On 1/18/17, 5:11 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J"
wrote:
>
>Could we have a new namespace of AS components that are stripped down
>that are 100% compatible to the FlexJS side? People could start
>converting over existing apps slowly while still being able to deploy to
>their current targets. Could al
ssage-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 4:29 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [FlexJS] Some things still missing ni FlexJS
On 1/17/17, 3:43 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J"
wrote:
>I do not use AMF for enterprise level
On 1/17/17, 3:43 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J"
wrote:
>I do not use AMF for enterprise level applications. AMF falls short
>of our requirements. But the bottom line for us for converting to FlexJS
>would be seamless operation(look / feel / interaction) in all major
>browsers (excluding IE) and
See comment in-line.
‹peter
On 1/17/17, 9:11 AM, "yishayw" wrote:
>Kessler CTR Mark J wrote
>> the ability to compile it using our existing spark based projects
>>without
>> having to having to create hundreds of JS beads / customizations.
>> Understandably heavier, but compatibility is more imp
Kessler CTR Mark J wrote
> the ability to compile it using our existing spark based projects without
> having to having to create hundreds of JS beads / customizations.
> Understandably heavier, but compatibility is more important.
An effort is underway to create a component set that bakes in mor
rg
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [FlexJS] Some things still missing ni FlexJS
On 1/13/17, 12:44 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote:
>Well from my point of view it was the whole “write once run everywhere”
>thing.
>I was totally annoyed of having to write UI things once and then pat
On 1/16/17, 12:45 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote:
>I would strongly object to make the FlexJS Compiler directly utilize
>Cordova. This would tightly couple the two.
>Guess I just don’t understand quite what’s the difference between the
>CordovaCameraExample which produces a Cordova project, which
+1 to Cordova FlexJS Project Archetype (without doubt)
2017-01-16 9:45 GMT+01:00 Christofer Dutz :
> I would strongly object to make the FlexJS Compiler directly utilize
> Cordova. This would tightly couple the two.
> Guess I just don’t understand quite what’s the difference between the
> Cordova
I would strongly object to make the FlexJS Compiler directly utilize Cordova.
This would tightly couple the two.
Guess I just don’t understand quite what’s the difference between the
CordovaCameraExample which produces a Cordova project, which is then packaged
using cordova in another step.
I t
On 1/15/17, 9:12 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote:
>What exactly are you talking about when mentioning “Cordova Support”?
>Don’t we already have examples that are bundled with Cordova to valid
>Mobile Apps?
>What’s missing here?
Not sure I understand you question, but in another thread I mentioned
What exactly are you talking about when mentioning “Cordova Support”? Don’t we
already have examples that are bundled with Cordova to valid Mobile Apps?
What’s missing here?
Chris
Am 15.01.17, 07:58 schrieb "Alex Harui" :
On 1/14/17, 4:00 AM, "Vincent" wrote:
>So what wo
Hi Alex,
I wasn't thinking from a strategical point of view but only from a
technical one.
That make sense.
Thank you.
Vincent
Le 15/01/2017 à 07:58, Alex Harui a écrit :
On 1/14/17, 4:00 AM, "Vincent" wrote:
So what would be the interest of choosing technologies like Cordova
instead
On 1/14/17, 4:00 AM, "Vincent" wrote:
>So what would be the interest of choosing technologies like Cordova
>instead of AIR to generate cross platform mobile apps ?
A goal of Apache projects is to do their best to be independent of
corporate influence. Flex is at Apache because a corporation m
Hi Vicent,
2017-01-14 13:00 GMT+01:00 Vincent :
> Hi,
>
> Regarding performance using standard display list, it is already possible
> with Flex to develop mobile applications indistinguishable from native ones.
> My understanding of FlexJS is that the framework is much lighter than flex
> so the
Hi,
Regarding performance using standard display list, it is already
possible with Flex to develop mobile applications indistinguishable from
native ones.
My understanding of FlexJS is that the framework is much lighter than
flex so the generated swf should logically perform even better.
So
2017-01-13 20:01 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui :
>
>
> why can't we call that our 1.0? What would be wrong with
> calling that 1.0?
>
>
As I said, for me 0.8, 1.0, 0.15 or 2.1 is not a problem. Things out there
taught us that number version not really matters
I'm more with the internal thinking that make
On 1/13/17, 11:13 AM, "piotrz" wrote:
>I was working on Big Flex app where we were using SOAP/XML. - I think now
>we
>can consume XML in FlexJS.
Yes. You can migrate today if you are using XML, only need to support one
language and don't use modules. Regarding skinning, in theory your
compan
I was working on Big Flex app where we were using SOAP/XML. - I think now we
can consume XML in FlexJS.
Another thing which came up to my mind - Did we ever write any WIKI page to
show people what actually option of data consuming we have ?
I think if it will be pointed on WIKI and in Release no
On 1/13/17, 10:28 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
wrote:
>2017-01-13 19:11 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui :
>
>>
>>
>> IMO, there are at least some existing Flex apps that don't use AMF. Now
>> it may turn out that we will have AMF shortly, but until it is done,
>>those
>> who d
2017-01-13 19:46 GMT+01:00 Peter Ent :
>
>
> I wasn't thinking of FlexJS/Native as desire to dump SWF and JS-xcompile,
> but FlexJS/Native as a new addition and option for folks who want to work
> in ActionScript and layout their apps in MXML but want a native
> application as the end result, rath
See in-line.
‹peter
On 1/13/17, 1:35 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
wrote:
>Hi Peter,
>
>2017-01-13 19:22 GMT+01:00 Peter Ent :
>
>> I was speaking to a friend that has some JavaScript developers working
>>for
>> him. They use React and React/Native for their mobile app
Hi Peter,
2017-01-13 19:22 GMT+01:00 Peter Ent :
> I was speaking to a friend that has some JavaScript developers working for
> him. They use React and React/Native for their mobile apps. His feeling is
> that web-centric apps (e.g. Amazon.com) are going to be replaced with
> mobile apps since mo
2017-01-13 19:11 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui :
>
>
> IMO, there are at least some existing Flex apps that don't use AMF. Now
> it may turn out that we will have AMF shortly, but until it is done, those
> who don't need it can start migrating their apps today. Some folks are
> already migrating.
I don
I was speaking to a friend that has some JavaScript developers working for
him. They use React and React/Native for their mobile apps. His feeling is
that web-centric apps (e.g. Amazon.com) are going to be replaced with
mobile apps since mobile devices are cheaper than laptops. They are
concentrati
The last time I saw webgl working was testing Unity 3D webgl.
Unity invest much effort and they got it working, but mainly on desktop,
and without great performance.
In mobile devices, was not supported (that was about 6 month ago), and when
playing on iPhone (for example) was really bad experience
On 1/13/17, 12:44 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote:
>Well from my point of view it was the whole “write once run everywhere”
>thing.
>I was totally annoyed of having to write UI things once and then patch
>and bugfix things for all the other Browsers.
I would say that fits under the "Developer Pro
Actually it would be more easy, if adobe just convert their flashplayer to
render on webgl and that would work for all...
2017-01-13 15:15 GMT+00:00 Dev LFM :
> Hi all,
>
> For me, as I since 8 years constantly developed content editors for
> printing labs (basically I would use a Canvas on FlexJ
Hi all,
For me, as I since 8 years constantly developed content editors for
printing labs (basically I would use a Canvas on FlexJS), it was the no
crossbrowsing differences, one player that behaves the same on all targets
(This is the key). My company currently relies on Flash to sell.. and
html/
I agree with Chris that target #1 is developers migrating from Flash.
But, #2 is a very close second with JS developers looking for better
productivity.
#2 is where we can have a real win in terms of adoption. I think the reason js
developers seem to always flutter from framework to framework i
Well from my point of view it was the whole “write once run everywhere” thing.
I was totally annoyed of having to write UI things once and then patch and
bugfix things for all the other Browsers.
But in general I think you (Alex) and I have one great difference in our
assumption of who will pro
On 1/12/17, 12:46 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
wrote:
>We need some strategy, and we must think about what others are giving in
>comparison with us.
>In LTE I think our solution win, but right now is complicate convince
>business to choose us over Angular/React, sinc
We need some strategy, and we must think about what others are giving in
comparison with us.
In LTE I think our solution win, but right now is complicate convince
business to choose us over Angular/React, since is world trending.
So I'm with Chris that we need to give things others doesn't have, f
OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
> If folks feel comfortable with the ease of use, extensibility and
> stability
> of FlexJS, they will start showing interest. At that point, any missing
> killer features can be talked about. Enterprise companies can join us in
> the effort to add any features they thin
Personally I really believe that I get a full time job where the task will be
move from Flex to FlexJS. As long as I have such faith I will be
contributing.
It is all about attracting by this framework not only developers, but rather
managers, PMs who decide abot technology in the company.
In my
Hi Peter,
is possible to expose the AMF services in JSON. For example, people in Java
are using Jersey (https://jersey.java.net), but that's not the point. We
can always do as many changes as we want...but we need to say to people "we
have FlexJS with AMF support and you can migrate from Flex to F
mething else. Having distinguishable features is
> > essential, from my point of view, to get people to try something.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet.
> >
> >
> > Ursprüngliche Nachricht -
Thanks. I was just wondering if you had services that used both AMF and
REST/JSON so that those Flex projects migrated to FlexJS could just use
JSON instead.
‹peter
On 1/11/17, 2:06 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
wrote:
>Hi Peter,
>
>There are new projects using React
Hi Peter,
There are new projects using React with Rest and Json. Think that was
started from scratch. I'm referring to migrate old systems that still are
stuck in Flex SDK and we have the opportunity to change to FlexJS. Those
projects was done with AMF (and as I said many others out there).
If w
view, to get people to try something.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet.
>
>
> Ursprüngliche Nachricht
> Von: Alex Harui
> Datum: 11.01.17 17:22 (GMT+01:00)
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [FlexJS] So
Excellent. Looking forward to it.
On 1/11/17, 8:54 AM, "PKumar" wrote:
>Alex,
>
>I have ported the following amfjs library in FlexjS and working fine with
>BlazeDS. But due to busy schedule i could not further continue on class
>mapping part. Currently i am getting the Object from BlazeDS with
Alex,
I have ported the following amfjs library in FlexjS and working fine with
BlazeDS. But due to busy schedule i could not further continue on class
mapping part. Currently i am getting the Object from BlazeDS with one
"_explicitType" field. Now i need to map that Object to correct class.
Hope
On 1/11/17, 1:43 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
wrote:
>Hi Alex,
>
>I think many people in this thread are saying "No, we'll not go to
>production without AMF and basic module support". IMHO, it would be very
>difficult to say we have 1.0 without that, since AMF/Remote
Question in-line below.
Thanks,
Peter
On 1/11/17, 4:43 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
wrote:
>Hi Alex,
>
>I think many people in this thread are saying "No, we'll not go to
>production without AMF and basic module support". IMHO, it would be very
>difficult to say we h
I think parsley and similar should be able to run in FlexJS as they don’t rely
on any UI stuff and as far as I understood it, the concepts they are based on
should work with FlexJS. Haven’t tried that though ;-)
Chris
Am 11.01.17, 11:04 schrieb "Vincent" :
Hi Carlos,
I agree with
ncent<mailto:vinc...@after24.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [FlexJS] Some things still missing ni FlexJS
Hi Carlos,
I agree with you. AMF support is essential for us to start thinking
porting our Flex apps
We’re using PureMVC with FlexJS.
From: Vincent<mailto:vinc...@after24.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:04 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org<mailto:dev@flex.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [FlexJS] Some things still missing ni FlexJS
Hi Carlos,
I agree with you. AMF support is essenti
Hi Vincent,
I think we don't have nothing yet like Parsely or Swiz. It's clear that we
need many things to be in the same relation as Flex SDK, but my point is to
isolate the problem, so if people want to change, at least make him to
create a completely new interface that affects only to the clien
Hi Carlos,
I agree with you. AMF support is essential for us to start thinking
porting our Flex apps to FlexJS.
I use MVC architecture with the support of Parsley 3 for :
- Dependency Injection
- Messaging
- Managed command (synchronous and asynchronous)
Is there an equivalent of this tools
Hi Alex,
I think many people in this thread are saying "No, we'll not go to
production without AMF and basic module support". IMHO, it would be very
difficult to say we have 1.0 without that, since AMF/RemoteObject was in
almost 99% of old Flex SDK, with some HTTPServices and almost no
WebServices
In my mind, there is little doubt that someone will someday implement AMF
and not-unloadable modules. The question is when? IMO, as soon as
someone can tell us they've gone to production with the code we have, I'm
willing to call that 1.0, and the people who wrote that app probably
migrated a sin
+1
2017-01-10 14:09 GMT+00:00 Fréderic Cox :
> AMF is also essential for us to take FlexJS serious as a replacement to
> Flex
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Vincent wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Same points than Christopher : AMF and modules.
> > The first is essential for us.
> >
> > Vincen
AMF is also essential for us to take FlexJS serious as a replacement to Flex
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Vincent wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Same points than Christopher : AMF and modules.
> The first is essential for us.
>
> Vincent.
>
>
>
> Le 10/01/2017 à 13:07, Christofer Dutz a écrit :
>
>> +1
Hello,
Same points than Christopher : AMF and modules.
The first is essential for us.
Vincent.
Le 10/01/2017 à 13:07, Christofer Dutz a écrit :
+1 for the AMF and +1 for not-unloadable modules.
I see it the same way as Carlos. At the moment I see FlexJS as an opportunity
for companies to ge
The problem with AMF could be what Alex mentioned some time ago. If there's
some C++ code in Flash Player that was making the magic behind scenes for a
super efficient protocol, and if we can super pass this problem in this era
of "no-plugins". We'll need to know what's the effort behind AMF, If
co
+1 for the AMF and +1 for not-unloadable modules.
I see it the same way as Carlos. At the moment I see FlexJS as an opportunity
for companies to get out of the dilemma of being stuck in a dead end with their
existing Flex applications.
Supporting things like modules and AMF will ease the migrati
"IMO, this has two halves: non-unloadable modules is relatively straight
forward to do. Unloadable modules will be a ton of work. IIRC, Flex 1.0
and I think even Flex 2.x grew its customer base without unloadable
modules."
If non-unloadable modules is easy to implement, I think it should go ASA
I agree that skinning is harder than it should be.
For one thing: There’s too many attributes which are set directly. More
extensive use of CSS would make skinning easier.
On Jan 8, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> From my side I’m missing skinnable components. I really loved the wa
Two things that spring to my mind are intuitive layouts and stability.
From: Harbs<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 10:18 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org<mailto:dev@flex.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [FlexJS] Some things still missing ni FlexJS
There’s one t
There’s one thing missing which was not really in the old Flex (or maybe yes
with the history scripts), but I think is really important for any single page
javascript application framework:
Routing (or what was called “deep linking” in older terms).
On Jan 7, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Carlos Rovira wr
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Carlos Rovira <
carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> Hi Om,
>
> about Yeoman, I didn't know about that, but it seems to me the same as a
> Maven Arquetype to generate a project scaffold.
> Right? If is this, we have already 3 of them (created by Chris, and we
>
If someone has time, add some of these to JIRA.
Which, if any, do folks think are 1.0 requirements? IMO, except for more
doc and tutorials, the rest of the list is optional for 1.0, but
volunteers are welcome to start now. Other opinions welcome.
Some comments in-line...
On 1/7/17, 9:39 PM, "o
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 9:42 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2017 7:59 AM, "Carlos Rovira" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I want to list some things I miss from old Flex SDK in FlexJS. Hope others
> could bring more if they want. Hope this thread could help us to know what
> people things abou
Hi Om,
about Yeoman, I didn't know about that, but it seems to me the same as a
Maven Arquetype to generate a project scaffold.
Right? If is this, we have already 3 of them (created by Chris, and we
could make more)
2017-01-07 18:42 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala :
> On Jan 7, 2017 7:59 AM, "Carl
On Jan 7, 2017 7:59 AM, "Carlos Rovira" wrote:
Hi,
I want to list some things I miss from old Flex SDK in FlexJS. Hope others
could bring more if they want. Hope this thread could help us to know what
people things about it, if someone expect to implement it:
* Modules (or how to make FlexJS lo
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