Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-10-18 Thread Phil Karn
On 10/10/2013 08:17 PM, Mnyb wrote: If you run debian testing ? why not run the 7.8 beta version of the server that have some fixes for the perl issues ( perl 5.18 ). if your prepared to run a beta versions of an OS Why not of the server I didn't even know there was a 7.8 beta version --

[slim] Anyone have a succinct summary of the squeezebox server situation?

2013-10-10 Thread Phil Karn
I've heavily used several Squeezeboxes and Boom Boxes for years, but I'm ready to throw them all in the trash. I just wasted several hours in an unsuccessful attempt to get squeezeboxserver (or logitechmediaserver, or slimserver, or whatever it's called this week) running again on a Debian Jesse

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-10-10 Thread Phil Karn
On 10/10/2013 06:12 PM, castalla wrote: I have LMS running on Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian - none of which are the latest and greatest - end result, rock solid systems and virtually no maintenance. That's your choice, but it's not mine. I strongly believe in updating software on a regular

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-10-10 Thread Phil Karn
On 10/10/2013 06:50 PM, castalla wrote: That's your choice! hardware is so cheap these days that you can easily run a headless server for LMS at about 35 USD. I think you are just giving yourself unnecessary grief. Oh, I know hardware is cheap. I even bought a separate server recently to

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-10-10 Thread Phil Karn
On 10/10/2013 06:16 PM, garym wrote: You might be interested in the ickstream project. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream-Music-Platformhighlight=Ickstream Thanks for the pointer. There is very little in the way of specifics, and a proprietary

Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-10-10 Thread Phil Karn
On 10/10/2013 07:22 PM, paulster wrote: Use Debian then. I've updated mine regularly over the last 5 years and keep LMS up to date as well, and have never had a hiccup. There are more bleeding-edge distros than Debian but their security patches are up to date. That's exactly what I run --

Re: [slim] Squeezeboxserver on Linux broken

2011-07-20 Thread Phil Karn
My Squeezebox servers have been down for a week because of this most recent problem and I get the very definite impression that no one really understands what's wrong (I certainly don't). Perl is fine for its original purpose of running quickie, one-off scripts on text and system log files.

[slim] Squeezeboxserver on Linux broken

2011-07-19 Thread Phil Karn
I accepted the package update on both of my Linux servers, and squeezeboxserver stopped working on both. The logs showed only that the wrapper was continually restarting the daemon, so I invoked it manually and got this very cryptic message. What should I make of it? I'm not a perl hacker, I just

Re: [slim] Squeezeboxserver on Linux broken

2011-07-19 Thread Phil Karn
On 7/19/11 9:47 AM, aubuti wrote: You would be much more likely to get a helpful response if you indicated (a) which Linux distro and version you are using, (b) which version of SBS you are using, (c) what version of SBS was previously working on the server, (d) what method you used to

[slim] GPG keys for Debian/Ubuntu packages?

2010-12-12 Thread Phil Karn
Are the .deb packages for Debian and Ubuntu Linux signed with GPG/PGP keys? This is standard practice for the Debian repositories to prevent the distribution of malware should a repository be compromised. I don't see a key for the Squeezeboxserver packages distributed from

[slim] Excessive traffic to www.mysqueezebox.com

2010-09-29 Thread Phil Karn
Every 5 minutes, like clockwork but sometimes even more often, the squeezeboxserver running on my Linux box opens a HTTP connection to www.myqueezebox.com and performs a GET. I've turned off all sorts of network syncing options and other features I've never used but the GETs continue. It appears

Re: [slim] Playing .m4a files?

2008-11-01 Thread Phil Karn
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody give me the low down - I am trying to play .m4a files (AAC and stuff) through SqueezeCentre (latest version). I use SqueezeCentre and then connect to the stream file with WMP at work. Is this possible, what needs to be

[slim] Boom aux input gain low?

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Karn Jr, KA9Q
I just got my Boom. Works great as a network player. I hooked my iPod up to the aux input and found that the gain is VERY low. With the iPod and Boom both cranked all the way up, I can just hear it across the room. What is the rated sensitivity of the Boom aux input?

Re: [slim] Boom aux input gain low?

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Karn
I just found the aux gain setting in the squeezecenter config page. It was at 50%. Turning it to 100% helped, but it's still not as high as it should be. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Does anyone buy MP3s from Amazon?

2008-08-16 Thread Phil Karn
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Goodsounds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what is your take on the CD quality issue? I personally prefer vinyl to plastic based on my listening experiences, but do you think that to be unfounded? Wow. A vinyl fan who is actually open to the possibility that

Re: [slim] problem with ogg file playback

2008-06-14 Thread Phil Karn
Mnyb wrote: I don't have any OGG files myself, so i can not experiment with this, somebody else have to chime in here. Do experiments with this, you wont damage anything, you can always restore the settings to what it was before. A guess would be that setting the OGG Vorbis box in OGG

[slim] Minor nit: lossless codecs are never CBR

2008-01-20 Thread Phil Karn
I know this is a really minor nit, but I've noticed it for a long time. Slimserver displays, on the Squeezebox and the web page, the bit rate for FLAC and other lossless material as CBR (Constant Bit Rate). Lossless compression algorithms like FLAC, ALAC, Monkey's Audio, Shorten, etc, are never

[slim] Replacing mDNSResponder with avahi

2007-12-26 Thread Phil Karn
I already run avahi (a Bonjour daemon) on my Linux box and I'd rather have it advertise my slimserver instead of having slimserver run its own copy of mDNSResponder. In the past I've done this by manually creating the appropriate avahi config file and commenting out the mDNSResponder invocation

Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer - A pain in the ass...

2006-12-31 Thread Phil Karn
Lost Viking wrote: It takes ~45secs from clicking to diplaying the result page. Is this normal? Will it be as slow using the Transporter (once I have it in my hands, it is still on its way..)?? *shudder* No, that's definitely not normal. IMHO, the Slimserver web interface could be a lot

Re: [slim] Re: Ogg Encoding Options

2006-12-31 Thread Phil Karn
I haven't seen any comments on my problems playing Ogg files with 6.5.1. Can anybody confirm that they *can* play Ogg files on 6.5.1 and a Squeezebox 2 or 3 with firmware version 71 without server decoding? Phil ___ discuss mailing list

Re: [slim] Re: First sec of song getting clipped off

2006-12-30 Thread Phil Karn
Eric Seaberg wrote: I'd really rather NOT re-rip everything with FLAC. I have thought about it just to get the extra quality bump, but iTunes won't read them which, for me anyway, REALLY puts a crimp in my tag editing and organization for SlimServer. As a Mac user, there just aren't as many

Re: [slim] Re: First sec of song getting clipped off

2006-12-29 Thread Phil Karn
Eric Seaberg wrote: I'd really rather NOT re-rip everything with FLAC. I have thought about it just to get the extra quality bump, but iTunes won't read them which, for me anyway, REALLY puts a crimp in my tag editing and organization for SlimServer. As a Mac user, there just aren't as many

Re: [slim] Re: Ogg Encoding Options

2006-12-28 Thread Phil Karn
rgmiller1974 wrote: Just tried that; no luck. Tried both compiling from source and a pre-built 32-bit binary (I'm running an Athlon64 so the one I compiled was 64-bit.) No matter what I use, I get the same errors from slimserver.pl: 2006-12-19 22:11:59.1207 Error: Decoder does not support

Re: [slim] Re: Ogg Encoding Options

2006-12-28 Thread Phil Karn
Phil Karn wrote: Today's build came with a player firmware update to version 71, and now neither my Squeezebox 2 nor my Squeezebox 3 will play any of my Ogg Vorbis files. WAV, FLAC and MP3 still play fine. Unfortunately, I updated both players' firmware files so I can't test with a 2 or 3

Re: [slim] Re: Ogg Encoding Options

2006-12-28 Thread Phil Karn
Phil Karn wrote: I figured out how to downgrade my Squeezebox 2 to the previous firmware version, 64. That does *NOT* fix the problem; Ogg Vorbis files still won't play on the 12/28/2006 version of 6.5.1. The log shows the following backtrace: I rolled everything back to 6.5.0 and my

Re: [slim] Re: Ogg Encoding Options

2006-12-28 Thread Phil Karn
Phil Karn wrote: If the firmware is indeed broken, is there a simple workaround to force transcoding of Ogg Vorbis to WAV for Squeezebox 2/3? I found the workaround: simply uncheck the Ogg Vorbis/Ogg Vorbis line in File Formats under Server Settings. Slimserver now transcodes to WAV

Re: [slim] Re: Radioio Deadhead?

2006-05-24 Thread Phil Karn
Peter wrote: Or try this: mms://radioio-dead-hi.wm.llnwd.net/radioio_dead_hi?MSWMExt=.asf (note the underscores) Works for me in 6.2.2. Thanks! --Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Re: SB sends no DHCP host name

2005-12-22 Thread Phil Karn
0xdeadbeef wrote: Unfortunately, in my case the DHCP server is running on my DSL modem/router and there's nothing to configure there. Though it should give the SQ the same IP every time due to MAC caching, I have the feeling it doesn't. Indeed, I observed at least 3 different IP addresses in the

Re: [slim] SB sends no DHCP host name

2005-12-15 Thread Phil Karn
0xdeadbeef wrote: When the Squeezebox requests an IP adress from a DHCP server, it doesn't seem to send its own host name. E.g. in Linux (Debian/Ubuntu), you can send the hostname to the DHCP server by adding the following lines to /etc/dhclient.conf: send dhcp-client-identifier

Re: [slim] SB3 review at Silent PC Review

2005-12-13 Thread Phil Karn
mflint wrote: Forgive me if this has been mentioned before: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article287-page1.html Overall it's a good review, and I'm glad he liked the Squeezebox 3, but early on he makes a few erroneous statements that might reduce his credibility with other readers. And it's

Re: [slim] Best way to back up music on Macs

2005-12-13 Thread Phil Karn
Marshall Clow wrote: So I use a Mac, and most of my music is on a laptop. Last year I had a laptop stolen, and had to rip everything again. So what i sthe best way to back up music on a Mac? Is there an easy way to get iTunes to access an external harddrive, or should I just burn everything

Re: [slim] The servers that a Squeezebox sees

2005-12-13 Thread Phil Karn
JJZolx wrote: I recently assigned my Windows XP computer a second IP address and switched to HTTP port 80 so that I could more easily address the SlimServer without a port, and so that I could run Apache on port 80 at another IP address on the same machine. SlimServer had been at

[slim] Client/server docs

2005-12-13 Thread Phil Karn
Two related questions. I've been looking at the protocols between the Squeezebox and the Slimserver with ethereal and I've noticed that the protocol specifications bundled with the Slimserver appear to be incomplete. I see commands and data structures that aren't documented. Is a more recent

Re: [slim] Re: 20Kb/sec bandwith used and it's not even playing anything?

2005-12-13 Thread Phil Karn
seanadams wrote: Who cares about 20Kb/s on a LAN? Nobody, at least not on a LAN. But it can be a problem if your Squeezebox and its server are separated by a shared wide area network. The Squeezeboxnetwork server appears designed to minimize network overhead, e.g., by updating the clock

Re: [slim] Weird DHCP bug on Slimserver 3 with latest firmware

2005-12-08 Thread Phil Karn
kdf wrote: I have 192.168.1.34 as a static assignment for the mac address of the player (listed on the bottom and in player settings). however, the lease table shows an entry for 20:05:73:00:00:0C and has been given 192.168.1.100. i have 100-149 as a 7-day dynamic block of leases. Whether

[slim] Weird DHCP bug on Slimserver 3 with latest firmware

2005-12-07 Thread Phil Karn
I just received a pair of Slimserver 3s and opened one of them up. When I configured it for my wireless network, it quickly configured itself with DHCP and downloaded new firmware, version 28. It then came back up, auto-configured itself again and worked fine for a while. Then I unplugged it

[slim] Re: Weird DHCP bug on Slimserver 3 with latest firmware

2005-12-07 Thread Phil Karn
A followup: I forced a reset to factory defaults (by holding down the ADD key and cycling power) and the problem I encountered with DHCP disappeared. DHCP worked fine. Then I turned on Ethernet/WiFi bridging, and the problem appeared again. Neither the Squeezebox nor the Powerbook I have

Re: [slim] Weird DHCP bug on Slimserver 3 with latest firmware

2005-12-07 Thread Phil Karn
kdf wrote: This sounds a lot like this report: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2221 Thanks for the pointer. This is indeed exactly the problem I'm seeing. That report specifies firmware version 22. I'm running 28, so apparently the bug has been in several versions. Is version 28

Re: [slim] Obtaining mp3s/flac/whatever legally

2005-10-20 Thread Phil Karn
max.spicer wrote: I've got a list of tracks that I'd like to own, but don't necessarily like the artists enough to go out and by the relevant albums (yet). I can't help you if you've got a list of specific tracks by artists on RIAA labels. But if you're looking for a good way to obtain MP3,

Re: [slim] mDNS broadcasts on all IP addresses

2005-08-15 Thread Phil Karn
slimbls wrote: Hi, slimserver newbie here...I have a suse 9.2 linux system that's my firewall and media server (please, no bottle tossing this way). After I installed slimserver (6.1.1) I asked it very nicely to only use my internal ethernet, but I'm still seeing UDP packets from myself on port

[slim] Source for bin programs?

2005-08-15 Thread Phil Karn
Where can I find the source for the various binaries included in the Slimserver package? I'm particularly interested in the source for the mDNSResponderPosix program, as I'm trying to set up mDNS on all my Linux machines to make them play better with our Macs. It appears that the Slimserver

Re: [slim] AAC playback background noise. Slimserver6/FreeBSD

2005-05-07 Thread Phil Karn
icestorm wrote: However...When I try to play AAC music from my FreeBSD server, (which is most of my music collection), I can hear a sound like a constant wind in the background, which becomes intolerable when I increase the volume. Please note that I can hear the song fine! This problem does not

Re: [slim] Noise Spike at Song Startup

2005-05-07 Thread Phil Karn
warc1 wrote: have experienced. The most annoying is a loud noise spike that occurs during the start of some songs when playing a long playlist. Is the spike really, really short and sharp, and right at the beginning of the track? If so, this could be the sound of the WAV header on the front of

Re: [slim] Apple Lossless

2005-05-07 Thread Phil Karn
Frank Xavier Ledo wrote: First, It seems that all songs start out with a pop. I am guessing that the command line options I set in convert.conf were incorrect and are resulting in a linefeed or space at the start of the song. What I used is: mov wav squeezebox * [alac] $FILE$ As a test

Re: [slim] SB1 buffer size

2005-04-08 Thread Phil Karn
Sean Adams wrote: When I started designing the Squeezebox1 hardware in 2002, I fully realized that an enormous buffer would be desirable. However, the architecture (which was chosen based on a long list of goals including ethernet/wireless capability, ability to drive a graphic VFD, OS

Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-04-08 Thread Phil Karn
Robin Bowes wrote: Can you show me where this claim is made? I'd be very surprised if this is true. For a start, the wired port on the SB1 is only 10MB/s (I can't find a spec. sheet to confirm this, but the last point here [1] says: - faster 100Mbps wired ethernet interface I do believe you're

[slim] Re: SB2 startup glitches

2005-03-30 Thread Phil Karn
Additional comment: the crunching during startup does *not* occur with the original SB running off the same v6.0.0 server. The problem happens only with the SB2, and only when playing FLAC or OGG, not MP3. Haven't tried other file types. Phil ___

Re: [slim] kinks in the SB2?

2005-03-30 Thread Phil Karn
Phillip Kerman wrote: First, mine goes blank for no apparent reason sometimes. Blank screen. I see that too. I don't think the unit actually crashes, but it can be disconcerting. Also, I'm trying to compare the digital out into my DAC to the internal DAC but the digital out can't stay locked (I

Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-03-23 Thread Phil Karn
Jack Coates wrote: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=c2coff=1client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialq=linux+encrypted+swap+partitionbtnG=Search I'm aware of the various ways to encrypt a swap partition. They are obsolete in this age of cheap, large RAM modules. Again, a fun

Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-03-21 Thread Phil Karn
Jack Coates wrote: You might want to do some research on modern virtual memory management... swap is necessary no matter how much RAM you have. I disagree. I see no reason for a swap partition when you already have far more physical RAM than most swap partitions used to be, and tasks never fail

Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-03-20 Thread Phil Karn
Jason wrote: The overwhelming majority of users do not seem to have the problems you have with the server crashing or grinding to a halt. It sounds like it might be worth your time to try Slimserver on another machine. Perhaps I did overstate the unreliability of the 5.4 code. What I said

Re: [slim] SB2 really doesn't support 96kHz PCM on S/PDIF?

2005-03-20 Thread Phil Karn
Richard Elen wrote: First, with the vast majority of users storing their music in lossy-compressed formats with sample rates seldom exceeding 44.1 kHz and often lower, this may be moot for a lot of people. Agreed. However with the advent of lossless compression format availability in the

Re: [slim] Prefered Archiving Format

2005-03-17 Thread Phil Karn
Robin Bowes wrote: Advice: Make sure you safeguard your collection against HDD failure in one or more ways. For example: - buy an external 400GB HDD and copy your rips onto that - buy another internal 400GB HDD and mirror your first disc. - burn your rips to DVD - stream your rips to

Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-03-16 Thread Phil Karn
Pat Farrell wrote: The problem with open source is that the contributors want to do the cool stuff, especially when it is pretty easy. Redesigning the basic engine is hard, slow, and has zero sizzle Well, most people would say the same thing about an operating system kernel. Yet Linux routinely

Re: [slim] Apple Lossless vs. FLAC

2005-03-16 Thread Phil Karn
Todd Larason wrote: Another option would be to run a server which speaks iTunes' sharing protocol. I haven't paid much attention to this space since doing the initial work figuring out the protocol, so I'm not sure if any of the pre-packaged servers would do quite what you want. The perl module

Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-03-16 Thread Phil Karn
Danny Rego wrote: Ummm...as does Windows XP (although the more geek-sided may refuse to believe that)what's your point? Slimserver is open source, so Linux is the closer analogue. Windows XP is 1) proprietary and 2) owned by Microsoft, so it has its excuses for being so unreliable. Making

Re: [slim] SB2 really doesn't support 96kHz PCM on S/PDIF?

2005-03-16 Thread Phil Karn
Patrick Dixon wrote: Phil, are you seriously saying that you can design a 'brick-wall' reconstruction filter at the Nyquist rate (fs/2)? With reasonably modern DSP techniques such as those employed in most modern DACs, yes. It's not *totally* brick-wall because all such filters are impossible,

Re: [slim] Ogg Vorbis Support on SB2?

2005-03-16 Thread Phil Karn
Christian Pernegger wrote: Sorry if I missed something in this thread, but what's the down side of ogg-pcm on the server? Bandwidth to the SB? Yes. Raw PCM is just below 1400kbit while the ogg stream itself would be much larger. Don't you mean that the ogg stream would be much *smaller* than

Re: [slim] Open firmware for SB2?

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Patrick Dixon wrote: IMHO, the two biggest threats to Slim Devices' competitive advantage are: * Product design - most 'normal' people think the Roku styling is better. Maybe. Personally, I think basic functionality and reliability are far more important. Then again, my Squeezeboxes are all

Re: [slim] Re: problems with symbolic linking

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Dan Sully wrote: I agree completely Phil - we're focused right now on making 6.0 stable. There was a big jump in functionality, speed and stability in changing out the entire backend between 5.4 and 6.0. However, as you well know, bugs are introduced along the way. I think this is exactly where

Re: [slim] Apple Lossless vs. FLAC

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Todd Larason wrote: Can you point me to documentation for the Vorbis metadata? I've scanned vorbis.com and xiph.org, and I'm just not finding it. Start here: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html I decided on Vorbis for my meta data partly because I have a large collection of

Re: [slim] Apple Lossless vs. FLAC

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Todd Larason wrote: The iTunes practice isn't that simple. Speaking of the iTunes database structure, do you happen to know of any utilities that can scan a music folder and build the iTunes XML structure from the tags in the music files (other than iTunes itself, that is)? The reason I ask is

Re: [slim] Apple Lossless vs. FLAC

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Michael Peters wrote: There are issues in other areas - for example, some CD's will have more than one artist - U2 for example, the album Rattle and Hum. In that case I'd just use a different ARTIST tag for each track, just as for a compilation album like Greatest Hits of the '70s. Unlike the

Re: [slim] Open firmware for SB2?

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Patrick Dixon wrote: it's worked very well for Linux. Really? As someone struggling to get FC3 configured, googling for information produces many more people with Linux problems than there are solutions out there. I was talking about Linux, which is just an OS kernel. There has traditionally

Re: [slim] Re: shorten

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
kdf wrote: to make things worse, systems like windows dont like /dev/null so the server spits out a warning for every shorten file it finds and never adds them to the db properly. I have only about 10 shorten files. Only 2 are playable with slimserver. I have tried to find alternative ways of

Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
momerath wrote: having odd problems connecting after power off, and, of course, pcm streaming skips sometimes, even in situations I would have thought would certainly work. I think the PCM skipping (buffer underflow) problem could be substantially improved if a little attention were paid to

Re: [slim] Suggestions for 802.11g Wireless Router?

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Chris Glushko wrote: I would suggest staying away from Netgear. I just replaced my WR614 today. Even with the latest firmware, my netgear router was never very stable and under intense use (i.e. a few hours of Bittorrent w/ Azureus) the netgear would essentially freeze, needed to power cut off

Re: [slim] Apple Lossless vs. FLAC

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Phillip Kerman wrote: I have a proof of concept thing I built in Flash that parses iTunes's XML. What do you need to extract exactly? I'm pretty sure it'd be easy to adapt this thing I have to output a string (in any form you want) to your clipboard so that you can paste it into another tool or

Re: [slim] Suggestions for 802.11g Wireless Router?

2005-03-13 Thread Phil Karn
Michael Peters wrote: Just for the record - I have the same issue with my Linksys wrt54g router. I should point out that I use only the wireless base station and 4-port Ethernet switch features on our WRT54Gs. I don't use the built-in DHCP or NAT/routing functions at all; that's all handled by a

[slim] Virgin Radio Ogg Vorbis streaming problems

2005-03-12 Thread Phil Karn
Has anyone tried to listen to Virgin Radio (London) on their Ogg Vorbis streams? The streams are: http://ogg.smgradio.com/vr160.ogg http://ogg.smgradio.com/vc160.ogg http://ogg.smgradio.com/gr160.ogg Their equivalent MP3 streams work fine, but their Ogg streams close at the end of each song. At

[slim] Bombout in 6.0b1

2005-03-12 Thread Phil Karn
I brought up 6.0b1 tonight, and while it was rebuilding the database it abruptly exited with these messages: Use of uninitialized value in multiplication (*) at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Player/SqueezeboxG.pm line 65. Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at

Re: [slim] problems with symbolic linking

2005-03-12 Thread Phil Karn
kdf wrote: that's a font crash. are you trying to run slimserver 5.4 with a softsqueeze session that is still running from 6.0? SB2 (and softsqueeze 2.0a11) use different fonts, so they will cause earlier servers to barf. It may also be that you ran with 6.0 and it had the same MAC addy, so the

Re: [slim] 60b1 buggy?!

2005-03-12 Thread Phil Karn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried the new version 60b1 yesterday, but immediately downgraded to 5.4.1 Where's 5.4.1? I don't see it in http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads. I only see 5.4.0 and the v6 betas. If there's a stable, no-frills version of the server software, I would very much like to

Re: [slim] SB2 and FLAC

2005-03-11 Thread Phil Karn
Phillip Kerman wrote: For my ears, my SB plays FLACs back to back perfectly. I've yet to find an instance where it doesn't... and there are many cases where you'd definitely hear a pause if one were inserted. Right, thanks for confirming my observation. As an aside, I have noticed that, unlike

Re: [slim] Open firmware for SB2?

2005-03-11 Thread Phil Karn
Sean Adams wrote: That was SLIMP3 firmware, which was all code I wrote myself, so we could release it however we wanted. Squeezebox and Squeezebox2 include 3rd party proprietary OS and wireless drivers and require a $30,000 development kit in order to write code for them. These are just a few

Re: [slim] MP3 quality on repeat copies

2005-03-11 Thread Phil Karn
Patrick Dowling wrote: On average what level of compression are you seeing? I know there are many factors, but for space planning I'm looking for a general estimate. A very rough rule-of-thumb is about 50% (2:1). You get better than that on quiet classical music, and worse on loud,

Re: [slim] MP3 quality on repeat copies

2005-03-11 Thread Phil Karn
Here's another data point for comparison. I recently bought the Magnatune label album Nocturne by The West Exit and was given my choice of file format to download. Here are the sizes: # 44k/16bit WAV: 507meg zip of perfect quality WAVs. # FLAC: 357meg zip file of perfect quality FLAC files. #

Re: [slim] Suddenly can't start SlimServer on Linux

2005-03-11 Thread Phil Karn
Jack Coates wrote: Either slimserver is already running, or something else is using its network port. As root, ps aux | grep slimserver. That won't show if another process is listening to that port. If you have the lsof (list open files) command, that's a better way to get the information you

Re: [slim] Apple Lossless vs. FLAC

2005-03-11 Thread Phil Karn
Chris Glushko wrote: If you are an iPod user and you like using iTunes to manage your music, wouldn't Apple Lossless be the most logical choice for your primary archive? Well, it might be -- if you're willing to spend all that precious iPod disk space on a lossless format. If you insist on

Re: [slim] Out of curiosity

2005-03-11 Thread Phil Karn
Joshua Uziel wrote: Oh, I'm well-aware of SCO and a whole bunch of other open source related cases over the years. :) Sure, this is a conceivable outcome. To be honest, while I'd prefer to be able to play with the firmware for the SB2 and add stuff like native ogg support, the fact that it

Re: [slim] Gapless playback with mp3 - another shot

2005-03-09 Thread Phil Karn
Can somebody give me some background on gapless playback? I don't understand why it's a big problem. With FLAC, at least, I don't seem to have any problem at all playing tracks that flow together seamlessly. Occasionally I'll get a FLAC file that was created with an erroneously embedded WAV

Re: [slim] SB2 and FLAC

2005-03-09 Thread Phil Karn
Steinar Bjaerum wrote: I have started to rip my record collection to FLAC. I am using one FLAC file per album, internal cuesheets with tag information included as numbered Vorbis Comments. This works great with SB1 and server-side decoding. I'm curious as to why you did this. I've also ripped my

Re: [slim] Open firmware for SB2?

2005-03-09 Thread Phil Karn
Jason wrote: The obvious risk to slim devices if they do this is that some other company can produce a super budget version of the SB, load the SB firmware onto it and completely undercut Slim Devices potentially putting them out of business. Quite frankly, I just don't see all that much value in

Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2, could it be an access point also?

2005-03-09 Thread Phil Karn
Andrew Lucas wrote: Hi, Just curious, seeing you can get to the Squeeze 2's wireless interface via the ethernet connector, would it be also possible to use this this a basic wireless access point. The SB2 as described is a wireless bridge, not an access point. A wireless bridge is a *client* of

Re: [slim] Squeezebox2 wireless interference question

2005-03-09 Thread Phil Karn
Christian Pernegger wrote: Question: Are there any disadvantages in having the radio and one antenna internal? I'm thinking interference, added noise in the analog stages ... Probably very little, if any. Spurious noise from computing equipment is generally strongest at the lowest frequencies,

Re: [slim] (a bit OT) firewall in the router (was Squeezebox2)

2005-03-09 Thread Phil Karn
Ken Hokugo wrote: Dean or anyone, Would the firewall feature in these routers (wireless or wired) be good enough so that I can get rid of Zonealarm Pro which contributes 10 to 15% more of CPU usage when playing Slimserver? If I could get rid of the sw based firewall, that would be great. A

Re: [slim] Squeezebox2

2005-03-09 Thread Phil Karn
Christian Pernegger wrote: I'd been holding out for a public domain linux apple lossless decompression solution that would run compfortably on a squeezebox, but this might push me to dual libraries (one flac, one aac for ipod)... There is a preliminary FOSS decoder for ALE out:

Re: [slim] Squeezebox install creates IP address conflict -- resolved!

2005-03-06 Thread Phil Karn
Roy Owen wrote: Don't be suprised if the problem re-occurs. It's been my experience that problems that fix themselves will bite you in the backside at the most inconvient time. Yeah. That's why you should take the time to assign permanent addresses to each one of your devices, and use dynamic

Re: [slim] Squeezebox causing RFI on AM

2005-03-06 Thread Phil Karn
Maurice Poirier wrote: Since I installed my Squeezebox, there is constant static interference on AM radio reception. Is it the ethernet cable that is causing this -- or the Squeezebox itself?? The AM tuner is on same receiver that the Squeezebox is connected to, and the Squeezebox is located

Re: [slim] MP3 quality on repeat copies

2005-03-06 Thread Phil Karn
Others have already pointed out that MP3 files are like any other kind of computer file; as long as no errors occur during copying, the copies will be exactly identical to the original. Only if you decompress and recompress will there be any further degradation. Having said that, let me make a

[slim] new open source decoder for Apple Lossless

2005-03-05 Thread Phil Karn
http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

Re: [slim] Modifying squeezebox clock

2005-03-04 Thread Phil Karn
momerath wrote: Phil is absolutely correct that the burden of proof is on the audiophile, and that a double blind study is the only practical way to prove the audibility of jitter. I intend to do this in the near future with some skeptical friends. By all means, if you can run a controlled test,

Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists

2005-03-03 Thread Phil Karn
Robin Bowes wrote: I'd like to propose that additional mailing lists are created to split up the traffic more, particularly on the general list. I'd also like to see the names of the lists change as indicated below. In general, I think this is a bad idea. Topics have a way of crossing

Re: [slim] New Squeezebox?

2005-03-02 Thread Phil Karn
Christopher Jacob wrote: and a hard drive and a keyboard and a mouse Then build yourself a mini-ATX PC, or buy a Mac mini and run Softsqueeze. The whole point of a Squeezebox is to have a small, light, low-power, and **fanless** box that just plays music and plays it well. I think the current

Re: [slim] Magnatunes vs. slimserver

2005-03-02 Thread Phil Karn
Chip Hart wrote: ...after hearing a few references to Magnatunes here, I decided to check it out. Cool idea, surprisingly good music. I was about to work on parsing their WWW pages to extra playlists when I realized _they'd already done the hard work_ and

Re: [slim] Magnatunes vs. slimserver

2005-03-02 Thread Phil Karn
Chip Hart wrote: Oh, unless I am misunderstanding you, check this out: http://magnatune.com/info/api Look at the XML and csv files - tons of data. I've got it parsed and all, what I really struggle with is a cool way to I guess I wasn't aware of all that stuff.

Re: [slim] Modifying squeezebox clock

2005-03-02 Thread Phil Karn
Robin Bowes wrote: What information on that image tells you that? It seems to me you're not understanding what you're seeing. The legend says the time trace is 5 ns/div. A pair of measuring lines implies that the jitter on the uncorrected is somewhat less than that, about 3 ns. As I recall (I

Re: [slim] Modifying squeezebox clock

2005-03-02 Thread Phil Karn
Phil Karn wrote: Even if that jitter were directly imposed on the local VCO, which it is not because of loop filtering, it would still be reduced by a factor of 64 as the VCO clock is divided by 64 to produce the DAC sample clock. I'm going to have to revise and correct this. (In my defense

Re: [slim] Modifying squeezebox clock

2005-03-01 Thread Phil Karn
Triode wrote: For some science, try the following: http://www.essex.ac.uk/ese/research/audio_lab/malcolmspubdocs/C41%20SPDIF%20interface%20flawed.pdf Okay, I've read it. And I'm still not convinced. Although his math looks fairly solid, he makes a lot of questionable assumptions that lead to

Re: [slim] Modifying squeezebox clock

2005-03-01 Thread Phil Karn
Julian Alden-Salter wrote: 1) The fact that my dac locks on with different qualities of lock when mp3 and flacs are played back. Suggesting that there is indeed some difference in the spdif data stream between the two formats. What do you mean by different qualities of lock? I've had no trouble

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