Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/06/2015 10:00 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Germano Massullo wrote: For example, SSE3 instructions set is one of the minimum requirements and 99% of 32 bit only CPUs do not support it. Only Pentium 4 >= Prescott architecture supports it. I think building it with SSE3 is better than excluding t

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/07/2015 04:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.11.2015 um 20:11 schrieb Germano Massullo: For example, SSE3 instructions set is one of the minimum requirements and 99% of 32 bit only CPUs do not support it. Only Pentium 4 >= Prescott architecture supports it seriously? Probably. with

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/07/2015 05:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.11.2015 um 05:00 schrieb Luya Tshimbalanga: On 06/11/15 07:29 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: But if upstream doesn't care, it's going to be a problem. :-( Exactly - That's the actual problem. Upstream does not care and Fedora

Re: where is mariadb-10.0.21-1.fc23 ?

2015-11-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/11/2015 03:26 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: Hi, Where is mariadb-10.0.21-1.fc23 ? [1] says that have been push to stable but upgrading my system, mariadb is downgraded from mariadb-10.0.21 to mariadb-10.0.20 ! [1] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-13442 Broken upgrade path.

Re: where is mariadb-10.0.21-1.fc23 ?

2015-11-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/11/2015 09:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2015-11-11 at 07:02 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Other strange case is the package perl-Event-RPC-1.06-1.fc21 [2] even more strange [3] comment 16 says that push perl-Event-RPC-1.07-1.fc23 and one minute later comment 17 says perl-Event

Re: How to collect "bundled" virtual provide

2015-12-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/02/2015 03:46 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dne 2.12.2015 v 15:30 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): In accordance with the bundling policy, it *is* carrying a virtual Provides to allow us to identify whether it is affected by discovered CVEs. This

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/11/2015 05:25 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: So my worry is that we would be an OS which is more secure than others, but doesn't work in many networks. If something doesn't work reliably, the logical consequence to me would be to keep it strictly optional (opt-in) and not to make it default.

Re: Should 'dnf install gtk3-devel.i686' work?

2016-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2016 04:50 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: If you're on freshly installed Fedora 23 (x86-64), then dnf install gtk3-devel.x86_64 gets you everything you need to compile a simple Gtk3 application[1]. However on the same host if you do: dnf install gtk3-devel.i686 then there's a l

Re: Should 'dnf install gtk3-devel.i686' work?

2016-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/21/2016 12:45 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: We don't store libraries and headers in such a way that the different arches can coexist without clobbering. Headers being installed to /usr/include must be multilib capable. I.e. they either must be arch-independent or contain sufficient magic (condit

Re: Should 'dnf install gtk3-devel.i686' work?

2016-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2016 08:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I have filed a bug (against gtk3 for now) about this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1300432 I still don't know the cause of this issue, I don't think this is gtk3's fault (alone). It's possible to generate similar break

Re: Should 'dnf install gtk3-devel.i686' work?

2016-01-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2016 05:59 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:32:52 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: IMO, this is supposed to work => Bug The big question would be: Where? It cannot work as long as gtk3-devel relies on pkgconfig(foo) dependencies instead of arch-specific expli

Re: Should 'dnf install gtk3-devel.i686' work?

2016-01-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/21/2016 09:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 04:10:00AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/20/2016 08:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I have filed a bug (against gtk3 for now) about this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1300432 I still

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-01-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/25/2016 11:34 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: fakeroot (athimm, rathann, corsepiu, moceap) Are you sure the owners list you used is current? I stepped down as fakeroot maintainer and removed myself many months ago. Also, I noticed a number of maintainers on your list, whose accounts

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-01-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/27/2016 11:32 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Hi, Ralf. On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 at 09:28, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/25/2016 11:34 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: fakeroot (athimm, rathann, corsepiu, moceap) Are you sure the owners list you used is current?

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-01-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/27/2016 01:22 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:51:03PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/27/2016 11:32 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Hi, Ralf. On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 at 09:28, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/25/2016 11:34 PM, Jason L Ti

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-01-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/27/2016 09:37 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 at 12:51, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/27/2016 11:32 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Hi, Ralf. On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 at 09:28, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/25/20

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-01-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/27/2016 10:13 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "RC" == Ralf Corsepius writes: RC> Are you sure the owners list you used is current? I pulled them directly from pkgdb at the time I generated the list. There's no way that they could have been any more current when I

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-01-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/29/2016 03:30 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:36:24PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 04:34:55PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: perl-Affix-Infix2Postfix (steve, psabata) perl-Algorithm-IncludeExclude (iarnell, psabata) perl-Algorithm-

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/03/2016 12:42 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 05:26:23 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 06:13:13PM -0600, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: This approach really scales badly and creates busywork. And breaking rawhide however often due to unnoticed soname bumps d

Re: koji build help

2012-07-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/18/2012 02:53 PM, Raymond Pete wrote: Hi, I have a package which builds fine on my host, as I have my required rpm's installed. How do I install my dependencies in koji so the package compiles. For example, I need zlib-devel to be installed and lapack-devel Add a BuildRequires: -devel fo

Re: Ubuntu Unity has been ported to Fedora 17

2012-07-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/19/2012 07:01 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: Lol, as if that isn't enough, looks like they ship their own version of GCC 4.6 as well in the repo... I don't know what Ubuntu has been doing so far, but to be fair, probably all major Linux distros and, on a more general scope probably all OSes s

Re: Broken dependencies: perl-Class-InsideOut

2012-07-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, On 07/27/2012 03:07 PM, build...@fedoraproject.org wrote: perl-Class-InsideOut has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Class-InsideOut-1.10-6.fc17.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.14.2) On i386: perl-Class-InsideOut-1.10-6.fc17.noarch requires pe

No f18 in bodhi

2012-08-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, f18 seems to be missing in bodhi. I.e., ATM, it seems impossible to push packages to f18. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: No f18 in bodhi

2012-08-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/14/2012 05:19 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "RC" == Ralf Corsepius writes: RC> Hi, f18 seems to be missing in bodhi. RC> I.e., ATM, it seems impossible to push packages to f18. Until today, f18 is like rawhide; you build and it goes in at the next compose. To me, th

Unexpanded rpm macros in "Requires"

2012-08-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850628 has made me look into some more packages and lets me come up with this finding: There are several packages in Fedora, which carry unexpanded rpm-macros in their "Requires" [1]: b/beefy-miracle-kde-theme-16.91.0.1-2.fc18.noarch.rpm:

Re: rawhide report: 20120825 changes

2012-08-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/27/2012 06:13 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On 8/27/12 9:10 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: pangoxft should be a functional replacement, as far as I can tell, and the APIs seem to be quite similar. Actually I'm told pangocairo is the preferred thing instead of pangoxft. repoquery agrees: $ repoque

Re: Non-responsive pytrainer maintainer; anyone interested in the package?

2012-09-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/05/2012 07:02 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: Hello, Anyone interested in picking up pytrainer maintainership? It has broken deps as shipped in both F16 and F17 and cannot even be installed. Same issue is also present in latest F18 Branched report: [pytrainer] pytrainer-1.7.2-4.fc18.noarch requir

Re: replacing folders with symlinks leads to rpm cpio rename errors

2012-09-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/21/2012 09:22 AM, Julian Sikorski wrote: W dniu 21.09.2012 08:53, Julian Sikorski pisze: Hi list, one of the updates I am preparing is supposed to replace some of the folders with symlinks. Unfortunately, this leads to rpm cpio: rename errors upon an update attempt. Is there a standard wa

Re: Packages in need of new maintainers

2012-10-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/03/2012 08:23 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: As a result of FESCO ticket 952*, Lubomir Rintel's 200+ packages are in need of new maintainers. Under normal circumstances we'd simply orphan them all, but given the large number we want to handle this in a more orderly fashion. Please reply to the lis

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/08/2012 10:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200: Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01: Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result into this "old mother" type of user consider to use fedora. A user ultimately don't care

Re: [Feature Suggestion] UsrMove continued

2012-10-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/11/2012 02:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 13:11 +0300, Serge wrote: 2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote: So you make your system incompatible with every other Linux distro out there, and with all existing documentation, but to what end? Tidyness? Tidyness, simplicity, ne

Re: fedpkg / koji error

2012-10-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/22/2012 05:56 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 10/18/2012 03:57 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: I'd say the current behaviour is the quite bad, as it leads to different results when building with fedpkg and rpmbuild on F18. The real fix afaics would be to revert the change and, if wanted, define rh

Re: fedpkg / koji error

2012-10-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/22/2012 10:43 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 10/22/2012 12:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: There is currently no way to "undefine" a macro at the rpm commandline, rpmbuild --define " %{nil}" ? Huh, I swear I knew that once. :) Attached is a patch to use the %{nil}

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2012 10:17 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! Not so long after opening CDE they relicensed (Open)Motif under LGPL. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/motif/ Time to rewrite everything with Motif! :) More seriously: Time to move Motif from "unpronounceable 3rd party repo" into Fe

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2012 02:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:44:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Time to move Motif from "unpronounceable 3rd party repo" into Fedora and to consider rebuilding all lesstif-linked packages against it ;) Are there any particular drawbacks

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2012 03:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:20:01PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at this point? It's been a few years I looked at this, but the lesstif implementation was incomlete/buggy and some apps didn't run properly

Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

2012-10-31 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/31/2012 11:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:59:54AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: I think we need to give developers more time for feature integration after the feature freeze. +1 No matter whether we increase the length of development or not, the time between fea

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-05 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/05/2012 01:11 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:55:38 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: and one "stable" release ( valid for 2 maybe 3 years ) for those in the community that want something they dont constantly having to upgrade to and can deploy on their servers. ( ofcourse t

Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

2012-11-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/06/2012 02:24 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 6.11.2012 14:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov napsal(a): - Original Message - From: "Vít Ondruch" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:56:18 PM Subject: Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process So give me

Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

2012-11-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/07/2012 09:49 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 6.11.2012 16:04, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): On 11/06/2012 02:24 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 6.11.2012 14:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov napsal(a): - Original Message - From: "Vít Ondruch" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday

Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

2012-11-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/10/2012 01:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 00:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: So, since Fedora has existed, Anaconda's memory requirements have increased by at least an order of magnitude! How's that NOT "skyrocketing"? You're being pretty abs

Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

2012-11-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/10/2012 05:36 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 05:22 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/10/2012 01:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 00:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: So, since Fedora has existed, Anaconda's memory require

Re: macros.cmake: set -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=ReleaseWithDebInfo by default

2012-11-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/13/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Rex Dieter mailto:rdie...@math.unl.edu>> wrote: See also, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875954 orionp and I were discussing on irc today, the idea to add -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=ReleaseWithDebI

Re: macros.cmake: set -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=ReleaseWithDebInfo by default

2012-11-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/13/2012 02:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius mailto:rc040...@freenet.de>> wrote: On 11/13/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: I own several packages that use cmake and I've taken to setting the release type to RelWi

Re: LibRaw: possible license issues

2012-11-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/26/2012 07:29 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote: Why does it matter? Their code hasn't changed, and has not become GPLv3. The package is GPLv3+. It matters because Shotwell links to GStreamer. GStreamer applications either opt for LGPLv2+ or GPLv2+ with exceptions because they might end up using p

Re: LibRaw: possible license issues

2012-11-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/26/2012 07:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 07:40:10PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I am not familiar with gstreamer's internals, but AFAIIK, these plugins aren't linked, but "dlopen'ed". Otherwise these "plugins" would not be

Re: I want upgrade my computer

2012-11-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/29/2012 05:47 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 1 - Try Preupgrade but No preupgrade for F17->F18 ? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-August/109441.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipe

Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)

2012-12-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/08/2012 06:07 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Arun SAG wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:32 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: If we want to solve this we need to release an Fedora LTS release for our and the potential other user >base that don't hav

Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)

2012-12-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/08/2012 05:31 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: Le samedi 08 décembre 2012 à 05:12 -0800, Dan Mashal a écrit : In fact, I never heard anyone complaining about "kde is dying" while the numbers are much more worrisome : http://www.ohloh.net/p/kde/contributors/summary Maybe that's caused by

Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)

2012-12-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/09/2012 12:20 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 12/08/2012 05:51 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: My primary problem with Fedora isn't "lack of stability", but lack of API/ABI and UI-stability/persistence/sustainability between upgrades. In other words, I ca

Re: Release an rpm with a lower version than the existing one

2013-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/12/2013 08:35 AM, Alejandro Alvarez Ayllon wrote: Hi all, Not so long ago I took over an rpm called dpm-dsi, being the released version 1.9.0. The release of that version was decided by upstream. However, now upstream has decided to deprecate 1.9.0 for the moment being, since they conside

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote: > As mentioned before, if people run programs that require > /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with > it. > That terribly sounds like "my way or t

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/17/2013 02:56 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote: As mentioned before, if people run programs that require /var/log

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/17/2013 03:51 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > I don't understand why you are on a crusade to remove stuff > which works, even after people conceded to your desire > to have binary logs. > Because that is how progress happens? Progress? My feel is a new generation of programmers is repeatin

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/18/2013 06:36 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 14:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: We ask this constantly on Fedora. Because Fedora is where innovation is supposed to take place, not where things are stay frozen in carbonite forever. (And let's never forget that Fedor

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/17/2013 03:35 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:30:20PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: Is there a way to read binary journals from non-Linux OSes? Compiling journalctl on UINXy OSes should not b

Re: Grepping through all Fedora specfiles?

2013-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/22/2013 11:39 AM, Ville Skyttä wrote: Hello, I'd like to grep through all specfiles (and preferably also patches and sources in git) for rawhide, this time related to the unversioned docdirs F20 feature, and sometimes for other reasons. Hopefully there's a better way than to fedpkg clone a

Re: Grepping through all Fedora specfiles?

2013-07-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/24/2013 02:33 AM, Tony Breeds wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:01:51PM +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: On 2013-07-23 08:04, Ralf Corsepius wrote: For similar purposes, I have been using the CSV table returned by "https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/lists/bugzilla?tg_format=plain&qu

Re: /usr/etc?

2013-08-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/04/2013 01:16 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I noticed this: $ rpm -qf /usr/etc filesystem-3.2-12.fc19.x86_64 $ repoquery --whatprovides '/usr/etc/*' mirall-common-0:1.3.0-1.fc19.x86_64 mirall-common-0:1.3.0-1.fc19.i686 Since when do we have /usr/etc, and what is it for? Maybe I am the o

OpenSceneGraph-3.2.0/OpenSceneGraph SONAME bump

2013-08-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I intend to upgrade OpenSceneGraph on rawhide to OpenSceneGraph-3.2.0 throughout today. As a consequence of this, all libraries provided by OpenSceneGraph will see an SONAME bump, requiring all packages depending on them to be rebuilt. May-be, I am missing some, but so far, I am aware a

Re: Rawhide Koji Errors (Requires: /sbin/ldconfig)

2013-08-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/14/2013 12:59 PM, Christopher Meng wrote: Seems another victim appeared in test list. This time is for /sbin/alternatives. Sorry for no contexts, but what about removing /sbin or /bin from every spec? Not a clever idea. Very oversimplified, in RPM-provides/requires, "full paths" symbols

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 04:36 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. What we need is an "apt-get dist-upgrade" equivalent. *we have* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgr

Re: rawhide report: 20130815 changes

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 04:32 PM, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Thu Aug 15 08:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for i386 -- [FlightGear] [fgrun] Fallout of the OpenSceneGraph upgrade. Now fixed in rawhide. Ralf -- devel mailing list

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 05:37 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:32:27 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: what does *not* matter in case of "yum distro-sync" because it does also downgrades and if fedup has a problem with it the people who say yum is not officially supported (while no support in any

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 05:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 17:17, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 08/15/2013 04:36 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months.

Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild. Hi! A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhi

Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/19/2013 02:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I have merged perl info f20 and star

Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/19/2013 02:25 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: S

Re: Problem with sed in spec file

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/21/2013 02:00 PM, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: El 2013-08-21 11:49, Paul Howarth escribió: On 21/08/13 12:21, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: Hello, I'm adding a SELinux module to the gogoc package, as seen in this draft [1], and I've received a error about the dependecies. In my spec file I use thi

Re: slowing down the development schedule for a release.

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/21/2013 03:06 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:37:10 -0400 Josh Boyer wrote: As far as I know, we've done a mass rebuild and we've branched. FESCo has closed the Changes. Beyond that, I don't know what else has actually s

Re: slowing down the development schedule for a release.

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/21/2013 04:01 PM, Frantisek Kluknavsky wrote: On 08/21/2013 03:35 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: there are no f20 mock configurations on released Fedora releases in place Is fedpkg mock-config problematic? No. fedpkg mockbuild for f20 and mock -r fedora-20-XXX are the problem. Ralf

Re: slowing down the development schedule for a release.

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/21/2013 05:18 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:35:57 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: Just one minor item: How do you expect people to test f20 fixes at the moment? There is no f20 repo on dl.fedoraproject.org, there are no f20 mock configurations on released Fedora releases

Re: slowing down the development schedule for a release.

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/21/2013 04:39 PM, Frantisek Kluknavsky wrote: On 08/21/2013 04:16 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/21/2013 04:01 PM, Frantisek Kluknavsky wrote: On 08/21/2013 03:35 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: there are no f20 mock configurations on released Fedora releases in place Is fedpkg mock-config

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/22/2013 05:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month cycle overall, but just,

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/22/2013 05:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: What things we do _now_ could be improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass rebuild. Apparently les

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/23/2013 10:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: * a unified koji/bodhi/bugzilla Web-GUI You think BZ is slow now? What do you mean by "now" ... now as in comparison to yesterday, or in general. In general, my issues with bugzilla basically are two: - It's UI is clumsy to use for Fedora -

Re: [Bug 885474] make bails with *** INTERNAL: readdir: Bad file descriptor

2013-09-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/31/2013 01:44 AM, Philip Prindeville wrote: Hi Petr, Can you please tell us what you need to resolve this bug? I'm currently unable to do OpenWRT development because of hitting this bug. Looking at google search results, it seems to be a known issue but looking in the "make" project pag

Re: [Bug 885474] make bails with *** INTERNAL: readdir: Bad file descriptor

2013-09-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/02/2013 10:29 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 09/01/2013 07:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: "Deps on dirs" work on local Linux file systems, but doesn't work on linux nfs and is known to not have worked with local files systems on other *nices. Ugh. Does it really have

Re: [Bug 885474] make bails with *** INTERNAL: readdir: Bad file descriptor

2013-09-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/02/2013 05:06 PM, Andrew Schultz wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: As long as developers only work with gmake on local filesystems on Linux, they won't ever see trip over this issue. Actually, the issue here is that it doesn't work on local filesystems. Perhaps similar behavior w

Re: [Bug 885474] make bails with *** INTERNAL: readdir: Bad file descriptor

2013-09-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/02/2013 01:44 PM, Petr Machata wrote: Ralf Corsepius writes: I guess, no. AFAIS, this makefile carries deps on directories. This is a very old known general limitation of and portability isse with make and one of known "donts". "Deps on dirs" work on local Lin

Re: separation emacs-common into more packages

2013-09-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/10/2013 01:54 PM, Petr Hracek wrote: Hi folks, I would like to separate emacs-common into more packages (in rawhide currently). emacs-common contains all lisp files, info and man pages Man pages and infos should be part of the package they document. They do not belong into "*-common".

Re: fedmsg for voting?

2013-09-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/11/2013 12:00 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 04:53:59PM -0500, inode0 wrote: But anyway, if people feel really strongly about this, I think the opt out of badge tracking is an okay approach. (Even if it makes more checkboxes.) I find it hard to agree that forcing people

Re: Firewall blocking desktop features

2013-09-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/11/2013 02:46 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/2013 06:35 AM, Heiko Adams wrote: Am 11.09.2013 12:30, schrieb Alec Leamas: That said, I see your point. Seems to boil down to that only the application knows which port(s) to open and why,

Re: Firewall blocking desktop features

2013-09-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/11/2013 03:32 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 2013-09-11 15:20, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 09/11/2013 02:46 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Asking her "Do you want to make security changes to share directory /home/phyllis/Share?" Or Do you want to mak

Re: fedmsg for voting?

2013-09-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/11/2013 05:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Sep 10, 2013 8:20 PM, "Ralf Corsepius" mailto:rc040...@freenet.de>> wrote: > > On 09/11/2013 12:00 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> I think the benefit of encouraging more participation through voting is a >

Re: fedmsg for voting?

2013-09-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/11/2013 10:05 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) said: - a record of who voted for what has been kept since this feature was implemented: fedorahosted.org/elections/ticket/30 <http://fedorahosted.org/elections/ticket/30> in 2009. All election softwar

Re: fedmsg for voting?

2013-09-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/12/2013 03:02 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 02:10:05AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Since this discussion is now about national elections, which must be taken much more seriously than polls on release names: Can you propose a mechanism that allows the voter to verify his

Re: numatop: %{optflags} fail the 32bit build

2013-09-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/12/2013 02:11 PM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: I don't understand the last 5 lines of __asm in both functions, I've never seen this syntax before. It's gcc's extended asm syntax (Aka. "inline asm in C"): c.f. http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Extended-Asm.html ff. Ralf -- devel mailing

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/22/2013 06:13 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know how to boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there are more than one because they ne

Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20

2013-10-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/06/2013 04:06 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: fakeroot I don't understand this. With f20/rawhide as of yesterday, fakeroot in f20 and rawhide were identical, because fakeroot was built before f20 was branched: ./development/rawhide/source/SRPMS/f/fakeroot-1.18.4-1.fc20.src.rpm ./development/

Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20

2013-10-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/06/2013 07:01 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/06/2013 04:06 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: fakeroot I don't understand this. With f20/rawhide as of yesterday, fakeroot in f20 and rawhide were identical, because fakeroot was built before f20 was branched: ./development/rawhide/source/

Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20

2013-10-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/07/2013 03:49 AM, Tim Flink wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500 Rex Dieter wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I now see ... the version in f19 was greater than that in f20+rawhide, for whatever reasons. Actually, I wonder

Re: rawhide report: 20131008 changes

2013-10-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/08/2013 07:07 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: A big red box with: *This message could be a scam.* The sender's account may have been compromised and used to send malicious messages. If this message seems suspicious, let us know and then alert the sender as well (in some way other than email). Le

Re: rawhide report: 20131008 changes

2013-10-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/08/2013 11:08 PM, David wrote: On 10/8/2013 1:36 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/08/2013 07:07 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: A big red box with: *This message could be a scam.* The sender's account may have been compromised and used to send malicious messages. If this message seems suspi

Replies tearing threads apart [Was: %ifarch note]

2013-10-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/11/2013 09:26 AM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: (Currently my reply seems to create new thread...) Are you replying from a SmartPhone or other Android-Device? I have been observing this issue for quite a while and when ever asking senders about their equipement they replied "Android-SmartPhone".

Re: Alternative to Debian origins?

2013-10-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/15/2013 03:19 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: In Debian distributions exist file: /etc/dpkg/origins/default which is symlink to /etc/dpkg/origins/debian with content: Vendor: Debian Vendor-URL: http://www.debian.org/ Bugs: debbugs://bugs.debian.org Do we have some alternative to this i

Re: Alternative to Debian origins?

2013-10-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/15/2013 04:38 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 09:48:43AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: We have a number of _related_ things -- /etc/system-release, and the RPM "vendor" tag. From the given use case, in fact, I think that the vendor tag is pretty close. I'm not quite sur

Re: config.guess/config.sub for aarch64 (was Re: Mass Rebuild for Fedora 19)

2013-03-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/25/2013 09:36 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 02/08/2013 09:30 AM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 02/08/2013 07:12 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Dennis Gilmore writes: Additionally we will be mass patching config.guess and config.sub to support aarch64 in preperation for 64 bit arm support Hm, it woul

Re: config.guess/config.sub for aarch64 (was Re: Mass Rebuild for Fedora 19)

2013-03-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/25/2013 10:04 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: 2.69 added it, No - autoconf does not distribute config.guess/config.sub to packages. It's automake. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Recommended memory size for F19?

2013-04-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/10/2013 06:23 PM, John Reiser wrote: I was running F18 on an old notebook ... Question: which minimal memory size is recommended for F19? For graphical desktop, the installer currently warns if less than 768MB. Are these the installation memory requirements or the run-time requiremen

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