[VOTE][RESULTS] Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-05-23 Thread Dave Fisher
e return of the website to our LDAP. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 4:04 AM, Murphy, Mark >>>> <mailto:murphym...@metalexmfg.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-04-02 Thread Dave Fisher
o that, it needs to be in a major release because namespaces >>> change. If we are going to repackage to support Java 9 modules, that should >>> also happen at the same time. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin..

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-04-02 Thread Dave Fisher
ds to be in a major release because namespaces >> change. If we are going to repackage to support Java 9 modules, that should >> also happen at the same time. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] >>&

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-04-02 Thread Mark Murphy
gt; > From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 4:35 PM > > To: dev@poi.apache.org > > Subject: Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars > > > > I have an experimental xmlbeans jar where I changed the package name to > org.apache.poi.

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-15 Thread Alain FAGOT BÉAREZ
: publishing poi xmlbeans jars forget JiBX, it looks deader than XMLBeans On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Mark Murphy wrote: > Anyone look at JiBX? it is released under the 3-clause BSD license. > http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibx-license.html. It contains some code that > is uder the A

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-15 Thread Mark Murphy
forget JiBX, it looks deader than XMLBeans On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Mark Murphy wrote: > Anyone look at JiBX? it is released under the 3-clause BSD license. > http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibx-license.html. It contains some code that > is uder the Apache 1.1 license which should be ok, a

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-15 Thread Mark Murphy
Anyone look at JiBX? it is released under the 3-clause BSD license. http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibx-license.html. It contains some code that is uder the Apache 1.1 license which should be ok, and some code under XPP3 which is not listed by Apache, but appears to be based on the BSD license. Conce

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-09 Thread Andreas Beeker
There's a workaround for the GPL problem: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-264 ... but my last experiments with the current ECMA schemas weren't so successful: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46869482/ On 3/9/18 2:05 PM, Murphy, Mark wrote: > Since JAXB is being dropped from Java

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-09 Thread Murphy, Mark
e JVM implementation, and the JAXB project is GPL code. -Original Message- From: Javen O'Neal [mailto:one...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:24 PM To: POI Developers List Subject: Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars +1 sending it back to Incubator or subproject of Commons.

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-09 Thread Alain FAGOT BÉAREZ
change. If we are going to repackage to support Java 9 modules, that should also happen at the same time. -Original Message- From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 4:35 PM To: dev@poi.apache.org Subject: Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars I have an

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-08 Thread Javen O'Neal
+1 sending it back to Incubator or subproject of Commons. +0.9 as a subproject of POI. Would prefer Xmlbeans to have its own PMC to make it easier for other Apache devs to make changes, but given how stable/mature it is, the support volume should be low. If/when POI does replace XMLBeans for a m

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-08 Thread Dominik Stadler
+1 On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:20 PM, pj.fanning wrote: > +1 > > > > -- > Sent from: http://apache-poi.1045710.n5.nabble.com/POI-Dev-f2312866.html > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional com

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-07 Thread pj.fanning
+1 -- Sent from: http://apache-poi.1045710.n5.nabble.com/POI-Dev-f2312866.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-07 Thread Andreas Beeker
gt;> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 4:04 AM, Murphy, Mark >>> wrote: >>>> If we do that, it needs to be in a major release because namespaces >>> change. If we are going to repackage to support Java 9

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-07 Thread Greg Woolsey
t; > change. If we are going to repackage to support Java 9 modules, that > should > > also happen at the same time. > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 4:35 P

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-07 Thread Mark Murphy
pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 4:35 PM > > To: dev@poi.apache.org > > Subject: Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars > > > > I have an experimental xmlbeans jar where I changed the package name to > org.apache.poi.xmlbeans just to s

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-07 Thread Dave Fisher
repackage to support Java 9 modules, that should also > happen at the same time. > > -Original Message- > From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 4:35 PM > To: dev@poi.apache.org > Subject: Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars > &

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-07 Thread Murphy, Mark
@poi.apache.org Subject: Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars I have an experimental xmlbeans jar where I changed the package name to org.apache.poi.xmlbeans just to see if it was feasible to get it build. I also have a poi branch that successfully uses this jar. https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-06 Thread pj.fanning
I have an experimental xmlbeans jar where I changed the package name to org.apache.poi.xmlbeans just to see if it was feasible to get it build. I also have a poi branch that successfully uses this jar. https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com/github/pjfanning/xmlbeans/2.7.0-beta1/ It should be feasible t

NABBLE Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-06 Thread Dave Fisher
My ISP suppresses Nabble emails. They are bounced - something to do with DKIM. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Mark Murphy wrote: > > I have a question. If we bring it into POI as a sub-project, do we have to > change its namespace? If it were added to Commons, would it have t

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Mark Murphy wrote: > > I have a question. If we bring it into POI as a sub-project, do we have to > change its namespace? If it were added to Commons, would it have to change > its namespace? In POI we would do as we wish. We would keep it as

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-06 Thread Mark Murphy
I have a question. If we bring it into POI as a sub-project, do we have to change its namespace? If it were added to Commons, would it have to change its namespace? Here is my rational for restoring XMLBeans to an active project or sub-project. XMLBeans is a stable project. It doesn't need much n

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-05 Thread pj.fanning
My attempt at a short description of why we want to be able to patch xmlbeans. Apache Poi has a significant dependency on XmlBeans. There would need to be a lot of work done to switch to an alternative (and this might happen at a later date). We have identified a few issues in XmlBeans that we wou

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - POI devs. Should we discuss quickly what it would mean to take on XMLBeans as a product of POI? (1) Move code to a POI repository. (2) Build. (3) Get control of website. (4) Release. Alternatively others have suggested the following: (A) Take XMLBeans to the Incubator doing the move and as

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-04 Thread pj.fanning
Thanks Dave. I think it would be good to get the XMLBeans JIRA project reopened if and when we get the XMLBeans project into the Apache Incubator. Some of the issues we want to fix are already tracked as XMLBeans JIRAs. -- Sent from: http://apache-poi.1045710.n5.nabble.com/POI-Dev-f2312866.html

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I declared Lazy Consensus on Board@ for POI to take the XMLBeans product. So far we have two positive responses. Do we have LAZY CONSENSUS? FYI - I did a full search of lists.apache.org for mentions of XMLBeans through sometime in August 2017 Here are the proje

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-02 Thread Mark Murphy
That will make things a lot easier. Thanks Dave. On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi - > > Given the Attic position and the mention of Royale. I will just take this > to the Board. > > They could take a resolution moving directly to POI. I will ask for this > first. > > Regar

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Given the Attic position and the mention of Royale. I will just take this to the Board. They could take a resolution moving directly to POI. I will ask for this first. Regards, Dave > On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi - > > As both an IPMC member and as a POI PMC m

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - As both an IPMC member and as a POI PMC member I would prefer that we direct to POI. I think we (POI) need to take over the XMLBeans Product. Regards, Dave > On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Mark Murphy wrote: > > So Oracle is removing JAXB from Java SE, Depricated in v9, to be removed in >

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-02 Thread Mark Murphy
So Oracle is removing JAXB from Java SE, Depricated in v9, to be removed in v11. I think we are stuck with XMLBeans for a while anyway. POI can sponsor XMLBeans which can then be put into incubation. At that point we can make updates. At some point XMLBeans emerges from incubation to be either a su

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-03-02 Thread pj.fanning
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/attic-general/201803.mbox/browser I think we could spend a lot of time on the attic approach. -- Sent from: http://apache-poi.1045710.n5.nabble.com/POI-Dev-f2312866.html - To unsubscri

Re: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-28 Thread Dave Fisher
You might point out how widely used POI is include Tika and Solr as consumers of POI/XMLBeans. Also taking it out of the Attic was previously suggested by others... Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2018, at 12:41 PM, Nick Burch wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, pj.fanning wrote:

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-28 Thread pj.fanning
1. For users whose only dependency on xmlbeans is from poi then, we can choose to override the dependency to point to any maven artifact we like: http://central.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/poi/poi-ooxml-schemas/3.17/poi-ooxml-schemas-3.17.pom 2. For users, who use xmlbeans but not poi, they can ch

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-28 Thread Nick Burch
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, pj.fanning wrote: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/attic-general/201802.mbox/%3C1519744891.257410.1285160920.6801732D%40webmail.messagingengine.com%3E Looks like we're not going to make much progress on resurrecting Apache XMLBeans. The big problem is with Maven us

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-28 Thread pj.fanning
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/attic-general/201802.mbox/%3C1519744891.257410.1285160920.6801732D%40webmail.messagingengine.com%3E Looks like we're not going to make much progress on resurrecting Apache XMLBeans. I've already put the modified xmlbeans code in poi svn. Can we just use th

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-20 Thread Murphy, Mark
be able to restart the discussion, and maybe start the process with the Attic PMC. -Original Message- From: Murphy, Mark [mailto:murphym...@metalexmfg.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:14 AM To: 'POI Developers List' Subject: RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars Here is

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-20 Thread Murphy, Mark
'POI Developers List' Subject: RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars I believe that we have already been offered that option, we just need a sufficient number of folks (I think the number was 3) to form a PMC and make a formal request. I don't think it is politically complicated. I don

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-20 Thread Murphy, Mark
y complete and stable. It just needs someone to keep it up to date with new technologies. -Original Message- From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:26 AM To: dev@poi.apache.org Subject: RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars I have a small preference fr

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-20 Thread Uwe Schindler
6 PM > To: dev@poi.apache.org > Subject: RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars > > I have a small preference from getting xmlbeans out of the attic but I don't > know who to talk to about that. > Would someone be able to point us in then right direction? > > If the attic approach

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-20 Thread pj.fanning
I have a small preference from getting xmlbeans out of the attic but I don't know who to talk to about that. Would someone be able to point us in then right direction? If the attic approach is politcally complicated, then proceeding with publishing an org.apache.poi:xmlbeans shouldn't be hard.

RE: publishing poi xmlbeans jars

2018-02-19 Thread Murphy, Mark
I think that if we are going to update XMLBeans, we should get it out of the attic rather than create our own version. -Original Message- From: pj.fanning [mailto:fannin...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:02 PM To: dev@poi.apache.org Subject: publishing poi xmlbeans jars I