ignore
this hint.


YES, but this MUST BE at
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/createaccount.cgi

Anybody should read, that issuezilla is NOT A HELPDESK /before/ one is 
creating an issuezilla account!




But at the end there is no way to prevent that users willl
ask howto questions on BZ anyway.


But with some words before the user create an account there is the 
possibility to increase this questions.


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Re: changing the site for creating a issuezilla account

2017-01-31 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Jörg!


Inside the issue tracking system there are more and more users
which searching for help how to use AOO.


Do you have some examples? I would like to take a look at what's
going on.


I have closed some.

But for an example
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127303
is also a candidate. IMO AOO has the ability to solve his problem but in 
other ways. A style formats but count nothing.




It would be a good task to change the text at

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/createaccount.cgi


There is no explanation, what issuezilla is!
There is no guide for understanding what users can do and what
they should not do!
There is no hint for the very first step to find user forums for
questions and discussions!


I'm not sure what to do. Probably a short note is not wrong, but a
longer explanations belong more to the local pages, such as:
http://www.openoffice.org/de/dev/pre_submission_de.html

I am also not sure whether longer explanations will bring much, for
e.g. the German community (de-aoo) has tried for years to explain how
to use our mailing lists correctly, unfortunately only with little
success.



The problem is that nobody knows how the people comes to issuezilla. 
Maybe a simple search at a search engine shows at first issuezilla. So 
you can provide informations where you want – the user will not get it.



So the simpliest way IMO is to ask the potential new subscriber
(a draft!)
– If you need help for using AOO?
Please got to https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
or look for a forum in your language at https://forum.openoffice.org/.
– You have found a technical issue inside AOO?
Then please check these steps:
1. Have you a step-by-step description and a sample document to show the 
issue?

2. Have you discussed the issue at a user forum?
3. Can anybody at a userforum reproduce the problem?
[YES for all] – [NO]

Only if one clicks on [YES] he will be asked for the email address.

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changing the site for creating a issuezilla account

2017-01-31 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Inside the issue tracking system there are more and more users which 
searching for help how to use AOO.


It would be a good task to change the text at

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/createaccount.cgi


There is no explanation, what issuezilla is!
There is no guide for understanding what users can do and what they 
should not do!
There is no hint for the very first step to find user forums for 
questions and discussions!



If anyone can change this site: Please do it!

Thank you!
Mathias

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Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-22 Thread Mathias Röllig

I am puzzled a little bit about the idea of "loyalty to the original"
OpenOffice.

1. The original OpenOffice.org was operated by a proprietary company,
although the code was made available as open-source.  But ownership
was held by Sun Microsystems for their proprietary purposes.  There
was great value to OpenOffice.org, but not so much because it was
open-source.  I think key benefits were support for ODF format,
multiple-platform support, and degree of support for Microsoft
formats.  There was no open-source governance in this arrangement.

When LibreOffice forked that code, as the license allowed, some were
unhappy in any case.

2. When Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems, OpenOffice.org became their
property in the same manner as at Sun.

3. When Oracle concluded that continuation of OpenOffice.org was not
in their interests, they chose to grant the ASF a license to use the
code base and to provide it under a license of the ASF's choosing
(always Apache License of course).  This is how Apache OpenOffice
arose.  AOO became Apache Project after being in Apache Incubator.
People interested in supporting OpenOffice.org signed-up to
contribute to the incubator and some formed the original Project
Management Committee for AOO.  AOO has always been an Apache
Project.

What "original OpenOffice" is thought of here?


The „original“ was StarOffice. And yes, you described right the way of 
the „original“ OpenOffice – as I understand it as a user (with many 
contacts to StarDivision/Sun/Oracle) using StarOffice/OpenOffice for 
over 20 years.


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Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Many companies need to import MS document formats. They don't have the
choice to teach all customers to send an other document format.


That might be the case in the United States, but in Europe, the legal
requirement is to use ODF file formats.


I can only speak for my experiences in Germany. Maybe they /should/ use 
ODF – but in most cases it will simply ignored.


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Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello,

You all talking about the standalone product. It is a good point but 
only a piece.
Many companies need to import MS document formats. They don't have the 
choice to teach all customers to send an other document format.

So for the acceptance there is a big need to improve the import filters.
As I remember this was the most important topic before IMB left the AOO 
community.
And this is also a big problem for many, many users and companies 
(government, insurance, advocate, handicraft and so on), who are working 
with special software which is producing files in MS document formats.

Many software uses explicit MSO to produce this files.
For this clientele mostly all features that AOO provides is enough, 
mostly more as enough - BUT import of MS document format and/or using 
AOO as front-end for the specialised software is missing and is the main 
reason against AOO.


Regards
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Autokorrektur in deutschen Sprachgebieten

2016-11-16 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo!

Ich habe für einen österreichischen Freund OpenOffice installiert und 
eingerichtet. Dabei ist mir aufgefallen, wenn ich als Gebietsschema 
etwas anderes als »Deutsch (Deutschland)« auswähle, dass es dann keine 
Autokorrektureinträge dafür gibt.


Soll das so sein? Nutzt in Österreich und den anderen deutschen 
Sprachgebieten niemand die Autokorrektur?
Dass man durchaus unterschiedliche Bedürfnisse abzudecken hat, kann ich 
nachvollziehen. Aber dass es gar keine Standardvorgaben gibt?


Gleiches scheint auch für andere Sprachen wie »Französisch (Frankreich)« 
im Gegensatz zu allen anderen französischen Sprachgebieten zu gelten.


Ob das mal in älteren Versionen anders war und einfach irgendwo auf der 
Strecke liegen geblieben ist, kann ich momentan nicht überprüfen.


Grüße, Mathias

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Re: may be duplicate but More to say

2016-10-17 Thread Mathias Röllig

Maybe my english is not good enough, but maybe …


Example Two--When I make a list of my
passwords using ODT, any hyperlink shows up as a type my email
address.  I used to stop before the ".net"  but now I type it and
select it and remove hyperlink.  Still difficult because of mouse
communicating to s/w which can re-arrange my typing.


… you are searching for
Format → AutoCorrect → AutoCorrect Options…
Tab: Options
[_] URL Recognition

If so, than it would be better to discuss your issues at a user forum.

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/

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Re: Suggestion for software please

2016-10-16 Thread Mathias Röllig



When I have a personal document (odt) with hyperlinks in it (copied
from another personal on-line document), I suggest software
capability increase to allow a person to click on the document (odt)
and then right-click to show the added software to remove all
hyperlinks.


Simply highlight all text and use
Format → Default Formatting.



That's it.


Exact.

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Re: Issue 63419 - New dialog control property Multiline has bad name in IDE

2016-10-03 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Peter!


does someon know where to find the IDE dialog Properties panel?


Create a new dialog in the Basic IDE or open an existing dialog. (Please 
note that the dialogs that comes with AOO are loaded in read-only mode. 
So you don't can open the properties for a control.)

Select a control and open the properties for it.

Regards, Mathias


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Re: [DISCUSS] Issue 125954 unhiding "hidden" content on e-mail send of document

2016-04-26 Thread Mathias Röllig

Only a little correction of typos and my english:


I a workflow […]


In a workflow […]


If one would send the whole document, […]


If one want to send the whole document, […]

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Re: [DISCUSS] Issue 125954 unhiding "hidden" content on e-mail send of document

2016-04-26 Thread Mathias Röllig
As I remember the behaviour was changed long time ago (maybe in the time 
of StarOffice before OpenOffice) as a security issue.
I a workflow inside a company it is possible, that a user doesn't know 
something about hidden text.


And with the option of serial emails it could be a big data security issue.

If one would send the whole document, there is only a little step more 
to send it from the file manager or add it in the mail application.


So the question is, send the /content/ or the whole /document/?

And this question could be asked before creating/sending the email. 
There should be no checkbox inside the options of AOO.


Regards, Mathias

Am 26.04.2016 um 00:50 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 04/25/2016 05:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Hello all --

A patch has been submitted for Issue 125954. There is some support for
the "un-hiding" of "hidden" content when sending a document as e-mail.
Since the non-exposure of hidden content when sending a document as
e-mail was apparently a decision make some time ago, it would be nice
if we could discuss both--

a) the desirability of un-hiding this type of content
b) the patch


Thoughts?

Issue 125954: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125954



It seems to me that the issue is hidden content is removed from the
emailed copy without notice when using the email feature, not that that
the wish is to un-hide.

I think the checkbox option sounds like a good solution.


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Re: Calc needs major overhaul

2016-02-14 Thread Mathias Röllig

On 02/14/2016 06:32 PM Kay Schenk wrote:


On 02/14/2016 12:17 AM, knsm...@yahoo.co.jp wrote:


Please share this email with Calc development team members.


Calc used to be a brilliant spreadsheet.

Please take a look at the following site.


http://wsatellite.web.fc2.com/research/openoffice/calcform01.html


Is there any programmer who can figure out how to solve this issue?


The minimum solution that I require is the help document for this FORM 
operations.


I hope Calc wins recognition as the best spreadsheet in the world,
since Excel continues to degrade with each "upgrade".


Thank you.


Well this is intriguing.

Do you have the actual spreadsheet used to display the image in:
http://wsatellite.web.fc2.com/research/openoffice/calcform01.html

To take a closer look at this problem, it would be best to file an
issue in Bugzilla: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

and attach the spreadsheet you've done so far so someone can take a
closer look at helping.



I think the better place is a support/discussion forum. There should be 
discussed the right way for the goal. (Which goal?)


If I understand the problem right, there may be a solution by using 
Data/Validity… in combination with VLOOKUP(). Copying data from one cell 
to another isn't possible without using a macro (with or without form 
controls).


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[QUESTION] rights to change Priority, Importance and Severity of an issue

2016-01-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

In my opinion it would be a good idea if /Priority/, /Importance/ and 
/Severity/ of an issue can only be changed by people who has at least 
can-confirm-rights.


Yes, also and in special the reporter of an issue (if he hasn't 
can-confirm-rights) shouldn't can change the defaults!


(same for /Developer Difficulty/)


Is this possible?

What do you think about?

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Re: [QUESTION] rights to change Priority, Importance and Severity of an issue

2016-01-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

In my opinion it would be a good idea if /Priority/, /Importance/ and
/Severity/ of an issue can only be changed by people who has at least
can-confirm-rights.

Yes, also and in special the reporter of an issue (if he hasn't
can-confirm-rights) shouldn't can change the defaults!

(same for /Developer Difficulty/)


Is this possible?

What do you think about?


It's up to us (developer, QA engineer, etc.) to evaluate the real
priority/urgency and then to take further steps.



That's the reason, why.

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Re: Basic editor and key-words

2016-01-01 Thread Mathias Röllig

There is a difference between reserved words and (predefined) function
names. This belongs to ALL programming languages.



LBound and UBound are not reserved words.


OK the goal is to help programmers
So we can have a different color for predefined functions?


I don't think that it would make sense.
How can the names be passed to the parser?
Maybe all names will collected in a separate array.

But what is with own SUBs and FUNCTIONs?
What is with SUBs and FUNCTIONs inside available modules and provided by 
some extensions?

What is with the methods of an object?

Maybe there will be a powerful IDE like Eclipse or NetBeans that can do 
an online parsing.


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Re: Basic editor and key-words

2015-12-30 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello FR web,


When I write a Basic program, some words are blue to show me that are reserved.
But much are missing and display in green (like LBound or UBound).
Where these key-words are stored?



There is a difference between reserved words and (predefined) function 
names. This belongs to ALL programming languages.


--
Option Explicit

Sub Main
Dim lBound As Integer
Dim uBound As Integer
lBound = 0
uBound = 2
Dim a( lBound To uBound ) As Integer
Dim i As Integer
For i = lBound To uBound
a( i ) = 10 * i + 5
Next i
For i = LBound( a ) To UBound( a )
print a( i ),
Next i
End Sub
--

LBound and UBound are not reserved words.


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Re: NeoShine: ribbon introduction

2015-10-16 Thread Mathias Röllig

Please no ribbon.


+1

mr

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[API] Priority Problem with AND and OR

2015-10-12 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I stumbled into a priority problem with the boolean operators AND and 
OR. I cannot find any documentation for this.


First mathematical examples.

With
MsgBox( 3 * 2 ^ 2 )
you will see, that ^ has a higher priority than *.
(2 ^ 2) = 4
4 * 3 = 12
With
MsgBox( (3 * 2) ^ 2 )
you will get the right result 6 ^ 2 = 36.

With
MsgBox( 3 + 4 * 3 )
you will see, that * has a higher priority than +.
(4 * 3) = 12
3 * 12 = 36
With
MsgBox( (3 + 4) * 3 )
you will get the right result 7 * 3 = 21.

Now looking at the same logic with logical operators.

Dim bResult As Boolean
bResult = TRUE Or FALSE And TRUE
MsgBox( bResult )
bResult = TRUE Or TRUE And FALSE
MsgBox( bResult )

What do you expect?
For logical operations AND is equivalent to * and OR is equivalent to +.
AND should have a higher priority than OR, so I would expect in both 
cases (because TRUE Or () = TRUE):

bResult = TRUE
But you will get
TRUE Or FALSE And TRUE = (TRUE Or FALSE) And TRUE = TRUE
TRUE Or TRUE And FALSE = (TRUE Or TRUE) And FALSE = FALSE

Is there any explanation that AND and OR have (and should have) the same 
priority?


Regards, Mathias

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Re: SNAPSHOT tag updated

2015-10-10 Thread Mathias Röllig

Am 10.10.2015 um 09:54 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

I've spoken more on Bugzilla than on the list lately, so I'm now
catching up and providing some more information.

As you may have noticed, the SNAPSHOT tag has been updated in
preparation for a RC2 that will be available early next week.

This RC2 may be a release we vote on, since all blockers are now in. In
other words, it's time to prepare for a release.

When RC2 binaries are available, early next week, I'll of course notify
the lists. Until then, it is fine to keep testing RC1.


At the moment always
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_de.tar.gz
is missing in
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-rc1-r1705606/binaries/de/

When will a build be available for testing?

Regards, Mathias

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Re: SNAPSHOT tag updated

2015-10-10 Thread Mathias Röllig

At the moment always
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_de.tar.gz
is missing in
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-rc1-r1705606/binaries/de/

When will a build be available for testing?


Those builds will come with RC2, it is easier to do so than re-upload
the missing files in RC1.

If there interest in testing that version as soon as possible, I can
probably make one RC2 installer (like: the 64-bit Linux DEB installer,
German version) available for download from my people.apache.org space
in a few hours. This is exactly the same file that will be on
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/ when all builds are
completed and uploaded. Do you want to have it available early?


If it will come with the other language versions it is OK.

Thank you!

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Re: reload of registered template directories (by extension)

2015-09-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!


Try the followings to update:
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/frame/DocumentTemplates.html
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/frame/XDocumentTemplates.html#update


Thank you very much! This is what I was searching for.

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Re: One Addons.xcu with toolbars for AOO and LO possible?

2015-09-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Correction, there was some nodes too much:

Now I have in the Addons.xcu:

  

  ... Old Scheme ...

  
  

  
Toolbar Title
  
  
... New AOO 4.x Scheme ...
  

  


With the files and entries for all ...WindowsState.xcu it works for AOO 
and LO.  :-)




But nevertheless I want to know:


And if I have to provide two extensions: how can I declare which
software the extension is for?
I can't find any explanation for a difference for the 
node in description.xml. It seems AOO and LO tests always against the
same entries.


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Re: One Addons.xcu with toolbars for AOO and LO possible?

2015-09-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

I answer again to myself. ;-)


I read
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47=63814=290135#p290135
again and again. But I can't find the answer if and how it is possible
to provide only one extension where toolbars will work with AOO and LO.


After thinking a long time about
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0#addons.xcu_changes
especially about the solution with 2 different named Addons.xcu I tried 
to merge them.


Now I have in the Addons.xcu:


  oor:op="replace">

... Old Scheme ...
  

  
  

  
Toolbar Title
  
  
... New AOO 4.x Scheme ...
  

  


With the files and entries for all ...WindowsState.xcu it works for AOO 
an LO.  :-)



But nevertheless I want to know:


And if I have to provide two extensions: how can I declare which
software the extension is for?
I can't find any explanation for a difference for the 
node in description.xml. It seems AOO and LO tests always against the
same entries.


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One Addons.xcu with toolbars for AOO and LO possible?

2015-09-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I read
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47=63814=290135#p290135
again and again. But I can't find the answer if and how it is possible 
to provide only one extension where toolbars will work with AOO and LO.


And if I have to provide two extensions: how can I declare which 
software the extension is for?
I can't find any explanation for a difference for the  
node in description.xml. It seems AOO and LO tests always against the 
same entries.


Regards, Mathias



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reload of registered template directories (by extension)

2015-09-14 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I created an extension with templates in it. The template path is 
registered via Paths.xcu.
In general it works. But the problem is, that the templates must be 
reloaded before.
For me this is a bug. AOO should update the template structure itself if 
an extension provides a template path.


As a workaround: how can I update the templates via API?
In other words: what is the API equivalent for
File → Templates → Organise…: (Commands) Update
?

Thanks
Mathias

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Re: reload of registered template directories (by extension)

2015-09-14 Thread Mathias Röllig

I created an extension with templates in it. The template path is
registered via Paths.xcu.
In general it works. But the problem is, that the templates must be
reloaded before.
For me this is a bug. AOO should update the template structure itself if
an extension provides a template path.


Sorry, must correct myself. All is working. The problem was, that the 
quickstarter was active, but under Ubuntu (64) 14.04 there is no 
quickstarter visible. So AOO wasn't complete closed and the 
configuration was not updated.





As a workaround: how can I update the templates via API?
In other words: what is the API equivalent for
File → Templates → Organise…: (Commands) Update
?


But if anybody knows the answer of the question above, I'm interested in.


Thanks
Mathias

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Re: Are the Buildbots down?

2015-07-09 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I use the thread to ask if there any links to the actual development builds.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-fullsets

still refers to AOO 4.1.1 builds.

Thanks!
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Re: Warum braucht die Welt AOO?

2015-07-02 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo!


(Natürlich sagen wir implizit, wenn wir unsere Stärken
herausstellen, dass andere diese nicht, zumindest nicht in dieser
Kombination haben. Aber das kann und soll der Adressat selber denken.)


Genau das ist aber der Knackpunkt. Ich finde die Idee hinter der Sache 
hervorragend und würde gern meine Punkte beisteuern, nur wie?


Problem 1 (Hauptproblem):
Wenn man sich herausheben will, braucht man den Vergleich. Den habe ich 
nicht, weil ich mit (fast - siehe Punkt 2) keiner vergleichbaren 
Software arbeite. StarOffice für Windows 1.0 ff seit 1993.
Ich weiß nur, dass ich mit AOO mehr mache als andere, die bestimmte 
Feature einfordern, ohne nur annähernd an der 1-%-Grenze der nutzbaren 
Möglichkeiten zu kratzen.


Problem 2:
Ja, ich muss mich mit LO beschäftigen, weil es ein Kunde wünscht. Und da 
bin ich oft kurz davor, in die Tischkante zu beißen. Und dann wünsche 
ich mir nur, dass sich AOO damit abhebt, dass bestimmte Features 
(insbesondere die Beschneidung/Amputation ehemals vorhandener 
Funktionen) nie in AOO einfließen werden. (Manchmal hat die inkompatible 
Lizenz auch Vorteile ...)

Aber damit hebt sich AOO (für mich) *jetzt noch* ab. Bleibt es so?


Ansonsten kann ich Jörgs Standpunkt nachvollziehen, nur hilft das der 
aktuellen Fragestellung, wie sich AOO abhebt/abheben möchte/sollte, 
nicht weiter.



Grüße, Mathias

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Re: [Q] Question about Mailarchive

2015-07-02 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Andrea!


All things against spambots are good things, isn't it?


Still this wouldn't solve the problem, since other mirroring services
are not guaranteed to conceal addresses.


This will result into the question who owns the data and who have the 
right to mirror public the messages. But this is another discussion.


I note that Bugzilla is the first forum for me that post ALL of its 
registered usernames and corresponding email addresses via mail archive 
to the internet.


Thank you!

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Re: [Q] Question about Mailarchive

2015-07-01 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Dennis!

Thank you again! Maybe my english is too bad, so we are talking about 
different things. Sorry for some misunderstanding.

Let me make a last try.


As mentioned separately, the email addresses of contributors to the
Bugzilla are visible to anyone having an account, and that satisfies
the ASF requirements for transparency.


No problem, I agree.



Although the HTML files obscure the email addresses, they can still
be harvested from the raw HTML, and the CC: lists are not obscured at
all (and are visible to non-subscribers).


Example:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3560

If I look at the HTML source I can't find any email address. The CC list:
select id=cc multiple=multiple size=5
option value=baumuxbaumux/option
option value=bob-openofficebob-openoffice/option
option value=bugger_aoobugger_aoo/option
option value=chris_muxchris_mux/option
[…]

Maybe you have looked at a cached version where you was logged in?



Although email addresses are not strong identifiers of individuals,
association of email addresses with contributors works well enough
for Apache purposes, in practice.


Maybe it was my fault to use the word hide. I better should wrote 
shorten.


Look at your precedent message at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201506.mbox/%3C009c01d0b351%2419fa95c0%244defc140%24%40acm.org%3E

So you will see that your email address is shortened to
dennis.hamil...@acm.org.

My email address inside the quoted text isn't shortened.


Now look at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201507.mbox/%3Cbug-126388-248469-ZzlQH5cCPb%40https.bz.apache.org%2Fooo%2F%3E

You will see that the sender email address from issuezilla is shortened 
to bugzi...@apache.org


But the original sender address from Regina and all other email 
addresses inside aren't shortened.



So what I want to know is:
Is there a possibility that all email addresses in mail archive are 
shortened, so that no spambot can use it?


(It would be a nice thing if also quoted email addresses in messages in 
bugzilla itself for not logged in visitors are shortened.)


I think there should be a possibility and has nothing to do with privacy 
statements and in my opinion it would be a good thing for all subscribers.


All things against spambots are good things, isn't it?

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Re: [Q] Question about Mailarchive

2015-06-26 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Dennis!

Thank you for your response. But please read my original message and


 Look at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/
 There is the address of the (always same) sender hidden:
 bugzi...@apache.org

 But all other email addresses are free readable.

 Do you think it is OK?

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Re: [Q] Question about Mailarchive

2015-06-25 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!


A special case is bugzilla. Bugzilla not intends to be a mailing list. It
seems it is a closed forum which shows sender addresses only for people who
are logged in. Bugzilla posts will be streamed into a mailing list - and
there is the problem.


We do it with bugzilla and also with subversion.

I actually do not see the problem, bugzilla/subversion are as such is also
public, and anybody can go in and read the content, even without a user.


I do not talk about the content - only about the email addresses. And 
these are not public in bugzilla.


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[Q] Question about Mailarchive

2015-06-25 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Mailing lists intend to be a little private; only subsribers should read 
the messages. This isn't the case since mailing list will be mirrored at 
the internet.


Most mirrors hide the email addresses of senders and inside the message 
text. But not all.


A special case is bugzilla. Bugzilla not intends to be a mailing list. 
It seems it is a closed forum which shows sender addresses only for 
people who are logged in. Bugzilla posts will be streamed into a mailing 
list - and there is the problem.


Look at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/
There is the address of the (always same) sender hidden: bugzi...@apache.org

But all other email addresses are free readable.

Do you think it is OK?

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Re: [Q] Question about Mailarchive

2015-06-25 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

It seems, we are talking about different things.


There is no policy that involves hiding of email addresses. There is [...]


Is this clear for anybody who create an account for bugzilla?



Folks who choose to operate anonymously will have difficulty [...]


I'm not talking about anonymity. The problem is the visibility of email 
addresses for spambots.


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Re: Possible shortcut bug

2015-05-02 Thread Mathias Röllig

I noticed that when you go file-new-Text Document in writer you can see
that the shortcut is Ctrl+N which works. However when you go to customize
keybinds it shows Ctrl+N as being unbound. I was wondering if this was
intentional for some reason or just an oversight?



Ctrl+N works for all modules. Simply change the section in the upper 
right corner to OpenOffice.


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[issue 126198] Break of platform independence

2015-03-27 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Please have a look on issue 126198.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126198

I don't know when the Map AppFont was introduced. (see comment 2)
Platform independence should have a high priority, isn't it?

For Bugzilla: please introduce a keyword for platform independence!

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Re: database problem

2015-03-26 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Mary Lou!


Hi Folks, I have created 2 tables in design view:  Basic Table  and  Dues Table.
Please read the attachment to see the tables.  My previous e-mail was not so 
easy to read.

There is a relationship between Basic.ID and Dues.ID

I can enter data into the Basic table but cannot enter data intothe Dues table.


Yes it is better to ask such questions in a user forum.

In your second table you need also a unique primary key (simply an 
autoincrement). Without such a column your table will stay readonly.


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Re: [BUG] printing issue with correct paper size (margins)

2015-03-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

First, ask to the support forum or users mailing list.
If other users can confirm this problem, bug report will be welcome.


My first reported printing issue was for more than 20 years for 
StarWriter 1.0 for Windows. There was a problem with the driver for a 
Canon BubbleJet. It was solved by the developers at StarDivision. At 
this time there was no IssueZilla.


Meanwhile IssueZilla is full of printing issues. Yes, I can add a new 
one. But this makes sense only if there are any developer interested in.


That's the reason why I asked here


Is there a chance to solve this issue?


and I hope any developer will read it and give it a chance.


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[BUG] printing issue with correct paper size (margins)

2015-03-02 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I'm using AOO under Ubuntu (Linux64) and print onto an HP Photosmart D7260.

Printing itself is not a problem.
But the driver (HPlip) knows several settings for each page size because 
the printer supports borderless printing.


For A4 there are the paper size entries
A4 210x297mm
A4 Small Margins 210x297mm
A4 Borderless 210x297mm

If I select A4 Small Margins 210x297mm AOO ignores it and uses always A4 
210x297mm (with big margins).


If I select A4 Borderless 210x297mm in the printer settings AOO stores 
this selection but uses also A4 210x297mm for printing. :-(
I can select A4 Borderless 210x297mm in the settings of the print dialog 
and and print with this settings. But for the next print job I must 
select it again, and again, and again, ...


Is there a chance to solve this issue?

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Own Windows for Formats, Gallery etc.

2015-02-25 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I noticed that LO has dropped the own windows for Formats, Gallery etc. 
The menu entries and icons opens now the sidebar with the selected content.


PLEASE do it NOT for Apache OpenOffice!

Who is happy with the side bar should be happy with it.
But there are good reasons to have the separated windows, one is a big 
fat monitor with many many space where all windows can be shown and used 
at the same time.


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Re: annotations to [Issue 4914] normal view option needed

2015-02-11 Thread Mathias Röllig



This ticket is dedicated to OOo 1.x and has its status fixed


It isn't fixed! That is the problem.
Setting this issue to FIXED without any change since 13(!) years offends 
anybody who is waiting for this feature.




So after +150 comments, it's very difficult to read.
Maybe, opening a new one for AOO 4.x will be better.


To have the same discussion again? For the next 13 years?

Sorry, don't understand your opinion.

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Re: [REQUEST] Bugzilla User Error Reports

2015-02-11 Thread Mathias Röllig

On 11/02/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/02/2015 Mathias Röllig wrote:

I also suggest that only peoples with Can-Confirm-Right can reopen an
issue or reset to Unconfirmed.


Do you see it being abused too much? In general we prefer to keep the
access open and educate people about possible mistakes, but if many
users are consistently getting it wrong we can revisit the policy.


At this time a have only one special case. But I'm still too busy to see 
what's going on. :-(

But yes I prefer also openness as wide as possible.

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[REQUEST] Context Menu Entries for Linux File Manager

2015-02-11 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Would it be an easy task to get context menu entries for ODF-files in 
Linux environments like in Windows?

I'm missing
- Open As Template (esp. for documents)
- Edit (esp. for Templates)

Maybe I can create it by myself, but it would be much better, if the 
desktop integration would do it for all users.


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annotations to [Issue 4914] normal view option needed

2015-02-11 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo!

Can any developer tell whether there is any progress since 2007 or 
explain, if there are technical limitations for it?


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4914#c40
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer_Views

In my opinion this feature should get a higher priority (if there is any 
at the moment).


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Re: [REQUEST] Bugzilla User Error Reports

2015-02-10 Thread Mathias Röllig

I wonder if we could setup a special tag for these either in Severity or
??? that could be used when closing so we could find them easier later.


I suggest to have an Issue Type Not an Issue or simply --- for 
closing such issues.



I also suggest that only peoples with Can-Confirm-Right can reopen an 
issue or reset to Unconfirmed.


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Re: emails to issues list

2014-11-18 Thread Mathias Röllig

Am 18.11.2014 um 19:06 schrieb Kay Schenk:



Issue-8621 created.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8621



see update to this issue. I guess there isn't a way to do this. Oh well. We
will continue with normal moderation on issues.


Thank you, but I cannot believe that in a big mailing system it isn't 
possible to set a simple rule:

Reject ALL except FROM: = bugzi...@apache.org.
:-(  :-(  :-(

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Re: emails to issues list

2014-11-14 Thread Mathias Röllig

Issue-8621 created.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8621


Thank you, Kay!  :)

Have a nice weekend!
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Re: emails to issues list

2014-11-13 Thread Mathias Röllig

Thanks for your answer! I don't know if this email was moderated.
It was only a actual example but there was emails at the list earlier.
See:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201410.mbox/%3CDUB120-DS8816A4B646CAC01026577D7B90%40phx.gbl%3E

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201410.mbox/%3CAE85557F-5726-4BD7-8A38-F078DD086416%40yahoo.com%3E

and follows.


Again:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201411.mbox/%3C788061281.305923.1415896965359.JavaMail.yahoo%40jws100136.mail.ne1.yahoo.com%3E

I think its a configuration problem.

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Re: emails to issues list

2014-11-12 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Peter!

Am 12.11.2014 um 02:07 schrieb Peter Junge:

Why it is possible that someone can send emails directly to the issues
mailing list?

e. g.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201411.mbox/%3C91286B00937747BA82897BA23D28C798%40Mainframe%3E


Likely I have moderated it through because it didn't stumble over that
it's issues@ rather than qa@. Sorry, if that was the case. Will pay more
attention in the future.


Thanks for your answer! I don't know if this email was moderated.
It was only a actual example but there was emails at the list earlier.
See:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201410.mbox/%3CDUB120-DS8816A4B646CAC01026577D7B90%40phx.gbl%3E
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201410.mbox/%3CAE85557F-5726-4BD7-8A38-F078DD086416%40yahoo.com%3E
and follows.

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emails to issues list

2014-11-11 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

Why it is possible that someone can send emails directly to the issues 
mailing list?


e. g.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201411.mbox/%3C91286B00937747BA82897BA23D28C798%40Mainframe%3E

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Re: Unterschiedliche Übersetzungen zur Symbolleiste Options

2014-10-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo!



Spricht etwas gegen Optionen?


Nein, Garnichts.
Im Gegenteil wäre dieser Begriff schon deshalb zu bevorzugen weil er Verwirrung 
bei der Unterstzützung von Anwendern vermeidet. Dabei gilt nämlich inzwischen 
leider das man ständig von 'Optionen oder Einstellungen' rden muss weil sonst 
ein Teil der Anwender den Menüeintrag nicht findet.



Sehe ich nicht so. Allgemein hat sich Einstellungen etabliert.
Da wären dann noch viele andere Stellen, die früher Optionen hießen.


Meine Meinung scheint mit der von Jörg konform zu gehen.
Extras → Einstellungen = JA
ABER
Symbolleisten: Optionen.

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Webseite Zeichensatz

2014-09-27 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo!

Die deutsche Seite http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html wird derzeit 
nicht korrekt (kaputte Umlaute) angezeigt, da der Browser den falschen 
Zeichensatz wählt.


Bitte in den Kopfdaten den Content-Type (utf-8) korrigieren.
(derzeit: uft-8)

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Re: Turning off a feature

2014-09-18 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!


I find it really difficult to use the Help Section, because the
majority of the time - as I am sure many of us self taught people can
relate to - I do not know what a certain feature is officially
called.  Maybe in future versions one could POINT or mouse click on
an icon or whatever it is bugging you and find out what it is?


Use Help → What's This? (or press [Shift]+[F1]) and locate the mouse 
cursor about the icon for which you need a description.




Right now, I'm having problems getting back to my document after
using the find and replace feature (which I couldn't get to do what I
wanted, but that's another story.  Now I can't switch it off.  The
double arrow in the margin that is used to click down a page at the
time instead of scrolling, is highlighted in blue and thus does not
work.  How do I turn it off, back to normal?


Click onto the point between the arrows - the mini navigator opens. Now 
click onto the page icon to switch back from Repeat search.


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Re: ASF banner ads

2014-09-12 Thread Mathias Röllig

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_asfcon.html


I think
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/images/*
and
http://www.openoffice.org/images/*
will be merged.

I suggest 2014-eu-234x60.png also copy to this directory or it should be 
linked from there.


This bypass the predefined adblock filter.

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Re: Problems seeing ApacheCon EU banner in home page bottom left corner.

2014-09-08 Thread Mathias Röllig

Is anyone else NOT able to see the ApacheConEU graphic with accompanying
link to the conference on the home page or is just me? :(

FF 31.0 - openSUSE 12.3

Looking at source all looks fine and yet 


I don't see it too. But the reason is the filter .org/ads in Adblock Plus.

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Re: Forward planning for OO 5.0

2014-09-03 Thread Mathias Röllig

Am 06.05.2014 um 10:49 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

Now that OO 4.1 is released (and the tidy up of loose ends is in
progress), perhaps it is time to start discussion on proposals for
improvements and additions to OO 5.0.

Where should this best be done?


After 4 month I ask if there is a place found to discuss and collect 
features and foremost bugs that must be fixed until 5.0?


e. g. issue 105098 is one for the Mac users.

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-27 Thread Mathias Röllig

I have contacted him. (21.08.2014) No effect. :-(

Only the question where he can find a helpdesk for AOO. I directed him 
do the users forum (22.08.2014).


Seeing that he have test cases in the background of his screenshots I 
sent an email (22.08.2014) to Yuzhen Fan, because he is assigning test 
cases. No answer.


Who can stop him?

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Re: user mailing lists and forums

2014-08-25 Thread Mathias Röllig

 But it makes sense to give some more visibility to the current mailing
 lists link (the envelope, on the right column) and to add a link to
 http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html ; the idea behind using
 icons was probably to avoid to display English text, but all linked
 pages are in English anyway... If you have any suggestions on how to
 arrange it (with these two indirect links, to the pages describing
 English and N-L lists) we can take a look.

After reading your answer I found the icons. :-)
They are placed above the search field therefore for me they looked 
liked as action icons (support mail/form, voting via g+) so I ignored them.




I suggest that https://forum.openoffice.org/ should be extended with the
user mailing lists (only user! no dev/qa/…!) to have the supporting ways
in one place for near all languages.
Language (ID) - User Forum - User Mailing List


To avoid too many requests from unsubscribed senders, we shouldn't
simply list all mailing lists.


This is a good reason, but
(1) http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
and
(2) http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
provide the direct posting addresses.

So IMO it would be better to have a help text how to use mailinglists 
like Using Mailing Lists and Participation Guidelines at (1) but 
with the first step:

To use a mailinglist you have to subscribe to this mailing lists!

In the table there should only a mailto-link to the list-subscribe@... 
and a link to only one mail archive for this list.


col1: Language (ID)
col2: User Forum
col3: Subscription Link to Mailing List
col4: Link to Mail Archive
right beside the table: How to use mailinglists

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Re: problem with current (August) mail archive for users

2014-08-23 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Andrea!


If I open the August archive for openoffice-users mailing list I get no
messages in threaded view.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/201408.mbox/browser



Confirmed, but actually it's enough to click on Message list to see
messages. The archives are not under our control. I opened
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8234 for Infra to check and
you may follow that one. It's also possible that Infra concludes that
this is some obscure bug of the underlying software, in which case you
should report the issue to mbox-dev at httpd.apache.org (the dev list
for that project).



Thank you!
It seems something like this(?):
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52247
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55981

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problem with current (August) mail archive for users

2014-08-22 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

If I open the August archive for openoffice-users mailing list I get no 
messages in threaded view.


http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/201408.mbox/browser

But all looks O.K. in flat view.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/201408.mbox/thread

Sorting by Date shows the messages.

This problem appears only for August. Maybe a temporary problem?

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outdated sites

2014-08-22 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

The following sites seems not to be linked inside the OpenOffice online 
presence, looked outdated but listed in search results:


http://www.openoffice.org/product/windows.html
http://www.openoffice.org/product/mac.html
http://www.openoffice.org/product/linux.html

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo40.html

I seem to remember that WinXP isn't supported furthermore. Is it?

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user mailing lists and forums

2014-08-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

I suggest that https://forum.openoffice.org/ should be extended with the 
user mailing lists (only user! no dev/qa/…!) to have the supporting ways 
in one place for near all languages.


Language (ID) - User Forum - User Mailing List

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!


Since a couple of days, we have plenty of reports from end-users.
Some people sent so many issues as by example: http://tinyurl.com/ker7vkj
For me, it must be posted on support forum or dedicated mailing list users@
Maybe a phrase to warn end-users will be better?


I want to close this mass mailings with the following text:

--
This is the issue reporting system for Apache OpenOffice.

For help in using AOO please ask at a user forum or a user mailing list 
in your preferred language.

https://forum.openoffice.org/

If other users can confirm that you find a problem located in the 
application, every reproducible bug report is welcome.

https://www.openoffice.org/qa/issue_handling/basic_rules.html
--


Can anyone correct my english? Maybe some changes/additions?

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PS: Please have also a look at my e-mail Link to oooforum.

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

On 8/21/14, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

I dont think this is a good idea, I read a few reports and I find them
legitimately. Meaning some of those are well documented and agree that
they should be actually solved and fixed.


I've looked into his issues. He simply don't know what he is doing in 
Base. That has nothing to do with QA!


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Link to oooforum

2014-08-20 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

https://www.openoffice.org/support/ links to www.oooforum.org (The 
(Unofficial) OpenOffice Forum) but it seems down.


If so (permanent down) the link should be deleted.

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Re: Bug 125348

2014-08-17 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo Mechthilde!


Zunächst der Hinweis, dass es für das Reproduzieren eines Issues wenig
hilfreich ist, wenn sich die Fehlermeldung auf eine ältere Version
bezieht und keinen Hinweise auf die aktuelle Version enthält.


Wie meinst Du das?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_activity.cgi?id=125348

Das Versionsfeld soll die älteste Version benennen, in der das Problem 
auftritt. Und es tritt unter Ubuntu mit allen 4er Versionen auf.


In Kommentar 0 steht auch eindeutig, daß mir das Problem zuerst in den 
aktuellen Releasekandidaten aufgefallen ist. Eher zufällig; denn wie ich 
schrieb, ist die Seitenleiste bei mir kaum in Benutzung.



Damit kann nach meinem Verständnis der Issue als worksforme in version
4.1.0 geschlossen werden.


Sehe ich nicht so:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_status
WORKSFORME: All attempts at reproducing this issue were futile, and 
reading the code produces no clues as to why the described behavior 
would occur. If more information appears later, the issue can be reopened.



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Re: Bug 125348

2014-08-16 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo Jörg!


Kann
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125348
wirklich niemand nachvollziehen?


Für mich mit AOO 4.1.0 unter Windows 7 _nicht_ nachvollziehbar.


Es betrifft offensichtlich nicht nur die deutsche Version, tritt aber 
(nach Deinem Test) nur unter Linux auf.


Danke!
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Re: Bug 125348

2014-08-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hallo Josef!


Kann https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125348 wirklich
niemand nachvollziehen?

Ich selbst bin kein Fan der Sidebar - mich stört es also am
wenigsten.


Nutze die Sidebar aufgrund meines Monitors (5:4) nicht.
Mit Breitmonitoren dürfte sie durchaus von Vorteil sein.


Dafür gibt es den Gestalter, den Navigator, ggf. andere Fenster, die 
sich einzeln nach Bedarf andocken lassen. Der Vorteil dabei ist, dass 
sie auch parallel nutzbar sind, was in Form der Sidebar nicht möglich ist.


Warum ich aber die Sidebar ablehne, hat einen anderen Grund. StarOffice 
als Vorläufer von OpenOffice war angetreten, die bessere Alternative im 
Büro sein und u. a. die Erstellung und Pflege von Dokumenten durch die 
Nutzung von Vorlagen zu vereinfachen. Wer einmal vor der Aufgabe stand, 
in einem Büro mehrere Dokumente umformatieren zu müssen, der weiß es zu 
schätzen, wenn die Dokumente in ihrem Aufbau strukturiert und 
entsprechend der Struktur mit Formatvorlagen versehen wurden. Hart 
formatierte Dokumente sind dafür ein Grauen.


Verlage, Ministerien und alle Institutionen, die Schriftsätze geliefert 
bekommen, die für den Druck (ggf. in unterschiedlichen Größen) 
formatiert werden müssen, würden sich alle zehn Finger nach einer 
Software lecken, die konsequent das Erstellen strukturierter (und 
ausschließlich mit vorgegebenen Formatvorlagen formatierter) Dokumente 
ermöglicht.



Und die Sidebar verführt zum stetigen harten Formatieren. :-(

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Re: Bug 125348

2014-08-15 Thread Mathias Röllig

Disziplin ist das Stichwort.


1. Disziplin muss im gegebenen Kontext definiert sein.

Beispiel: Ein Verlag möchte, dass Autoren für die Einreichung von Texten 
eine gewisse Struktur eingehalten wird und nur bestimmte Formate verwenden.


2. Disziplin muss eingehalten werden *können*.

Es gibt genügend Automatismen, die genau das erschweren.

3. Das Einhalten der Disziplin sollte so einfach wie möglich sein.

Ausgehend von Beispiel unter 1.:
Wie kann es in AOO ermöglicht werden, dass tatsächlich nur die zu 
verwendenden Vorlagen angezeigt werden?
(Vordefinierte Vorlagen werden immer angezeigt und können nicht gelöscht 
werden! Dazu gibt es auch schon seit langem einen Issue.)


Es gibt auch Vorschläge in IssueZilla, wie die Nichteinhaltung der 
Disziplin korrigiert werden könnte:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=75524
und alle Issues, die in obigen unter Blocks aufgeführt sind.

Aber es gibt auch Leute, die keine Ahnung von der Materie haben und 
Issues einfach schließen:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=75553
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=75546
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=75547
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=75549
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=75554
(Insbesondere
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=75554#c4
beachten!)

Würde AOO das beschriebene Bad Document Correction Tool anbieten, es 
würde in den genannten Institutionen jeder anderen Textverarbeitung - 
ohne Diskussion über OpenSource und Preis - den Platz streitig machen.


Schönes Wochenende!
Grüße, Mathias

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Re: [RELEASE]: propose RC2 on revision 1616946

2014-08-12 Thread Mathias Röllig

The RC2 is now available under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds



Every time when I want to download a new version I'm searching for the 
right language. In the tables there is German (de) located between 
Czech (cs) and Danish (da).


But: Czech  Danish  German
and: cs  da  de.

Could the first column be split into one column for the language name 
and one for the ISO-code and the tables sorted by one of this columns?


This would the find make much easier.

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Re: [RELEASE]: propose RC2 on revision 1616946

2014-08-12 Thread Mathias Röllig

Could the first column be split into one column for the language name
and one for the ISO-code and the tables sorted by one of this columns?

This would the find make much easier.


it could but confluence is a piece of shit and I have to save so many
times until it is really saved correct that I personally don't have
interest to edit it for now.

For the future it can be taken into account.


Thank you.

Now I located the mouse cursor at first time over the heading row of the 
table and found the (hidden) sort buttons (arrows). :-)


One click at Language and
Galician (gl)  German (de)  Greek (el)

It's the better view.

Maybe that
table class=confluenceTable tablesortertheadtr 
class=sortableHeaderth data-column=0 class=confluenceTh 
sortableHeader tablesorter-headerSortDown

could be defined and saved as default.


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Re: [RELEASE]: RC2 due to dictionary updates

2014-08-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

That means we will definitely prepare a RC2 and if you have identified
further critical and potential showstopper please report them asap.



Please have a look at issue 125348.

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Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 4.1.1 milestone 3, based on rev. 1611634

2014-07-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

The upload of the binaries builds is ongoing and can be found under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds


Please note that the links for the language packs are pointing to m2 at 
the moment!


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Re: AOO 4.1.1 - any chance to solve issue 124107?

2014-07-04 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Oliver


Is there any chance that inherited styles will work again in AOO 4.1.1?



As you might have seen:
The issue has been fixed and the is considered for integration into 4.1.1



Thank you for your speedy work! :-)

Have a nice weekend!

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Re: [REQUEST] help needed on newly submitted issues

2014-07-02 Thread Mathias Röllig

In order to support the developers it would be really great, if these
issues could be reviewed:


I hope, I find enough time to help.


Now I have enough time but can't help. :-(

Breakdown with bicycle, both elbows are broken.

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Re: [REQUEST] help needed on newly submitted issues

2014-07-01 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hi Oliver!


In order to support the developers it would be really great, if these
issues could be reviewed:


I hope, I find enough time to help.


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Bugzilla, [Issue 125155] add entry for 4.1.1 in version and latest confirmation fields

2014-06-30 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

The subject say it all:
Please add entries for 4.1.1 in version and latest confirmation fields 
in Bugzilla.


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Re: [HOMEPAGE][PROPOSAL] Alert box on top of webpage to announce important events

2014-06-22 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Marcus!

I like the fresh design of the download page.

So I assembled my suggestions with your proposal in the attached picture.

1. Because there are more than one versions of AOO to download, there is 
no version after I want to download Apache OpenOffice. Instead


2. The new version alert is placed into the download box.

3. No destroy of the layout by the important message.

4. Click here to see who it is is now not necessary if there will be a 
hover » like in the other boxes.



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