Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-30 Thread Jim Leftwich
David Malouf writes: Q: Like Jonas I have another question regarding education. When you speak of "junior designers" have these designers been through at least a formal bachelor design education like yourself? Are there things that designers should look for in that formal education, such as strong

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-30 Thread Angel Marquez
Silence is golden. Leave it without a name. I've had plenty of people in other languages not know how to convey their feeling in English (My one and only tongue). They always get that look in their eyes and say what I want to tell you I don't know the English equivalent for the word or phrase or th

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-30 Thread Leonardo Parra Agudelo
I was thinking that maybe "sound design" might not be the right way to call it, since it can be directly associated with film, if I'm not mistaken, it was Ben Burtt and Walter Murch who came up with the "sound design" term. And they work within the film industry. I know looking for terms c

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-30 Thread Angel Marquez
yea, it's been like that since 2003. i think bazo got married. it's funny you say that though. when people send me some link to a polished design it really turns me off. i would never buy anything from a site that had beveled buttons. A developer just sent me a link for that browser...something -a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-30 Thread Leonardo Parra Agudelo
A rather frugal website. On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Angel Marquez wrote: http://www.bazooie.com/ Leonardo Parra Agudelo lpa...@uniandes.edu.co Full Time Faculty Design Department Architecture and Design School Universidad de Los Andes, Bogotá-Colombia [57-1]-3394949 xt 3268 _

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-30 Thread Leonardo Parra Agudelo
I'm game, count me in! : ) (a) sound is under-represented within interaction design, (b) there are more questions than answers in terms of how it can be encouraged, and (c) this makes it a very exciting field to work in. Join me in my journey... Leonardo Parra Agudelo Full Time Faculty

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread graeme coleman
It's nice to hear someone else who is interested in this area - having spent several years of my life doing a PhD thesis on sound, I have a lot to say on the subject, so I'll keep it brief! Personally, I don't believe sound design, as a discipline, gets the recognition it deserves. From my experie

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Angel Marquez
doppler effect? On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Jeremy Yuille wrote: > interesting thread.. > > one of the things that I find most different with sound as an > interactive element is the way it is experienced in relation to > itself.. its waaay relative > let me explain: because sound is a time

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Jeremy Yuille
interesting thread.. one of the things that I find most different with sound as an interactive element is the way it is experienced in relation to itself.. its waaay relative let me explain: because sound is a time based medium and must be listened to over time to be comprehended, it's hard to tal

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Angel Marquez
Ask this guy: http://www.bazooie.com/ We used to test video games together. We worked on the first sony online music game 'frequency' I distinctly remember laughing walking down the camera lined observation hallways both in guitar pose saying pretty soon we are going to battle each other playing g

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Angel Marquez
>>could you point at some references? Not off hand. I would have to do some digging. I'm not remembering the term;but, their is one for the sound that accompanies a character and cues the audience of that characters presence. Think of the movie JAWS or Friday the 13th. The sound sets the stage for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Leonardo Parra Agudelo
Not quite familiar with theatre myself, could you point at some references? - Leonardo. On Jan 26, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Angel Marquez wrote: Theatre has been doing it for centuries. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Leonardo Parra Agudelo wrote: Hi All, I just started working with sound a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Anya Kogan
Here is the complete list of publications from my lab. http://sonify.psych.gatech.edu/publications/index.html I recommend this tech report, in particular, to get started: Yalla, P., & Walker, B. N. (2007). Advanced Auditory Menus. Georgia Institute of Technology GVU Center Technical Report # GIT

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Noel Franus
What you're asking for doesn't exist -- while there are some basic principles for 'sound design' in interactive devices, there are no Grand Principles for a broad-based experience design/utility design/service design in sound...you're ahead of the curve. That doesn't mean people aren't doing it. W

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Angel Marquez
Hey Leonardo,Do read it, it is very good. It is only one page; but, everything on that one page is right on. I could ramble on for days about how I would use sound in exactly the manner you described. I will give you this. It should be a subtle embellishment that complements the design. I wish I

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Angel Marquez
So, if I said music theory tells me that major chords induce a happy state and minor chords the opposite. Are you saying that is not a must know in progressive menu system? I agree with you though. Someone does not have to know it has been labeled and studied with these traits to convey their emoti

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Catriona Macaulay
You might want to contact Graeme Coleman ( http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/acstaff/gcoleman/ )at the University of Dundee in the UK who recently successfully defended a PhD thesis on exactly this topic - tools to help designers understand soundscapes in order to inform the sound elements of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Leonardo Parra Agudelo
Well, I'm not thinking of the interface, what I'm trying to do is to find a way to look at sound from a design perspective, as a non- musician and non-sound expert, I find extremely complicated to look at sound, and think of it as a useful medium in design, even though in some cases sound

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Rob Tannen
Here's a list of postings related to sound in product design - scroll to the bottom for basic information on acoustics and sound - http://tinyurl.com/c2r65g . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=37669

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-27 Thread Anya Kogan
I am currently exploring the use of sound in auditory menus through my research at Georgia Tech. A colleague recently compiled a tech report on this topic, full of recent trends (mostly academic) and publication references. If anyone on this list is interested in obtaining a copy, please contact

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-27 Thread Tim Stutts
Yes, I recommend the Chion text too! I referred to it often in a course on sound editing I taught at California Design College a couple years ago. The terms are helpful, because they are conceptual, and entirely unique to sound, whereas some theorists will try to adapt language from other discipl

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-27 Thread Andy Polaine
The issue of Interactions that Dan mentioned is here (with some comments by people too): http://interactions.acm.org/content/?p=1214 Paul Robare's site is here - http://www.paulrobare.com/index.html - might be worth getting in touch with him. It's an interesting and oft overlooked area of i

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-27 Thread neil noakes
i'd recommend reading this book by Michel Chion. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Vision-Sound-Screen-M-Chion/dp/0231078994 although it is conceived as a response to the use of sound in film there is strong cross over to interactive media. the critical discussion touches on innate human factors and p

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-26 Thread Angel Marquez
http://www.designingforinteraction.com/toc.html Page 51. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Dan Saffer wrote: > Good article by Paul Robare and Jodi Forlizzi in the recent issue of > Interactions magazine: "Sound in Computing: A Short History" if you can > track it down. > > Dan > > > > __

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-26 Thread Dan Saffer
Good article by Paul Robare and Jodi Forlizzi in the recent issue of Interactions magazine: "Sound in Computing: A Short History" if you can track it down. Dan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-26 Thread Angel Marquez
Theatre has been doing it for centuries. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Leonardo Parra Agudelo < lpa...@uniandes.edu.co> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > I just started working with sound as a source of information, among other > things, and my starting point was Gestalt, and basic design principles to

[IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-26 Thread Leonardo Parra Agudelo
Hi All, I just started working with sound as a source of information, among other things, and my starting point was Gestalt, and basic design principles to study sound pieces, from sound artists to raw pop, it seems to me there's a need to put together some sort of document which talks