Re: [dev] Re: CMake

2010-06-11 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:55:59 +0200 Michael Stahl michael.st...@sun.com wrote: We did attempt to create non-recursive makefiles for CMake, and they are less recursive than they once were. However, we found it impossible to handle implicit dependencies of generated source files without

[dev] branchmirror extension

2010-04-15 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Hi list, playing a bit with hg I found it quite it quite easy to create extensions. First experiments resulted in the branchmirror extension which lets you update a set of branch repos (specified by regular expression) with one command, using not too much bandwidth. You will find the extension

Re: [dev] How to use DBG_foo?

2010-04-01 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:40:11 -0400 Terrence Enger ten...@iseries-guru.com wrote: Greetings, What does it take to use, for example, the DBG_ASSERT function defined in debug.hxx? I have poked around on the wiki without success. I have added enough #include lines to get the file to compile,

Re: [dev] Re: Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development

2010-03-31 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:52:18 +0200 Rene Engelhard r...@openoffice.org wrote: a stronger community means actively involving hughe parts of the community. which you don't. there's still many sun-internal decision just posed to the community as a fact everyxone has to live with. Who is you here?

Re: [dev] Re: Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development

2010-03-31 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:52:11 +0200 Rene Engelhard r...@openoffice.org wrote: How is patch -pX lack of resources? How is telling people how they need to change stuff to get a patch (which works for everyone else except Sun and is needed there) finalized to get integrated a resource problem?

Re: [dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development

2010-03-31 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:10:54 +0200 Sophie sgautier@free.fr wrote: The unbalanced was between the mail and the disclaimer on the wiki. Sorry that I didn't explain myself better adding confusion on something I found important. (BTW I never read Eric Bachard mails since almost 2 years or

[dev] Wiki Cleanup: Mission Accomplished (Mostly)

2010-03-29 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Hi List, the Wiki Cleanup has been almost completed. There are just seven pages left in: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages If you can remove those, please do so. Also note the new Guidelines at:

Re: [dev] Trying to build and hack efficiently

2010-03-21 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:45:07 -0400 Rémy Roy remy...@remyroy.com wrote: I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with the DEV300 branch. I've having some troubles building with the PKGFORMAT=installed option. I can build successfully but in the end my LOCALINSTALLDIR only contains an openoffice.org directory. It

Re: [dev] Coding St{andards|yle}

2010-03-10 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:57:12 +0100 Thorsten Behrens t...@openoffice.org wrote: sure, I buy those. Would then be worthwhile to re-def the types you listed in terms of their C/std:: counterparts. Can do that. sal_sChar is indeed unused, sal_uChar not so much (but there should be a trivial 1:1

Re: [dev] Coding St{andards|yle}

2010-03-10 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:56:37 +0100 Stephan Bergmann stephan.bergm...@sun.com wrote: Re wincing at obviousness of matching range: How is that any different for plain int (with INT_MIN--INT_MAX range) vs., say, sal_Int32 (with SAL_MIN_INT32--SAL_MAX_INT32 range)? Because our interfaces consist

Re: [dev] Problem with building Open Office from mercurial

2010-02-16 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:21:36 +0100 Lukasz Szczygielek lszczygie...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Linux Fedora 12 64 bit. After a configure and bootstrap and source LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh I discovered the problem. On the page I read that after this steps I should make: dmake but then I had:

Re: [dev] Problem with building Open Office from mercurial

2010-02-16 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:43:41 +0100 Stephan Bergmann stephan.bergm...@sun.com wrote: On 02/16/10 11:27, bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany wrote: For now I just changed the description in the Building Guide to do: cd instsetoo_native build --all which is what most

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-12 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:30:59 +0200 Rich ric...@nakts.net wrote: speaking as a user here, not a coder - if software can continue with operating, it should. yes, it should warn me, but it should run as long as possible, either allowing me to save the document, copy data out of it or whatever.

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-12 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:12:08 +0200 Rich ric...@nakts.net wrote: (non-product, i assume ?) ahem, yes. if the plan is to use these non-product builds for developers only, then i stand corrected and have no opinion on the issue :) Thats the plan as I understood Stephan (didnt he clarify that

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-12 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:43:29 +0100 Malte Timmermann malte.timmerm...@sun.com wrote: -1 for discussing here whether or not QA should use non-pros, because it IMHO has absolutely no influence on how assertions should behave. And if you want QA to use non-pros, they for sure would give up quite

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-12 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:34:33 +0100 Christian Lippka christian.lip...@sun.com wrote: So you see OSL_ASSERTS from your code, but you never see asserts from code that your code uses. Or things you break with your code in other places. Im covering very broad ranges of modules with DEBUG=true, not

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-12 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:10:01 +0100 bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany bjoern.michael...@sun.com wrote: Current situation: - assertions might be anything from a informal I didnt expect this external data to a critical internal state corrupt Desired situation

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-12 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:38:18 +0100 Philipp Lohmann philipp.lohm...@sun.com wrote: The obvious optimization for that process would be leaving things as they are and introduce an OSL_ASSERT_ABORT for those who really want that. still one would need: - to get rid of DBG_ASSERT, because it makes

Re: [dev] Should assertions abort?

2010-02-12 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:31:18 +0100 Christian Lippka christian.lip...@sun.com wrote: If we make the office crash in non pro than there will be never a chance to get the qa to work on non pro again. Depends. If we make the master crash on tests in every milestone, sure. As said before an aborting

Re: [dev] Correction in OO.o Base

2010-02-09 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:12:23 +0100 Svatopluk Bláha svatopluk.bl...@quick.cz wrote: Now, with which conditions I can obtain access to source code? Hi Svatopluk, see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide for getting started. Best Regards, Bjoern Michaelsen

Re: [dev] Test Cleanup

2009-12-14 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:06:45 +0100 Stephan Bergmann stephan.bergm...@sun.com wrote: Hi all, I just embarked on a new project, namely to clean up and consolidate the various test frameworks and corresponding tests available in the OOo build environment. ... Comments on all of this are, of

[dev] Building OpenOffice.org with GNU make

2009-12-04 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Hi Lists, The Build Environment Effort Team(1) has implemented a proof-of-concept on how to build OpenOffice.org using GNU make. The rationale for this is explained in this blogpost on GullFOSS: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/building_openoffice_org_with_gnu The Build Environment Effort

Re: [dev] How can I build source code using VS 2008

2009-12-03 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:48:21 +0800 Arron Xiao arron.x...@gmail.com wrote: I intend to build openoffice source code using VS 2008 C++, However, I cannot find any resource about it on your web site. Can you tell me relational link about it or give me some suggestion? May I ask where you

Re: [dev] interested in joining you

2009-11-18 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:56:42 -0800 (PST) Ranjeet Jaiswal jaisranj...@yahoo.com wrote: Hallo sir, I am an engineering graduate from university of Allahabad. Interested to joining openoffice.org Please tell me how I can start with you. Welcome Ranjeet, it depends on what tasks you want to

Re: [dev] Build System and visibility

2009-11-17 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:32:21 +0100 Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany frank.schoenh...@sun.com wrote: At least we'd need a makefile-clause for setting a default, /me thinks. For instance, for libs exporting the usual three UNO entry points component_*, I would like to have a make

Re: [dev] configure: error: Failed to find some (perl) modules

2009-11-16 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:17:40 -0500 Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to run config like that (from within a script) but I an stumbling on some missing perl modules: [...] checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking the Perl version... checked (perl 5) checking for

[dev] Build System and visibility

2009-11-16 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Hi List, again some stuff from the Build Environment Effort(1). While figuring out the way we build libraries with the OpenOffice.org build system it became apparent that we seem to have way to many redundant ways to set the visibility of functions. From the top of my head: - map files -

[dev] Getting rid of implicit dependencies on default_images

2009-11-13 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Hi List, While working on the Build Environment Effort(1), we stumbled over the implicit dependency of all modules generating resource files on default_images. The resource compiler digs into the default_images directory for the files specified in the *.src/*.hrc files. However, since there is no

[dev] Re: [extensions-dev] IDL references from the Wiki - via IDL tags

2009-11-11 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:17:04 +0100 Juergen Schmidt juergen.schm...@sun.com wrote: this can be seen more as a reminder to make use of the IDL tags, see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Wiki_maintenance/IDLTagExtension for detailed info. And while we at it, please also use:

Re: [dev] Announcement: Migration to Mercurial

2009-10-27 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:04:50 +0100 Christian Lohmaier cl...@openoffice.org wrote: Pushing the other ones doesn't do any harm besides wasting bandwidth on a push. Thats not entirely true. This is the way there is harm by adding superficial heads to an outgoing repo: - RelEng expects a cws repo

Re: [dev] Announcement: Migration to Mercurial

2009-10-27 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:22:31 +0100 Jens-Heiner Rechtien jens-heiner.recht...@sun.com wrote: Actually, I'm thinking about a hook which will prevent the creation of new heads on the outgoing repositories. Not yet implemented, though. This time, unlike last time, I am against such a hook. ;-) If

Re: [dev] Announcement: Migration to Mercurial

2009-10-27 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:25:40 +0100 Jens-Heiner Rechtien jens-heiner.recht...@sun.com wrote: Regarding your idea with reorganizing the pages. I like that :-). Maybe we could just forward the old pages to the new ones (only the OOo and Mercurial one, no need to bother with rest). All pages

[dev] OpenOffice.org Wiki Categories

2009-10-26 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Hi List, I tried to add a bit of structure to to the categories used on the Openoffice.org Wiki. I hope the most important ones are now a direct or indirect subcategory of the MainIndex at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:MainIndex Please check, if your category has found a

Re: [dev] OpenOffice.org Wiki Categories

2009-10-26 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:38:44 +0100 Juergen Schmidt juergen.schm...@sun.com wrote: it seems to be a good start but probably some more main categories are necessary. But then the question is if we need it at all or if a reworked main page would help to navigate in and through the wiki. Without

Re: [dev] OpenOffice.org Wiki Categories

2009-10-26 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:59:28 +0100 Juergen Schmidt juergen.schm...@sun.com wrote: bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany wrote: ah i see, but Marketing is so important from my point of view that i wouldn't have searched under Project. Well but that is my personal problem

[dev] Re: Moving files in a Subversion CWS

2008-12-08 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: Hi, I wouldn't call for a complete ban but it looks like one has to be extra careful. Restructuring should be done in CWS which lives only a very short time. Best, say, opened on one milestone and integrated in the next (as first CWS) this would minimize the

[dev] Re: Moving files in a Subversion CWS

2008-12-08 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Perhaps a postprocess hook which sends mails to EIS, keeping track of moved files, and issueing warnings upon integration when some change is about to be lost? I fear this is not possible in post-commit, as the info that something was a move

[dev] Re: Writer Code Conventions / Cpp Coding Standards

2008-10-21 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/20/08 15:05, Thorsten Behrens wrote: I see. But this surely doesn't apply to all-new files, no? No (other than that you cannot checkout a file that exists in a working copy using a different case, but that is to be expected with caseinsensitive filesystems). (is there an svn bug filed

[dev] Subversion precommit hook

2008-10-20 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
Hi list, since we now have subversion, we might as well use the new features it provides. I wrote a precommit hook on the weekend that does some precommit sanity checks: - It rejects commits changing files in a cws and outside of it (thus hopefully preventing some accidental commits to a

Re: [dev] Subversion precommit hook

2008-10-20 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/20/08 12:56, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: ... modules ... Not sure this is needed. AFAIK it is (at least in CVS times it was) necessary to do other things for adding a new module (announcement to releng etc.), so just preventing the commit doesn't really solve a

Re: [dev] Subversion precommit hook

2008-10-20 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/20/08 12:51, Rene Engelhard wrote: How should that be possible when you svn switch a complete tree to a cws (which you should do)? There's no need for any checks at all, if everybody does what he should do ;-). There's no modules anymore but one big tree. That check imho is moot.

Re: [dev] Subversion precommit hook

2008-10-20 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/20/08 15:08, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: See issue 95199 for my currently prepared (and already implemented) solution, though a post-commit hook also sounds interesting. I just tried to add an svn:ignored dir. That works. If someone does a svn diff in a module, and

Re: [dev] Subversion precommit hook

2008-10-20 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/20/08 17:39, Philipp Lohmann wrote: Hi, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: I somehow don't like tying SCM functionality to commit messages, but that's may be just me. And should we enforce policy (like tabs vs spaces etc) via the SCM tool? is there another point where we could actually

Re: [dev] Subversion precommit hook

2008-10-20 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/20/08 17:10, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: there was no need for crucifying yourself, server side we are python only. Actually we have no perl bindings installed. If I only had known that before. I like and know Python a lot better. I think we need to be a bit carefull with pre-commit

Re: [dev] SVN-ignored files

2008-10-16 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/16/08 15:41, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: [...] There is another reason to use svn:ignore set in the repo: There is no way to check if all of us lazy devs really set the stuff in our local svn config. Having svn:ignore on the output tree dirs should make it extra hard for one lazy/tired

Re: [dev] SVN-ignored files

2008-10-16 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/16/08 11:00, Malte Timmermann wrote: In short: Can we please add the platform-dependent output tree names as svn:ignore property to all modules? +1 +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

[dev] SVN Hooks for formatting (was: Re: [dev] VCS Keywords in License Headers)

2008-10-07 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On 10/06/08 09:57, Caolán McNamara wrote: And subversion (like cvs) has a precommit hook that can e.g. reject files with tabs in them. e.g. http://wordaligned.org/articles/a-subversion-pre-commit-hook +1 I would really appreciate such a hook, I just didnt dare to propose this yet. Have