I have posted a new patch and Windows .exe for Mplayer in this thread
which hopefully solves this final garbled audio.
.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16917page=9
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I think the restarting is to do with the socketwrapper code. This
listens for output from mplayer and sends it the slim code, if output
stops the code restarts mplayer. This is required on Windows to
overcome problems with piping data. The source of this is available in
SVN if you want to take a
I may have a peek at the socketwrapper code but it is a side issue to
the garbled audio. I was initially worried that the restart was caused
by Mplayer but from the trace it doesn't look likely so I don't think it
is associated with garbled audio just indicative of gaps in the audio
stream.
Re
I think the restarting is to do with the socketwrapper code. This
listens for output from mplayer and sends it the slim code, if output
stops the code restarts mplayer. This is required on Windows to
overcome problems with piping data. The source of this is available in
SVN if you want to take a
I enabled DEBUGPIPE - no message about pipe being stalled just Killing
MoveData thread.
Restart occurred about 3:25 after start of stream. Yesterday it was
about 3:40hrs. I have 2 ethereal traces so I'll try to see if the
times are closer but it looks too coincidental. I'll look into this a
Shall we take this discussion to the plugin list as it sounds like it will
carry on for a while...
Socketwrapper source is here:
http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/tools/socketwrapper/
If you don't see the stalled message, then it sounds like a process in the
pipeline ended.
I enabled
Left it running last night undisturbed, but stream had stopped when I
checked it this morning. This way have been due to my one year old son
doing a bit of keyboard bashing! Unfortunately the window got closed
before I could note down any reports. I'll just keep testing.
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bpa Wrote:
Mplayer in a cmd window is prone to be affected by all sorts of things
mainly scroll bar but something in my screen powersave makes it freeze.
So unless you can leave the PC alone, you can't really trust the test.This is
odd, I don't see anything like this. I do all my mplayer
Neil,
It was late when I wrote the last message. I meant when I run slim.exe
in a CMD window and I have -verbose 1 in the slimserver-convert.conf
file.
It runs with the nice time counter rolling over. If you mess with the
scroll bar, mplayer seems to stop I presume it can't output to the
bpa Wrote:
The file you used to build the latest version of Mplayer was the file I
posted unchanged ? You didn't have to make any changes to make it work
? My current version of demux-real has had many debug changes so I
want to go back to the beginning.I haven't made any changes to the
The file demux_real.c matches my baseline. Also the behaviour and
messages output indicate that your latest Mplayer build used it - so
there is no need for a rebuild.
Rather than keep updating my CVS build - I have stayed with a mid Sept
build and then later re-test with latest CVS and pre7. I
Just came home to find a long list of missing package messages in the
cmd window and a locked up PC. Not sure what happened and when, but I
can't remember the last time my machine fell over, so I'm tentatively
pointing the finger at mplayer/ rm. Is there anything else I can do or
configuration I
I'm pretty sure it was Mplayer - I think it is associated with screen
saver and/or power save for the monitor ?
I don't think it is worth testing this config. as other problems are
ocurring which just distract. What may be more interesting is to
change slimserver-convert.conf so that Mplayer
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With Softqueeze (Linux) playing r4 on Slimserver 6.1.2 on XP, I've had
two cases where connections just dropped and restarted. After the
first I rant ethereal on Linux. After 3h40m (43Mbytes) of trace - same
thing.
Trace shows slimserver on port 9000 (i.e. the port of the Get
Stream.mp3)
Hi bpa,
The mplayer version is 'mplayer dev-CVS-051004-17:18-3.4.2 for Windows'
from the link somewhere in previous posts. Slimserver is 6.2 from
26-10-05 and alienbbc 0.99 from the same date. The audio connects and
plays fine but starts to garble in as little as 30 seconds. The effect
is of
That version of Mplayer didn't handle all the garbled problems
http://www.x2systems.com/AlienBBC/mplayer051015.zip
Try this version - this is the one I'm still testing to find the last
(hopefully) issue- people still seem to get garbled audio but it is far
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Thanks, This is a version of mplayer is a definite improvement, but
still got garbled output after about 30 minutes. Seems to restart the
stream ok without any immediate problems as before. I'll keep listening
and see if the problem exhibits any sort of pattern.
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The newer version dealt with gaps of audio of typically 2-6 seconds. So
when there is a gap Mplayer can only fill in the gap with silence or old
samples - that is probably what you are hearing.
I'm very interested if the stream becomes garbled, stays garbled and
doesn't return to normal
After I'd replaced the mplayer.exe with your suggested version (
followed by a reboot) the stream run for 30 minutes, garbled and then
stayed garbled, (isn't garbled a weird word when you say it often
enough?)with no signs of recovery. Restarted OK and is still fine after
a further 30 minutes.
Could you try using mplayer directly. This should play Radio 4:
mplayer -vo null -cache 128 -af volume=4:sc,resample=44100:0:1
-playlist http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/media/fmg2.rpm
This should eliminate AlienBBC/SlimServer.
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I take it I need to open a cmd window and put the above string in?
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Seems to play fine at start up. I haven't had to play in DOS since I was
at school! What I didn't do was check the output from the Squeezebox
before I ran mplayer direct. Would calling up mplayer from cmd have
frozen the hardware end of things if it was already being used by the
Squeezebox? I
Just skipped like a stuck record for a few seconds after 8 minutes, but
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Weird. Moving the scroll bar on the cmd window will make the stream skip
and repeat until you stop playing around with it.
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Mplayer in a cmd window is prone to be affected by all sorts of things
mainly scroll bar but something in my screen powersave makes it freeze.
So unless you can leave the PC alone, you can't really trust the test.
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Hi,
I'm new to the forum and have been following this thread with interest
as my wife is very keen to listen to Radio 4 again on the grown up
speakers! I have just tried moving to Slimserver 6.2, alien 0.99 and
the suggested mplayer fix (w/o kill) but I'm still getting the garbled
output within
There is a patched version of Mplayer - it is not official yet. If you
are using XP then you can get a build from below.
http://www.x2systems.com/alienbbc/mplayer.html
The second version has a better but newer less tested fix.
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Any chance of someone building a Mac executable? Pretty please? I still
have the garbled sound and it is definitely the dropped/out-of-sync
packets issue.
It's really annoying, especially if you have someone in the house who
is dedicated to the Archers and gets very stroppy when the sound gets
jonathanbarber Wrote:
Hi
I did infact try both fixes, changing the file through notepad and then
reloading alienbbc (deleted two files covert custom in Slimserver and
plugin folder) extracted new Alien BBc within Slimserver 6.2.
Both these brought the same result that Radio 2 plays
Neil
I can set up the correct CMD window and slimserver directory, how do I
then post the output for Radio 2. Sorry to be so ignorant!
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If you run slim.exe --d_plugins --d_parse --d_remotestream from the
command line you should see a load of trace. Then once it is running
try to play Radio 2 and collect the output by copying from the window.
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Hi
I did infact try both fixes, changing the file through notepad and then
reloading alienbbc (deleted two files covert custom in Slimserver and
plugin folder) extracted new Alien BBc within Slimserver 6.2.
Both these brought the same result that Radio 2 plays introduction and
then cuts to
jonathanbarber Wrote:
Firstly wanted to say a huge thank you for fixing this problem which has
until now taken the shine off my Squuezebox.
I still have the problem on Radio 2 plays introduction and then
silence. I can't edit perl, would this be fixed by downloading the
latest night
Better still - try the new version of AlienBBC if you are using server version
6.2:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=57539#post57539
Sorry - I know I'm a noob around here, but I think I fixed this problem
easily using Triode's advice in an earlier thread about AlienBBC and
I'm still having trouble using Neil's fixed Mplayer in Windows. The SB
just freezes, usually showing 'connecting' on screen, sometimes getting
past that to 'now playing [programme]' but then freezing with no audio.
I then have to power cycle the Squeezebox. I've tried rebooting after
updating
No - it will with the next version of Alien though
I still have the problem on Radio 2 plays introduction and then
silence. I can't edit perl, would this be fixed by downloading the
latest night version of Squuzebox software?
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It doesn't work for me - it just locks up the Squeezebox and I have to
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It appears to have worked for me, another clueless windows user. I have
had live radio 3 and radio 4 playing for about 1 hour each and they
seem ok. Obviously more testing will be useful.
However another related problem. I hope someone can help.
With live radio 2 all I get is the following audio
If you are having a problem getting the new mplayer to work try this:-
Stop Slimserver
rename your existing mplayer
extract the new mplayer to ?:\Program
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
REBOOT your PC
Try a live stream.
This worked for me after a failed first attempt. I
This appears to have been added to the BBC Radio player recently as
well, but only for Radio 2.
The AlienBBC Plugin appears to be playing:-
rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio2/r2online_id.rm which now only gives the
announcement.
It should be playing:-
I've replaced my MPlayer.exe with the alpha version from the link
provided here in the forum and the performance is (so far) faultless.
I'll run it for a few days and report back after a longer trial.
I have the same problem as Maxwl with Radio 2. It plays only the
introduction, and keeps
It's now working for me, after a PC re-boot.
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lordypieman wrote:
I have the same problem as Maxwl with Radio 2. It plays only the
introduction, and keeps repeating it. It is also played at (I'm
guessing) double speed with gaps between each repetition.
I had the same thing on some feeds; the double-speed fix for
slimserver-convert.conf
Re Radio2.
Just to say we are aware of this and are working on a solution for the next version of Alien - it's due to the radio 2 metafile
including two streams - the ident one and then the real stream. By default Alien only plays the first one.
For the moment, if you are happy editing perl
Triode
That seems to have fixed it. Thanks for your help.
Radio 2 is back and no garbled sound (hopefully!).
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lordypieman Wrote:
It plays only the introduction, and keeps repeating it. It is also
played at (I'm guessing) double speed with gaps between each
repetition.Re the double speed, see
http://www.x2systems.com/alienbbc/mplayer.html
Known Problems.
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I'm a bit of a newbie but am happy to try compile a mac version. Can
you send me the inputs I'll have a go?
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I'm a bit of a newbie but am happy to try compile a mac version. Can
you send me the inputs I'll have a go?It is not quite as simple as that. If
you refer to the mplayer site you
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Thanks Neil for making the alpha release available, for someone like me,
who last compiled a program in 1980-something, it's a huge help ;)
It seems to be working a dream at present - I can't begin to tell you
how much I appreciate the efforts you and everyone else has put in to
getting this bug
OK, as I said, I'm a real newbie. Tell me if I'm headed in the right
direction
I changed you ./configure options to enable for macos
I installed gcc 3.3 and make3.8 on the Mac
I downloaded the mplayer-1.0pre7try2 package and unpacked it.
I tried to run the ./configure but got the following
I have made may Windows release avaiable for download, see:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=56344#post56344
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excellent, thanks - I'll run it for a while and let you know how it
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It's still happening (in fact it kicked in sooner than usual, after
abour 3-4 minutes).
Other than putting the new mplayer.exe in the proper slimserver
directory and restarting slimserver, is there something else I have to
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E.2. Binary distribution
MPlayer previously contained source from the OpenDivX project, which
disallows binary redistribution. This code has been removed in version
0.90-pre1 and the remaining file
I too am a clueless Windows user looking for a compiled and patched
version. If anyone could email it to me or post a link, that would be
much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
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Here is a new version of the mplayer patch for anyone that is
interested:
Code:
Index: demux_real.c
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RCS file: /cvsroot/mplayer/main/libmpdemux/demux_real.c,v
retrieving revision 1.72
diff -u
any chance you could post the binary ?
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Neil Sleightholm Wrote:
Here is a new version of the mplayer patch for anyone that is interestedI
would be interested in anyone else's results with this new patch. It
worked for me for most of the day for me but then started going wrong.
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tygar Wrote:
It would be great if the AlienBBC web page could be updated with this
information!Done. I have included a link back to this thread and will update
the
information when I know more.
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It would be great if the AlienBBC web page could be updated with this
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On 30/9/05 at 05:31 -0700, markcaines wrote
...and if anyone has got it working for Mac OS X, I would also really
appreciate some more guidance.
Mark
can't help with listen luve, but it works fine with listen again.
browse the threads if you nrrf info
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Installed AlienBBC (with some difficulty!) a couple of months back and
love it but gutted that I can't listen to the live feeds. Unfortunately
this patch looks a bit complicated for me to enact in my windows set up.
Hopefully a simpler solution will not be long
Thanks for everyone's help on
I to am a Windows (2kSP4) Slimserver/Squeezebox user with the same
AlienBBC problem and looking for the same solution. I'm also not sure
I'm up to recompiling from the C sourcecode.
If anyone gets a Windows version compiled could they post a link to it
here for us to road-test and report back?
...and if anyone has got it working for Mac OS X, I would also really
appreciate some more guidance.
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For Windows keep an eye on this site
http://oss.netfarm.it/mplayer-win32.php. He regularly posts new Windows
versions for the CVS source. I have been told that this patch will be
included in CVS this weekend.
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Is there a Dummy's guide to applying this fix. I'm running FC3 Linux,
have downloaded the latest mplayer cvs, but am completely lost in
applying the fix.
Do I just cut and paste the changes (e.g. overwrite the entire)
debian_real.c file, or should it be inserted somewhere?
If this fix works
Change directory to libmpdemux/
Save the patch file attached to my message above to this directory
run 'patch mplayer_patch.diff'
change to the root mplayer directory and rebuild
Dave
mcknej01 wrote:
Is there a Dummy's guide to applying this fix. I'm running FC3 Linux,
have downloaded the
If anyone wants to apply this patch I would recommend doing it to the
1.0pre7 version rather than the latest one in CVS. With the latest one
I found that mono streams played and double speed unless I used the
-af channel=2 option and also that streams wouldn't end they just
kept repeating the
Thanks also from me. It worked for me too.
Attached is a patch against the latest mplayer CVS, this should apply
more cleanly.
Dave
Patrick Dixon wrote:
bglad Wrote:
great news neil, thanks for pushing this
Thanks from me too.
Index: demux_real.c
I'm not sure how to go about compiling from CVS. Can anyone give me some
basic instructions, or send me a precompiled Windows executable?
It looks like the MPlayer Windows executables are only produced every
few months, so we could be waiting a while before we can download it
from the MPlayer
Good news. A fix for this was posted to the mplayer list today. I have
compiled a Windows version and have been using it today without any
problems. We will have to wait for an official mplayer release but if
you want to compile it yourself here is the change.
Bryan Alton Wrote:
I think have a
great news neil, thanks for pushing this
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great news neil, thanks for pushing this
Thanks from me too.
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Another update:
Tom Playford Wrote:
I've had a look at the ethereal output and I agree, it seems to be the
BBC servers dropping the odd packet. I hear that the BBC have one the
biggest RealServer farms going, so maybe it's not surprising we havn't
seen it from other servers.
If there's
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The following quote is from the mplayer list, hopefully we might get a
solution to this problem soon.
Bryan Alton Wrote:
I think I know what is causing the garbled audio problem. The realaudio
server is dropping packets but only indicates it by jumps in the Data
packet timestamps and
Neil Sleightholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Neil, could you leave URL to thread in mplayer community?Olaf, if you
check back through this thread you
should see a link. Neil
Apols, Neil, for duplicate entry but for reasons I do not understand GMANE
took 4 (!) days over
Neil Sleightholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have reported on the mplayer developers forum and someone appears to
have had some sucess reproducing it but still no fix yet.
Neil, could you leave URL to thread in mplayer community? I am a little
frustrated that I still cannot listen to the
' harddrive
where SS is installed has around 12GB free space. I'm using SS 6.0.x
and SB1 firmware rev39.
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Neil, could you leave URL to thread in mplayer community?Olaf, if you check
back through this thread you should see a link. Neil
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Dan Goodinson Wrote:
Can you describe the sound you get, as I occasionally get something with
might be similar.Dan, your description sounds like the same problem - I think
it sounds
like 2 streams running slightly out of sync. I find it only happens on
the live streams.
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JJP Wrote:
It's annoying (makes me angry!) that the BBC still insists on using
realplayer for audio when they do appear to have adopted a windows
media format for some video. I pay my licence fee for them to force me
to install some bloated spyware realplayer trash.
/rant
I agree.
I have reported on the mplayer developers forum and someone appears to
have had some sucess reproducing it but still no fix yet.
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On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 11:11 -0700, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
If anyone with this problem has time you could try running mplayer
directly to confirm this is the same problem. The following command
line will play the live Radio4 stream:
mplayer -vo null -cache 128
Mark, thanks for confirming this. I think (but I'm only guessing) that
the primary bit rate is what is displayed but realaudio support
dynamically changing the rate on the fly.
I am looking into trying to debug this but at present I'm not getting
much help from the mplayer community.
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Same problem here - XP, SB2s running 15/07/05 nightly, mplayer pre7,
alienBBC 0.98.
Garbling sometimes happens within 2-3 minutes of fast-forwarding the
stream which makes BBC unusable. I now have a sore ear due to
complaints from other household squeezebox user(s).
It's annoying (makes me
JJP,
Not sure you meant fast forwarding - just to clarify, Alien doesn't
support fast forwarding within one stream.
However if you do get the corruption problem pressing Fwd (as long as
you have a playlist of one item) should restart the current stream.
As for the cause of this - yes
If anyone with this problem has time you could try running mplayer
directly to confirm this is the same problem. The following command
line will play the live Radio4 stream:
mplayer -vo null -cache 128
rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra
I find this this will
Triode Wrote:
JJP,
Not sure you meant fast forwarding - just to clarify, Alien doesn't
support fast forwarding within one stream.
Triode - sorry - I meant pressing FWD as a de-garble tactic..
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Neil Sleightholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm afraid this hasn't been resolved. I believe it is an mplayer issue
but haven't had time to try and debug the problem.
Neil
Just to add to the chorus: I have the same issue. This problem is new on
6.0.2/0.97 - did not occur with previous
That is interesting, what version where you using before? I don't
believe this is an AlienBBC problem, I am sure it is a problem with
mplayer and we don't control that. I have posted a bug report on the
mplayer forum and although someone else had the problem no could offer
a solution.
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