Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 2016-02-22 23:32, jmh530 wrote:

On Monday, 22 February 2016 at 20:00:09 UTC, Dave wrote:


The Stan Math Library is a header-only C++ library as Eigen is. Is
there a chance to port such big libraries including many macros with
htod (unfortunately I do not have a Windows-OS to try it out)?


On posix, you could try dstep.


Unfortunately DStep cannot create bindings for C++. It also doesn't 
handle macros. Handle #define is work in progress.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[jmh530 via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:10:45 UTC, Dave wrote:


Good starting points for a GSOC project would be "to port" 
mc-stan.org or some optimization algorithms from Coin-OR.org 
(please let me be more particular and independent of existing 
work if there is any interest for such a project!).


This is what I was talking about:
https://code.dlang.org/packages/libnlopt
https://code.dlang.org/packages/nloptd

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[jmh530 via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Saturday, 20 February 2016 at 13:31:03 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:50:43 UTC, jmh530 wrote:

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:10:45 UTC, Dave wrote:


Alternately, you could try calling pystan or rstan from D. If 
you make any progress on these approaches, I would be 
interested.


If it has an R interface, it also has a D interface using my 
rdlang project. I will look at it when I get some free time.


R is the most popular way to use Stan I think. rstan is the 
library.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:50:43 UTC, jmh530 wrote:

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:10:45 UTC, Dave wrote:


Alternately, you could try calling pystan or rstan from D. If 
you make any progress on these approaches, I would be 
interested.


If it has an R interface, it also has a D interface using my 
rdlang project. I will look at it when I get some free time.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:10:45 UTC, Dave wrote:
On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 17:03:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

[...]


D is a fantastic efficient and fast replacement of Python which 
even has great plotting and other analysis features as ggplotd! 
To gain traction in numerical and statistical computing it is 
important to provide great optimization, automatic differential 
(AD) (reversed-mode AD (e.g. in mc-stan.org for Bayesian stuff) 
and/or forward-mode as e.g. for R at GSOC-2010 - there is no 
reason for numerical diff these days anymore, and you may 
mess-up your stuff using it!), and Bayesian routines. D is 
laking on these basic features (my personal opinion - correct 
me if I am wrong).


[...]


Well, you can always try updating the ideas page anyways.  Today 
was the application deadline, but I don't think there is anything 
they can do to stop us from updating a page on our Wiki.  Just 
make sure to add yourself to the mentor's page.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[jmh530 via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:10:45 UTC, Dave wrote:


Good starting points for a GSOC project would be "to port" 
mc-stan.org or some optimization algorithms from Coin-OR.org 
(please let me be more particular and independent of existing 
work if there is any interest for such a project!).




I've written bindings for nlopt and a wrapper to make it more 
D-like. Close to releasing it. I'm also thinking about doing the 
same thing for GLPK, but I want to do other non-D stuff before I 
get to that. The only optimization library I'm familiar with in 
Coin-OR is ipopt and that's C++, which might be more difficult to 
get working.


Being able to call Stan from D would definitely be cool. It looks 
beyond my expertise to get it working though. I think part of the 
difficulty is that while it is written in C++, there isn't a C++ 
interface. I think they are working on one though. I looked at 
the code for rstan and the command line interface and couldn't 
make much headway in understanding what's going on.


It should be possible to do some manipulation in D and pipe it to 
the command line interface of Stan. Alternately, you could try 
calling pystan or rstan from D. If you make any progress on these 
approaches, I would be interested.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[Jeremy DeHaan via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 20:08:43 UTC, Alex Herrmann wrote:
On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 17:03:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The GSOC deadline is Feb 19th 19:00 UTC (or 2 PM Wawa time) so 
any last ideas for the Idea's page are welcome.


Our application is completed, but changes can still be made to 
the ideas page.  In fact I suppose we can go on making 
modifications even after the deadline, as I have no idea at 
what time Google takes the snapshots of these pages for 
evaluation.  Thanks to Martin Nowak's suggestion we are now 
participating as "The D Foundation" (rather than Digital Mars).


Thanks to all who have helped out to this point.

Cheers,

Craig


As a prospective student, fingers are crossed for D.


Same here. I started working on some proposals already. I really 
hope D gets accepted.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[Dave via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 21:10:45 UTC, Dave wrote:
On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 17:03:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The GSOC deadline is Feb 19th 19:00 UTC (or 2 PM Wawa time) so 
any last ideas for the Idea's page are welcome.


Our application is completed, but changes can still be made to 
the ideas page.  In fact I suppose we can go on making 
modifications even after the deadline, as I have no idea at 
what time Google takes the snapshots of these pages for 
evaluation.  Thanks to Martin Nowak's suggestion we are now 
participating as "The D Foundation" (rather than Digital Mars).


Thanks to all who have helped out to this point.

Cheers,

Craig


D is a fantastic efficient and fast replacement of Python which 
even has great plotting and other analysis features as ggplotd! 
To gain traction in numerical and statistical computing it is 
important to provide great optimization, automatic differential 
(AD) (reversed-mode AD (e.g. in mc-stan.org for Bayesian stuff) 
and/or forward-mode as e.g. for R at GSOC-2010 - there is no 
reason for numerical diff these days anymore, and you may 
mess-up your stuff using it!), and Bayesian routines. D is 
laking on these basic features (my personal opinion - correct 
me if I am wrong).


Good starting points for a GSOC project would be "to port" 
mc-stan.org or some optimization algorithms from Coin-OR.org 
(please let me be more particular and independent of existing 
work if there is any interest for such a project!).


I am not a D specialist but getting more and more into it and 
up to happily mentor this GSOC-project (maybe there would be 
(co-)mentors with more D experiences).


(I already initiated a successful GSOC application on 
algorithmic differentiation in R together with John Nash for 
GSOC 2010 (student: Chidambaram Annamalai) - unfortunately I 
did not have the capacity to mentor/support the project as I 
had to finish my PhD during this time)



Sorry, I just missed that the deadline  is UTC 19:00. Maybe next 
year :-)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[Dave via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 17:03:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The GSOC deadline is Feb 19th 19:00 UTC (or 2 PM Wawa time) so 
any last ideas for the Idea's page are welcome.


Our application is completed, but changes can still be made to 
the ideas page.  In fact I suppose we can go on making 
modifications even after the deadline, as I have no idea at 
what time Google takes the snapshots of these pages for 
evaluation.  Thanks to Martin Nowak's suggestion we are now 
participating as "The D Foundation" (rather than Digital Mars).


Thanks to all who have helped out to this point.

Cheers,

Craig


D is a fantastic efficient and fast replacement of Python which 
even has great plotting and other analysis features as ggplotd! 
To gain traction in numerical and statistical computing it is 
important to provide great optimization, automatic differential 
(AD) (reversed-mode AD (e.g. in mc-stan.org for Bayesian stuff) 
and/or forward-mode as e.g. for R at GSOC-2010 - there is no 
reason for numerical diff these days anymore, and you may mess-up 
your stuff using it!), and Bayesian routines. D is laking on 
these basic features (my personal opinion - correct me if I am 
wrong).


Good starting points for a GSOC project would be "to port" 
mc-stan.org or some optimization algorithms from Coin-OR.org 
(please let me be more particular and independent of existing 
work if there is any interest for such a project!).


I am not a D specialist but getting more and more into it and up 
to happily mentor this GSOC-project (maybe there would be 
(co-)mentors with more D experiences).


(I already initiated a successful GSOC application on algorithmic 
differentiation in R together with John Nash for GSOC 2010 
(student: Chidambaram Annamalai) - unfortunately I did not have 
the capacity to mentor/support the project as I had to finish my 
PhD during this time)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Only A Few Hours Left

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 20:08:43 UTC, Alex Herrmann wrote:
On Friday, 19 February 2016 at 17:03:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The GSOC deadline is Feb 19th 19:00 UTC (or 2 PM Wawa time) so 
any last ideas for the Idea's page are welcome.


Our application is completed, but changes can still be made to 
the ideas page.  In fact I suppose we can go on making 
modifications even after the deadline, as I have no idea at 
what time Google takes the snapshots of these pages for 
evaluation.  Thanks to Martin Nowak's suggestion we are now 
participating as "The D Foundation" (rather than Digital Mars).


Thanks to all who have helped out to this point.

Cheers,

Craig


As a prospective student, fingers are crossed for D.


Me too.  Its been a few years now.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Tuesday, 16 February 2016 at 11:20:13 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote:

Am Tue, 16 Feb 2016 00:28:29 +
schrieb Craig Dillabaugh :


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I'd suggest posting this to D.announce, people often don't read 
these old threads.


Done!  Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Johannes Pfau via Digitalmars-d]

Am Tue, 16 Feb 2016 00:28:29 +
schrieb Craig Dillabaugh :

> On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 03:28:55 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
> wrote:
> clip
> >
> > I would like confirmation from the following individuals if 
> > they can mentor GSOC this summer.
> >
> > Iain Buclaw
> > Bruno Medeiros
> > Martin Nowak (and as backup Admin)
> > Jacob Ovrum
> >
> > And as backup mentors
> >  Adam D. Ruppe
> >  Dmitry Olshansky
> >
> > I will continue to polish the Ideas page until the deadline 
> > (Feb 18th)
> >
> > http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas
> >
> > but improvements by the community are welcome.  
> 
> GSOC deadline is Friday.  Would be great if I could get 
> confirmation from the above individuals if they can still mentor. 
>   Also, if you have an interest in being a mentor please let me 
> know, and I can add you to the list.
> 
> Also improvements to the Idea's page are welcome.  I've added a 
> few things (and subtracted one or two), but it still looks a lot 
> like last year's losing effort.
> 
> 

I'd suggest posting this to D.announce, people often don't read these
old threads.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 03:28:55 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

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I would like confirmation from the following individuals if 
they can mentor GSOC this summer.


Iain Buclaw
Bruno Medeiros
Martin Nowak (and as backup Admin)
Jacob Ovrum

And as backup mentors
 Adam D. Ruppe
 Dmitry Olshansky

I will continue to polish the Ideas page until the deadline 
(Feb 18th)


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas

but improvements by the community are welcome.


GSOC deadline is Friday.  Would be great if I could get 
confirmation from the above individuals if they can still mentor. 
 Also, if you have an interest in being a mentor please let me 
know, and I can add you to the list.


Also improvements to the Idea's page are welcome.  I've added a 
few things (and subtracted one or two), but it still looks a lot 
like last year's losing effort.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 16:16:01 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas



Craig


Just trying to keep GSOC on the front page ...

If you have your name attached to a project currently on our 
list please let me know if you can't mentor this year.  I am 
starting to get some inquires for students about projects (just 
had one about DDT), and it would be bad is some project that is 
currently on the list disappeared between now and mid-February.
 So I would rather clean up any projects that we can't go ahead 
with now.


I would like confirmation from the following individuals if they 
can mentor GSOC this summer.


Iain Buclaw
Bruno Medeiros
Martin Nowak (and as backup Admin)
Jacob Ovrum

And as backup mentors
 Adam D. Ruppe
 Dmitry Olshansky

I will continue to polish the Ideas page until the deadline (Feb 
18th)


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas

but improvements by the community are welcome.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Sunday, 7 February 2016 at 12:14:24 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote:
On Saturday, 6 February 2016 at 20:18:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Anyone interested and capable of mentor a student interested 
in doing FlatBuffers for D.


I could do that. Currently, as a side project, I'm working on 
adding D support for Protocol Buffers v3 [1].


Main goals of the new design:
- integration in the upstream project
- simple readable generated code
- range based solution

Of course, the same can be applied for the FlatBuffers.

[1] https://github.com/dcarp/protobuf/tree/dlang_support


Awesome! Thanks.  I will write up something on the idea's page in 
the next day or two (which you are welcome to edit of course).  
Also, if a student were interested in working on Protocol 
Buffers, would there be opportunities there too?


I also ask Mentor's to write a little bit about themselves on the 
mentor's page:


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_mentors

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Dragos Carp via Digitalmars-d]

On Monday, 8 February 2016 at 13:25:38 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Awesome! Thanks.  I will write up something on the idea's page 
in the next day or two (which you are welcome to edit of 
course).  Also, if a student were interested in working on 
Protocol Buffers, would there be opportunities there too?


There is still some pending work regarding Protocol Buffers:
- native support for the so called "well known" types
- optimization of non-recursive messages
- comments and deprecate field handling
- benchmarking
- json support

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Dragos Carp via Digitalmars-d]

On Saturday, 6 February 2016 at 20:18:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Anyone interested and capable of mentor a student interested in 
doing FlatBuffers for D.


I could do that. Currently, as a side project, I'm working on 
adding D support for Protocol Buffers v3 [1].


Main goals of the new design:
- integration in the upstream project
- simple readable generated code
- range based solution

Of course, the same can be applied for the FlatBuffers.

[1] https://github.com/dcarp/protobuf/tree/dlang_support

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 20:46:59 UTC, Tavi wrote:
On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 16:06:00 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 15:11:39 UTC, Tavi wrote:
On Thursday, 14 January 2016 at 18:56:21 UTC, Craig 
Dillabaugh wrote:
Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are 
welcome. Starting to get some contact from students now.



FlatBuffers for DLang - http://google.github.io/flatbuffers/


Are you volunteering as a potential mentor :o)


I haven't started anything seriously in D yet, so I would not 
be qualified for such mentoring.
Being an efficient cross platform serialization library started 
at Google (already supporting C++, Java, C#, Go, Python and 
JavaScript), may be a good candidate for GSOC.


Anyone interested and capable of mentor a student interested in 
doing FlatBuffers for D.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 at 13:57:06 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 29/01/16 2:53 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

[...]


I have a c phase 1-3 implemented in D.
I would be willing to give up the source if I keep the rights 
(but code can be open just not an open source license).
Could be used to fully translate c code to D without too much 
work I would think.


http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/translation_phases


Rikki, how would this improve upon what we have with Dstep (apart 
from it being fun since it is in D).

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 03:33:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

On 01/14/2016 01:56 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:
Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are welcome. 
Starting

to get some contact from students now.


A few quick ideas:

* Bringing a parser generator library into phobos, either based 
on pegged or independent


* SQL parser, binder, validator

* Improving the GC

clip

Andrei


I wanted to follow up on a few of Andrei's ideas.

Is there any work ongoing on the GC, I know there has been lots 
of talk from time to time, but are there any concrete efforts out 
there that a student could start from?


Also I've seen lots of discussion on improving SQL support, and 
good starting points.


For the parser generator there is currently Pegged, that could be 
integrated into Phobos.  Would that be enough work for a full 
project.


https://github.com/PhilippeSigaud/Pegged

Also, anyone interested in mentoring projects related to these 
topics.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-28 18:19, Dicebot wrote:


AFAIK this is blocked on having C++ API bindings because preprocessor
isn't exposed to plain C ones (this is exactly why I have mentioned it
in list).


I'm not sure what you have in mind but handling something like #if seems 
very complicated. Example:


#if __APPLE__
// some declarations
#elif linux
// some declarations
#endif

The problems I see with the above:

1. It's not possible to enable/disable these preprocessor symbols. For 
example enabling both


2. If the above would be possible the compiler would need to have access 
to the SDK of the other platform. Is this what cross-compilers do?


3. Even if the above two points work the compiler would still need to 
choose one of the two paths. I guess it would need to at least lex the 
other path. But just lexing the other path would not need to be enough. 
It need to parse and to the semantic analysis as well to be useful


Just thinking about this brings up new problems and gives me a headache :)

--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Dicebot via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 at 13:53:30 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Would there be any interest in a project to automate binding 
generation from C files (or perhaps even a full conversion 
tool)?
 This could be done either as a new project, or possibly 
building on dstep - if there is meaningful work that can still 
be done to improve that project.  Alternately, the student 
suggested using  pycparser (https://github.com/eliben/pycparse) 
as the basis for such a tool?


I think it is very important to focus on polishing dstep instead 
of creating more and more imperfect tools. In the end any 
approach which doesn't use existing mature C compiler frontend is 
doomed to make binding mistakes.


Random suggestions for improving dstep:
- implement support for C++ clang API using new shiny dmd 
features (it tends to have more features than C one)
- implement automatic generation of idiomatic D code for raw 
bindings (i.e. stripping redundant namespace prefixes)
- remove/minimize dependencies apart from Phobos/libclang (will 
make much easier including it into standard tools)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Dicebot via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 at 17:15:17 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Seems like there should be enough there for a project. Also 
looking at:


https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep

in the list of limitations is, 'Doesn't translate preprocessor 
macros of any kind", that seems like a good challenge.


AFAIK this is blocked on having C++ API bindings because 
preprocessor isn't exposed to plain C ones (this is exactly why I 
have mentioned it in list).


So if Jacob can't mentor this, is there anyone who would be 
comfortable with that type of project?


I may volunteer but need to check my availability and mentor 
duties :) Will respond shortly. But of course it should be Jacob.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 at 15:20:12 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Thursday, 28 January 2016 at 13:53:30 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Would there be any interest in a project to automate binding 
generation from C files (or perhaps even a full conversion 
tool)?
 This could be done either as a new project, or possibly 
building on dstep - if there is meaningful work that can still 
be done to improve that project.  Alternately, the student 
suggested using  pycparser 
(https://github.com/eliben/pycparse) as the basis for such a 
tool?


I think it is very important to focus on polishing dstep 
instead of creating more and more imperfect tools. In the end 
any approach which doesn't use existing mature C compiler 
frontend is doomed to make binding mistakes.


Random suggestions for improving dstep:
- implement support for C++ clang API using new shiny dmd 
features (it tends to have more features than C one)
- implement automatic generation of idiomatic D code for raw 
bindings (i.e. stripping redundant namespace prefixes)
- remove/minimize dependencies apart from Phobos/libclang (will 
make much easier including it into standard tools)


Seems like there should be enough there for a project. Also 
looking at:


https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep

in the list of limitations is, 'Doesn't translate preprocessor 
macros of any kind", that seems like a good challenge.


So if Jacob can't mentor this, is there anyone who would be 
comfortable with that type of project?

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d]

On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 22:01 +0100, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 2016-01-28 14:53, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:
> 
> 
> > Jacob, are you sure you don't want to Mentor?  It seems like you
> > are
> > involved in all the interesting projects from a student perspective
> > :o)
> 
> I can absolutely help out with all of my projects and projects I'm 
> involved in. But I have no interested in being an official mentor.

Given I have an interest in making DStep better (so as to wrap the
Linux DVB API and libdvbv5) and Jacob is not wanting to be formal
mentor, and yet can support, I can offer myself as mentor so as to try
and ensure the project moves.

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Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-28 14:53, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:



Jacob, are you sure you don't want to Mentor?  It seems like you are
involved in all the interesting projects from a student perspective :o)


I can absolutely help out with all of my projects and projects I'm 
involved in. But I have no interested in being an official mentor.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-28 16:20, Dicebot wrote:


I think it is very important to focus on polishing dstep instead of
creating more and more imperfect tools. In the end any approach which
doesn't use existing mature C compiler frontend is doomed to make
binding mistakes.

Random suggestions for improving dstep:
- implement support for C++ clang API using new shiny dmd features (it
tends to have more features than C one)


I would like to avoid this until there's absolutely no other way to do it.

A couple of other ideas:

* Getting the D code more looking like the C code. For example, the same 
order for the symbols as the C code has. Currently it outputs all 
variables first, then all types and all functions last


* Add support for comments

* Generated libclang bindings. These are now manually created, mostly 
for the above two reasons. Ideally it would be possible to generate 
bindings almost exactly like the manually created ones [1]


[1] https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep/blob/master/clang/c/Index.d

--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Dicebot via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 at 21:07:58 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:
* Generated libclang bindings. These are now manually created, 
mostly for the above two reasons. Ideally it would be possible 
to generate bindings almost exactly like the manually created 
ones [1]


[1] 
https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep/blob/master/clang/c/Index.d


Could be cool project to make dstep compilable with clang 
bindings converted with dstep - and run tests with both.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-28 18:19, Dicebot wrote:


AFAIK this is blocked on having C++ API bindings because preprocessor
isn't exposed to plain C ones (this is exactly why I have mentioned it
in list).


I would first try the translation unit option 
"CXTranslationUnit_DetailedPreprocessingRecord". The documentation says:


"Used to indicate that the parser should construct a "detailed" 
preprocessing record, including all macro definitions and instantiations"


If that doesn't work I would prefer improving the C bindings to add 
functionality for working with the preprocessor. But perhaps no one is 
interested in doing that.


One huge advantage is that C API for libclang is a stable API.

--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d]

On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 18:45 +, CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> […]
> 
> I would like to get confirmation from each of you if you can 
> mentor this year (and if your name is attached to a project, can 
> that still be a go).  If I don't have confirmation I will have to 

I believe I will be able to.

I haven't been able to check the projects and propose new ones, sorry.
Mayhap at the end of next week. Sorry for the delay… things.
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Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 at 22:26:44 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 22:01 +0100, Jacob Carlborg via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:

On 2016-01-28 14:53, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:


> Jacob, are you sure you don't want to Mentor?  It seems like 
> you

> are
> involved in all the interesting projects from a student 
> perspective

> :o)

I can absolutely help out with all of my projects and projects 
I'm involved in. But I have no interested in being an official 
mentor.


Given I have an interest in making DStep better (so as to wrap 
the Linux DVB API and libdvbv5) and Jacob is not wanting to be 
formal mentor, and yet can support, I can offer myself as 
mentor so as to try and ensure the project moves.


Thanks Russel, Jacob, and Dicebot for your suggestions. I will 
add DStep to our list of projects with Russel as Mentor.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas


clip


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_mentors



We have had another student inquiry on the GSOC front.  I am 
going from memory, which is always a bit sketchy, but it seems 
that there is a bit of an increase in student interest this year.


Would there be any interest in a project to automate binding 
generation from C files (or perhaps even a full conversion tool)? 
 This could be done either as a new project, or possibly building 
on dstep - if there is meaningful work that can still be done to 
improve that project.  Alternately, the student suggested using  
pycparser (https://github.com/eliben/pycparse) as the basis for 
such a tool?


Jacob, are you sure you don't want to Mentor?  It seems like you 
are involved in all the interesting projects from a student 
perspective :o)


Is there work that can be done to improve dstep?

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d]

On 29/01/16 2:53 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 19th.
Which means we have about a month and a half to put something
together.  For the time being I've recycled last years projects (with
one dropped so far):

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas


clip


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_mentors



We have had another student inquiry on the GSOC front.  I am going from
memory, which is always a bit sketchy, but it seems that there is a bit
of an increase in student interest this year.

Would there be any interest in a project to automate binding generation
from C files (or perhaps even a full conversion tool)?  This could be
done either as a new project, or possibly building on dstep - if there
is meaningful work that can still be done to improve that project.
Alternately, the student suggested using pycparser
(https://github.com/eliben/pycparse) as the basis for such a tool?

Jacob, are you sure you don't want to Mentor?  It seems like you are
involved in all the interesting projects from a student perspective :o)

Is there work that can be done to improve dstep?


I have a c phase 1-3 implemented in D.
I would be willing to give up the source if I keep the rights (but code 
can be open just not an open source license).
Could be used to fully translate c code to D without too much work I 
would think.


http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/translation_phases

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 16:16:01 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas



Craig


Just trying to keep GSOC on the front page ...

If you have your name attached to a project currently on our 
list please let me know if you can't mentor this year.  I am 
starting to get some inquires for students about projects (just 
had one about DDT), and it would be bad is some project that is 
currently on the list disappeared between now and mid-February.
 So I would rather clean up any projects that we can't go ahead 
with now.


I can't believe I let this slip all the way to page 4 :o)

GSOC organization deadline is 3.5 weeks away, and while there 
have been a few ideas proposed here, we don't have too much that 
is concrete.


I will try and get to work on filling in the idea's page with 
what we have so far, but still need more ideas from the 
community.  Note, if you have an idea you also need to either be 
able to mentor, or even better, volunteer someone else.


For the time being the following people are listed as potential 
mentors for projects already on the idea's page (from last year):


Andrei Alexandrescu
Iain Buclaw
Bruno Medeiros
Jens Mueller
Martin Nowak
Jacob Ovrum
Amaury Sechet
Russel Winder

I would like to get confirmation from each of you if you can 
mentor this year (and if your name is attached to a project, can 
that still be a go).  If I don't have confirmation I will have to 
drop the mentor/project, as it would look really bad if students 
submit proposals and we end up saying "Oh, sorry that individual 
can't really mentor you ... maybe you should try something Rust 
related."


Cheers

Craig

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d]

On 01/26/2016 01:45 PM, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

I would like to get confirmation from each of you if you can mentor this
year (and if your name is attached to a project, can that still be a go).


Affirmative. -- Andrei

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas



Craig


Just trying to keep GSOC on the front page ...

If you have your name attached to a project currently on our list 
please let me know if you can't mentor this year.  I am starting 
to get some inquires for students about projects (just had one 
about DDT), and it would be bad is some project that is currently 
on the list disappeared between now and mid-February.  So I would 
rather clean up any projects that we can't go ahead with now.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-15 23:25, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:


How much work do you think that would involve? Would it be enough to
qualify as a project (I am guessing something in the range of 150-300
hours of total work, including getting up to speed, design,
implementation, testing, would be suitable).


It's hard to say. It depends on how much time it takes to get up to 
speed. If the student already knows D it will be a lot quicker. But for 
me that's already working on this, I really hope it wouldn't take that 
long time.


I think it's a bigger chance that it's too small than too large. But if 
it's possible to be flexible we could add more archive types if the 
project turns out to be too small.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Marc Schütz via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 12:36:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

On 1/15/16 6:58 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 10:02:14 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:
* A flexible serialization framework in Phobos. std.csv could 
be
changed to use it, and vibe.d as well as various 
serialization related
libraries (e.g. Protocol Buffers, capnproto) would also 
benefit from

standardization here.


What about Orange?  What is preventing it from becoming part 
of Phobos?


https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orange


I recall there has been one (or two?) unsuccessful attempts. -- 
Andrei


Right, but it needs someone to take another stab at it. Part of 
the job is to gather all the requirements and look at the 
previous discussions as well as existing solutions.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d]

On 1/15/16 6:58 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 10:02:14 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 03:33:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

A few quick ideas:

* Bringing a parser generator library into phobos, either based on
pegged or independent

* SQL parser, binder, validator

* Anything building on the strengths on D: introspection,
compile-time stuff, DSL, etc.

* Improving the GC

* Theoretical work - core language semantics, proving immutable
provides guarantees etc.


* A flexible serialization framework in Phobos. std.csv could be
changed to use it, and vibe.d as well as various serialization related
libraries (e.g. Protocol Buffers, capnproto) would also benefit from
standardization here.


What about Orange?  What is preventing it from becoming part of Phobos?

https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orange


I recall there has been one (or two?) unsuccessful attempts. -- Andrei

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Marc Schütz via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 03:33:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

A few quick ideas:

* Bringing a parser generator library into phobos, either based 
on pegged or independent


* SQL parser, binder, validator

* Anything building on the strengths on D: introspection, 
compile-time stuff, DSL, etc.


* Improving the GC

* Theoretical work - core language semantics, proving immutable 
provides guarantees etc.


* A flexible serialization framework in Phobos. std.csv could be 
changed to use it, and vibe.d as well as various serialization 
related libraries (e.g. Protocol Buffers, capnproto) would also 
benefit from standardization here.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 10:02:14 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:
On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 03:33:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

A few quick ideas:

* Bringing a parser generator library into phobos, either 
based on pegged or independent


* SQL parser, binder, validator

* Anything building on the strengths on D: introspection, 
compile-time stuff, DSL, etc.


* Improving the GC

* Theoretical work - core language semantics, proving 
immutable provides guarantees etc.


* A flexible serialization framework in Phobos. std.csv could 
be changed to use it, and vibe.d as well as various 
serialization related libraries (e.g. Protocol Buffers, 
capnproto) would also benefit from standardization here.


What about Orange?  What is preventing it from becoming part of 
Phobos?


https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orange

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d]

On 01/15/2016 08:11 AM, Marc Schütz wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 12:36:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

On 1/15/16 6:58 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 10:02:14 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:

* A flexible serialization framework in Phobos. std.csv could be
changed to use it, and vibe.d as well as various serialization related
libraries (e.g. Protocol Buffers, capnproto) would also benefit from
standardization here.


What about Orange?  What is preventing it from becoming part of Phobos?

https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orange


I recall there has been one (or two?) unsuccessful attempts. -- Andrei


Right, but it needs someone to take another stab at it. Part of the job
is to gather all the requirements and look at the previous discussions
as well as existing solutions.


It would be terrific if Jacob wanted to mentor a student to work on a 
Phobos package starting from Orange. -- Andrei

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Tavi via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 14 January 2016 at 18:56:21 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are welcome. 
Starting to get some contact from students now.



FlatBuffers for DLang - http://google.github.io/flatbuffers/

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 13:43:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

On 01/15/2016 08:11 AM, Marc Schütz wrote:
On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 12:36:32 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:

On 1/15/16 6:58 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:
On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 10:02:14 UTC, Marc Schütz 
wrote:

[...]


What about Orange?  What is preventing it from becoming part 
of Phobos?


https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orange


I recall there has been one (or two?) unsuccessful attempts. 
-- Andrei


Right, but it needs someone to take another stab at it. Part 
of the job
is to gather all the requirements and look at the previous 
discussions

as well as existing solutions.


It would be terrific if Jacob wanted to mentor a student to 
work on a Phobos package starting from Orange. -- Andrei


Agreed ... Jacob?

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 15:11:39 UTC, Tavi wrote:
On Thursday, 14 January 2016 at 18:56:21 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are welcome. 
Starting to get some contact from students now.



FlatBuffers for DLang - http://google.github.io/flatbuffers/


Are you volunteering as a potential mentor :o)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-15 13:36, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:


I recall there has been one (or two?) unsuccessful attempts. -- Andrei


Yes, twice. It mainly needs to be rangified.

--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-15 14:56, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:


Agreed ... Jacob?


I could help, but I have no interest in being an official mentor.

--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Tavi via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 16:06:00 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 15:11:39 UTC, Tavi wrote:
On Thursday, 14 January 2016 at 18:56:21 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are 
welcome. Starting to get some contact from students now.



FlatBuffers for DLang - http://google.github.io/flatbuffers/


Are you volunteering as a potential mentor :o)


I haven't started anything seriously in D yet, so I would not be 
qualified for such mentoring.
Being an efficient cross platform serialization library started 
at Google (already supporting C++, Java, C#, Go, Python and 
JavaScript), may be a good candidate for GSOC.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 20:20:29 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2016-01-15 13:36, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

I recall there has been one (or two?) unsuccessful attempts. 
-- Andrei


Yes, twice. It mainly needs to be rangified.


How much work do you think that would involve? Would it be enough 
to qualify as a project (I am guessing something in the range of 
150-300 hours of total work, including getting up to speed, 
design, implementation, testing, would be suitable).

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 20:46:59 UTC, Tavi wrote:
On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 16:06:00 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 15:11:39 UTC, Tavi wrote:
On Thursday, 14 January 2016 at 18:56:21 UTC, Craig 
Dillabaugh wrote:
Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are 
welcome. Starting to get some contact from students now.



FlatBuffers for DLang - http://google.github.io/flatbuffers/


Are you volunteering as a potential mentor :o)


I haven't started anything seriously in D yet, so I would not 
be qualified for such mentoring.
Being an efficient cross platform serialization library started 
at Google (already supporting C++, Java, C#, Go, Python and 
JavaScript), may be a good candidate for GSOC.


Thanks then for the suggestion.  It is my policy to always ask if 
someone wants to mentor!

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 15 January 2016 at 03:33:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

On 01/14/2016 01:56 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:
Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are welcome. 
Starting

to get some contact from students now.


A few quick ideas:

* Bringing a parser generator library into phobos, either based 
on pegged or independent


* SQL parser, binder, validator

* Anything building on the strengths on D: introspection, 
compile-time stuff, DSL, etc.


* Improving the GC

* Theoretical work - core language semantics, proving immutable 
provides guarantees etc.



Andrei


Thanks.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d]

On 01/14/2016 01:56 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are welcome. Starting
to get some contact from students now.


A few quick ideas:

* Bringing a parser generator library into phobos, either based on 
pegged or independent


* SQL parser, binder, validator

* Anything building on the strengths on D: introspection, compile-time 
stuff, DSL, etc.


* Improving the GC

* Theoretical work - core language semantics, proving immutable provides 
guarantees etc.



Andrei

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[tchaloupka via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 14 January 2016 at 18:56:21 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


[...]


Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are welcome. 
Starting to get some contact from students now.


It might be helpfull if they can help with:

* proper fast JSON parser (this is already worked on I think 
here: https://github.com/s-ludwig/std_data_json, but it seems to 
need a help with to finally get it to Phobos as we are constantly 
bit by it on public: https://github.com/kostya/benchmarks)


* same with the XML parser

* one probably crazy idea - WCF[1] interoperability for vibe.d 
(it might be helpfull in commercial field if one can use vibe.d 
as a backend server with WCF capability so .Net clients can call 
it directly with autogenerated protocol). But it will be a lot of 
work to implement all features..


[1] 
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms731082%28v=vs.110%29.aspx

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


[...]


Deadline is getting closer, any new project ideas are welcome. 
Starting to get some contact from students now.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-05 23:28, Laeeth Isharc wrote:


What do you think about the idea of building higher-level bindings for
Apple mobile + Android as a project, now that the compiler itself is at
a useful stage of development?


D has only basic support for interfacing with Objective-C, there's more 
in the works.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 13:28:56 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:

On 2016-01-05 23:28, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

What do you think about the idea of building higher-level 
bindings for
Apple mobile + Android as a project, now that the compiler 
itself is at

a useful stage of development?


D has only basic support for interfacing with Objective-C, 
there's more in the works.


I assume, based on my limited knowledge, that this would likely
be two separate projects then:

- bindings for Android
- bindings for Apple Mobile

Would a GSOC project be helpful in moving the Objective-C work 
forward.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d]

On 2016-01-06 15:49, CraigDillabaugh wrote:


Would a GSOC project be helpful in moving the Objective-C work forward.


I'm not sure if it's a good fit for a GSOC project. The implementation 
is basically done, it just needs to be upstreamed.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d]

On 06/01/16 3:56 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 02:27:05 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

On 06/01/16 11:28 AM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

On Monday, 4 January 2016 at 22:58:43 UTC, CraigDillabaugh

clip


For Android you really need an easy way to interface with JNI.
And that means another library.
There is a library that really isn't complete [0], is my fork.

I made the JNI bindings be derelict style.
If the demand is there I'll move them over to alphaPhobos with my
updated DerelictUtil loader.

jvm.d is a bit cleaner and has comments.
It is also very magical in loading and will make things 'just work'.
I.e. it patches up stdout ext. on Windows.

I also did some serious clean up regarding to the abstractions around
fields, classes and methods.

Craig Dillabaugh if you are interested in working on this with me,
please let me know.

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/djvm


Do you mean me, or Laeeth Isharc?  The only Android/Apple device I have
is a second hand iPhone that I've only ever used to take a few pictures
and listen to the music left on it by the guy who gave it to me.  So I
am likely not a good candidate to get involved in work on such
bindings.  Heck, I don't even know what JNI is!


Okay Laeeth then, I sometimes mix people up :p

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d]

On 06/01/16 11:28 AM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

On Monday, 4 January 2016 at 22:58:43 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 19th.
Which means we have about a month and a half to put something
together.  For the time being I've recycled last years projects (with
one dropped so far):

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas

Since we were rejected with, more or less, the same set of proposals
last year it seems unlikely we would succeed this year with the same
lineup.  So some new ideas (or some refreshing of the existing ideas)
would be helpful.


clip



Happy New Year to everyone.

Craig


Just bumping my own thread here.

Is there any interest is doing a GSOC application this year within the
community? I don't mind doing the admin work, but having even a couple
of solid new ideas for projects would improve the odds of a successful
application.


What do you think about the idea of building higher-level bindings for
Apple mobile + Android as a project, now that the compiler itself is at
a useful stage of development?


For Android you really need an easy way to interface with JNI.
And that means another library.
There is a library that really isn't complete [0], is my fork.

I made the JNI bindings be derelict style.
If the demand is there I'll move them over to alphaPhobos with my 
updated DerelictUtil loader.


jvm.d is a bit cleaner and has comments.
It is also very magical in loading and will make things 'just work'.
I.e. it patches up stdout ext. on Windows.

I also did some serious clean up regarding to the abstractions around 
fields, classes and methods.


Craig Dillabaugh if you are interested in working on this with me, 
please let me know.


[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/djvm

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Wednesday, 6 January 2016 at 02:27:05 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 06/01/16 11:28 AM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

On Monday, 4 January 2016 at 22:58:43 UTC, CraigDillabaugh

clip


For Android you really need an easy way to interface with JNI.
And that means another library.
There is a library that really isn't complete [0], is my fork.

I made the JNI bindings be derelict style.
If the demand is there I'll move them over to alphaPhobos with 
my updated DerelictUtil loader.


jvm.d is a bit cleaner and has comments.
It is also very magical in loading and will make things 'just 
work'.

I.e. it patches up stdout ext. on Windows.

I also did some serious clean up regarding to the abstractions 
around fields, classes and methods.


Craig Dillabaugh if you are interested in working on this with 
me, please let me know.


[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/djvm


Do you mean me, or Laeeth Isharc?  The only Android/Apple device 
I have is a second hand iPhone that I've only ever used to take a 
few pictures and listen to the music left on it by the guy who 
gave it to me.  So I am likely not a good candidate to get 
involved in work on such bindings.  Heck, I don't even know what 
JNI is!

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d]

On Monday, 4 January 2016 at 22:58:43 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas

Since we were rejected with, more or less, the same set of 
proposals last year it seems unlikely we would succeed this 
year with the same lineup.  So some new ideas (or some 
refreshing of the existing ideas) would be helpful.



clip



Happy New Year to everyone.

Craig


Just bumping my own thread here.

Is there any interest is doing a GSOC application this year 
within the community? I don't mind doing the admin work, but 
having even a couple of solid new ideas for projects would 
improve the odds of a successful application.


What do you think about the idea of building higher-level 
bindings for Apple mobile + Android as a project, now that the 
compiler itself is at a useful stage of development?

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Tuesday, 5 January 2016 at 22:28:40 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
On Monday, 4 January 2016 at 22:58:43 UTC, CraigDillabaugh 
wrote:
On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig 
Dillabaugh wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas



What do you think about the idea of building higher-level 
bindings for Apple mobile + Android as a project, now that the 
compiler itself is at a useful stage of development?


I generally don't take a stand one way or the other on the 
projects, but rather let the community chime in, since in many 
cases (like this one) I am not terribly familiar with the problem 
space.


So any opinions on this project idea are welcomed.

Would you be willing to mentor such a project, or put together an 
outline (see the ideas page for some examples) of what the 
project would look like?  If the community likes the project 
idea, but you can't mentor it then perhaps we can find someone 
who would be.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 31 December 2015 at 23:58:32 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:
The deadline for the Google Summer of Code, 2016 is February 
19th. Which means we have about a month and a half to put 
something together.  For the time being I've recycled last 
years projects (with one dropped so far):


http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas#Ideas

Since we were rejected with, more or less, the same set of 
proposals last year it seems unlikely we would succeed this 
year with the same lineup.  So some new ideas (or some 
refreshing of the existing ideas) would be helpful.



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Happy New Year to everyone.

Craig


Just bumping my own thread here.

Is there any interest is doing a GSOC application this year 
within the community? I don't mind doing the admin work, but 
having even a couple of solid new ideas for projects would 
improve the odds of a successful application.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 13:53 +, CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-
announce wrote:
> On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 09:07:36 UTC, Gerald Jansen wrote:
> > On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 03:17:59 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
> > wrote:
> > > The ideas page for the 2016 Google Summer of Code is now up:
> > > 
> > > http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas
> > 
> > Concerning "Phobos: D Standard Library", specifically 
> > std.parallel, how about "a fork()-backend to std.process OR 
> > std.parallel" as mentioned in this post [1].
> > 
> > [1] 
> > http://forum.dlang.org/post/lpktvvgesolvoprjw...@forum.dlang.org
> 
> Would you be interested in mentoring that?
> 
> Also, for anything Phobos related it would be good to have 
> general consensus that the project would eventually make its way 
> into std.experimental at least. The discussion you linked to 
> proposed the idea, but there wasn't much follow on. Perhaps a 
> proposal should be floated on the General thread.

Sadly I am not really sure what that comment was suggesting. Given
there was a claim of 3x speed up there must have been code. If that
code could be put forward then experiments could be run. Possibly
something for GSoC in that alone.

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Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[FreeSlave via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 03:17:59 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

The ideas page for the 2016 Google Summer of Code is now up:

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas

Right now it is remarkably similar to the 2015 page!  The 
Google folks seem rather busy, so maybe no one would notice, 
but if anyone has ideas for new projects that would be 
fantastic.


Also, if anyone feels an existing project needs to be 
withdrawn, please let me know.


Cheers,

Craig


Cool, I did not know there're plans for std.i18n.

By the way, I'm not student anymore, so no GSOC for me.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[Gerald Jansen via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 03:17:59 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

The ideas page for the 2016 Google Summer of Code is now up:

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas


Concerning "Phobos: D Standard Library", specifically 
std.parallel, how about "a fork()-backend to std.process OR 
std.parallel" as mentioned in this post [1].


[1] 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/lpktvvgesolvoprjw...@forum.dlang.org

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[Gerald Jansen via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 13:53:25 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 09:07:36 UTC, Gerald Jansen wrote:


Concerning "Phobos: D Standard Library", specifically 
std.parallel, how about "a fork()-backend to std.process OR 
std.parallel" as mentioned in this post [1].


[1] 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/lpktvvgesolvoprjw...@forum.dlang.org


Would you be interested in mentoring that?

Also, for anything Phobos related it would be good to have 
general consensus that the project would eventually make its 
way into std.experimental at least. The discussion you linked 
to proposed the idea, but there wasn't much follow on. Perhaps 
a proposal should be floated on the General thread.


I am still in D kindergarten and this is way out of my depth. 
Sorry for the noise.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 14:20:54 UTC, Gerald Jansen wrote:
On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 13:53:25 UTC, CraigDillabaugh 
wrote:
On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 09:07:36 UTC, Gerald Jansen 
wrote:

[...]


Would you be interested in mentoring that?

Also, for anything Phobos related it would be good to have 
general consensus that the project would eventually make its 
way into std.experimental at least. The discussion you linked 
to proposed the idea, but there wasn't much follow on. Perhaps 
a proposal should be floated on the General thread.


I am still in D kindergarten and this is way out of my depth. 
Sorry for the noise.


No need to apologize.  Maybe if you can't do it, we can find 
someone who would .. but I always ask as a matter of principle :o)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 08:47:48 UTC, FreeSlave wrote:
On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 03:17:59 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

The ideas page for the 2016 Google Summer of Code is now up:

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas

Right now it is remarkably similar to the 2015 page!  The 
Google folks seem rather busy, so maybe no one would notice, 
but if anyone has ideas for new projects that would be 
fantastic.


Also, if anyone feels an existing project needs to be 
withdrawn, please let me know.


Cheers,

Craig


Cool, I did not know there're plans for std.i18n.

By the way, I'm not student anymore, so no GSOC for me.


But now you can be a mentor :o)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 03:19:58 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 06/11/15 4:17 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

The ideas page for the 2016 Google Summer of Code is now up:

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas

Right now it is remarkably similar to the 2015 page!  The 
Google folks
seem rather busy, so maybe no one would notice, but if anyone 
has ideas

for new projects that would be fantastic.

Also, if anyone feels an existing project needs to be 
withdrawn, please

let me know.

Cheers,

Craig


Please withdraw Cmsed. I've since stopped working on it. In 
favor of writing a web application server. Which should solve 
most of the problems it had.


Will do!

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 09:07:36 UTC, Gerald Jansen wrote:
On Friday, 6 November 2015 at 03:17:59 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

The ideas page for the 2016 Google Summer of Code is now up:

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas


Concerning "Phobos: D Standard Library", specifically 
std.parallel, how about "a fork()-backend to std.process OR 
std.parallel" as mentioned in this post [1].


[1] 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/lpktvvgesolvoprjw...@forum.dlang.org


Would you be interested in mentoring that?

Also, for anything Phobos related it would be good to have 
general consensus that the project would eventually make its way 
into std.experimental at least. The discussion you linked to 
proposed the idea, but there wasn't much follow on. Perhaps a 
proposal should be floated on the General thread.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2016 Ideas Page

[Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 06/11/15 4:17 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

The ideas page for the 2016 Google Summer of Code is now up:

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2016_Ideas

Right now it is remarkably similar to the 2015 page!  The Google folks
seem rather busy, so maybe no one would notice, but if anyone has ideas
for new projects that would be fantastic.

Also, if anyone feels an existing project needs to be withdrawn, please
let me know.

Cheers,

Craig


Please withdraw Cmsed. I've since stopped working on it. In favor of 
writing a web application server. Which should solve most of the 
problems it had.