Is there any merit in the possibility of users here being able to 'Rate'
another user, or a thread, and after a suitably poor rating the thread
gets automatically locked, or the user gets some kind of penalty?
Perhaps people with a higher rating have more weight when voting, and
people with a
London's Burning - The Clash?
Fire - Arthur Brown?
Burn - Deep Purple?
Disco Inferno - The Tramps?
Towering Inferno?
Blazing Saddles?
Backdraft?
Fireman Sam?
Are any of these forbidden - or have I missed the point?
I'll get my coat!
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Khuli wrote:
Is there any merit in the possibility of users here being able to 'Rate'
another user, or a thread, and after a suitably poor rating the thread
gets automatically locked, or the user gets some kind of penalty?
Perhaps people with a higher rating have more weight when voting, and
I like this forum very much. I have received lots of helpful patient
advice and sometimes when I have felt brave enough contributed some
ideas, help myself. I have no personal experience of being flamed,
trolled, nor have I seen any instance of it. That maybe is because the
threads I follow do
haunyack;268726 Wrote:
Who said anything about productive?
Start another thread if you wish to discuss production.
Oh, sorry, I forgot that you own this thread and have the right to tell
others what to post where.
At risk of violating the board rules, I will say something I would not
Whatever happened to being polite?
If you were invited in to someone's home, would you tell them your
curtains suck or the renovations you're undertaking are a poorly
implemented pipe dream?
No. That would be rude.
Then why is it acceptable here?
Constructive criticism is fine and, in fact,
Well said Mark..
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Thanks Mark, my sentiments exactly.
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Mark Lanctot;268957 Wrote:
Whatever happened to being polite?
Because some folks feel they're above it, and there's probably not a
whole lot that can be done about it. There will always be kind,
thoughtful types. And there will always be ... other types.
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Jon Heal says:
Have a
Thanks for the comments everyone.
jonheal;268976 Wrote:
Because some folks feel they're above it, and there's probably not a
whole lot that can be done about it. There will always be kind,
thoughtful types. And there will always be ... other types.
Hopefully it will become evident that the
Thirded.
Mark, I believe I must have been 'channelling'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=268400highlight=paraphrasing#post268400)
you/one of your posts yesterday...
I was thinking we might do something more along the lines of the
Sean-Adams-Response-O-Matic..
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contribute at all to such
threads and I bet there are others like me.
Count on it. It isn't just limited to forum threads. What motivation is
there to give free time testing, debugging, or writing for someone else's
benefit when it's just for continued abuse. I can certainly understand
the
This thread has been closed by a moderator for one of the following
reasons:
* Profanity: This post contains expletives or vulgar language. Please
post in more friendly manner.
* Personal attack: Insults or rude ad hominem arguments directed at
another member are not permitted.
* Troll /
JimC wrote:
This thread has been closed by a moderator for one of the following
reasons:
* Profanity: This post contains expletives or vulgar language. Please
post in more friendly manner.
* Personal attack: Insults or rude ad hominem arguments directed at
another member are not
We looked at the value of this thread, versus the one post that was in
violation, and opted to reopen the thread and simply remove the
offending post. It seemed a bit harsh to close the thread for one post
that needed to be removed.
We'll get better at this.
-= Jim
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well, she
As a relative newcomer to all things Slim I found this forum to be an
excellent resource in helping me take the plunge. The fact that Sean
co particpate so much gives a value to this not often found. It happens
to be the only forum I actually post in, and the only one I read with
any regularity
Mark Lanctot;268496 Wrote:
If you antagonize them to start with you are not likely to get a useful
response. The fact that such posters sometimes do get a useful
response speaks to the extraordinary patience of some of the regulars
here.
I've witness this and was amazed. There are some
Mark Lanctot;268496 Wrote:
...the adage you'll get more flies with sugar than with vinegar.
though I've never understood why anyone *wants* flies... (and of course
we all know what substance attracts more flies than anything!).
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mudlark;268565 Wrote:
PS SMC2911 - Thanks for the incite into the workings of the mind of a
loud poster, If it's any consolation the price of gear in the Uk is
without exception higher than one would expect when comparing prices
from either Europe or the States.Perhaps I could say one time
I am not opposed to criticism, as long as it is civil and polite. If
I told one of my coworkers that the program they wrote sucks, or that
it was a poorly implemented pipe dream, I think it would be considered
rude. If I instead gave a reasoned explanation of weaknesses in their
code, I don't
mudlark;268619 Wrote:
The impression of words like sucks is that the user doesn't care. It's
an easy and lazy throw away word which can be amusing in the appropriate
context.
If someone is asking for help then why use words that are ill
considered? Many people don't think the Sb3 sucks so
mudlark;268664 Wrote:
I don't advocate banning the use of the word sucks, I just ask folks to
make a balanced approach to posting. Why unnecessarily upset anyone?
What do you want, the opportunity to post what you want or the
opportunity to have access to the widest sources of advice
mudlark;268671 Wrote:
If these people happen to be the very people who can give you the
advice you want, then you run the risk of not getting the advice at
all.
Small price to pay in my opinion.
The self-fulfilling nature of a post such as that probably deserves no
advice.
If you don't
MrSinatra;268642 Wrote:
and thats the beauty of freedom. the people are free to say something,
and you are free to ignore it, deride it, whatever.
but BAN it? make policies against it?
sorry, i take a stand there.
I don't advocate banning the use of the word sucks, I just ask folks to
MrSinatra;268642 Wrote:
and thats the beauty of freedom. the people are free to say something,
and you are free to ignore it, deride it, whatever.
but BAN it? make policies against it?
sorry, i take a stand there.
So you're fine with the forums being full of spam?
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MrSinatra;268652 Wrote:
i fully support that you have the right to do it. as someone else said,
this is your show, your forums, your deal.
We run the server and pay the bill, but the forum is FOR all of its
members. If they are better served by moderated forums then we'll
moderate. I realize
snarlydwarf;268709 Wrote:
So referring to the people who contribute as the Brain trust and
calling the software spaghetti code is unintentional rudeness?
No my dear snarly, it's intentional rudeness without the profanity. (I
hate smileys)
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haunyack;268706 Wrote:
I believe most offensive language that occurs in these forum is
spontaneous and stems from frustration coupled with an immediate avenue
of expression for that frustration.
The intentional stuff is readily apparent, and almost never happens
here.
So referring to the
snarlydwarf;268724 Wrote:
And you believe that being deliberately offensive to anyone that might
be willing to help is productive.
Interesting.
Who said anything about productive?
Start another thread if you wish to discuss production.
This thread is ostensibly concerned with the affects
haunyack;268712 Wrote:
I suppose a user with the same level of frustration would not consider
that statement rude.
On the flipside, someone who works to make the code usable may find it
offensive.
And you believe that being deliberately offensive to anyone that might
be willing to help is
Pat Farrell;268731 Wrote:
You know what bad titles are.
well, apparently YOU do.
i for one, don't share your level of sensitivity. i might call it
hyper. is that rude of me?
my basic premise, just to restate, is that different folks have
different standards, and i have all too often seen
haunyack wrote:
This thread is ostensibly concerned with the affects of free speech
on individuals and the greater good of this forum.
Free speech as in free beer?
This site is not about free beer or free speech. Go to politico.com or
moveon.org for free speech. Similarly, this thread has
Pat Farrell;268731 Wrote:
haunyack wrote:
This thread is ostensibly concerned with the affects of free
speech
on individuals and the greater good of this forum.
Free speech as in free beer?
This site is not about free beer or free speech. Go to politico.com or
moveon.org for free
MrSinatra;268742 Wrote:
well, apparently YOU do.
i for one, don't share your level of sensitivity. i might call it
hyper. is that rude of me?
my basic premise, just to restate, is that different folks have
different standards, and i have all too often seen people, especially
newbies,
mlsstl;268705 Wrote:
Sadly, what is often forgotten by the speech-with-no-barrier advocates
is that there is no shortage of people who will, knowingly or not, test
any situation to see just how far they can push things.
If unknowingly, then the test point is moot.
How many times have you
radish;268699 Wrote:
No, it isn't, ...
MrSinatra;268669 Wrote:
spam, flaming, profanity are separate issues, narrowly defined, and not
applicable to the points i'm making.
I'll let MrSinatra speak for himself then, in your case.
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MrSinatra;268669 Wrote:
i want everyone to have the the opportunity to express themselves as
they see fit, and everyone else have the opportunity to respond as they
see fit, or not, on a case by case basis.
what i don't want, is to see the community put hands over their
collective eyes
radish;268663 Wrote:
So you're fine with the forums being full of spam?
I don't think MrSinatra inferred that.
That's another issue and you know it.
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haunyack;268665 Wrote:
I don't think MrSinatra inferred that.
That's another issue and you know it.
.
No, it isn't, they're fundamentally the same. I don't believe that
MrSinatra does think we should allow spam, and that's the point. We
don't tolerate spam on the forum because it's noise
i fully support that you have the right to do it. as someone else said,
this is your show, your forums, your deal.
but i just don't think it is right to do it. the shame is that the
thread you closed clearly was constructive.
however, i greatly appreciate the chance to say this and that my
MrSinatra;268591 Wrote:
i just get the feeling that some here think sucks is beyond the pale,
and thats what i consider orwellian.
The impression of words like sucks is that the user doesn't care.
It's an easy and lazy throw away word which is amusing in the
appropriate context.
If
This forum is not open source, and it is not about free speech, although
the owners may manage it that way, if they prefer.
Posting here is not a right. It is a privilege. That privilege is
extended to users by the owners, who are the ones who pay the freight.
The owners may continue to
MrSinatra;268577 Wrote:
this forum should be open as the source code is.
I feel like agreeing with you on some level, but I'm not sure what you
mean by that.
The source code is readable by anyone, by writeable by only a very
select few. I don't think any useful analogy can be made.
the
seanadams;268313 Wrote:
We have tried for a long time to avoid moderating here. Spam and
profanity are the only things we delete.
This forum is for you. I prefer not to police what people talk about
but I do feel that we need to keep the environment civil and friendly.
Criticism is
aubuti;268526 Wrote:
though I've never understood why anyone *wants* flies... (and of course
we all know what substance attracts more flies than anything!).
Aubuti, why are you so shy of using the word 'jam'?
My glass is always half full.
M.
PS SMC2911 - Thanks for the incite into the
MrSinatra wrote:
spam, flaming, profanity are separate issues, narrowly defined...
There's the rub. What you infer to be so easily defined may not be so
clear to another free speech advocate. What looks like a flame to you
may well be a central, heartfelt issue for someone else. (Think of the
Siduhe;268400 Wrote:
One of the most effective posts I have ever seen on here was someone
responding to a very over-the-top first post with (paraphrasing here)
-Hi and welcome to the forums. Sorry to hear you're having problems.
I have a few ideas, but posting stuff like that doesn't make
seanadams;268581 Wrote:
I feel like agreeing with you on some level, but I'm not sure what you
mean by that.
The source code is readable by anyone, by writeable by only a very
select few. I don't think any useful analogy can be made.
sorry, lets consider it a bad metaphor. i just meant
Mitch Harding wrote:
I don't think (or maybe I just hope) that nobody is opposed to
negative opinions. I think the objection is to people who aren't
civil when expressing them. I don't think it's too much to ask that
people conduct themselves politely, regardless of the opinion they are
I don't think (or maybe I just hope) that nobody is opposed to
negative opinions. I think the objection is to people who aren't
civil when expressing them. I don't think it's too much to ask that
people conduct themselves politely, regardless of the opinion they are
expressing.
On Feb 12, 2008
I guess the fact that every contributor to this thread being a regular
contributor points to an unlikely downward trend of this sort of thing,
given most offenders in this vein tend to be infrequent posters. I do
notice that thread moderators on other forums tend to be more proactive
about this
radish;268448 Wrote:
Better yet, if you feel like you need to rant just type up your comment
in notepad. Then take a deep breath and delete it. You'll feel better
and won't have wasted anyone's time :)
If only, Radish...if only...
You are right - that is amuch better idea!
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Phil Leigh;268421 Wrote:
That's actually a very good idea (IMHO).
At least all the stuff that none of us want to read is contained in one
place.
Better yet, if you feel like you need to rant just type up your comment
in notepad. Then take a deep breath and delete it. You'll feel better
and
peejay;268761 Wrote:
Furthermore, I think we should ban the use of the word
'proselytize'.
:-)That'll be me. Sorry. Can I use evangelize?
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MrSinatra;268591 Wrote:
i just get the feeling that some here think sucks is beyond the pale,
and thats what i consider orwellian.
I see many separate issues:
1) what words are acceptable?
2) shouldn't a subject describe, well, the subject of the post?
3) is flamebait acceptable?
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That'll be me. Sorry. Can I use evangelize?
No worries
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damian.duffy;268412 Wrote:
This is a super forum and I'm sure it is frustrating for those who do
know what they're talking about to see off-the-cuff and apparently
disparaging comments.
But equally some people will want to have a rant and want to be
understood. There's no point in me
This is a super forum and I'm sure it is frustrating for those who do
know what they're talking about to see off-the-cuff and apparently
disparaging comments.
But equally some people will want to have a rant and want to be
understood. There's no point in me telling Mrs D about things - I have
to
There forums are effectively self-moderating and I'd prefer they stayed
that way. If someone posts something over the top, what usually
happens is that there are some reasoned posts in response, often a
helping hand or two, and in most cases the problem is resolved. In my
experience, the OP
I appreciate the sentiment behind this thread, but I'm afraid I dont
agree with it one bit. Do you think we should also put a stop to any
of the I love my SB titles too, just to ensure that we dont ever sway
too close to voicing an opinion in either direction? Forums are about
freedom of
morris_minor;268369 Wrote:
As a relative newcomer to all things Slim I found this forum to be an
excellent resource in helping me take the plunge. The fact that Sean
co particpate so much gives a value to this not often found. It happens
to be the only forum I actually post in, and the only
I personally think this forum is EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT!!
But I have two things that might be of insight:
1: Some people end up here (and that explains why you say new
members) at the end of a intensely frustrating day trying to get
something to work - they may be a litle hot-headed!
guinness wrote:
I appreciate the sentiment behind this thread, but I'm afraid I dont
agree with it one bit. Do you think we should also put a stop to any
of the I love my SB titles too, just to ensure that we dont ever sway
too close to voicing an opinion in either direction? Forums are
We have tried for a long time to avoid moderating here. Spam and
profanity are the only things we delete.
This forum is for you. I prefer not to police what people talk about
but I do feel that we need to keep the environment civil and friendly.
Criticism is welcome but the recent outbreak of
Imagine my surprise when, after having years of Perl experience, I
learned a new function while checking out some code in SC:
# - WTF?
Is this what I think it is, or I should really brush up on my Perl and
English skills? :)
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mudlark;267768 Wrote:
I would love to hear from the shouters as to why they feel the best way
to approach problems is to use brute force.As I started one of the offending
threads, I thought I would respond to
this request. I don't think that inflammatory titles is my usual modus
operandi
most of the bs threads are in the audiophile forum, the rest are
comparatively free of noise
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Or at least change them when rants start?
I really don't enjoy seeing message with titles such as:
-- WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
-- Why Squeezebox sucks...
-- Australians being screwed on price??
showing up in my email inbox. I don't enjoy the coarse language, and
Agreed 100%. Many of us are here to help and genuinely want people to
have a good SB experience, but it does grate when people (typically
brand new members) launch into a tirade.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I guess this is a flipside of the squeezebox
user base growing - give and take, give and take...
Regards,
Giacomo
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I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments of this thread. I would love
to hear from the shouters as to why they feel the best way to approach
problems is to use brute force.
Modern technology has become so powerful that most people cannot hope
to understand it fully. I include myself in this
Gets my vote. I've always found that the best way to get help and/or
meaningful responses is to be diplomatic, show a bit of respect and
avoid appearing to seem like an incoherent ranter that few of us would
cross a real-life street to assist.
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JJZolx wrote:
Or at least change them when rants start?
I take it that you don't read the included messages, because they'd be
too disturbing for you. It's just the titles that cause you some
distress? Maybe the inflamatory titles are a good thing - then you
know to avoid reading the
Or at least change them when rants start?
I take it that you don't read the included messages, because they'd be
too disturbing for you. It's just the titles that cause you some
distress? Maybe the inflamatory titles are a good thing - then you
know to avoid reading the accompanying message
Pat Farrell;267824 Wrote:
the signal to noise ratio is too low to bother with.
Let us not make that happen
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