Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Geotools fork and current relicensing discussion [was Re: The importance of a project's license]
ork and not the > other. Since there are financial and strategic issues involved in allowing > Geotoolkit to join Apache and form another community, the history of > OSGeo's relation to geotoolkit should make the board extra cautious to base > their decision on a well founded reasoning rather than on the personal > preferences of individuals. > > Third, the decision strikes me as between honoring the intent of > contributors to Geotools 2.6 and honoring the desire of the Geotoolkit > contributors to take forwards their code base and build a community after > having been rejected by OSGeo. Personally, it feels wrong to have all of > Geotools 2.6 relicensed from a *GPL style license to an APL or similarly > permissive license. My personal motivations are very different in those two > different environments. However, it also feels wrong to impose my strong > personal preference in a way that blocks the progress of others since I > want free software exactly so that others have the freedom to leverage my > work. This is especially true given that the core code base of the two > projects was overwhelmingly Martin's work, and that the new code base has > diverged enormously from the time of the fork. > > > Given these two 'wrong feelings' how do we find the best resolution? I am > surprising myself in deciding that my strong inclination towards > considering as inviolate the terms of a license are trumped by > circumstance. Given the exclusion of Geotoolkit from OSGeo, the importance > of the Apache foundation to free software in general, the overwhelming > contribution of Martin to the original Geotools code base, the extent to > which the geotoolkit code has been refactored since them, it would strike > me as most judicious for OSGeo to figure out a way for Geotoolkit to be > able to join the Apache project. > > > ~adrian custer > > > > P.S. Like others, I find license discussions exceedingly burdensome, a > necessary evil. Today, I have lost a few hours on this email. Therefore, I > might simply ignore subsequent discussion, even if messages contain direct > questions made to me. It is not that interesting. > > > [1] I was a minor contributor to Geotools, mostly on the analysis and > documentation side and was then part of the Geotoolkit fork. Please do note > however, that I have since moved on and am not working with any of those > projects or talking to any of those folk these days, so this analysis, > critique, and comments are my own only. > > > [2] I personally find the failure to make Martin a charter member as one > glaring indictment of OSGeo and its community, revealing the inwards > looking favoritism and lack of exploration beyond. There are few people as > passionate, knowledgeable, or productive as Martin about free geospatial > software so the fact that OSGeo has not managed to pull in his energy > reveals both that the community fails to include some great folk and that > OSGeo does not actually manage to represent the interests of 'free > geospatial software' in general. > > > [3] For the pedantic, yes, the OSGeo incubating committee did not actually > *deny* geotoolkit. Indeed trac ticket 362 (http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/** > ticket/362 <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/362>) is still open. > However, the incubating committee slowly stopped communicating with the > project resulting in a de facto rejection. Taking a formal decision might > have required some fortitude but would have been more elegant. > > > > __**_ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discuss<http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> > -- Justin Deoliveira OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Enterprise support for open source geospatial. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination: Andrea Aime
Just wanted to add my +1 to this nomination. Anyone who has worked with Andrea knows there is no question about his commitment to open source geo software. He will make a great charter member. On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Gabriel Roldan wrote: > I second Andrea's nomination too. Having worked closely with him on > the GeoTools and GeoServer projects for the last seven years or so, > and truly believe neither project would be what they are without > Andrea's continued commitment. > > Gabriel. > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Jeff McKenna > wrote: > > On 12-06-25 2:26 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: > >> I would like to nominate Andrea Aime for OSGeo charter membership. > >> > > > > I second Andrea's nomination. I've had the pleasure to work closely > > with him through several FOSS4G Benchmarking exercises; he is a very > > hard worker and a big supporter of OSGeo. And I'm proud to say that > > we're good friends even after going through all that :) > > > > -jeff > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff McKenna > > MapServer Consulting and Training Services > > http://www.gatewaygeomatics.com/ > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > -- > Gabriel Roldan > OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org > Expert service straight from the developers. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- Justin Deoliveira OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Enterprise support for open source geospatial. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Java library that can read GML file then port to Java classes
In general only the simplest profiles are gml are handled, more or less simple features level 0. I don't think this schema falls into that category so while geotools could parse it I don't think you would get exactly what you expect. I suggest asking on the geotools user lists, the folks that do complex application schema support should be able to help. -Justin On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:13 AM, eros wrote: > > Can support the below gml/schema files? > > xsd files: > http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/Ksj_Common.xsd > Ksj_Common.xsd > > http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd > KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd > > gml file: > http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml > A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml > > Please take a look with the files. > thanks a lot. > -- > View this message in context: > http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/Java-library-that-can-read-GML-file-then-port-to-Java-classes-tp5528885p5533815.html > Sent from the OSGeo Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- Justin Deoliveira OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Enterprise support for open source geospatial. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java library that can read GML file then port to Java classes
Gml 3.2 support is coming in geotools soon, but not quite there yet. If you are eager for it though you can grab it from my github repository. http://github.com/jdeolive/geotools/tree/gml32 I hope to commit the changes back to geotools svn sometime this week. -Justin On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:37 AM, eros wrote: > > I would like to read a gml file then port to Java classes for further > processing.. > i've heard geotools has GML3_2 package... > > please help me to decide on what java library to use... > > thanks > -- > View this message in context: > http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/Java-library-that-can-read-GML-file-then-port-to-Java-classes-tp5528885p5528885.html > Sent from the OSGeo Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- Justin Deoliveira OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Enterprise support for open source geospatial. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Versioning of spatial data - Query
GeoTools has some custom extensions which add versioning capabilities on top of postgis: http://geotools.codehaus.org/Versioning+Postgis On top of that some extensions were also built into GeoServer that extend the WFS protocol to support versioning: http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Versioning+WFS+-+Extensions It is still experimental at this stage but people have successfully set up working demos with it. -Justin Abhay wrote: Hello All, I wish to know, is there any system other than ESRI ArcSDE that supports versioning of GeoSpatial Data. If so could anyone point me to a possible solution in opensource and apart from write my own custom application/Workflow from scratch. I have tried google for solution but am not able make or break any idea to solve this, so with a confused mind I ask, could there be a possibility that SVN or any version control system (application/mechanics/functionality) be merged with PostgreSQL (Postgis) to create this solution. Rgds. Abhay. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Justin Deoliveira OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Enterprise support for open source geospatial. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Generating html clickable image maps from polygons
Someone recently contributed an html imagemap module for GeoServer. http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/HTML+ImageMap+support An example of it in action here: http://geo.openplans.org/states.html -Justin Alexandre Leroux wrote: Hi list, A rather technical question. I was able to find a potential solution with GRASS GIS, but want to know if there are other solutions involving FOSS4G software. Which other FOSS4G software can generate html clickable image maps out of polygons? The challenge is simple: a colleague has many polygons that must be exported to several clickable PNGs like the example on this page: http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/sqc_e.html (A webmap tool such as OpenLayers would be much more powerful, but in some cases we do need clickable PNGs.) I found out it seems GRASS GIS 6.3+ can do it via its HTMLMAP driver: http://www.phygeo.uni-hannover.de/grass/grass63/manuals/html63_user/htmlmapdriver.html Can any other OSGeo software do the same? Thanks for any reply! Alex -- Justin Deoliveira OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Enterprise support for open source geospatial. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Software to test a WCS server?
Hi Alexandre, There is a CITE (Compliance and Interoperability Test Engine) which is used to test reference implementations for OGC specs, including WCS. You can get the engine from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/teamengine To get the tests for wcs you need to sign up for an account on the OGC portal.I am not sure if they are publicly available elsewhere. The easiest way (if you are interested) is probably to send a message to the CITE forum: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And state that you want access to the tests. -Justin Alexandre Leroux wrote: Hi all, I tried to find a quick way to test our WCS server implementation (it's specifically for an in-house meteorological data format - not useful outside our organization). What I'm looking for is a simple software such as QGIS, uDig or similar to test loading data from our WCS server, and help us debugging it! :-) After some searches, I found GeoServer supports WCS and well, nothing else. I must be wrong! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Coverage_Service GDAL supports WCS to some extent: http://gdal.org/frmt_wcs.html Thanks a lot for any feedback! Alex http://slashgeo.org -- Justin Deoliveira OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Enterprise support for open source geospatial. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Projects at FOSS4G
Hi Tyler, There will be three people representing the Geotools and GeoServer projects. 3 talks, 1 workshop, and 1 lab. OpenGeo is also sending two people from the OpenLayers project as well. -Justin Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: I'm curious about how many different projects (OSGeo and others) will be represented at FOSS4G by speakers, workshops, etc. Rather than wade through the presentation listing, I thought I'd be lazy and ask here. If you know that your project(s) are going to be represented there, could you drop me a note? Just let me know in general how many folks from it will be there. If there are enough people around we could arrange times for people to "meet your project" at the OSGeo booth. It would also help to know if your project has plans to bring flyers or brochures to hand out at the booth. The OSGeo Marketing Committee is arranging to have some overview brochures. Also, all projects and committees are welcome to do a brief talk at the Annual General Meeting.[1] It had great turnout last year and was very informative! Just sign up if you want to talk or add an item to the list for debate/discussion during the meeting. Tyler [1] AGM: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meeting_2008 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Justin Deoliveira Software Engineer, OpenGeo http://opengeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library
Pretty much all client code of the referencing/crs subsystem in GeoTools goes through GeoAPI. When the switch occurred a few years back the maintainers were aggressive about removing direct references to the GeoTools implementation classes. Also, both GeoServer and uDig make extensive use of these interfaces as well. -Justin Landon Blake wrote: Thanks for the input Justin. I agree simplicity (and the broad adoption that results from simplicity) is a primary goal. We shouldn't let GeoAPI stand in the way of that. Does anyone know how much of the existing GeoTools code is actually based on the CRS interfaces in GeoAPI? Is anyone besides GeoTools using the GeoAPI interfaces for a CRS library implementation in Java? Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Deoliveira Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:20 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library I know some of you want to know why we aren't just going to use the GeoAPI interfaces. I don't know enough about the GeoAPI code to say that it won't be used. I think that will need to be part of our research process. It would make sense to use GeoAPI as a home for common interfaces if this is possible. I don't want to reinvent any existing technology. Just to chime in about GeoAPI. From someone who has had to implement a number of its interfaces here are my thoughts. 1) Its a great way to talk about standards in the context of java interfaces 2) Its not a good way to promote interoperability Now this is just my opinion of course so take it with a grain of salt. But anyone who has looked at the geoapi interfaces can tell you they are not simple. Which creates a large entry barrier for someone wanting to implement them, which defeats the entire purpose. I would think by definition a library which is intended to be used as a base for other projects needs to be as simple as possible. Look at proj for instance, i am by no means an expert on the code base but from what I have seen there are no unnecessary abstractions. Which I would think is a large part of the reason it has been utilized so effectively by most of the other projects in the C and python community. My 2c. -Justin Landon P.S. - I have subscribed to the MetaCRS mailing list. I will post messages there about any decisions made on sharing "programming-language-independent" (PLI) resources like CRS definitions or test cases. *Warning: *Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss !DSPAM:4007,481f601c109671628642973! -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library
I know some of you want to know why we aren’t just going to use the GeoAPI interfaces. I don’t know enough about the GeoAPI code to say that it won’t be used. I think that will need to be part of our research process. It would make sense to use GeoAPI as a home for common interfaces if this is possible. I don’t want to reinvent any existing technology. Just to chime in about GeoAPI. From someone who has had to implement a number of its interfaces here are my thoughts. 1) Its a great way to talk about standards in the context of java interfaces 2) Its not a good way to promote interoperability Now this is just my opinion of course so take it with a grain of salt. But anyone who has looked at the geoapi interfaces can tell you they are not simple. Which creates a large entry barrier for someone wanting to implement them, which defeats the entire purpose. I would think by definition a library which is intended to be used as a base for other projects needs to be as simple as possible. Look at proj for instance, i am by no means an expert on the code base but from what I have seen there are no unnecessary abstractions. Which I would think is a large part of the reason it has been utilized so effectively by most of the other projects in the C and python community. My 2c. -Justin Landon P.S. – I have subscribed to the MetaCRS mailing list. I will post messages there about any decisions made on sharing “programming-language-independent” (PLI) resources like CRS definitions or test cases. *Warning: *Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. !DSPAM:4007,481f601c109671628642973! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss !DSPAM:4007,481f601c109671628642973! -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed
> > The future. > == > Justin Deoliveira, of the Open Planning Project, was in charge > of the Integration Showcase, and he loaded the Canadian geodata > onto the Refractions server. During FOSS4G2007 I had a > discussion with Justin and Chris Holmes, about the Integration > Showcase. What came out of that was an idea of 'how to do it > better in the future'. I then had subsequent discussions with > some other people at the conference about this idea. Here is my > interpretation of the general outline of what was discussed. > Part of the problem was that I was not aggressive enough about making sure people had demos in place. Everyone was so busy (understandably) as the conference got near that it just fell off. And I am no exception :). Also as Jody stated the other big issue was hardware availability. Some interested parties just could not participate because they did not have a machine to work with on site. I think to pull this off next time around one will need to put something a bit more formal in place. Perhaps having people "sign up" for a machine to be used for the integration showcase well before hand (like around the same time they submit workshops). An additional machine is then rented for them (or perhaps one of the workshop machines is reused). Having some sort of "contract" like this in place would be a bit more binding and would force people to ensure things are set up before hand. Especially since a machine has been set aside for them. Organizers could then treat showcase setup like workshop setup. My 2c. -Justin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G
> A MapServer WMS is probably, just like the database itself, one of the > backend services that should be hosted on the main server and have its > URL published as early as possible so that others can build their demos > against it. > > >> >> But we can definitely keep it running in order to participate in the >> showcase. A volunteer (more experienced with mapserver then myself :) ) >> to help setup some nice map files would be welcomed. >> > > Which version of MapServer are you currently running, probably 4.10? > Would it be an option to also install a recent 5.0 beta with AGG support > (with some help)? Yes 4.10. I will grab the latest 5.0 beta and see if i can compile it. > > Hopefully we can make that a MapServer community effort and if Paul (who > just replied saying he'd also be interested) and/or myself setup a > strawman mapfile others from the community can contribute enhancements > to it to make the default map output (without SLD) look real good. > > > This is probably becoming off-topic for this list, is there another > better place where we could continue that discussion with interested > parties? Agreed. I will talk to Paul R about possible setting up a mail list for the integration showcase... if there is not already one. > > Daniel -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G
I just threw up a GeoServer instance and updated the wiki page. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase#GeoServer Currently it is only publishing a single dataset, an "appointments" dataset as Arnulf suggested. Let he brainstorming begin about what kind of "live" datasets we want to setup and I can do the GeoServer configuration accordingly. -Justin Cameron Shorter wrote: > Arnulf, good idea to have a WFS-T we can all connect to. How about we > publish the URL before the demo so that we can set up and test our > clients, then reset the data at the start of the conference. (Mike Adair > is setting up a Mapbuilder client.) > > Arnulf Christl wrote: >> Our 2ct for the Integration Showcase: >> >>> PS. I am really hoping that anyone good at MapServer will take a run >>> at the problem. >> >> We are interested in consuming WMS and WFS services in our application >> Mapbender. We do not need the Online Resources or FeatureTypes of the >> services now because we want to add the services during the FOSS4G2007 >> Integration Showcase. >> Unfortunately the Mapbender workshop W-03 is at the same time that >> Jeff and MapStorer lab and during the whole conference at the OSGeo >> booth. Potentially the outcome of a previous workshop could be this >> WMS... (dream on). >> >> We share Jody's hope that someone from the MapServer community is >> actually setting up a WMS for or during FOSS4G. >> For example W05: Tom Kralidis >> Environmennt Canada >> Daniel Morissette >> MapGears >> >> Additionally we hope that someone from the GeoServer community will do >> the same for a WFS-T. >> [W07] Introduction to Geospatial Collaboration using Geoserver >> Chris Holmes >> The Open Planning Project >> >> And so on. >> >> The WhereGroup will contribute a generic GeoServer WFS-T with the >> Canadian SRS so that people can add notes, make appointments in >> Victoria during the conference and so on. At the start of the >> conference we let the url out of the bag. >> >> The integration success is if gvSIG and MapBuilder and uDIG can all >> write to the same WFS. A corresponding map is generated by a MapServer >> WMS that looks into the same database. Anybody at FOSS4G who can >> consume these WMS and WFS has access to these feature types and maps >> and make appointments and view them and send them to others with the >> tools of her choice. >> >> If everybody simply uses the same data and makes sure that what they >> do is well documented by EduCom then a life OSGeo SDI with >> documentation and curriculum will evolve. Some tidying can be done >> during the Friday Developers Code Sprint. >> Sounds like a cool conference that I am looking very much forward to. >> 31 days to go. >> Best regards, Arnulf >> >> PS: >> How does the Demonstration Theatre tie into this? >> http://www.foss4g2007.org/exhibition/demotheatre/ >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G
Hi Daniel, I have a mapserver instance installed on the same server running the postgis database. I am using it to publish some raster data via WMS at the moment. Probably use it to serve up some dem data as well. It is not listed on the site because I was thinking that someone else would probably be coming along and throw one up. But we can definitely keep it running in order to participate in the showcase. A volunteer (more experienced with mapserver then myself :) ) to help setup some nice map files would be welcomed. -Justin Daniel Morissette wrote: > Arnulf Christl wrote: >> Potentially the outcome of a previous workshop could be this WMS... >> (dream on). >> >> We share Jody's hope that someone from the MapServer community is >> actually setting up a WMS for or during FOSS4G. >> For example W05: Tom Kralidis >> Environmennt Canada >> Daniel Morissette >> MapGears >> > > It's a real shame that MapServer is not represented in the Integration > Showcase (http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase) > > I didn't realize that until just now. > > Sorry to break your hopes, but the OGC Workshop (W-05) is not currently > planning to produce the WMS service based on the showcase data that > you're dreaming of. I guess we could/should rework it to do that, but I > don't think I have the time. > > My big problem is time... I'd love to see a MapServer WMS in the > showcase and I really think that we're missing the boat if there is not > one, but I have already got way too much stuff on my plate and cannot > undertake that. I mean I could hack together a quick mapfile, but what > we'd need is a mapfile that makes the data look really good and shows > the real power of MapServer... and that will take time. > > There are hundreds of MapServer users out there who could contribute > that bit. If there is anyone interested in setting up WMS services based > on the showcase data then please speak up. > > Daniel -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G
Hi Arnulf, > > Additionally we hope that someone from the GeoServer community will do > the same for a WFS-T. > [W07] Introduction to Geospatial Collaboration using Geoserver > Chris Holmes > The Open Planning Project > > And so on. > > The WhereGroup will contribute a generic GeoServer WFS-T with the > Canadian SRS so that people can add notes, make appointments in Victoria > during the conference and so on. At the start of the conference we let > the url out of the bag. > I will be throwing up a GeoServer instance on the demo server. I like the idea of throwing together some live tables that people can edit via wfs with the various clients and publish via wms. The appointment scenario is a good one to start with. I will update the wiki with the connection info. > > PS: > How does the Demonstration Theatre tie into this? > http://www.foss4g2007.org/exhibition/demotheatre/ > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > !DSPAM:4007,46cefcb1142274901796417! > -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G
Hi Markus, Whoops, this is a typo on the page. It is actually port 20543, not 80543. I updated the connection info on the page. -Justin Markus Neteler wrote: > Hi Justin, > > I am curious to try with GRASS, but v.in.ogr (OGR) tells me: > > ERROR 1: PQconnectdb failed. > could not connect to server: Connection timed out > Is the server running on host "office.refractions.net" and accepting > TCP/IP connections on port 80543? > > date > Thu Aug 23 21:44:01 CEST 2007 > > Some server overload? > > Markus > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > !DSPAM:4007,46cde3a3210171096210785! > -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G
Hi Bob, I can generate database dumps for you. Just tell me what tables in particular you are interested in. -Justin Bob Basques wrote: > Justin, > > So it's all Database based. > > Hmm, I figured it was going to be all different types of source data. > This is kinda making it too easy now. (Really!) > > The system I was going to demo has some good pluses as far as easy > integration of disparate data. I don't suppose there is a compressed DB > dump of this data around anywhere? > > I'll work through the Database stuff first then and see where it all > comes out. > > Don't have a PostGIS database available at the moment though, will need > to get that going too. > > Thanks > > bobb > > > > Justin Deoliveira wrote: >> Hi Bob, >> >> I think what Jody was trying to point you at was this: >> >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase#PostGIS_Database_:_Refractions_Research >> >> It is what you say, a single spot of storage for the data which has a >> subset of those datasets posted on the Canadian Geodata page. >> >> -Justin >> >> Bob Basques wrote: >> >>> Jody, >>> >>> Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this >>> page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase >>> A lot of reference and catalog description links though. >>> >>> Is this it? :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not >>> exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me. >>> >>> Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy of >>> the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would start >>> folks going. It would make it much easier to get started on >>> participation. >>> >>> >>> bobb >>> >>> >>> >>> Jody Garnett wrote: >>> >>>> Bob Basques wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is this restricted to conference attendees? >>>>> >>>> Nope. >>>> >>>>> Also, where is the data? Is there one copy of somewhere to download? >>>>> >>>> See the wiki page. >>>> >>>> Jody >>>> PS. Join the osgeo data committee if you want to collaborate on this >>>> kind of thing outside of the bounds of the conference. >>>> ___ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> >>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > !DSPAM:4007,46cdc25d158453668746562! > > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > !DSPAM:4007,46cdc25d158453668746562! -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase
Ahh... I see... apologies, I got lost in the various topics of this thread :). -Justin Bob Basques wrote: > Justin, > > I was trying to set up a standalone install. I was the one confused to > start wit, sorry about that. > > This stand alone service I was thinking about would simply display the > data in our application as a demonstrator. > > I'm not attending the conference either. Having a standalone interface > has some promotional advantages on this end. > > bobb > > > > Justin Deoliveira wrote: >> Hi Bob, >> >> I think I may be getting confused now too... is there a reason you cant >> just hit one of the layers that is currently set up in the refractions >> database? If none of those layers work for you we can work on finding a >> dataset that will. >> >> -Justin >> >> Bob Basques wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> Was only trying to set up a web service that I presumed could be listed >>> somewhere that would demo our Client with the data that was described, I >>> can download the data myself too. >>> Having a DB dump from the PostGIS side, even with some small sub-area >>> would work too. This is just a thought though from my end. >>> >>> I'll go and download what I can and see what I can get up and running, >>> maybe do a couple of layers first, then come back to the list for >>> reaction on it to that point, before going to hard at it. >>> >>> Thanks everyone. >>> >>> bobb >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave Patton wrote: >>> >>>> Jody Garnett wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bob Basques wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jody, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this >>>>>> page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase >>>>>> A lot of reference and catalog description links though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this it? :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not >>>>>> exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy >>>>>> of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would >>>>>> start folks going. It would make it much easier to get started on >>>>>> participation. >>>>>> >>>>> I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there; >>>>> you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it >>>>> sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton >>>>> described: >>>>> - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata >>>>> >>>> The "proper" place to get the original data is via the >>>> links on the Canadian Geodata wiki page. >>>> >>>> All of that data was acquired by myself, Jason, and Justin, >>>> and all of it has physically been loaded onto the server >>>> that Justin is managing, which hosts the Integration Showcase. >>>> >>>> Not all of the loaded data is yet available via services on >>>> the Integration Showcase server. That's the whole point - until >>>> all the participants in the showcase 'add their piece', you >>>> won't see the complete picture. >>>> >>>> Going back to Jody's original point - if you want to be able >>>> to show your software, on your laptop, using the same data >>>> as is available on the Integration Showcase server, then your >>>> best bet is to download the data yourself from the original >>>> data source(s). >>>> >>>> It's a different proposition if you want to use your software, >>>> on your laptop, to access data/services that are available >>>> via the Integration Showcase server. For that, you need to >>>> coordinate with Justin. >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > !DSPAM:4007,46cdc1e1157887082231907! > > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > !DSPAM:4007,46cdc1e1157887082231907! -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase
Hi Bob, I think I may be getting confused now too... is there a reason you cant just hit one of the layers that is currently set up in the refractions database? If none of those layers work for you we can work on finding a dataset that will. -Justin Bob Basques wrote: > All, > > Was only trying to set up a web service that I presumed could be listed > somewhere that would demo our Client with the data that was described, I > can download the data myself too. > Having a DB dump from the PostGIS side, even with some small sub-area > would work too. This is just a thought though from my end. > > I'll go and download what I can and see what I can get up and running, > maybe do a couple of layers first, then come back to the list for > reaction on it to that point, before going to hard at it. > > Thanks everyone. > > bobb > > > > Dave Patton wrote: >> Jody Garnett wrote: >>> Bob Basques wrote: >>>> Jody, >>>> >>>> Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this >>>> page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase >>>> A lot of reference and catalog description links though. >>>> >>>> Is this it? :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not >>>> exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me. >>>> >>>> Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy >>>> of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would >>>> start folks going. It would make it much easier to get started on >>>> participation. >>> I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there; >>> you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it >>> sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton >>> described: >>> - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata >> >> The "proper" place to get the original data is via the >> links on the Canadian Geodata wiki page. >> >> All of that data was acquired by myself, Jason, and Justin, >> and all of it has physically been loaded onto the server >> that Justin is managing, which hosts the Integration Showcase. >> >> Not all of the loaded data is yet available via services on >> the Integration Showcase server. That's the whole point - until >> all the participants in the showcase 'add their piece', you >> won't see the complete picture. >> >> Going back to Jody's original point - if you want to be able >> to show your software, on your laptop, using the same data >> as is available on the Integration Showcase server, then your >> best bet is to download the data yourself from the original >> data source(s). >> >> It's a different proposition if you want to use your software, >> on your laptop, to access data/services that are available >> via the Integration Showcase server. For that, you need to >> coordinate with Justin. >> > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > !DSPAM:4007,46cdbf0d153591804284693! > -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase
Hi Tyler, That is definitely the idea. To have exhibitors throw up various services which hit the the data / other services and have people go around to the different booths and see how everything interoperates. -Justin Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: > Isn't part of the idea that the db can be hit live during the event - or > was that a pipe dream? > > Tyler > > On 23-Aug-07, at 9:55 AM, Justin Deoliveira wrote: > >> The link provided by Jody is more for people who can access the data >> directly from the postgis database. >> >> If you are looking to get at the original data you will have to contact >> the provider of the dataset: myself, Dave Patton, or Jason Birch. >> >> -Justin >> >> Bob Basques wrote: >>> Jody, >>> >>> Not a big deal for me, just thinking about others that might try it. >>> >>> I started through the first entry in Dave Pattons's list and still >>> haven't figured out where the download spot is, I'm doing this between >>> other things though, so I'm easily distracted. >>> >>> I'll do more of a random attempt at looking for the data sources next. >>> >>> bobb >>> >>> >>> >>> Jody Garnett wrote: >>>> Bob Basques wrote: >>>>> Jody, >>>>> >>>>> Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this >>>>> page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase >>>>> A lot of reference and catalog description links though. >>>>> >>>>> Is this it? :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not >>>>> exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me. >>>>> >>>>> Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy >>>>> of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would >>>>> start folks going. It would make it much easier to get started on >>>>> participation. >>>> I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there; >>>> you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it >>>> sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton >>>> described: >>>> - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata >>>> >>>> We should edit the wiki to make this more obvious, >>>> Jody >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Deoliveira >> The Open Planning Project >> http://topp.openplans.org >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > Tyler Mitchell > Executive Director > Open Source Geospatial Foundation > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > P: +1-250-277-1621 > M: +1-250-303-1831 > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > !DSPAM:4007,46cdbda0152322458217002! > -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase
The link provided by Jody is more for people who can access the data directly from the postgis database. If you are looking to get at the original data you will have to contact the provider of the dataset: myself, Dave Patton, or Jason Birch. -Justin Bob Basques wrote: > Jody, > > Not a big deal for me, just thinking about others that might try it. > > I started through the first entry in Dave Pattons's list and still > haven't figured out where the download spot is, I'm doing this between > other things though, so I'm easily distracted. > > I'll do more of a random attempt at looking for the data sources next. > > bobb > > > > Jody Garnett wrote: >> Bob Basques wrote: >>> Jody, >>> >>> Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this >>> page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase >>> A lot of reference and catalog description links though. >>> >>> Is this it? :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not >>> exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me. >>> >>> Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy >>> of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would >>> start folks going. It would make it much easier to get started on >>> participation. >> I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there; >> you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it >> sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton >> described: >> - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata >> >> We should edit the wiki to make this more obvious, >> Jody >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > !DSPAM:4007,46cdbb64149442458217002! > -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G
Hi Bob, I think what Jody was trying to point you at was this: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase#PostGIS_Database_:_Refractions_Research It is what you say, a single spot of storage for the data which has a subset of those datasets posted on the Canadian Geodata page. -Justin Bob Basques wrote: > Jody, > > Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this > page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase > A lot of reference and catalog description links though. > > Is this it? :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not > exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me. > > Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy of > the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would start > folks going. It would make it much easier to get started on > participation. > > > bobb > > > > Jody Garnett wrote: >> Bob Basques wrote: >>> Is this restricted to conference attendees? >> Nope. >>> Also, where is the data? Is there one copy of somewhere to download? >> See the wiki page. >> >> Jody >> PS. Join the osgeo data committee if you want to collaborate on this >> kind of thing outside of the bounds of the conference. >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> > _______ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > !DSPAM:4007,46cdb400140612085621377! > -- Justin Deoliveira The Open Planning Project http://topp.openplans.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
