AW: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread Christian Lenz
So someone should merge that great work of Emilian bold into the NetBeans core Code. Maybe Emilian is willing to make a PR to the core Code. That would be great. Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10 Von: Emilian Bold Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 21:07 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org

Re: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread Zoran Sevarac
Hi Toni Try if -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=false in netbeans_default_options in /etc/netbeans.conf solves the problem This is the swing problem, and maybe we should consider using false as the default setting Cheers Zoran On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 8:02 PM, wrote: > It's a

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Chuck Davis
That white paper says to me jdk11 is the end of the road for JSE at Oracle. Without Swing/JavaFX I can't think of a single reason to have JSE on a computer. The message of the white paper was clear: both Apple and Microsoft own their platforms and the day is not too distant when both will

AW: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread toni.epple
It's a 13,3" FHD 1920 x 1080 with app scaling set to 150%. Not sure if that already counts as high dpi. Toni -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Emilian Bold Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:49 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: dpi on

Re: incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
I can't find a document explaining what dist.apache.org is. It seems to be the "staging area" for the binaries. My guess is that somebody fumbled a command from this huge list of steps https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README I don't believe we need

Re: AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 03/11/2018 01:45 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: > It is like rumors works. It is as it is. Some one said smth and > everyone is thinking omg. Me too, but for me it is clear now. One person in particular on the users list is making a fuss over it (saying re. Subversion that we should "discourage its

when does next code donation for netbeans happen ?

2018-03-11 Thread emiddio-frontier
Just wondering when next code donation for Netbeans will happen ? Thanks -Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For

Re: incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

2018-03-11 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > I can't find a document explaining what dist.apache.org is. > My understanding is that there is a staging area there ("dev") and a release area ("release"). I guess we shouldn't be pointing at the staging area

Re: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
> In my opinion, the correct fix would be for applications to provide > higher resolution icons :) It's a win-win for everyone. https://nextbeans.com/retina https://jaxenter.com/netbeans/netbeans-retina --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 11 March 2018 9:49 PM, cowwoc

Re: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, On Sun, 11 Mar 2018, 19:02 , wrote: > It's a 13,3" FHD 1920 x 1080 with app scaling set to 150%. Not sure if > that already counts as high dpi. > Looks like you're not alone anyway https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8187367 Not sure if there's a workaround

Re: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread cowwoc
I might be in the minority, but I actually prefer the new look. It makes Netbeans a lot easier to use in high DPI environments (yes, on Windows). Netbeans with JDK 8 looks super tiny. In my opinion, the correct fix would be for applications to provide higher resolution icons :) It's a win-win

Re: incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

2018-03-11 Thread John McDonnell
So the website should be updated and the netcat program notified to use the correct download. I can send out the netcat notification in an hour or so(travelling at the moment) if needed but I don't have the website checked out yet to update that. John On 11 Mar 2018 19:52, "Jan Lahoda"

Re: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread Tim Boudreau
IMO, if we wanted to do this and be future-proof, the thing to do would be to convert the icons to SVG or some similar vector format and update the icon loading code in ImageUtilities to use it. There are some tools - particularly potrace - that can assist in initial conversion, but deal in

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK

2018-03-11 Thread Antonio
On 11/03/18 17:15, Emilian Bold wrote: "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above referenced timeframes." Does anyone know Who? How? Terms? Or, how can we get involved? Yes, I sure hope Apache is

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Christian Lenz
As I understand it right, the SVN Support is still available in NetBeans, but the Problem was one of the components hase license Problems. Von: Emilian Bold Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:15 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN Could the OP provide a

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Christian Lenz
It is like rumors works. It is as it is. Some one said smth and everyone is thinking omg. Me too, but for me it is clear now. Von: Geertjan Wielenga Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:42 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN I don't get it, at all. :-) Why

dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread toni.epple
Hi, I recently switched to a windows machine. When building NB from sources and running it on JDK8 it looks normal, i.e. like 8.2, but when running on JDK9 icons are pixelated and double the size. Any idea how to fix this? I’ll show NB JShell integration at a conference on Tuesday, and

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Listen, no one anywhere has suggested that Subversion or CVS or anything else should be removed. Here is the start of the discussion, from David Heffelfinger on the users@ mailing list: "This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS

AW: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Christian Lenz
@banee as I mentioned it in some other Posts of me, that was done with Ruby and UML and what happens to them? Ruby is working but not really developed further and UML is Kind of dead. easyUML is not that good and well maintained. But as Geertjan said, SVN will still there. Von: Banee Ishaque

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Stephen Stewart
As a Netbeans user I use SVN every day. Please do not remove it. Cheers, Stephen Stewart On 11 March 2018 at 19:26, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I'm not aware of any problem at all with Subversion in NetBeans -- I think > this discussion started with David

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I'm not aware of any problem at all with Subversion in NetBeans -- I think this discussion started with David Heffelfinger trying to gauge the popularity and relevance of Subversion and CVS in NetBeans, for purposes of prioritizing them for NetCAT testing. Looks to me like Subversion has always

Re: Problem Reporter

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-164 and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-241 --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 8 March 2018 4:30 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Hi folks! > > Just a random user question from me this time ;) >

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
>> "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java >> ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above >> referenced timeframes." > Does anyone know Who? How? Terms? Or, how can we get involved? Yes, I sure hope Apache is involved. --emi ‐‐‐

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, it's clear Gluon is involved, for example. Gj On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > >> "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java > >> ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above > >>

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Banee Ishaque
A suggestion : Remove SVN from core - and make it available as a official plug in.Then if we need SVN - simply add a plug in is enough. In years ago - I used SVN and hg for VCS. But now git overriding them in my projects. On 11 Mar 2018 23:57, "Stephen Stewart" wrote: >

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
Could the OP provide a link where it was decided to drop Subversion? I just don't remember this talk. But, I might have missed it. >From what Jan mentions, only a Java SVN library was dropped but I think we can >still have Subversion support by calling the svn native binary? Obviously, being

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I don't get it, at all. :-) Why on earth would we want to remove Subversion? Again, this whole discussion started on users@ simply to see who wants to work on testing of Subversion and CVS in the NetCAT program. Thanks, Gj On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Christian Lenz

Re: dpi on Windows Java 9

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
I don't have an answer but, just to confirm, your Windows laptop is HiDPI, correct? --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 11 March 2018 8:14 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > I recently switched to a windows machine. When building NB from sources and > running it on JDK8 it

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 11, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Chuck Davis wrote: > > That white paper says to me jdk11 is the end of the road for JSE at > Oracle. Without Swing/JavaFX I can't think of a single reason to have JSE > on a computer. Maybe, but all the more reason for the stewards they mention.

Re: when does next code donation for netbeans happen ?

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
As soon as we can, trying to wrap it up at the moment. Hopefully will be ready in the next few weeks. Gj On Monday, March 12, 2018, emiddio-frontier wrote: > Just wondering when next code donation for Netbeans will happen ? > Thanks > -Gary > > >

Re: incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-bin.zip

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, sounds like the wrong download is being pointed to. Gj On Sunday, March 11, 2018, John McDonnell wrote: > So the website should be updated and the netcat program notified to use the > correct download. > > I can send out the netcat notification in an hour or

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK

2018-03-11 Thread cowwoc
Maybe... but it's not hard to imagine a negative spin to this story. Any way you look at it, recent events will increase the fragmentation of the Java platform. Oracle just gave away Java EE and Java SE desktop. All they have left is Java SE server-side and, to a great degree they don't get

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yeah, there’s never a reason to panic about this, it’s all good and how things actually work out is unknown. You’ll see organizations popping up that will take over the work, which is already the case with Gluon in relation to JavaFX, for example. Gj On Monday, March 12, 2018, Wade Chandler