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On 19 November 2010 15:11, Phil Hibbs wrote:
> Ian Lynch:
> > And of course there is the
> > argument that without certain features some of the large public sector
> > switches might not have happened.
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> Back in my teens, my dad and I wrote a Basic interpreter for
On 18 November 2010 23:05, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> On 18/11/2010 19:39, Ian Lynch wrote:
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>> On 18 November 2010 14:27, Florian Reisinger wrote:
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>>> Has anyone "in authority" asked the PortableApps folk if they'd do a
>>>> p
hat it is too late :-(. Even a light weight WP based on Writer from a
workflow point of view and supporting odf would be better than nothing. 90%
of people simply don't need all the functions for the things they do most
often and this likely what they would do on phone technology.
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On 17 November 2010 22:53, Benjamin Horst wrote:
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> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> > On 17 November 2010 16:17, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> >> On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> >>> Think this has lost the plot :-) The argument wa
On 17 November 2010 16:17, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> > Think this has lost the plot :-) The argument was not necessarily to
> replace
> > Draw with Inkscape but to learn from it.
>
> Excellent--this is what I was hoping we we
replicating things that improve Draw
and that includes ease of use..
> Mayko Meier
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> 2010/11/16 Ian Lynch
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> > On 16 November 2010 14:35, Luc Novalès wrote:
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> > > Hi,
> > > I am OOo, and now LO user.
>
On 16 November 2010 20:12, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:22 AM, RGB ES wrote:
> > 2010/11/15 Ian Lynch :
> >> The point is that for me Inkscape is more usable and if there was an
> option
> >> to replace Draw with it in LO/OOo I'd take that op
On 16 November 2010 14:35, Luc Novalès wrote:
> Hi,
> I am OOo, and now LO user.
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> Le 15/11/2010 14:22, RGB ES a écrit :
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>> 2010/11/15 Ian Lynch:
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>>> The point is that for me Inkscape is more usable and if there was an
>>> option
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time supporter of OOo like me is saying this many others would too, so
rather than trying to justify Draw's shortcomings we need to work out how to
prioritise improvements to Draw and learn from applications that do it
better.
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> Am Sonntag, den 14.11.2010, 11:50 + schrieb Ian Lynch:
> > Good idea, you should never have to close a dialogue box in any
> > multi-tasking environment in or
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ianluca Turconi
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ain and I gave up on it about 5 or 6 years ago.
If we want community volunteers make it as easy as possible to
participate, if we want a lot of users of the software make it easy for
them to take it up - eg get it on as many future devices as the default
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> On 11/04/2010 10:32 PM, Ian wrote:
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> > Ask how many 15 year olds have drafted an essay on their cell phone.
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> The primary demographic that writes 携帯小説 (keitai
developers so they tend to get first focus. Business
strategy is what will make or break LO in the longer term.
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mer market is much bigger than the industrial professional
market and extends into massive volume in developing countries that have
still to take up any significant technology.
Read up Prof. Clay Christensen's work on disruptive innovation to see
why new technologies displace established ones
r, at least, that any decision different from the opinion expressed,
> for example, by Michael Meeks, may cause more problems than anything
> else during the foundation start-up phase, independently of the fair
> evaluation of the alternatives.
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On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 11:25 +0100, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Ian, *
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> Ian Lynch wrote:
> > [...]
> > Establish a simple Forum called proposals.
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> I'd prefer a sortable list at the wiki / website with columns for name, date
> and
> proposal (up
e was that most of it wouldn't
happen because Sun decided the agenda. With LO hopefully there will be
more scope for a wider pool of ideas.
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nd makes windoze users pay for
> versions supplied for their platforms.
:-) Why not give a business proposal as to why getting LO onto Android
would make good business sense for their search and advertising model,
then they might fund it, it would be a relatively small project for
them.
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Really? Because I can't recall the last time I drafted a legal brief on
> my cell phone.
The legal profession is hardly a good precedent for technology
innovation :-)
Ask how many 15 year olds have drafted an essay on their cell phone.
That would be a much more realistic test of the
ecline and already dominated by MS
with almost unlimited resources to protect that dominance (which they
will more violently as their backs get pushed against the wall). I know
which battle I'd rather try to win. How does Google approach this?
Think :-).
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10 years trying. A real killer on 'phone technology as it develops has a
much better chance but probably that opportunity is already lost simply
because others are beating us there. K-Office on Nokia for a start.
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ld need one
> quickly. Is there developer bandwidth for such a project? I think this would
> be a good Google Summer of Code project that could get some funding and a
> new developer that way, but I'm not sure the work could be handled by a
> single developer over a summer.
It&#x
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 09:19 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 12:50 +0000, Ian wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 07:09 -0400, Michael Meeks wrote:
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> > > > At least then it would run on any platform with a JVM eg cell phone
> > >
> >
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 09:09 -0400, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Ian,
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> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 12:50 +, Ian wrote:
> > Ok, perhaps a daft suggestion but the principle is that all cell phones
> > will have a vast amount of RAM and fast CPUs in the next 2 to 3 years. A
> &g
and then this
laptop. 5 years maybe? How long will it take to make the changes in the
code base to ensure OOo continues to grow in the market?
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ell phone
technology as it moves up into the netbook and laptop spaces.
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all the malware away from my company :-). I just checked an e-mail
attachment supposedly sent from DHL. .exe file so some Windows malware
or other. Do we really want that stuff targeting Linux any sooner than
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> Would someone please explain where the money is coming from to fund
> LibO? Where is it expected to come from in the future, assuming Oracle
> will not join?
There are a few possibilities. One is the certification project that we
are currently working on. (Actually I have been working on it now
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:26:03 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:16 +0200, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote:
>> > but we need some special care for the research
>> > world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years.
>
>> Interesting, so would that mean more emphasis on Calc
almost complete re-write :-(
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> pretty, but useless.
> Just my 2 ¢
I agree with this in principle. Really the long term aim should be to
get LibO to run in a cell phone on cell phone technology. If we don't we
could be chasing a subset of a smaller and diminishing market.
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for different audiences...
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mputer space this becomes more
important to help with power consumption, cost etc.
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> >> Hi Ian:
> >>
> >> Have you tested this on students/kids? I would be interested to hear of
> >> the results if you had done this.
> >
> > Informally the feedback I get is that it's easy enough to teach young
> > children how to mak
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:35 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-22 11:44, Ian a écrit :
> > On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 13:05 +0200, Krabina Bernhard wrote:
> >>> So should't LibreOffice drop
> >>> the
> >>> Draw module and work instead toward a full
ent holding back technology. That is why we should be
pushing for svg and teaching people to use the right tools for graphic
illustration.
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at supports svg and add facilities
to that to meet differing needs.
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never got properly to grips with
and it is important. The user interface and overall design of Inkscape
is IMHO better than Draw but since it is more recent in origin that is
not really surprising. It would also mean that we would be tapping into
the Inkscape community as well as supporting it which
> Hi Marco,
>
> M. Fioretti wrote (20-10-10 05:46)
>> [...]
>> The real question was "why didn't the TDF founders who have/had
>> official roles in OOo publicly resign from those roles on Sept 28th,
>> one second BEFORE announcing the birth of TDF? Would'nt it have been
>> much more proper, conside
> true is that the user needs are the best inspiration for the innovation.
So t reach the masses we need a user interface for mobile devices and web
access but that has coding implications beyond just the UI.
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> On 10/16/2010 04:58 PM, Ian wrote:
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>>> Which of the 200+ variants of Android should be targeted?
>
>> All those running on devices that are likely to be used in general
>> productivity.
>
> That would be all 200+ variants of Android then.
Yes. As I said im
> we
> don't acknowledge that our community is leaving (and yes, there are and
> will always be exceptions). That, to me, is a failure, it's a community
> "management" failure.
So I guess that puts Louis in a difficult position?
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roposing alternative methods of raising development
funds, then the community through the Foundation is not dependent on any
big corporations and we can enable community members to set up their own
sustainable businesses based on LibreO and services based on it.
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> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Ian wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 17:26 +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
> >> Greetings, friends.
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> >> Have a look at:
> >> http://www.youtube.co
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 16:46 +, jonathon wrote:
> On 10/16/2010 04:37 PM, Ian wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 17:26 +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
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> > What we need is a port of OOo to Android.
>
> Which of the 200+ variants of Android should be targeted?
All
?
What we need is a port of OOo to Android. That would really start to get
the paranoia going. Since Intel is porting Android to x86 it is obvious
that Android will move up into the laptop and desktop space. If we don't
get OOo/LO onto Android we could be relegated to a tiny minority use
-time engineers to
work on the project and provide expenses and retainers for key
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