Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-10 Thread Taran Rampersad
Steve, I do not have the time to continue the discussion on your terms. Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: Taran, -- Taran Rampersad Presently in: San Fernando, Trinidad [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.knowprose.com http://www.easylum.net http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/Taran Coming on January

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Michael Maranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:03:33 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Thank you Mike G. for jumping in here. Your points are salient. I do agree and wish for greater meaningful

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-09 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow
, October 09, 2005 10:47 PM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Steve, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: According to Taran, Hmm. According to Steve: the Amerindians of Guyana are quite happy to hunt for wood

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 10/6/05 10:21:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Communication is no different. Consider Krispy Kreme donuts. They've never advertised, but anyone in the U.S. can probably tell you about Krispy Kreme donuts. Oddly enough, I've never had one - but I know about them

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread Michael Maranda
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Mondesire Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:24 AM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Every day we are bombarded with media

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread Dan Bassill
Message: - From: Dan Bassill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:00:07 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community I think Social Edge is one place to meet with a few donors, but I also think we need to think in much broader

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: But consider: Consider a community off the electric grid, using kerosene lamps for light, and blackening ceilings and lungs in the process. And spending hours searching

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
give hope, particularly to the transnationals. best tom abeles Original Message: - From: Taran Rampersad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:04:35 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: But consider

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread ehewitt
] Educating the philanthropic community Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: But consider: Consider a community off the electric grid, using kerosene lamps for light, and blackening ceilings and lungs in the process. And spending hours searching for incresingly scarce wood for cooking fires. Assume further

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread Taran Rampersad
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: According to Taran, Hmm. According to Steve: the Amerindians of Guyana are quite happy to hunt for wood to burn for light and for cooking, and would have it no other way. That may be. However, I would favor asking them, rather than having Taran speak for them. Go

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Dan Bassill wrote: We started this discussion following the announcement that the DDN was not raising enough money to pay for a very valuable staff member. My suggestions are focused on educating the people who we need

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 10/8/05 5:31:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Taran another argument could be made that electricity generation using oil sources does the same. According to Taran, for people who are unfamiliar with renewable energy equipment, there is also an environmental

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-08 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 10/8/05 5:33:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think we can, but I am certainly learning a bit more about the culture of 'the funded world'. Everyone in the conversation is not funded. Unfortunately, or otherwise, some of us do what we do to help where there

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-06 Thread J Cravens
Taran Rampersad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the point is that a lot of the technology we're discussing should be encouraged by critical things - not by things that artificially creating a need and building unrealistic explanations - I wanted to say hurrah for this excellent point. I know that

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-06 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow
, October 06, 2005 11:44 PM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Taran Rampersad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the point is that a lot of the technology we're discussing should be encouraged by critical things - not by things

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
services to funding agencies. thoughts? tom abeles Original Message: - From: J Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:43:52 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community Taran Rampersad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the point

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-06 Thread Dan Bassill
Unless hundreds or thousands of people who know how to deliver a message through the use of the Internet (and traditional pr) begin to use their skills to draw more people into conversations about capacity building, we'll continue to be a small group of people who are isolated and limited in our

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-06 Thread English, Nicole
Instructor, Program for Adult College Education (PACE) University of Missouri--Kansas City (UMKC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of J Cravens Sent: Fri 10/7/2005 1:43 AM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: - From: Dan Bassill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:00:07 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community I think Social Edge is one place to meet with a few donors, but I also think we need to think in much broader terms. Every day we

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-06 Thread Taran Rampersad
Dan Bassill wrote: Unless hundreds or thousands of people who know how to deliver a message through the use of the Internet (and traditional pr) begin to use their skills to draw more people into conversations about capacity building, we'll continue to be a small group of people who are isolated

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-05 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 10/4/05 9:20:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   Funders do not seem to value the role of intermediaries and of knowledge brokers. What we need to do is to show up at the think tanks that the funders use to generate ideas within their networks. But the cost of attending

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-05 Thread Dan Bassill
I think Social Edge is one place to meet with a few donors, but I also think we need to think in much broader terms. Every day we are bombarded with media messages educating us on some new drug, some phone company or financial service, or some food product or new car model. This works.

RE: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-05 Thread Joseph Beckmann
they don't deal with much Joe Beckmann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

Re: [DDN] Educating the philanthropic community

2005-10-05 Thread Taran Rampersad
Dan Bassill wrote: I think Social Edge is one place to meet with a few donors, but I also think we need to think in much broader terms. Every day we are bombarded with media messages educating us on some new drug, some phone company or financial service, or some food product or new car model.