Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
Bought an original SB but have now moved on to a Touch - that pushed me into sorting out the artwork, since one could now see it - the sound quality on the Touch is also fabulous - way better than the old SB, although that really worked well too. The whole thing made me (continuously - to this day) really sort out my tagging, but that is as long a process as ripping was in the first place, wo will take years to get absolutely right! Onwards and upwards Logitech - you have a gem here, with a larger market than you appear to think! -- sherington sherington's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Sorry, but I'm not able to do that. When I click on the attachment link (either directly in your message, or by going to the bug and getting to the download link that way), the browser visibly loads something, but then nothing apparently happens. Either I'm a moron and it's just downloading it to some obvious spot where I don't know to look, or it's not able to handle the content somehow. In Android's browser menu there's a Downloads item. You should find it there. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
sherington;671037 Wrote: Bought an original SB but have now moved on to a Touch - that pushed me into sorting out the artwork, since one could now see it - the sound quality on the Touch is also fabulous - way better than the old SB, although that really worked well too. The whole thing made me (continuously - to this day) really sort out my tagging, but that is as long a process as ripping was in the first place, wo will take years to get absolutely right! Onwards and upwards Logitech - you have a gem here, with a larger market than you appear to think! I started with a Duet 3.5 years ago, then bought a boom, a radio and 2x Touch - the orginal Duet box isn't used but I still use the controller. All SB players are great and I listen to so much more music now, I ripped my collection with vortexbox and the tags/artwork are in a good condition, not exactly how I would want all of them but due to time constraints (young kid!) I now just enjoy listening to the music with the occasional tagging session. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
shaboyi;671001 Wrote: Please, please, please replace the Touch, get a good USB dac and enjoy MediaMonkey. You should be happier. Can you explain why this strange piece of advice ? Like a lot of people, I love the Touch hardware, but I am fed up with SBS/LMS. It is a common point of view you will find in a lot of forums, even on this one. Nobody forces you to share this point of view. The Touch is a terrific piece of hardware. It is nice, great for internet streaming. The internal Dac is excellent. It is certainly not now that I got rid of LMS problems that I am going to leave the Touch. Why people like you are having a problem if Squeezebox users can take advantage of those terrific hardware without suffering this weird and unreliable software it comes with ? If you do want to stick with LMS and nothing else, that is perfect. Do it, nobody will force you to do otherwise. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wired Installation: possible ground loop?
Yes, any wire can be influenced by ground loops and EMF. Whether they are present or even audible on your system is another matter. Do you know that you have such issues? Or just being cautious? I use two long 50' runs of very basic RJ5 ethernet through two switches in my home with no such issues, at least not in any way that effects their connected devices including audio. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;670946 Wrote: Sorry not for me ... The clock was wrong, not the same time than the computer. And since I was playing flac files from the USB stick, there is no doubt I was running TinySC, not MySB. May be just starting LMS, without connecting to it, is enough to make the option appear. It seems to me there was something like that to have some Erland's plugins available for install Now that it is in the home menu, I always have it with TinySC, but not before. Unless Touch is actually connected to LMS then LMS cannot communicate anything to the Touch, certainly not give Touch an added menu item Touch by itself is lacking. Plugins are not usable on TinySC, so again unrelated. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] shuffle plays songs more than once
thank you, I was not thinking straight. I use the dutch language and mixed the terms random and shuffle. my problem solved. -- qwerk qwerk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
toby10;671061 Wrote: Unless Touch is actually connected to LMS then LMS cannot communicate anything to the Touch, certainly not give Touch an added menu item Touch by itself is lacking. Plugins are not usable on TinySC, so again unrelated. I am talking about a plugin developed by Erland to suppress any kind of automatic scan. It was especially useful for TinySC and Erland developed it after I asked him for TinySC. I actually used it with TinySC 7.6.1, so guess this plugin is usable on TinySC :) It seems to me than when I tried to install it on TinySC, I couldn't find it, and following Erland's advice, I had to start LMS, and the plugin was magically available ... -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671068 Wrote: LMS necesseraly communicate with TinySC in some basic way, because when both are available, you have the option to switch from TinySC to LMS, so TinySC knows LMS is available No magic there, it is simple TCP/IP discovery, both Touch and LMS (ie your computer) are simply broadcasting there presence, nothing more. Same as your WiFi being seen by your device (SB player, computer, whatever), just because they see each other does not mean they are connected to each other. Or a simple DLNA device seeing a new server on your network. But they are not connected until you manually connect them. And they certainly are not sending configuration changes to each other, if not actually connected to each other. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
toby10;671071 Wrote: No magic there, it is simple TCP/IP discovery, both Touch and LMS (ie your computer) are simply broadcasting there presence, nothing more. Same as your WiFi being seen by your device (SB player, computer, whatever), just because they see each other does not mean they are connected to each other. Or a simple DLNA device seeing a new server on your network. But they are not connected until you manually connect them. And they certainly are not sending configuration changes to each other, if not actually connected to each other. ;) I have some network knowledge, and know how TCP/IP and Wifi works :) Well call it whatever you want and explain it however you like. (the word magically was ironic) I could install the plugin after starting SBS (7.6.1 was SBS). I saw the option Switch to MySB appear after starting LMS 7.7.0 And well, unlike what you said, plugin was actually usable with TinySC. So I guess it is not because you say something is impossible that it is actually impossible :) -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671068 Wrote: I am talking about a plugin developed by Erland to suppress any kind of automatic scan. It was especially useful for TinySC and Erland developed it after I asked him for TinySC. I actually used it with TinySC 7.6.1, so guess this plugin is usable on TinySC :) nicolas75;671072 Wrote: . And well, unlike what you said, plugin was actually usable with TinySC. So I guess it is not because you say something is impossible that it is actually impossible :) Sorry, but you are mistaken. If you are talking about Erlands fix to the TinySC no scan issue/fix, that is NOT a plugin, it is a PATCH installed directly onto the Touch itself via the Patch Installer Applet. Plugins are NOT usable in TinySC. Neither did Erland say anything like you are claiming. All he said was that in order to download the patch your Touch must be connected to either SBS or TinySC. Nowhere does he say nor acknowledge that SBS must be running to install this patch, even if your Touch is NOT connected to SBS. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671072 Wrote: I have some network knowledge, and know how TCP/IP and Wifi works :) Well call it whatever you want and explain it however you like. (the word magically was ironic) Well, if you know how it works then you would not be making the claims you are making. ;) Two network devices simply saying hello, I'm here is very different than two network devices actually sending software code to each other where one of those devices receives an actual GUI change. Two very different things. If network devices communicated in the manner which you are stating then networking in general is in BIG trouble. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
Sorry, what I called a plugin was a patch, and was installed through a plugin. You are right about that. We could go on playing with words, but I don't think it is really funny for anyone. Unlike what you say, the option Swith to MySB was actually NOT available on my Touch when connected to TinySC (I was playing flac files from the USB stick). I had to disconnect the USB stick to switch to MySB. There is no serious reason to say this behavior is impossible, and I actually saw it. You know, the big problem with SBS/LMS on this forum is that it seems you often have to dive into endless discussions with people DENYING FACTS, or explaining that absurd behavior is normal and acceptable. Fortunately, and thanks to MonkeySqueeze, I hope that I won't have to bother with LMS interface features any more, and so, that this kind of discussion is over for me :) -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
Did I understand you correctly, ACC only works with 7.5.5 and below? -- maximus maximus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41211 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671076 Wrote: Sorry, what I called a plugin was a patch, and was installed through a plugin. You are right about that... You know, the big problem with SBS/LMS on this forum is that it seems you often have to dive into endless discussions with people DENYING FACTS, or explaining that absurd behavior is normal and acceptable. I think you mean ... and was NOT installed through a plugin. Then you misunderstand the forums. :) People try to help others, part of that help is explaining the basic architecture of the SB system (hardware software) and share experiences. Denying goes both ways. Like trying to explain to you that a plugin cannot run on TinySC, a fact you denied through several posts? My effort was to try to help you understand the difference so you can garner more use out of the Touch itself and understand what can and cannot be done with the hardware software. My explanation of moving the switch to MySB menu item within TinySC was based on my experience in doing so, the knowledge it is possible, and common sense. If you say it was not present then it wasn't. But as I know it is possible and I know the usual reasons why it may not work (Touch mistakenly on MySB or Touch not updated) it is only common sense to suggest those as potential issues. If your Touch hardware is the one unit that was correctly updated and correctly connected to TinySC yet did not offer this feature, it may well be a unique anomaly. But experience and common sense tell me otherwise, and I cannot give advice for such unique anomalies. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
Hi all I have SB3 wirelessly streaming FLAC and spotify through my retro kit of Denon PMA 250 III amp and Mission 760i speakers. I also have a 50% discount code which is burning a hole in my pocket so could get a touch for £130. My question is, would I notice a significant improvement in sound quality by swapping in the touch to my modest retro kit. The plan might eventually be to upgrade amp and speakers. Code expires on 24th November!! -- wonder boy wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MonkeySqueeze
Gingernut63;670955 Wrote: Go to the MonkeySqueeze addons site Version history and download Version 1.5.0.110814. It was the last version to communicate with the SS or LMS CLI so it may work with TinySC. http://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/browse/item/monkeysqueeze/ Uninstall the present version of MonkeySqueeze (see user guide) before installing V1.5. Make sure you run MediaMonkey in Admin mode before install. Just remember it has reduced functionality and anyway this is a test to see what happens. Let me know what happens please as I do not have access to a Touch. I had a quick try but could not connect. I must say I was too lazy to install Squeezeplay. If I understood correctly Squeezeplay is required for MS 1.5 The notes also say that version 1.5 doesn't work with some linux or NAS distributions, so I am not sure it is ok for Touch internal platform. MonkeySqueeze 2.0 does it perfectly for me. TinySC is not such a big deal since I need a computer to run MediaMonkey. If there are logs somewhere which can explain why I cannot connect to TinySBS, just tell me where they are. Another question : Sound quality is much better with MonkeySqueeze and Touch, than if I go through a USB dac from the PC to the amplifier. The USB dac I tried is not as good as Touch's one. But if I understand correctly, with MonkeySqueeze, you just tell LMS what to play, and the sound quality is controlled by LMS setup and the Touch. That means it is much better than to have to deal with OS audio settings and USB dac driver. For example MediaMonkey equalizer doesn't affect the Touch playback. So I guess I don't loose any sound quality, and gains the much better MediaMonkey library management and interface. Is that correct ? One thing that prevented me to try MonkeySqueeze sooner is that I believed I would run into OS specific sound quality problem. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89046 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Pandora
After the last upgrade I've lost my ability to play Pandora. Under My Apps is App Gallery. Any thoughts? Remote won't help either. -- kenham kenham's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30496 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91720 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
You should keep the SB3 and give me the 50% code!! -- Mushroom_3 Mushroom_3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13434 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
maximus;671078 Wrote: Did I understand you correctly, ACC only works with 7.5.5 and below? Correct. -- Roger66 SB Touch SB Boom Win XP Pro SP3 Thinkpad X60s Roger66's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
keep the SB3 -and- get a Touch :) , use the SB3 in another room -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
Is there any place where you may also wish to have sound, such as bedroom? If so, consider getting the Touch for your main system. Then connect the SB3 to a pair of self-powered speakers (such as Audioengine A2, or whatever your budget permits) in another room. Or if you have old amp and speakers lying around use that instead. SBs really do prefer to live in packs. To my ears on my mid-fi system, the analog outs of the Touch are noticeably superior to the SB3's. Not night vs day, but noticeable. It's hard for me to say if it would be significant on your system / room / ears. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
Buy it, decide later whether to keep it or not! Best case is you try it and agree to the anticipated upgrade in SQ. Worse case is you unload it on eBay for what you paid for it, likely even make a buck. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pandora
Can you play other Apps? Sure your MySB account info is correctly entered onto your LMS after update? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91720 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
toby10;671081 Wrote: Then you misunderstand the forums. :) People try to help others, part of that help is explaining the basic architecture of the SB system (hardware software) and share experiences. About what is useful and really helps ... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=669304postcount=26 -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] .cue files not being handled by 7.7
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17769 Thanks to you and chill for your help with this. - Ken On 11/17/11 11:41 PM, Mnyb wrote: kjg;671028 Wrote: On 11/17/11 10:42 PM, Mnyb wrote: And you are browsing it by going *artist* or *album* menu NOT via music folder :-/ Then it looks like yet another bug . I'm using the Artist / Album route, not Music Folder. If I navigate using the Music Folder, I can see the flac and cue files, but they're not links and I can't click on them. I do get the add to favorites icon, and can add the cue file to the Favorites list. Under that I'm able to click the link, but I end up with this error: There was an error loading the remote feed for : (Cannot request non-HTTP URL file:///Volumes/Data%202/Music/Music%20For%20Server/FLAC/Alison%20Krauss%20+%20Union%20Station/Alison%20Krauss%20+%20Union%20Station%20Live%20(Disc%201%20of%202)/Alison%20Krauss%20And%20Union%20Station%20-%20Live%20(Disc%201%20of%202).cue) I should pass all this info along to Logitech as a bug. All this seems somewhat worse than the bug you posted. - Ken yes this is worse file bug. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wired Installation: possible ground loop?
toby10;671059 Wrote: Yes, any wire can be influenced by ground loops and EMF. Whether they are present or even audible on your system is another matter. Do you know that you have such issues? Or just being cautious? I use two long 50' runs of very basic RJ5 ethernet through two switches in my home with no such issues, at least not in any way that effects their connected devices including audio. PSB (Pre Squeezebox) I ran cable over the same route from a DAC in the computer room to the stereo in the living room. I had to resort to an optical cable between the computer and the DAC, instead of the USB, in order to knock out 60 Hz of chocolatey badness. -- Lewis Moon Lewis Moon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671105 Wrote: About what is useful and really helps ... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=669304postcount=26 Well perhaps after you read Mnyb's other 7,600+ forum posts you will come to a different conclusion. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
No problems for me either. I've been running squeezecentre in all its various incarnations from 7.3 to 7.7 and never had a problem on my Windows 2003 R2 Small Business Server. The server is also running exchange and sharepoint and copes admirably. -- indifference_engine 1xRadio, 2xReceiver, 2xController, 1xSB3, 2xSqueezeSlave, SBS 7.5.3 Inventor of SqueezeIR applet for the Controller indifference_engine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20698 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!
I had similar situation happen to me. bought what I thought was a fully functional squeezebox classic on ebay and turns out to be a demo model (non-functional). seller has offered to refund me my $, but he wants me to send him back the unit. as I don't want anyone else to fall prey to this, what should I do? thanks Bill -- barkeater barkeater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51460 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] no pandora with 6.5.4
i cant connect to sq ctr...and pandora is no longer on my apps list...do i need to reinstall 6.5.4? -- citabria327 citabria327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91722 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] no pandora with 6.5.4
Which player are you trying to connect? Tried rebooting player, router, SBS 6.5.4, computer? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91722 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
Now trying this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86169highlight=%22ethernet+appears+disconnected%22 When SB3 logs into network, instead of taking the ip from the dhcp server, I created a static ip for it that is outside of the dhcp scope. Will report back results. -- jojopuppyfish jojopuppyfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
toby10;671110 Wrote: Well perhaps after you read Mnyb's other 7,600+ forum posts you will come to a different conclusion. ;) I read a lot of them as well as yours. It confirms my conclusion about what's helpful or not, and not mistake quantity vs quality. To be honest, I knew that before, since I have been developing softwares way more complicated than LMS for quite a lot of time (slimdevices was not even existing ... :) ) -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] no pandora with 6.5.4
toby10;671118 Wrote: Which player are you trying to connect? Tried rebooting player, router, SBS 6.5.4, computer? i have 4 classics ver 2 or 3, i think...i rebooted the router...on my desktop, sb doesn't have pandora in apps anymore..not sure how to reboot the player, tho thanks mike -- citabria327 citabria327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91722 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671120 Wrote: I read a lot of them as well as yours. It confirms my conclusion about what's helpful or not, and not mistake quantity vs quality. To be honest, I knew that before, since I have been developing softwares way more complicated than LMS for quite a lot of time (slimdevices was not even existing ... :) ) aha! Another data point for my anecdotal conjecture I've reported before that posters that profess to have extensive networking or software development expertise sometimes report struggling the most with SB software and/or hardware. ;-) p.s. In my opinion, mnyb and Toby10 are certainly in the top 10 (if not top 5) most helpful people on this forum in terms of providing clear, useful advice to posters. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
Everyone I have come across has been superb here. I walked in her totally blind to the system and Garym has been patient and a wealth of information. Now I just have a bad case of cataracts lol. garym;671124 Wrote: aha! Another data point for my anecdotal conjecture I've reported before that posters that profess to have extensive networking or software development expertise sometimes report struggling the most with SB software and/or hardware. ;-) p.s. In my opinion, mnyb and Toby10 are certainly in the top 10 (if not top 5) most helpful people on this forum in terms of providing clear, useful advice to posters. -- artintampa artintampa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49578 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
garym;671124 Wrote: aha! Another data point for my anecdotal conjecture I've reported before that posters that profess to have extensive networking or software development expertise sometimes report struggling the most with SB software and/or hardware. ;-) p.s. In my opinion, mnyb and Toby10 are certainly in the top 10 (if not top 5) most helpful people on this forum in terms of providing clear, useful advice to posters. You know I have no problem with Squeezeboxes and networking, but I have problems to accept the poor user interface and behavior. Funny that you and them seems to have very few problems with SBS/LMS, and claim everywhere it is fantastic. That's probably why you can hardly understand why people have problems, and what is needed to avoid them having problems in the first place. So you keep spending your time giving advices and tricks, for problems which should simply not exist at all. It would be far more effective to push Logitech and developers to make problems disappear. (asking weird NAS platform, or funny plugins, instead of getting decent library management push them the other way). That's what I have always been doing for what I develop, and what I ask from those who work with me. If you spend so much time helping people, it is because they have a lot of problems, and if they have a lot of problems, it is because the software is not good. Of course it is a lot more fun (and far easier) to spend time helping a lot people and show how good and helpful you are. But it is far more effective to point out what should be corrected (instead of saying everything is great), so that people do not need you at all. That's the difference between geeks having fun, and professionals who make a living from what they develop. I started yesterday to really use MediaMonkey, because I have installed MonkeySqueeze. Honestly, I don't know why I waited so much, and how I could accept the poor library management of LMS. I have absolutely no doubt that without serious management from Logitech CEO and executives to change the geek state of mind which is behind LMS, this software is cold dead. Customers don't care how good and helpful you are. They demand a software good enough so they don't need you at all. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
Tried this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88684highlight=avast Avast anti-virus software might be affecting sb3. Tried the following: In your touch, go to settings, advanced, diagnostics and write down the two TCP ports used by the touch to access your squeezebox server. Mine were 3483 and 9000. Open avast ver 6, go to settings, troubleshooting, open tab redirect settings. In the HTTP ports box, you will see some other port numbers in there. Add your two ports obtained from your touch. Click ok. Restart you computer. I was able to only find port 9000 on my sb3, but I added 3483 to it as well. Will report results. -- jojopuppyfish jojopuppyfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
I am not an expert on computers, LMS or anything. From what I gather, it seems like a system that is semi-raw/rough on the edges. This has some disadvantages in that it does require a learning curve which some people are unwilling go through. I do wish the layout was more more user-friendly. On the other hand, because it is such an open system, it allows the true geeks to flourish and make it their own. After all, Logietch is geeky in itself, right? If it were a rigid, user friendly system. I think it would have the potential of become sterile. A happy medium would be ideal. Dont throw pies at me.. I did point out I am no computer expert etc etc. It just seems my perspective. My son is into Linux and he seems to prefer these type of systems. -- artintampa artintampa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49578 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!
If the seller refunds the money, it's only fair that you return the unit. To help prevent this happening to someone else, (a) file a complaint with eBay, and (b) give the seller negative feedback, explaining the deception. The seller may not have been aware it was a non-functional demo -- some people buy-and-resell tons of stuff they think will net them a few bucks, without really carefully inspecting the item. The seller may end up taking a loss on this one. And that's also fair if they didn't do their homework. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
artintampa;671132 Wrote: I am not an expert on computers, LMS or anything. From what I gather, it seems like a system that is semi-raw/rough on the edges. This has some disadvantages in that it does require a learning curve which some people are unwilling go through. I do wish the layout was more more user-friendly. On the other hand, because it is such an open system, it allows the true geeks to flourish and make it their own. After all, Logietch is geeky in itself, right? If it were a rigid, user friendly system. I think it would have the potential of become sterile. A happy medium would be ideal. Dont throw pies at me.. I did point out I am no computer expert etc etc. It just seems my perspective. My son is into Linux and he seems to prefer these type of systems. Geeks love to say that, but nothing could be more wrong. A good software is flexible as well as user friendly. As far as I can tell, out of 10 developers, only 1 or 2 is really good (if you are lucky) The real thing is that developing good user interface is not fun, it is tedious, it requires WORK. Above all, it requires you understand customers expectations, something they are usually totally unable to do. Well I shouldn't complain too much about that. When you are good at that nowadays, it is really easy to be very successfull :) -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671129 Wrote: You know I have no problem with Squeezeboxes and networking, but I have problems to accept the poor user interface and behavior.. I'd add poor documentation to that as well. This is an area that has always been lacking with these devices. :( -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
toby10;671139 Wrote: I'd add poor documentation to that as well. This is an area that has always been lacking with these devices. :( That's true, but I'd add another thing developers usually don't like. The RTFM thing is stupid. When a user interface is good and clear, you should almost never have to read the documentation ... When I try a new software I always start to run it without reading the doc. If I find it difficult to understand without the doc, I know it is not for non tech people. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671129 Wrote: . Of course it is a lot more fun (and far easier) to spend time helping a lot people and show how good and helpful you are. But it is far more effective to point out what should be corrected (instead of saying everything is great), so that people do not need you at all. I think if you look at the top posters in here compared to the top bug/enhancement contributors, they are likely the very same people. ;) The bug/enhancement section gets real issues data directly to the actual (sadly few) developers. Whereas in here it's almost exclusively fellow SB users. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671140 Wrote: ... When I try a new software I always start to run it without reading the doc. . We're guys! Who reads manuals! :) But there are indeed glaring omissions in their minimal docs manuals. A quick example: Right out of the box for initial setup on both the SB3 Boom if you enter an incorrect character (MySB info, SSID, encryption) there is no mention of how to correct this. As expected, the fix is simple, but not documented. That's the kind of stuff I am referring too, especially if you want the SB to be more main stream for the avg user. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] no pandora with 6.5.4
citabria327;671121 Wrote: i have 4 classics ver 2 or 3, i think...i rebooted the router...on my desktop, sb doesn't have pandora in apps anymore..not sure how to reboot the player, tho thanks mike Just unplug the players, plug them back in, that reboots them. Again, other Apps present and play? You can try to delete your Pandora App on the www.MySqueezeBox.com web UI, then reinstall it, add back in your Pandora account info, sometimes that works. But I suspect SBS is not seeing MySB.com, which is why it would help to know about other Apps. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91722 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
toby10;671143 Wrote: I think if you look at the top posters in here compared to the top bug/enhancement contributors, they are likely the very same people. ;) The bug/enhancement section gets real issues data directly to the actual (sadly few) developers. Whereas in here it's almost exclusively fellow SB users. Don't misinterpret me,I know the dev resources for LMS is a joke, compare to all they have to do. Nobody should put the blame on the 2 of them (I guess Andrew and Michael are the only ones left) But top posters don't enter the right bugs ... The problem is that those top posters expectations are everything but Logitech target market expectations. In my opinion, allowing to suppress any scan is the top priority (most problems are scanning problems). If I were in charge of that today, given the current situation, I would forget about reinventing the wheel. LMS cannot compete anyhow with most media servers available today. Windows is the main platform, and MediaMonkey (only available on Windows) is years ahead of LMS, with community, plugins, etc ... Number one priority would be to improve as much as possible MonkeySqueeze. For those who want to stay on Linux and care a lot about sync, etc ..., well they still have LMS and seem happy with it. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!
aubuti, Yeah, I just didn't want the thing to go back out and potentially screw someone else. He probably didn't know but who knows. thanks for the reply. Once I get a working unit I am sure I'll be back with a more relevant question on its operation. :) Happy Thanksgiving! -- barkeater barkeater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51460 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!
There was some guy here wanting to buy a case for a SB3. You may want to find his post, he may pay more than you did. -- ghostrider ghostrider's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18959 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
Transporter, Boom and Controller. Best home entertainment dollars I've ever spent! Been lucky that I haven't encountered any major software problems that I haven't caused. -- ghostrider ghostrider's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18959 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
I finally fixed this. Adding the port setting to Avast did not fix the issue. However, once I turned off the Avast virus software, it finally worked. I did, turn off Avast for 10 minutes, then turn back on. For 10 minutes it worked great. I even timed it on my stop watch. As soon as the 11th minute it, it crashed again. Now I need to find out the exact settings in Avast to change. -- jojopuppyfish jojopuppyfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671129 Wrote: You know I have no problem with Squeezeboxes and networking, but I have problems to accept the poor user interface and behavior. Funny that you and them seems to have very few problems with SBS/LMS, and claim everywhere it is fantastic. That's probably why you can hardly understand why people have problems, and what is needed to avoid them having problems in the first place. So you keep spending your time giving advices and tricks, for problems which should simply not exist at all. It would be far more effective to push Logitech and developers to make problems disappear. (asking weird NAS platform, or funny plugins, instead of getting decent library management push them the other way). That's what I have always been doing for what I develop, and what I ask from those who work with me. If you spend so much time helping people, it is because they have a lot of problems, and if they have a lot of problems, it is because the software is not good. Of course it is a lot more fun (and far easier) to spend time helping a lot people and show how good and helpful you are. But it is far more effective to point out what should be corrected (instead of saying everything is great), so that people do not need you at all. That's the difference between geeks having fun, and professionals who make a living from what they develop. I am quite certain none of you is a professional software manager (and a good professional software manager has to be an excellent software developer) I started yesterday to really use MediaMonkey, because I have installed MonkeySqueeze. Honestly, I don't know why I waited so much, and how I could accept the poor library management of LMS. I have absolutely no doubt that without serious management from Logitech CEO and executives to change the geek state of mind which is behind LMS, this software is cold dead. Customers don't care how good and helpful you are. They demand a software good enough so they don't need you at all. I really have to disagree with your primary points here. First I agree with you that SbS and LMS are quite poor interfaces relative to many other interfaces I've used for music management. Even itunes is a better interface in my opinion. And I've used a lot of interfaces (itunes, winamp, foobar2000 (my favorite, once I figured it out)). Although once I switched to ipeng or squeezepad I find the interface there very user friendly and I rarely even look at the webGUI for SbS or LMS. I've even used mediamonkey/monkeysqueeze and liked it as well. As an interface to SbS I recall having lots of issues because of synching different players, gapless, delays between tracks, etc. Perhaps all that has been solved in newer versions. But for your other points, this forum IS FOR USERS HELPING OTHER USERS. It is NOT the forum for asking logitech to fix or change anything. There are forums and bugzilla for that. I'm not a big bug/enhancement poster, but I've certainly added my share of bug requests (and voted on others) and added enhancement requests. That is the appropriate forum for trying to improve things. In terms of communicating your opinions, etc. to logitech as a company there are two OFFICIAL forums that are read by logitech employees. These are at: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/bd-p/squeezeboxplayers http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/bd-p/mysqueezebox Just because users here try to help other users navigate some of the odd things that pop up with the software or hardware doesn't mean they are fanboys and think SbS and LMS are simply perfect. My reading of this forum over the years suggests a very different interpretation. I'd personally switch to a different platform in a heartbeat if it was easier to use and did everything I wanted. My investment in SB hardware is extensive, but frankly trivial in the scheme of things, at least for me. I've had minor issues with SB stuff over the years, but generally everything just works. And my files are tagged properly, work in itunes, foobar, winamp, etc. I shouldn't feel guilty because somehow I have a robust network that causes no issues, my library seems to work well, and SbS and LMS are not causing me any issues. Most things have frankly been plug and play for me. Am I just lucky. Maybe so. I certainly have no expertise in networking or software other than just being a user. And I can program a DVR to record a show on TV. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
Started with SB2 and begged on this forum for a Boom-like Squeezebox I could use outside and move around the house. Surprise! Got invited to beta test the Boom after participating here for several years! Bought a Duet at some point through a great deal on eBay, and also beta tested Radio and Touch. I still have them all connected and love them all! My favorites are the Boom and Radio since I like the non-clutter of extra wires and they sound great. -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio | 1 Touch | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Logitech Media Server 7.7.1 | iPod Touch iPad w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) | 'Rhapsody' (http://www.rhapsody.com/members/mesue) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
ghostrider;671155 Wrote: Best home entertainment dollars I've ever spent! Been lucky that I haven't encountered any major software problems that I haven't caused. My sentiments exactly. I started out with the SB3 when it was still Slim Devices. I got one at first. Not long after, I got a second. Then I got the Duet not too long after it came out and added another receiver. Then was the Boom. Eventually I ended up with 4 of those. The first 2 I picked up for less than 1/2 price at Circuit City when they went out of business. Finally, I bought a Touch. All of them get used on a regular basis - myself and my family really enjoy our music. The advent of iOS and Andriod controlling apps has really enhaced the experience. So yes, thank you Slim Devices...and also Logitech for bringing the squeezebox into standard retail channels and widening the exposure of the product line. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums, 515 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
garym;671158 Wrote: this forum IS FOR USERS HELPING OTHER USERS. It is NOT the forum for asking logitech to fix or change anything. That's the usual fanboy complaint when users are not happy and complain on those forums. I totally disagree. In my opinion, on slimdevices forums, people are talking about slimdevices (now Logitech) products and softwares. They can tell if they are happy, unhappy, why, what they would like, what they don't like, share their feelings or expectations. Talk about Squeezeboxes competition. Logitech developers sometimes post here, so it is not stupid to tell what you would like ... You can even ask for help if you want, and help others if you can !!! And I certainly forget a lot. May I point out that the title of this forum section is General Discussion ... :) I know english is not my native language, but I think I roughly understand the meaning of those words. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
My intitial reason for buying squeezbox products is that the 'duet' was relatively inexpensive. I was always very disatisfied with the sound. The duet started having issues (many issues) that simply became more frustrating than it was worth. I started to do research on an alternative. I considered the Marantz but found it very limited in it's functions. The high end audio magazines seem to give the Transporter rave reviews. I've always wanted to build a music library but wasnt about to spend that kind of effort if the duet was my only option. When I got the transporter running using Pandora (knowing it wasnt a great quality music source), I was intrigued enough to pursue using the server as my cd orginzier and now has become my main source of music. I honestly didnt anticipate it to be so involved but every step of the way has left me with a huge smile. I now see a stereo that was used on occassion become the center of entertainment during the weekend again and weeknights when time permits. Because of my extra activities, besides work, I find my time to be very limited and usually run out of gas by the end of the day. You guys(special thanks to Garym) have made me happy to have made this purchase which by now I would have questioned. I hope I didnt derail the discussion too much. -- artintampa artintampa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49578 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
artintampa;671173 Wrote: I hope I didnt derail the discussion too much. Since you are the original poster, I guess we are (may be especially me) the ones who derailed the discussion :) -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] no pandora with 6.5.4
toby10;671148 Wrote: Just unplug the players, plug them back in, that reboots them. Again, other Apps present and play? You can try to delete your Pandora App on the www.MySqueezeBox.com web UI, then reinstall it, add back in your Pandora account info, sometimes that works. But I suspect SBS is not seeing MySB.com, which is why it would help to know about other Apps. ;) ok...thanks i'll chk when i get home...the concert archive app was working, that much i know -- citabria327 citabria327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91722 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671129 Wrote: It would be far more effective to push Logitech and developers to make problems disappear. (asking weird NAS platform, or funny plugins, instead of getting decent library management push them the other way). That's what I have always been doing for what I develop, and what I ask from those who work with me. If you spend so much time helping people, it is because they have a lot of problems, and if they have a lot of problems, it is because the software is not good. Of course it is a lot more fun (and far easier) to spend time helping a lot people and show how good and helpful you are. But it is far more effective to point out what should be corrected (instead of saying everything is great), so that people do not need you at all. That's the difference between geeks having fun, and professionals who make a living from what they develop. I am quite certain none of you is a professional software manager (and a good professional software manager has to be an excellent software developer) I started yesterday to really use MediaMonkey, because I have installed MonkeySqueeze. Honestly, I don't know why I waited so much, and how I could accept the poor library management of LMS. I have absolutely no doubt that without serious management from Logitech CEO and executives to change the geek state of mind which is behind LMS, this software is cold dead. Customers don't care how good and helpful you are. They demand a software good enough so they don't need you at all. Why not :) but you cant really tell logitech in this forum it's end user to end user with semi official participation of 2 of the devs on occasions . and not the official forum , no manager or any other person with influence ever reads these forums? (Supose we are here because no one localized the server and binned it yet, or maybe it is hidden behind Andys paperbasket). It is known to us that there is barely a skeleton crew left they can barely maintain status quo , so kicking at the devs for not living in this world or similar snide remarks does not help . The 2,5 devs we see here is most likely all there is ? May I suggests the official forum it is visited by the likevise understaffed support people (and sadly ignorant so folks come here for amateur support as you have noticed ). http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox/ct-p/squeezebox It's excellent for rants, and has greater probability to reach management levels Nobody denies that the software is lacking ? but it's getting old quick we know. You noticed the general consensus on the tiny server don't use it consider another solution imo you don't get much out of it. Even if we have very different view on what the software should be, lets face it it's actually going nowhere right now in either direction (there is no direction). My pow is that the server is a good foundation to controll and stream to all players , but my favored UI is also third party . I use mostly iPeng or SqueezePad . Library management works for me I mostly add files to growing library it is not in constant flux (then I would have problem ) kind of neat library like a collection if you get it, visitors stuff simply gets added to it. They where once a lot of people and the development was faster and new players emerged to keep up the interest, and new services. The known agenda now is bugfixes and better MOG app and then nothing ? So is there something wrong with helping each other and make good use of what there is instead of just ranting. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
The problem is resolved all the rest of the information from that point on has been very informational which is something that in this topic I could surely use! I find myself reading just to see if I catch anything through osmosis lol nicolas75;671175 Wrote: Since you are the original poster, I guess we are (may be especially me) the ones who derailed the discussion :) -- artintampa artintampa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49578 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671172 Wrote: That's the usual fanboy complaint when users are not happy and complain on those forums. I totally disagree. In my opinion, on slimdevices forums, people are talking about slimdevices (now Logitech) products and softwares. They can tell if they are happy, unhappy, why, what they would like, what they don't like, share their feelings or expectations. Talk about Squeezeboxes competition. Logitech developers sometimes post here, so it is not stupid to tell what you would like ... You can even ask for help if you want, and help others if you can !!! And I certainly forget a lot. May I point out that the title of this forum section is General Discussion ... :) I know english is not my native language, but I think I roughly understand the meaning of those words. You're wrong. I don't know how much clearer I can make it. I gave you the links to the OFFICIAL logitech squeezebox forums. They are different. The forums we are posting in now are the old slimdevices forums that logitech was nice enough to leave open for users to talk with other users. And yes a few developers hang out here to deal with beta issues etc. But even they will tell you in posts that if you really want them to look at anything, you MUST post a bug or enhancement request. Seems crystal clear to me. And yes, this is general discussion and you can post anything you want. It's a public forum. But if you are in fact serious about trying to help improve SbS/LMS you should be using the other approaches I mentioned. If you simply want to call into question the good motives of the helpful users that post here and whine about what you don't like about the software without any possibility of helping IMPROVE the software, then keep posting here. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
Mnyb;671180 Wrote: So is there something wrong with helping each other and make good use of what there is instead of just ranting. There is nothing wrong in helping each other. There is something wrong saying no other discussion should be allowed (Garym words, not yours ...) I experienced other forums about others products where everybody was helping each others, and saying the products were excellent. In the end (the product was not bad, but nothing excellent either), I found out that it was REALLY forbidden to rant about the product, but that this was never said anywhere ... :) A right place is the one where you can when you are satisfied and rant when you are not. If you check about MonkeySqueeze on this forum, you will see I am not exactly ranting about it. I doubt I would have found about MonkeySqueeze, looking on Logitech official forum, instead of ranting here. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
garym;671182 Wrote: You're wrong. I don't know how much clearer I can make it. I gave you the links to the OFFICIAL logitech squeezebox forums. They are different. The forums we are posting in now are the old slimdevices forums that logitech was nice enough to leave open for users to talk with other users. And yes a few developers hang out here to deal with beta issues etc. But even they will tell you in posts that if you really want them to look at anything, you MUST post a bug or enhancement request. Seems crystal clear to me. And yes, this is general discussion and you can post anything you want. It's a public forum. But if you are in fact serious about trying to help improve SbS/LMS you should be using the other approaches I mentioned. If you simply want to call into question the good motives of the helpful users that post here and whine about what you don't like about the software without any possibility of helping IMPROVE the software, then keep posting here. I don't know if I am wrong but I know we totally disagree :) I do consider, and explained it elsewhere, that it is complaining that makes a product improve. Professionally, complaining customers make me improve products. Fanboys certainly not. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
garym;671182 Wrote: I gave you the links to the OFFICIAL logitech squeezebox forums. Guess what ? I knew them and I have already posted there :) -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671183 Wrote: There is nothing wrong in helping each other. There is something wrong saying no other discussion should be allowed (Garym words, not yours ...) I've NEVER said that a person couldn't discuss anything they wanted on these forums. You are the one that attack others for helping solve problems with the existing software rather than demanding that the software be improved. You obviously have a chip on your shoulder about something so nothing I or anyone else has to say can remove that. So how about you're right and we're all wrong. Happy now. Good. Have a good day. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
garym;671186 Wrote: I've NEVER said that a person couldn't discuss anything they wanted on these forums. You are the one that attack others for helping solve problems with the existing software rather than demanding that the software be improved. You obviously have a chip on your shoulder about something so nothing I or anyone else has to say can remove that. So how about you're right and we're all wrong. Happy now. Good. Have a good day. Well I suggest you cool down and take it easy. You replied to me this forum IS FOR USERS HELPING OTHER USERS. It is NOT the forum for asking logitech to fix or change anything. The fact is I understood you consider I should not be allowed to rant here. I disagree, No big deal ... I do consider a useful forum is the one where you find all opinions, good ones and bad ones. So I think it is useful information to express bad opinions. If I had found all opinions for the forum and product I talked about above, I would have saved time and money ... Now have a good day. Where I live, I will rather have a good night :) -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
JRiver fixed it in a beta release that is not public yet! Do you know if Replay Gain data in MC is used for SB playback. The tracks I have tried so far is played significantly louder than normal on my SB players. I also noticed that the progress bar in MC is not following the progress of the SB playback (not a big deal; I just wanted to know if this is a known issue). And the playlist/single track sent from MC to SBS is repeated on my SB players (no, repeat in SBS is turned off). Thanks again guys! -- vagskal 2 x SB3 (wired), Receiver (wired), Boom (wireless), Controller, iPeng on iPhone 4 iPad, muso on remote computer running Win 7 64-bit | 7.6.2 (r33593) on Win XP vagskal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671191 Wrote: Well I suggest you cool down and take it easy. You replied to me this forum IS FOR USERS HELPING OTHER USERS. It is NOT the forum for asking logitech to fix or change anything. The fact is I understood you consider I should not be allowed to rant here. I disagree, No big deal ... I do consider a useful forum is the one where you find all opinions, good ones and bad ones. So I think it is useful information to express bad opinions. If I had found all opinions for the forum and product I talked about above, I would have saved time and money ... Now have a good day. Where I live, I will rather have a good night :) You're right. Having my words being taken completely out of context is bothersome. But I'll assume it was simply a mistake on your part because english is not your first language. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MonkeySqueeze
nicolas75;671089 Wrote: Another question : Sound quality is much better with MonkeySqueeze and Touch, than if I go through a USB dac from the PC to the amplifier. The USB dac I tried is not as good as Touch's one. But if I understand correctly, with MonkeySqueeze, you just tell LMS what to play, and the sound quality is controlled by LMS setup and the Touch. That means it is much better than to have to deal with OS audio settings and USB dac driver. For example MediaMonkey equalizer doesn't affect the Touch playback. So I guess I don't loose any sound quality, and gains the much better MediaMonkey library management and interface. Is that correct ? One thing that prevented me to try MonkeySqueeze sooner is that I believed I would run into OS specific sound quality problem. Yes that is correct. The Squeezebox devices are playing music direct from the source so to speak, the music library. MediaMonkey via MonkeySqueeze is just giving the address, it's not streaming. This applies to LMS on a PC or NAS. That is the advantage of Squeezebox hardware, good quality DAC. From what I've read, most USB DACs don't work as well as expected. I personally use a high end sound card which I find acceptable, but purists will probably not be impressed. If using LMS on a PC and it's not linked to a library but an empty folder, it will play the music MM/MS tells it to. It also keeps the address information and you will gradually see the same music appear in the LMS My Music database. You can select and play this music independently of MM/MS. If you do a rescan of the music library (empty folder) it will wipe this information. Yes modifying the the music which plays in MediaMonkey using crossfade, remove silence etc... has no affect on the music in LMS. That is why you need to disable those functions in MM when using V2.0.0 as they will affect the buffering/lag issue. Not important in current Beta with playlist sync. Regarding V1.5 you only need SqueezePlay if you wish to play music on a PC in-sync with Squeezebox system. In other words V1.5 works the same as V2.0 except it communicates via the CLI (9090)instead of the HTTP port (9000). I'll have to get back to you regarding the logging. -- Gingernut63 Gingernut63 MonkeySqueeze - Squeezing music into your life! http://twitter.com/#!/MonkeySqueeze1 MonkeySqueeze Support: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=59515 MonkeySqueeze Development: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=59907 Squeezebox Boom - SqueezePlay - Squeeze Player - MediaMonkey - MonkeyTunes Gingernut63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89046 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
vagskal;671193 Wrote: JRiver fixed it in a beta release that is not public yet! Do you know if Replay Gain data in MC is used for SB playback. The tracks I have tried so far is played significantly louder than normal on my SB players. I also noticed that the progress bar in MC is not following the progress of the SB playback (not a big deal; I just wanted to know if this is a known issue). And the playlist/single track sent from MC to SBS is repeated on my SB players (no, repeat in SBS is turned off). Thanks again guys! I don't believe that RG values are applied. For DNLA, MC's DSP Studio is not used, and I don't think they are applied by SB when the FLAC is streamed. For the progress bar, be sure to select the SB zone under Playing Now in SB. Each zone has its own playlist, and controls/status updates follow the selected zone. The new Overview mode will make this easier to see. Just Show the SB zone, and click the zone to switch status updates to that zone. Repeat settings are set on MC, not SB, in this usage. Select the SB zone to control Repeat settings. Glad this is working for you. What an unfortunate coincidence that it happened to break in the build just after I indicated it was working! -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
vagskal;671193 Wrote: JRiver fixed it in a beta release that is not public yet!I am delighted to hear this! vagskal;671193 Wrote: Do you know if Replay Gain data in MC is used for SB playback. The tracks I have tried so far is played significantly louder than normal on my SB players.If JRMC is delivering a transcoded stream, then the replay gain data is almost certainly not included in the stream. On the other hand if JRMC is delivering a native stream (e.g. a native MP3 file) then the embedded meta data will still be there. But I don't know whether SBS is able to parse or use the replay gain settings from embedded meta data in on-the-fly streams. I suspect it is not... vagskal;671193 Wrote: I also noticed that the progress bar in MC is not following the progress of the SB playback (not a big deal; I just wanted to know if this is a known issue).I am using JRMC v16 and the position info is updated just fine when streaming (say) a wav file as pcm to a Squeezeplayer. Therefore given the past history on this thread, you can perhaps understand my reluctance to rush in and try to fix a problem in Whitebear that might finally turn out to be due to some bug in a beta version of JRMC. But anyway please tell me what kind of files are you streaming, and in what format? vagskal;671193 Wrote: And the playlist/single track sent from MC to SBS is repeated on my SB players (no, repeat in SBS is turned off)On JRMC v16 this also works fine. (Same comment as above). Obviously too, even if repeat is turned off in SBS, if it is on in JRMC, the track will be repeated anyway... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
MrC;671203 Wrote: Repeat settings are set on MC, not SB, in this usage.Not 100% true. - If repeat is on in JRMC, then JRMC repeatedly sends the play this track command to the player. - If repeat is off in JRMC, then JRMC sends one single play this track command, but if repeat is on in SBS, then SBS will itself repeat that track thereafter... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
Uninstalled avast. Installed Microsoft Security Essentials Added the following files to exclude MYI MYD Still getting problems. DOn't have problems when virus software is turned off, however. -- jojopuppyfish jojopuppyfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
The Touch has better analog audio, but be aware of what you lose when you switch from SB3 to Touch. Some very useful (if you are into heavy customization) plugins don't work anymore, such as IR Blaster and KidsPlay. -- mbg mbg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
Good point. Also, at greater distances the SB3's VFD screen is much easier to read than the Touch's LCD screen. Actual distance depends on your eyes, lighting, angle, etc, but in general it's hard for most people to read the Touch's screen beyond 3m / 10 feet. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
Buy the Touch, sell the SB3 on eBay. -- Percival Sweetwater Percival Sweetwater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep SB3 or get touch...please help me decide!!
aubuti;671239 Wrote: Good point. Also, at greater distances the SB3's VFD screen is much easier to read than the Touch's LCD screen. Actual distance depends on your eyes, lighting, angle, etc, but in general it's hard for most people to read the Touch's screen beyond 3m / 10 feet. Yeah, I agree with this. It doesn't help that the screen is slightly angled upward, either, so because of viewing angles if you're not standing above it it's even harder to see from a distance. -- mbg mbg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released
routerunner;670805 Wrote: thank you for the reply, but now is the linker that complains: Code: configure:12715: checking for oggpack_writealign configure:12771: mipsel-linux-gnu-gcc -o conftest -O20 -ffast-math -D_REENTRANT -fsigned-char -Wdeclaration-after-statement -DRENICE -DSLIMPROTO_DEBUG -DDAEMONIZE -DUSE_SIGNALS_FOR_RESTART -Wall -O2 -march=mips32 -msoft-float -static -DUSE_MEMORY_H -DRENICE -DSLIMPROTO_DEBUG -DDAEMONIZE -DUSE_SIGNALS_FOR_RESTART -Wall -O2 -march=mips32 -msoft-float -static -s -static conftest.c /home/edoardo/projects/squeezeslave/squeezeslave/lib/vorbis/lnx26/build/libvorbis-1.3.2/../../lib/libogg.a -logg -lm 5 /usr/lib/gcc/mipsel-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../mipsel-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -logg collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure:12777: $? = 1 Add --disable-oggtest to line 70. Code: cd lib/vorbis/$(OS)/build/$(LIBVORBIS) CC=$(CC) CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) CPPFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) LDFLAGS=$(LDFLAGS) OGG_CFLAGS=-I`pwd`/../../include OGG_LIBS=`pwd`/../../lib/libogg.a ./configure --enable-shared=no --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=mipsel-linux-gnu --target=mipsel-linux-gnu --disable-oggtest -- ralphy Ralphy *1*-Touch, *4*-Classics, *2*-Booms, *12*-Squeezeslaves 'Squeezeslave' (http://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donationsbusiness=LL5P6365KQEXNlc=CAitem_name=Squeezeslavecurrency_code=USDbn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
I've now uninstalled all plugins and it crashed again at some point over the last couple of days (I can't tell when). The last few days of server log is attached (I have a scan scheduled for 1am each morning). Does this give any clues? +---+ |Filename: server.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12770| +---+ -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;671129 Wrote: So you keep spending your time giving advices and tricks, for problems which should simply not exist at all. It would be far more effective to push Logitech and developers to make problems disappear. (asking weird NAS platform, or funny plugins, instead of getting decent library management push them the other way). The issue is that we no longer have anyone to push, it's pointless to push the Logitech developers available on these forums because they are not the ones that's deciding what should be prioritized these days. It was the case 5 years ago when the Slim Devices CEO was available on these forum but it's not the case today. Bugs are best to push for through http://bugs.slimdevices.com by voting on them or by complaining at the official Logitech support at http://forums.logitech.com. Enhancement requests are not possible to push for today unless you have a personal relationship with the person who decides what should be prioritized, currently I don't even have any clue who this person is. Regarding library management I've just given up, we won't get there with Logitech because it's not what they want, I've more or less tried to push for this since 2006 and it won't happen. And just to be sure you understand what I'm saying, when I say library management I really mean library management and not library scanning. Library management requires a persistent database and doing a complete rescan is basically not something you ever do except for once initially if the software supports library management. You scan for new files but you don't do a complete rescan. SBS/LMS has no library management functions what so ever today, it has library scanning functions but not any library management functions. The community SMD project will have library management functions, but at the moment it's evolving slowly because we have too few developers that contributes actively. For some reason we have accepted that it's a good idea to do a full rescan now and then and the result is that all the focus is on the scanner instead of music related functionality. I personally want the focus to be on the music because I want the system to be good at suggesting and playing music I like, I don't care if it has to scan to do so, that's just an implementation detail and it should be completely hidden for the user. I guess I'm just trying to say that if we ever want to get this software to be user friendly for non geeks we need to stop prioritizing technical things like scanning, tagging, database backend, servers and instead focus on things like usability, streaming services, playlist management, smart playlists and features related to audio quality. nicolas75;671129 Wrote: Of course it is a lot more fun (and far easier) to spend time helping a lot people and show how good and helpful you are. But it is far more effective to point out what should be corrected (instead of saying everything is great). Completely agree, but to make this work you need to be able to point it out to someone that actually can do something to solve the problem, and that's clearly not the community members of this forum. nicolas75;671129 Wrote: That's the difference between geeks having fun, and professionals who make a living from what they develop. I am quite certain none of you is a professional software manager (and a good professional software manager has to be an excellent software developer) - Knowing the product is a must to be able to be an excellent software manager. - Have a good understanding of the user needs is a must to be an excellent software manager. - Being able to describe the needs to the developers is a must to be an excellent software manager. While being an excellent software developer is an advantage but it's definitely not the most important skill for someone managing software. In many cases it can actually be a disadvantage, because people with development background sometimes tend to focus on technology instead of users. Unfortunately, from what I've seen lately, Logitech doesn't have much of any of the above, which makes me a bit worried. They have excellent developers but they don't seem to have anyone with good understanding of the user needs that decide what to prioritize. nicolas75;671129 Wrote: I have absolutely no doubt that without serious management from Logitech CEO and executives to change the geek state of mind which is behind LMS, this software is cold dead. Agreed, Logitech is not going to keep pushing a geek product on longer terms, they will either make it less geeky or drop it completely, the main reason it's still here is probably because they are still able to sell a lot of Squeezebox units. The change has to be initiated from upper management because that's the only way it will work in a large corporation like Logitech. Unfortunately, I have some doubts regarding how many people there are in upper management that really understand the music
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
Tried deleting the whole cache folder ? Is this a clean install or upgrade. Do you run a lot of plugins ? disable all but thr logitech delivered ones. Here ends my knowledge I never used win2003 server. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
