Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-13 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2018-02-12 23:35, Walter Bright wrote: The last dstep commit was November 2017. Yes? I've been working on a separate branch lately I take it dstep spawns the clang compiler? No, it uses libclang, i.e. using the Clang compiler as a library. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-13 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 04:44:27 UTC, timotheecour wrote: Try to comment that with `/* */`: ``` void drawCircle(int angle /* in degrees */); ``` When you want to disable whole declaration, version(none) works just fine.

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread timotheecour via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 04:16:22 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 02/09/2018 07:11 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 11:16:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 02/09/2018 05:31 AM, Kagamin wrote: version(none)q{ FOO }; is likely to work for most stuff to

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 07:11 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 11:16:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 02/09/2018 05:31 AM, Kagamin wrote: version(none)q{ FOO }; is likely to work for most stuff too. /+ +/ is likely to work for most stuff, too. So do /* */ Seriously, are

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/12/2018 12:23 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Here you go [1]. It's a bit outdated now, from 2013, but it worked back then. The last dstep commit was November 2017. [1] https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dmd/commit/2837d340c065cc2bf3f0a83cb96c4d9f22fb3a30 I take it dstep spawns the clang c

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 22:35:23 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I take it dstep spawns the clang compiler? It embeds the Clang frontend, which is designed to be usable as a library. — David

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/12/2018 8:25 AM, Patrick Schluter wrote: C is currently at [C11]. [C11]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C11_%28C_standard_revision%29 Yes, you're right. I haven't paid any attention to C11 :/ The array bounds checking interface, http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1969.h

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2018-02-12 02:27, Walter Bright wrote: Know what is a heavyweight problem worth our while? Having dmd be able to directly read C .h files, so the poor user does not have to manually translate them. We've already got a huge chunk of that problem solved. The Digital Mars C/C++ front end is now

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread Patrick Schluter via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 03:17:20 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 2/11/2018 6:26 PM, Elie Morisse wrote: Wow, you converted DMC++'s front-end to D? Yes, it's just frustrating for me to work on C++ code anymore. :-) To chime in on that, Calypso i.e the LDC+Clang equivalent of what you de

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-12 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/11/2018 8:59 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Though I do realize that's not likely to happen. It's not as if I'm saying "hey, go do this". All I'm really saying is "I like this idea, I'm in favor of it, and it's worth being open to." Not much more than that. > "That's a reasonable p

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/11/2018 08:27 PM, Walter Bright wrote: On 2/11/2018 5:05 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: That's the same exact reason most languages don't have most of the nice things in D, like separators for numeric literals: Because they're not strictly necessary. But if D had never been willing

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/11/2018 6:26 PM, Elie Morisse wrote: Wow, you converted DMC++'s front-end to D? Yes, it's just frustrating for me to work on C++ code anymore. :-) To chime in on that, Calypso i.e the LDC+Clang equivalent of what you described isn't dead (it just revived a few weeks ago from a long slumb

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/11/2018 5:43 PM, timotheecour wrote: It doesn't leave anything in Ddoc either, so that's not a viable workaround if that comment is intended to be a DDoc. You're right that this will never be intrepreted as a Ddoc comment. But I infer that this resolves the non-Ddoc case? As for Ddoc co

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Elie Morisse via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 01:27:19 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 2/11/2018 5:05 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Know what is a heavyweight problem worth our while? Having dmd be able to directly read C .h files, so the poor user does not have to manually translate them. We've alread

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread timotheecour via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 01:27:19 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Know what is a heavyweight problem worth our while? Having dmd be able to directly read C .h files, so the poor user does not have to manually translate them. read directly C++ header files instead of C .h files is what we shou

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread timotheecour via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 12 February 2018 at 01:39:31 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Easy: mixin template comment(string s) { } mixin comment!q"EOS This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing /+ documented unittests containing nesting comments +/ and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/8/2018 7:06 PM, Timothee Cour wrote: /"EOC This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing /+ documented unittests containing nesting comments +/ and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html EOS"/ Easy: mixin template comment(string s) { } mixin comment!q"E

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/11/2018 5:05 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: That's the same exact reason most languages don't have most of the nice things in D, like separators for numeric literals: Because they're not strictly necessary. But if D had never been willing to improve the state of the art by not being

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/10/2018 06:03 PM, Walter Bright wrote: There isn't any commenting scheme that won't trip you up with certain characters That's exactly the whole point of heredocs ever existing in the first place, its exactly the problem they're created for. in the comments. I don't see a compelling

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 03:06:56 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: same exact idea as motivation for delimited strings (https://dlang.org/spec/lex.html#delimited_strings) ``` auto heredoc = q"EOS This is a multi-line heredoc string EOS" ; /"EOC This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing /+ d

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread ag0aep6g via Digitalmars-d
On 02/11/2018 09:32 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: This syntax is syntactically ambiguous. [...]     assert(StringNumber("4")/"2" == "2"); // Conflict!     // Division by string, or nested comment? Strictly, it's not worse than `/*`, is it? assert(4/*(new int(2)) == 2); //

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 03:06:56 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: /"EOC This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing /+ documented unittests containing nesting comments +/ and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html EOS"/ This syntax is syntactically ambiguous. stru

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-11 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 11 February 2018 at 01:01:21 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: You could also always just declare a DDOC macro. Just put Macros: PLUS=+ in the ddoc comment and then use $(PLUS) instead of +. It's more verbose that way given that PLUS isn't one of the standard ddoc macros, but it's

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/10/2018 7:27 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: And it's already kind of silly that we have as many comment types as we do. Even more comment types implies we don't know what we're doing :-(

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, February 10, 2018 18:53:03 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 2/10/2018 6:28 PM, Timothee Cour wrote: > > all these workarounds are rather ugly; the proposed syntax works all > > the time (user can just pick a EOC token not in comment) and is analog > > to existing D heredoc

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/10/2018 6:28 PM, Timothee Cour wrote: all these workarounds are rather ugly; the proposed syntax works all the time (user can just pick a EOC token not in comment) and is analog to existing D heredoc strings, so nothing surprising there. Would PR's be accepted? You'll need to make a strong

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Timothee Cour via Digitalmars-d
all these workarounds are rather ugly; the proposed syntax works all the time (user can just pick a EOC token not in comment) and is analog to existing D heredoc strings, so nothing surprising there. Would PR's be accepted? On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrot

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, February 10, 2018 15:03:08 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 2/8/2018 7:06 PM, Timothee Cour wrote: > > /"EOC > > This is a multi-line > > heredoc comment allowing > > /+ documented unittests containing nesting comments +/ > > and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedo

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 2/8/2018 7:06 PM, Timothee Cour wrote: /"EOC This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing /+ documented unittests containing nesting comments +/ and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html EOS"/ There isn't any commenting scheme that won't trip you up with certain

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 10 February 2018 at 07:57:12 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 03:06:56 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html Workaround: percent-encoding. https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc%2B%2B/faq.html w

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-10 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 03:06:56 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html Workaround: percent-encoding. https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc%2B%2B/faq.html works too.

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Dominikus Dittes Scherkl via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 11:16:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: /** Be sure to check the various files at extras/foo*/package.d and also: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html */ Unlike the "disabling code that contains the end-of-disabled-code token" stuff, THIS exam

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 11:16:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 02/09/2018 05:31 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:42:46 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Huh? So are you *pro-* or *anti-* heredoc? I personally prefer python's triple quoted strings. Elega

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:48:14 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 02/09/2018 04:09 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:54:09 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: * `/* */` should never be used Not a single reason for that Except of course for the ones that have been pointed

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 05:31 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:42:46 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Huh? So are you *pro-* or *anti-* heredoc? I personally prefer python's triple quoted strings. Elegant, simple and enough for most stuff. That example only shows what D has. ver

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 04:48 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:34:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Comments don't respect even lexical structure of commented code that you expect, version(none) does. Uhh, you do know that IS nesting, right? It's not a comment though, it dis

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:42:46 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Huh? So are you *pro-* or *anti-* heredoc? I personally prefer python's triple quoted strings. Elegant, simple and enough for most stuff. That example only shows what D has. version(none)q{ FOO }; is likely to work f

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, February 09, 2018 08:42:08 Kagamin via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 07:04:26 UTC, Nick Sabalausky > > (Abscissa) wrote: > > (If I were in change of the world, /** and /* both would be > > compiler errors, banned from all commits, and non-nesting block > > comments

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:34:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Don't see how that's remotely as common as "*/" in a C-style-comments codebase or commenting out something at the sub-statement level, like a function argument, type modifier or sub-expression, but hey, I guess if you

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 04:09 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:54:09 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: * `/* */` should never be used Not a single reason for that Except of course for the ones that have been pointed out. And for the reasons you yourself brought up in favor of version(none). N

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 04:23 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:57:49 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: version(none) { FOO } doesn't work if FOO doesn't parse. version(none)q"EOS   FOO EOS"; Huh? So are you *pro-* or *anti-* heredoc? But ok, that works, unless the code contains `EOS"`. Be

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 03:52 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:44:31 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 02/09/2018 03:42 AM, Kagamin wrote: Nested comments are superficial though, Not if you've ever commented out a block of code. Comment this: 'kay: // string sedArg="s/

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:57:49 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: version(none) { FOO } doesn't work if FOO doesn't parse. version(none)q"EOS FOO EOS";

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:54:09 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: * `/* */` should never be used Not a single reason for that * properly nested `/+ +/` indeed don't cause issues Disproved two times in this thread. Anyway nothing properly done causes issues. * unrestricted code (eg foreign co

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Timothee Cour via Digitalmars-d
version(none) { FOO } doesn't work if FOO doesn't parse. Again, what I proposed is the only 100% reliable way to comment out something On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, Kagamin via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:44:31 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) > wrote: >> >> On 02/0

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 08:44:31 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 02/09/2018 03:42 AM, Kagamin wrote: Nested comments are superficial though, Not if you've ever commented out a block of code. Comment this: string sedArg="s/ +/ /"; Comments don't respect even lexical structur

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Timothee Cour via Digitalmars-d
summary: * `/* */` should never be used * properly nested `/+ +/` indeed don't cause issues * urls cause issues and I've ran into this issue multiple times * unrestricted code (eg foreign code or unfinished D code commented out) also cause issues * hreredoc comments fixes these issues when neeeddd

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 03:37 AM, Kagamin wrote: /** This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing // documented unittests containing nesting comments and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html */ /** This is a multi-line comment. Be sure to check the various files at extras/f

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 03:06:56 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: /"EOC This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing /+ documented unittests containing nesting comments +/ Are you sure documented unittests work that way? https://run.dlang.io/is/grNpKK

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 07:04:26 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: (If I were in change of the world, /** and /* both would be compiler errors, banned from all commits, and non-nesting block comments of all types would be prohibited from all langauges upon pain of...well, pain. They

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/09/2018 03:42 AM, Kagamin wrote: Nested comments are superficial though, Not if you've ever commented out a block of code.

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-09 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
/** This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing // documented unittests containing nesting comments and weird urls like https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html */

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-08 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 02/08/2018 10:06 PM, Timothee Cour wrote: /"EOC This is a multi-line heredoc comment allowing /+ documented unittests containing nesting comments +/ That shouldn't be an issue as long as you're using /++ doc comments and not /** ones. If it IS a problem, I'd regard it as a bug. (If I wer

Re: proposal: heredoc comments to allow `+/` in comments, eg from urls or documented unittests

2018-02-08 Thread Timothee Cour via Digitalmars-d
NOTE: the analog of documenting comments (/++ ...+/ and /** */) could be: /""EOC multiline comment EOC"/ (ie allow both `/""` and `/"` before reading in the heredoc token) On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Timothee Cour wrote: > same exact idea as motivation for delimited strings > (https://dlan