Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow

2008-09-25 Thread Yohan Creemers
Most often I use the UML State Transition Diagram for complex (non-linear) interaction. By selecting a tool, clicking on an object or dragging a bounding box, the user brings the application in a certain state. Each state has it's own options for interaction. Here an example of a diagram for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Szuc
Having moved our company email to Google Apps, I am excited at the prospect of having a phone that can connect seamlessly to my contacts, email, chat and calendar. The stuff around the platform should improve with different handset manufacturers jumping on board and integrating it with different

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why Understanding Business Models is Important to Ix Designers

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Szuc
If you have piss off your customers, you have no business. The magic is when you can achieve a delightful UX and make money for the business. Customers also have to understand the value a product or service brings to their life and how its different to what they are using now. If you cant do

[IxDA Discuss] [EVENT] SHiFT Conference in Lisbon - 15 to 17 Oct

2008-09-25 Thread Bruno Figueiredo
I'm currently one of the head leaders for a tech conference taking place in Lisbon, Portugal that I think will be of interest to most of you here on the IxDA discussion list, so I took the liberty to post some details about it: Lisbon (Portugal) is welcoming this October 15 to 17 the second

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why Understanding Business Models is Important to Ix Designers

2008-09-25 Thread Kontra
If you have piss off your customers, you have no business. Value - Tick Usable - Tick Delightful - Tick Better than my alternatives - Tick Stable - Tick Secure - Tick Friends rave about it - Tick Microsoft called, they want the '90s back. -- Kontra http://counternotions.com

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Peter Knocke
What part of Google's current product offerings would lead you to believe there's systemic consistency, cross-product cohesion and anything but an amateurish aesthetic quality to it, especially with regard to a comparison to Apple? Yes there is basically no cross-product cohesion in the google

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Tamlyn Rhodes
In my experience it is only graphic designers who think that Google products are poorly designed. Everyone else just marvels at how easy they are to use and gets on with it. I'd argue that Google products are, in the main, exceptionally well designed from an interaction point of view. Take the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Will Callaghan
I find some Google Apps more intuitive than others. GMail isn't pretty but it's generally sound, aspects of Analytics and Street View I find appealing too. Perhaps what Google needs is an overarching god on the throne like Jobs is reputed to be at Apple. You're sure to have read this Wired

[IxDA Discuss] JOB: Senior Web Designer - Scotts Valley, CA - CreateSpace, part of the amazon.com group of companies - Full Time

2008-09-25 Thread McGaha, Susan
Susan McGaha | Human Resources | Recruiter BookSurge CreateSpace, part of the amazon.com group of companies P 843.789.5248 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] www.booksurge.com | www.createspace.com work hard. have fun. make history. WebDesigner_CreateSpace_Updated.doc Description:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread David Malouf
Seth, the phone came out in Stores on Tues here in the US. Please see your favorite tech blog for an unwrapping: Engadget, Gizmodo, other -- dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:36 AM, seth b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think

[IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread David Malouf
Andrei said. We won't truly agree on much of the larger picture until you change your stance that interaction designers need not understand fully the fundamentals of graphic design as part of the job description. That means the fundamentals of good typography, color theory and application,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow

2008-09-25 Thread Benjamin Ho
Non-linear and recursive? Sounds like a circle of pages/boxes with a central hub/access point. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33428

[IxDA Discuss] favorite web site designs for mobile touch screens?

2008-09-25 Thread Barbara Ballard
When you look to design inspiration for designing sites for iPhones and other mobile high-end browsers, which sites do you look to? Which designs are especially good? Do you have any pet peeves? Barbara Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-785-838-3003

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow

2008-09-25 Thread Will Evans
Yes On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Benjamin Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-linear and recursive? Sounds like a circle of pages/boxes with a central hub/access point. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:58 AM, Tamlyn Rhodes wrote: In my experience it is only graphic designers who think that Google products are poorly designed. Everyone else just marvels at how easy they are to use and gets on with it. I'd argue that Google products are, in the main, exceptionally well

Re: [IxDA Discuss] favorite web site designs for mobile touch screens?

2008-09-25 Thread Jarod Tang
Hi Barbara, http://www.welie.com/patterns/, http://designinginterfaces.com/, you may interested in. Cheers, -- Jarod On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Barbara Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you look to design inspiration for designing sites for iPhones and other mobile high-end

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Jarod Tang
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:58 AM, Tamlyn Rhodes wrote: In my experience it is only graphic designers who think that Google products are poorly designed. Everyone else just marvels at how easy they are to use and gets on

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 25, 2008, at 5:28 AM, David Malouf wrote: To create compelling interfaces everything you said is TRUE. All those skills are required. Where we disagree is that all of them need to be in a single human being and that their conglomeration is equal to the discipline of interaction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Jarod Tang wrote: Besides these, Picasa is quit good designed Picasa was designed by an ex-Metacreations team and then bought by Google. Picasa, GMail, Google Reader ... , all get high rank from their user. Ok... three out of fifty. One of which was

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread mark schraad
I think there is some self fulfilling prophesy in this. Most interaction designers that I know and work with that have more than 6 or 7 years of experience, are former graphic designers that were looking for something more engaging and more challenging than yet another corporate brochure. I know

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread mark schraad
That's odd. Over the last 10 years we have seen exactly the opposite. In spite of better software, making the capabilities more available, deep expertise is valued more in the marketplace than more general skillsets... at least at the tactical level. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Andrei

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Scott McDaniel
Graphic design is not the sole means of good communication. Scott On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk Why? It's simple really... beyond the obvious fact that the design of most technology requires a screen or display system of some sort... Graphic design at its heart is

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread Jarod Tang
I beg your differ here. Frankly speaking, most of the Google products is from outside except their search engine. Some bought product but be redesigned by google, Youtube ( redesigned, and it's not a bad redesign ), Picasa (redesigned, make it as a integrated part of Google services. It's really

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:27 AM, mark schraad wrote: That's odd. Over the last 10 years we have seen exactly the opposite. We have. And its been a travesty. The reason we have seen this is that a lot of people in charge of design teams in Silicon Valley bought the concept that interaction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread David Malouf
You're right. we are never going to agree to this, b/c I live in your version of bizaro world. I just don't see any evidence to what you are talking about at all. My universe is leaning towards greater segmentation in both practice and education b/c of the failures of people over generalizing and

[IxDA Discuss] on Critique (was G1 Android - case study in inconsistency)

2008-09-25 Thread David Malouf
So the discussion on the G1 has now turned into one of critiquing Google design as a whole. Anyone from Google here want to step up? I think one of the big issues is one that Jared Spool's latest Webinar is trying to address in the UX community. Where is critique in UX, In IxD? I think to have a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] on Critique (was G1 Android - case study in inconsistency)

2008-09-25 Thread Michael Micheletti
Perhaps Jared's recent article on What goes into a Well-Done Critique has already been mentioned on this list, but if not, here's the link: http://www.uie.com/articles/critique/ I thought this an excellent short article with good recommendations and positive examples of how experienced reviewers

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:25 AM, David Malouf wrote: You're right. we are never going to agree to this, b/c I live in your version of bizaro world. I just don't see any evidence to what you are talking about at all. My universe is leaning towards greater segmentation in both practice and education

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread David Malouf
I'm not saying that YOU think it is a failure. I'm saying I THINK generalizing is a failure thus far. But what I'm starting to see is that you aren't describing the way things ARE, but rather the way you want them to be in some ideal future. Is that right? I don't agree with it, but it clarifies

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Kurt Krumme
This is an issue that I've struggled with for years now, and obviously many of you have as well. I think the sheer number of job titles and their overlap is testament to this confusion: IxD, IA, HCI, Interface Designer, Usability Engineer, Web Designer, etc. I'll preface by saying that I tend

Re: [IxDA Discuss] favorite web site designs for mobile touch screens?

2008-09-25 Thread Ricardo Grzeca
Hi Barbara, I've been developing iPhone interfaces for webapps and applications for the last couple of months. A good place to start would be http://www.apple.com/iphone/appstore/ Apple's Developers website also have some docs about iPhone interface and UX. Other points to consider: -

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread seth b
Seth, the phone came out in Stores on Tues here in the US. Please see your favorite tech blog for an unwrapping: Engadget, Gizmodo, other Wrong. It comes out October 22nd. They just previewed it Tuesday. seth - subimage llc - http://sublog.subimage.com -

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread David Malouf
there is still a lot to be learned/gained from the blog reports that already have access to it. -- dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM, seth b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seth, the phone came out in Stores on Tues here in the US. Please see your favorite tech blog for an unwrapping: Engadget,

[IxDA Discuss] Touchscreen interfaces - hype?

2008-09-25 Thread Nick Gassman
In another thread, Seth B said Physically, I find the iPhone lacking because of the lack of a keyboard. I find using a touchscreen for typing lacking. Personal view - touchscreen devices are currently on the hype bit of the Gartner curve, and as people realise that even though the devices

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Touchscreen interfaces - hype?

2008-09-25 Thread Ricardo Grzeca
On the other hand, devices like BlackBerry offer a really worst alternative. The trackball to navigate links and specially the QWERTY keyboard on a 5 columns of buttons/keys cellphone are so hard to use that using an onscreen keyboard turns to be a very good experience :) Add to that the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Touchscreen interfaces - hype?

2008-09-25 Thread Kontra
The iPod Touch and the iPhone are cool and sexy, but are rubbish if you want to play the next track when the player is in your pocket. Which is why the Apple headsets have Send/End, Volume, Prev/Next functionality built-in. -- Kontra http://counternotions.com

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread diana aspillera
Having taken a path similar to others here, starting out as a graphic/web designer and evolving with the web towards doing more interaction design, I find that there are challenges for both strategies, being a generalist or specialist. I personally crave to be a specialist, but having other

[IxDA Discuss] Car IxD in the media - anyone know where it's being done?

2008-09-25 Thread Leon Barnard
The other day I saw a Ford Focus commercial featuring a User Interface Designer talking about the UI he designed for the dashboard console. First of all, I was excited to see IxD getting top billing in a car commercial. Secondly, I've been interested in Interaction Design for cars for a long time

[IxDA Discuss] changing images and color schemes on refresh

2008-09-25 Thread Scott Cobban
I'm designing a top-level product landing page for an e-commerce site. The design consists of a main banner image with marketing messaging spanning the full width of the page, with 4 content boxes aligned horizontally under the main banner image with equal spacing in between each so that they

[IxDA Discuss] Medieval help desk (youtube video)

2008-09-25 Thread Santiago Bustelo
A medieval user getting help with this new technology, the book. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHX-SjgQvQ -- Santiago Bustelo // icograma Buenos Aires, Argentina Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Medieval help desk (youtube video)

2008-09-25 Thread Fredrik Matheson
Ah, they've added subtitles, that's great! The video demonstrates why no *new* interface can be intuited. The user always has to make *some* effort to get up and running. Thanks for sharing! - Fredrik Welcome to the Interaction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Car IxD in the media - anyone know where it's being done?

2008-09-25 Thread Lisa deBettencourt
Hi Leon, I've worked in this space and would be happy to chat with you off list. :) ~Lisa On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Leon Barnard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other day I saw a Ford Focus commercial featuring a User Interface Designer talking about the UI he designed for the dashboard

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Car IxD in the media - anyone know where it's being done?

2008-09-25 Thread Jeff Howard
Hi Leon, Here's a discussion thread from a few months ago on the Ford commercial. I think there were a couple links to the video: http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=28813search=ford // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Kurt Krumme wrote: Andrei, I apologize if I misunderstand you, and please correct me if I do, but I get the feeling that you're advocating an understanding of design fundamentals to anyone seeking to do design work of any kind. This is something I agree with

Re: [IxDA Discuss] 8 Ways to Save Design Conferences

2008-09-25 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Gloria Petron wrote: by Alissa Walker* * *Show's over, kids! Design conferences have become exercises in regenerated, wasteful spectacle. A self-described conference junkie shows us how to bring back the magic.*

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:27 PM, mark schraad wrote: That's odd. Over the last 10 years we have seen exactly the opposite. In spite of better software, making the capabilities more available, deep expertise is valued more in the marketplace than more general skillsets... at least at the tactical

Re: [IxDA Discuss] 8 Ways to Save Design Conferences

2008-09-25 Thread mark schraad
show off On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Jared Spool wrote: Boy, what I would give to get my annual schedule *down* to only 21 conferences. Jared Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 25, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jared Spool wrote: I wrote about this years ago in a piece called Specialists vs. Generalists So what would have to say about generalists who have expertise in more than one area? Would you call that another form of specialization? -- Andrei Herasimchuk

Re: [IxDA Discuss] practice vs. discipline roles vs. people

2008-09-25 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: On Sep 25, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jared Spool wrote: I wrote about this years ago in a piece called Specialists vs. Generalists So what would have to say about generalists who have expertise in more than one area? Would you call that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] 8 Ways to Save Design Conferences

2008-09-25 Thread Catriona Lohan-Conway
question is do you use the same presentation 21 times ;-) __ CatrĂ­ona Lohan-Conway User Experience Architect 917 405 5127 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PPlease consider our environment before printing. Welcome to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] 8 Ways to Save Design Conferences

2008-09-25 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Catriona Lohan-Conway wrote: question is do you use the same presentation 21 times ;-) Oh, I wish. That would make it so much easier. No, I tend to create 10 or so new ones every year. I travel with 25 GB of presentation files. Sigh. Fortunately, I tend to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] 8 Ways to Save Design Conferences

2008-09-25 Thread Jared Spool
Hah! It's a chinese curse scenario (be careful what you ask for because you might get it) On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:56 PM, mark schraad wrote: show off On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Jared Spool wrote: Boy, what I would give to get my annual schedule *down* to only 21 conferences.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] 8 Ways to Save Design Conferences

2008-09-25 Thread Lisa deBettencourt
I'll vouch for ya, Jared. He gave an original at our Boston IxDA NanoConference. I can say that because we watched him compose it in the back of the room while the others gave their talks! :) ~Lisa On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 2008, at

[IxDA Discuss] JOB: fulltime: Los Angeles: Jr/Midlevel IA, Doing Good digital design agency: UX-recruiter

2008-09-25 Thread Joanne Weaver
Hi IxDAers, got a fresh bass o' a job that just came down the pike at one of my favorite clients---please pass along to your favorite entry/mid-level IA $500 referral bonus offered JR/MIDLEVEL INFORMATION ARCHITECT, Doing Good entrepreneurial digital design firm, LA The Company:

[IxDA Discuss] IxDA September's Face-to-Face Meeting: THANKS FOR COMING

2008-09-25 Thread Itamar Medeiros
Hello, there! I'd like to thank you all for coming to another Shanghai IxDA Face-to-Face meeting! I would like to also thank our host Xubo Jiang for letting us have a sneak peek on the technology that ISAR is developing in the area of Usability Testing: if you missed the demo, or you want to know

Re: [IxDA Discuss] G1 Android - case study in inconsistency

2008-09-25 Thread greg
One often overlooked element of Google's success is performance. Performance for cloud based systems is crucial. You can have the best design in the world and it will get trumped every time by performance. Latency is at this moment the most important issue in the experience of cloud based systems