+1,
we (OpenEJB ;)) are waiting bval and owb and clearly next release can be a
first step before THE release :).
- Romain
2012/3/19 Matt Benson
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > I want to volunteer to do it I have not done anything for BVal since
Hi,
i love it! wonder if the bean is still mandatory or if it couldn't be more
"nowadays" without
- Romain
2012/5/15 Gerhard Petracek
> hi @ all,
>
> adonis raduca (our designer) sent a suggestion for a new logo [1].
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/bval/logo
+1 we wait owb so if bval can be out before/at the same time it can be
awesome
Le 17 sept. 2012 18:24, "Matt Benson" a écrit :
> Hi all,
> I consider https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BVAL-111 to be
> quite a serious problem. Having fixed it, I would like to roll a 0.5
> release right away
For info: TCK passed on TomEE and OpenEJB with the release staging repo
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> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
> > I've created a 0.5 release candi
Hi,
not that bad ;)
i'd put a little logo on the top (like on owb) and put the home page
one a little smaller (you should have a really big screen compared to
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you said all :p
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2012/12/13 Matt Benson :
> What browser are you guys using? The image is getting resized huge on
>
Hi guys,
would be great to start working on bval 1.1 but we need to correctly handle
bval 1.0.
ATM the last release is 0.5 and the trunk is 0.6-SNAPSHOT. Discussing about
it with Mark we thought it would be great to get a bval-1.0 maybe then
update trunk to work on 1.1.
wdyt?
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about cdi interceptor stuff we have it in tomee for years:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee/tomee/trunk/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/bval/BeanValidationAppendixInterceptor.java
just need to use bval 1.1 APIs
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is a
start.
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If bval 1.0 is the spec 1.0, 1.1 impl will be 2.0 (like tomcat) IMO...but
honestly i dont really care while it is clear
Le 15 juil. 2013 22:07, "Matt Benson" a écrit :
> Do we want to do this (go to v2.x)? I had assumed we would follow the lead
> of e.g. MyFaces, OWB and have our version numbers
tests are fixed so not a
big issue ATM IMO.
PS2: if you have other idea to pass the info feel free to play with it, i
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, max = 5)
private String fullname;
}
It doesn't look bad to me but wdyt?
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javax.validation
validation-api
-1.0.0.GA
+1.1.0.Final
org.apache.bval
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not exactly, my bench (which was simpler than this one) showed it was
comparable (0.5 was good)
but in my test graph was pretty trivial
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hehe, maybe i found a perf issue,
when updating MetaBean i added a comment: // TODO: optimize sortings
and profiling it seems this comment was important ;)
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elapsed: 12.302 sec
Not sure why we are slow in multithreaded. Parsing is slow due to too much
reflection (we should be able to cut it but i didnt find how - help would
be welcomed ;)
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A little note: we are slow in multithreaded mode because each thread has a
different Validator instance, if you share it (which is valid regarding the
spec) we are ok.
Not sure if the test is wrong or just wrongly named.
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Hi Matt,
Maybe we can mention we pass all bval tck of the jsr 349 in the 11 branch?
Le 10 sept. 2013 22:03, "Matt Benson" a écrit :
> Drafted at http://bval.staging.apache.org/board-reports/2013-09.html.
> Please review and advise of any recommended modifications.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
Looks good :)
Le 10 sept. 2013 22:50, "Matt Benson" a écrit :
> Updated.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Matt Benson wrote:
>
>> Sure, thanks for the clarification!
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Romain
Hi
Tcks are passing
Le 17 sept. 2013 18:47, "Albert Lee" a écrit :
> Would it be feasible to release the current trunk content as bval-1.0 and
> create a branch as 1.0.x for anyone who has a need to continue with this
> code base, then replace trunk with bval-1.1 content, which will become the
>
Well for *spec* users it is not important Matt.
Le 17 sept. 2013 19:27, "Matt Benson" a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Albert Lee wrote:
>
> > Would it be feasible to release the current trunk content as bval-1.0 and
> > create a branch as 1.0.x for anyone who has a need to continue
> > On Sep 17, 2013 12:30 PM, "Romain Manni-Bucau"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well for *spec* users it is not important Matt.
> > >
> > You are correct, but I still say (and I'm not the first) that we need to
> > provide a stable API fo
Hi David,
Here it is http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/bval/branches/bval-11/
We pass tcks 1.1 but some perf enhancement help would still be welcomed
Le 22 sept. 2013 03:25, "David Blevins" a écrit :
> Thanks! Yes, I meant 1.1 :)
>
> Has that branch been created yet? If not is there a timeline
Hi
Any issue if I try (help would be appreciated if yes) to release bval
1.1 branch in alpha (I'll update version to 2.0.0-alpha1) tomorrow?
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2013/11/20 Matt Benson :
> I am personally in favo
updated to 1.1.0-alpha-SNAPSHOT
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2013/11/20 Albert Lee :
> I agree. It would be nice to keep the implementation version same
I'll ask G if they can release them
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2013/11/20 Romain Manni-Bucau :
> updated to 1.1.0-alpha-SNAPSHOT
> Romain
Hi
Bval only looks in META-INF but TomEE for instance (more generally EE
servers) handles WEB-INF case.
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2014-03-18 17:50 GMT
Surely cause if you go for a
programmatic choice you'll use annotations and don't need it
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2014-03-18 19:01 GMT+01:00 Mi
tomee parses it itself and then create the configuration itself. I
think we can wait tomee starts javaee7 to write it since it should be
very soon (when next release is done) and it would be the main and
more demanding user.
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Actually I'd expect the SPI to give the processed instance and not the
location. That's why i sugegsted to wait a bit for it to see the real
need.
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well this way we'll need another spi for TomEE which can't rely on
BVal for parsing. That's why I thought sending the parsing result
BTW any urgence on it?
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Well if we can avoid to fork/branch tomee before next release would be
awesome but yes it sonds reasonable and avoiding jvm SPI is awesome
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this looks ok but just wanted to avoid the "oh so goodoops" effect ;)
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2014-03-19 17:06 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson :
that's what I was thinking about but when I hacked 1.1 branch I was
really thinking adding it when integrating tomee to avoid a useless or
wrong SPI.
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Cause:
1) TomEE added some features relying on internal config (placeholders etc)
2) TomEE uses its own model for all EE descriptors whatever the spec is
That's not an issue on BVal side but it will need to be integrated
without forking as much as possible
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Hmm not sure spec allows it actually.
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2014-03-19 17:39 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher :
> So if I understand this latest propo
; > > Previously this could be accomplished by specifying
> > > Configuration.ignoreXMLConfiguration, but I don't quite see how that
> > would
> > > work in this case.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
ping.xml (I'm curious where the spec indicates that this
> >> > location isn't compliant).
> >> >
> >> > So in short, it's not that I want to be able to ignore mappings
> >> > altogether.
> >> > I was just thinking that if WEB-INF is a valid locat
Providing a Configuration impl bval will get all it needs to
execute. For executable stuff there is a property you can add but not
sure it will be needed for you.
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Yes, basically use your own representation of validation.xml and
create the Configuration respecting what is in validation.xml (kind of
custom to bval conversion). That's what we do (and we'll do) in tomee
validationbuilder
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not sure I follow, while @Inject Validator works it is fine.
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2014-03-20 16:17 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher :
> So doing t
if not existing and provided by the EE container which will be the
case for sure.
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2014-03-20 16:52 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher
to provide its own validator and validatorfactory for sure
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2014-03-20 17:07 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher :
> I'm no
BV is not EE aware so that's not a big deal. It works fine in META-INF
and in WEB-INF for EE case when the container handles it.
Not sure I see the issue.
That's the integration work of EE and not of BVal IMO.
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excepted the cdi integration is done through an interceptor getting
Validator injected so it still works, ot I didn't get the failing case
(possible ;)
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nstantiation behavior). If the BValExtension isn't aware of
> the user's configuration, this can't happen.
>
> Matt
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
>> excepted the cdi integration is done through an interceptor getting
>
Hi guys
OWB was broken in the version we use (release), only trunk supports it
correctly but it is a snapshot, not sure how to proceed on it since
now we have 3 failling tests for tck11.
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Any blocking if I try to release in the week? I'll go for a beta I
guess (1.1.0-beta-1 surely).
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well, s/week/when we have geronimo spec jars/ ;)
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2014-09-09 16:18 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau :
> Any blocking if I try
pushed, thanks!
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2014-10-08 1:46 GMT+02:00 Daniel Cunha :
> Hi Folks,
>
> I updated the TCK test version too. (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BVAL-133
ng version but with your change I find the code
indirected and harder to follow. If you find some methods too long
maybe just create few more?
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2014-10-10 2:48 GMT+02:00 Da
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; I try see something here.
>>
>> But I have a problem.. my laptop not build bval.
>> The build stop in Building Apache BVal :: bval-jsr 1.1.0-alpha-SNAPSHOT
>>
>> Linux 3.13.0 32bits
>> 4GB ram
>> JDK 1.8.0_25
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at
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Sure, default code shouldn't change. BTW I wonder why these
regressions were introduced? Any idea?
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2014-12-06 19:29 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson :
> Sorry; I ran the old T
Can hasSecurityManager be static? Cant it be set at runtime?
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À :
Cc :
Author: mbenson
Date: Tue Dec
Hi Matt
SKIPPED_PREFIXES was designed to be modifiable.
It is not sexy but idea was to let other products like tomee change it
without having to release bval.
Id be happy to have a Filter.accept(fqn) as well if you find it cleaner - I
think we should actually.
Wdyt?
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global filtering is set.
wdyt?
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2014-12-10 14:51 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson :
> On Dec 10, 2014 1:18 AM, "Romain Manni-Bucau" wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt
&
h can be big and classloader can be
slow (maven rr)
If it is bad we can change it later, we just need to tag it is internal for now.
> Matt
>
> Matt
>
> On Dec 10, 2014 8:01 AM, "Romain Manni-Bucau" wrote:
>>
>> I would avoid ServiceLoader if possible (at l
use a setter on
the extension as well (not easily doable for a user without knowing
owb code)
Without it tomee will need to wrap the extension. This is feasible as
well but I rhink bval can benefit from it ootb.
"
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Hi guys,
do we try to plan a release soon? I'd love to see it next week to try to
get tomee released for devoxxfr without a fork
wdyt?
I can do the mvn release:prepare/perform but I'm not sure how to do next
steps (publish the website and binaries)
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Will wait after devoxx now ;)
Le 3 avr. 2015 20:18, "Mark Struberg" a écrit :
> +1
>
> I could probably help a bit.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> > Am 14.03.2015 um 17:42 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau >:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > do we
Hi guys,
plan to start a release - bval11 branch - in the week when I'll get few
time. Anything to do before?
Could someone help me for the last tasks I'm not super easy with like
publishing webside and binaries (on dist)?
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Ok, we need "Apache Geronimo Expression Language Spec 2.2" 1.0.5 and OWB
1.5.0. OWB in under vote, i'll ping for EL API and try to run it beginning
onnext week if there is no blocker
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Finally replaced G EL API by tomcat one, should be fine for us, just need
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+1, should have been done ~ one year ago
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Is it possible to not use bundle for tcks?
I see it only as a cool dep for osgi/manual dep handling but not as our
primary delivery.
Wdyt?
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No we have to keep it and keep in mind 1 test is failing - spec
intentionnally changed.
Impl only 1.1 you can get a bunch of regressions
Le 4 mai 2015 15:14, "Mark Struberg" a écrit :
> hi!
>
> Can we remove the old bval-tck module from trunk? We still have the
> bval-tck11 module which tests th
s in the parent pom.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> > Am 04.05.2015 um 15:16 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau >:
> >
> > No we have to keep it and keep in mind 1 test is failing - spec
> > intentionnally changed.
> >
> > Impl only 1.1 you can get
olations. Expected: 1 Actual: 2 expected:<1>
> but was:<2>
>
>
> this one?
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> > Am 04.05.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau >:
> >
> > Yes, think i didnt exclude the failing test yet but then we can run it by
&
should be reverted for osgi Mark
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nd that is not a profile on
by default so:
+1
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yes it works, just wanted to mention the repo is missing OOTB (but once
again not a blocker being seen which module is considered)
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Hi guys
I would need some help for commons-weaver-maven-plugin setup, i commented
it out cause it was just hanging. Any inputs/help on that?
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seems a bug in 1.1 of [weaver], looks fixed in coming 1.2 so just deployed
the snapshot and upgraded in bval to the snapshot
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enson :
> You got it. :-)
>
> Matt
> On Dec 23, 2015 9:48 AM, "Romain Manni-Bucau"
> wrote:
>
> > seems a bug in 1.1 of [weaver], looks fixed in coming 1.2 so just
> deployed
> > the snapshot and upgraded in bval to the snapshot
> >
> >
&
Think Matt is on it
Le 4 janv. 2016 09:44, "Mark Struberg" a écrit :
> Means we should push for releasing commons-weaver first, right?
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> > Am 23.12.2015 um 18:14 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau >:
> >
> > yep the loop w
FYI
not yet sure why - can be eclipselink recreating a custom Validator each
time or not but if you have any idea happy to get some help on it.
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The VOTE is open for 72h.
Here is my +1
PS: big thanks to Mark to have helped me to push binaries on nexus.
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quick up, we still miss one binding vote ;)
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With 3 +1 binding the vote passed. I'll continue the release likely
tomorrow now.
Thanks you all!
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The Apache BVal team is pleased to announce the release of:
Apache BVal 1.1.1
Apache BVal delivers an implementation of the Java Bean Validation
specification 1.1. The release was mainly a performance fix one.
Distribution package can be downloaded from:
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/bva
Hi guys,
last release is java 8 only, to go back on java 7 at least I'd like to
re-release, any objection?
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@Matt: not sure I got your question. basically we need to release using
java 7 during the build and not java 8 like I did. It is enough.
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java 7 or java 6 doesn't change the generated bytecode for bval. Java 8
sadly does/did.
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yep exactly. Makes tomee supporting only Java 8 ATM :(.
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Ok seems it was more vicious,
since I built locally bval to vote for the release I got a corrupted
artifact locally - of course used java 8 ;) - so seems bval is fine so we
don't need to release since the changelog is empty. Sorry for the noise
guys.
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ppLoader) of entire program which doesn’t know anything about
JARs later used in runtime. Same issue is reported under BVAL-140 which is
open since 10 months.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau and I had couple ideas how to solve problem, but we
didn’t find any clear path. My initial pull request (
https
out using bval + hibernate-entitymanager which set a
custom TraversableResolver and leads us to reparse all constraints. With
this fix we would do it only for ParameterNameProvider which is acceptable
I think.
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Hi Mark,
maybe @Valid since it is pretty close to the constraints.
Then think only Validator and ValidatorFactory are actually commonly used.
Rarely saw other ones used outside libraries.
2016-10-03 8:53 GMT+02:00 Mark Struberg :
> Hi folks!
>
> I’ve started to improve our API documentation as
If it adds some 100k we can keep the dep and propose a classified shade if
we want but for tomee the not shaded is nice.
Le 21 oct. 2016 21:03, "Mark Struberg" a écrit :
> Guess I need till tomorrow.
> Found a few things which I like to review
>
> 72385 Apr 7 2016 /Users/struberg/.m2/repositor
l runs (feel free to run tomee/tck/bval-tomee module after having
updated bval in root pom and build until this module)
If someone has 1h to test today +1 otherwise fine to do it to 1.1.3 (will
help in this case)
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> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Mark Struberg >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I proposed to shade it in as I thought we only use a few classes. Should
> >> max add 20kB.
> >>
> >> LieGrue,
> >> strub
> >>
> >>
> >
it is when the model is built so in a thread safe manner (enclosing code),
no?
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don't recall if I voted - thought since I recall reviewing it with tomee
but dont see my +1, if not +1 :)
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Ok, recall having done most of the setup so shout if you need me to reopen
it ;)
Le 10 juil. 2017 10:22, "Mark Struberg" a
écrit :
> Hi folks!
>
> BVal currently uses OWB-1.6.0 for the TCK. All works fine up to until
> OWB-1.7.2, but from 1.7.3 up it fails.
> I've now checked a few tests and I'm
+1 if we have all the github links asf created, users love it in general
Le 19 oct. 2017 22:10, "Daniel Cunha" a écrit :
> +1
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Gerhard Petracek
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-10-19 21:23 GMT+02:00 Matt Benson :
> >
> > > H
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