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JJZolx Wrote: What makes you think you're susceptible or pre-disposed to tinnitus? You either have it or you don't. I also have tinnitus, probably from working in my younger days around heavy machinery and power tools without hearing protection. It tends to be worse, or at least more bothersome, when I'm fatigued, but it never actually goes away. Because its what my ENT said. I have about a 6dB dip in the left ear at that frequency and have pronounced tinnitus. Most people have to have 20-30dB of signal loss before tinnitus develops. My test results were strange enough that they had me go back and do a BSER (brain stem evoked response) test to make sure my brain was working properly. So based on all of that, yes, I believe I am more susceptible to tinnitus symptoms than most people. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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ceejay Wrote: I do this now... normal wireless headphones plugged into my stereo. This is a good idea. I'd love to listen to my SB while mowing. Any recommendations on wireless headphones that I would be able to hear over the sound of a mower? -- Mike Meyer SB2 / Pioneer VSX-1015TX / Orb Audio Mod 1's Mike Meyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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For those thinking about a SlimNAS, don't miss this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20597 -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mike Meyer Wrote: This is a good idea. I'd love to listen to my SB while mowing. Any recommendations on wireless headphones that I would be able to hear over the sound of a mower? You shouldn't want to. The only thing you should have in/around your ears while mowing are earplugs and possibly noise-reducing earmuffs over those. Turning up headphones to drown out something as loud as a mower is a sure path to hearing loss. An alternative, if you don't have an enormous lawn, is to get a mechanical push mower. I've had mine since I moved out on my own (about 7 years ago) and it works great. Using headphones with one of those (at a low volume) is probably OK. :) -- eq72521 eq72521's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1512 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Agreed. It's really eye-opening (and ear-splitting) to turn off the mower and realize just how loud you've turned up the headphones. You might possibly be okay with active noise cancelling headphones, although I'm not sure how well they do in blocking the frequencies emitted by a lawn mower. Or you could use some in-ear headphones like Etymotics. But I'm not aware of any headphones on the market that are both (a) wireless and (b) noise cancelling/blocking. OTOH, you could do fine with noise blocking headphones like the Etymotics attached to a portable player. But I'm not suggesting that the SB3 is a portable device! -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jmpage2 Wrote: This is absolutely correct. I'm only 33 years old and already have pronounced tinnitus (incessant ringing in the years). I don't go to numerous concerts or normally blare my music, so what's the culprit for my hearing loss? Turning up the volume on high efficiency headphones when I'm mowing the lawn, flying on an airplane (I travel for business frequently) and so on. Hearing loss is no joke (just try going to sleep or enjoy reading a book in a quiet room with your ears constantly ringing). I fear that the current Gen-Y folks who crank up their car stereos and iPods like crazy are in for some serious hearing loss when they get to be my age. I have the same issue, and I'm only 29, which is why I was so quick to reply to the original mower. I actually don't have any hearing loss per se, yet, but the tinnitus is *extremely* annoying and probably a portent of worse things to come. I still don't know where mine came from, which makes it doubly irritating. Maybe about 10 loud concerts in my life, only 2 or 3 of which were without earplugs, no loud stereos or headphones, and I don't even travel that much. -- eq72521 eq72521's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1512 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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1) Slimserver built in to the SB itself. Numerous SB's on same network allow one to become the master. Simply point the squeeze box to a file server share and possibly a share to store the database. Plugins, etc., could still use this share as well. 2) A bare bones squeeze box. No remote, no display, nada. Just the smallest functional device possible. I.E., wireless, maybe cat5, and audio outs only. Used for synched rooms, garages, etc. Battery powered? Heh, tape it to your boom box. :) 3) A highend SB...with video output for TV's. Have the ability to display album art and status, SlimDevices news, RSS feeds, etc. (likely to require a wired connection) 4) An option to display artist/album/title information from an online mp3 music database. Taking into consideration directory structure, file naming convention, and/or current tag information, this should be possible. (configured or using the same data entered in the Guess Tags Formats section) 5) The ability to have squuezebox cook me dinner. -- hashref hashref's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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eq72521 Wrote: I have the same issue, and I'm only 29, which is why I was so quick to reply to the original mower. I actually don't have any hearing loss per se, yet, but the tinnitus is *extremely* annoying and probably a portent of worse things to come. I still don't know where mine came from, which makes it doubly irritating. Maybe about 10 loud concerts in my life, only 2 or 3 of which were without earplugs, no loud stereos or headphones, and I don't even travel that much. I agree that it's not a good idea. But it is something I've done for 25 years and will be hard to stop. Mowing is so boring. :) I know fast food is bad for me too and I continue to eat it. But seriously, I should try mowing without the headphones and see how it goes. I haven't tried that for a long time. My music preference is heavy metal so I do like it loud. I'm 37 and so far the ears are ok. what? did you say something?? -- Mike Meyer SB2 / Pioneer VSX-1015TX / Orb Audio Mod 1's Mike Meyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mike Meyer Wrote: I agree that it's not a good idea. But it is something I've done for 25 years and will be hard to stop. You should seriously consider some in-ear headphones like Etymotics, some of the Shure models, or the like. Like earplugs, they block external sounds. But they allow your music to play through. Of course, you'll still destroy your ears if you insist on cranking the volume up to 11. Check out www.headphone.com -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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aubuti Wrote: You should seriously consider some in-ear headphones like Etymotics, some of the Shure models, or the like. Like earplugs, they block external sounds. But they allow your music to play through. Of course, you'll still destroy your ears if you insist on cranking the volume up to 11. Check out www.headphone.com I will check those out. Thanks. Studies have shown that people exposed to 85 decibels for eight hours tend to develop hearing loss, Brian Fligor, ScD, of Children's Hospital in Boston, tells WebMD. He found that all the CD players he examined produced sound levels well in excess of 85 decibels. Every time you increase a sound level by three decibels, listening for half as long will produce the same amount of hearing loss. The kid who cuts my grass uses an iPod. The lawn mower noise is about 80 to 85 decibels. If he likes listening to his iPod 20 decibels above that, he's in the range of 100-105 decibels. At that sound level he shouldn't listen for more than eight to 15 minutes. I might be in trouble. -- Mike Meyer SB2 / Pioneer VSX-1015TX / Orb Audio Mod 1's Mike Meyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Pale Blue Ego Wrote: 2 - a premium remote control dedicated to making the SB experience easier, more fun and enjoyable. It would have a bright, vivid color LCD screen at least 320 x 240 pixels. Album art and track details are displayed as the song plays. Browse by album cover is possible (touch screen?). Backlighting is essential. RF is standard, so you don't need line-of-sight. These technologies tend to be pretty expensive, so the remote might cost more than the actual SB! I'm thinking in the $300 - $500 range. A lot of people would want it, though. It's a nice upgrade for existing SB die-hards, and I'm guessing a significant number of new orders would go for the upgrade remote, too. Nokia 770 does the following: 700x480(!) bright, backlit, beautiful resolution 802.11g/b/a WiFi Touchscreen Opera web browser sub $400 Nokia770 skin (6.5 only), does the following: Browse by cover art in two different methods Displays cover art and track info of song that is playing Enhanced playlist viewing/editing Ajax-enabled code for richer user experience (added yesterday) Support for Michael Herger's excellent Biography and Album Review plugins The Nokia 770 internet tablet is not without its shortcomings, but I thought I'd throw this in since your description is basically *exactly* what the 770 does today. FWIW, you can also stream slim directly to it and listen with headphones...(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770) cheers, #!/ben btw-- my vote, hands down, is for a portable squeezebox. I'd put AM/FM on it because that's probably cheap to do anyway, and makes it usable outside of your Slimserver WiFi range. Do a partnership with Sonic and integrate a T-amp, stick some decent speakers on it, fab a box for the thing, and call it done. I'd call it something like Squeeze!Boom!Box! or Squeezeboom. -- bklaas bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mike Meyer Wrote: I might be in trouble. You may want to consider getting tested. Hearing loss is usually gradual and progressive and your brain adjusts to it so you don't notice it. Unless you get very-noticeable tinnitus as mentioned by jmpage2 and aubuti, you may not realize how much hearing loss you've incurred. High-frequency hearing is the first to go. A cheap (free!) test is: can you hear the HF whine of a CRT TV? I think that's about 16-18 kHz and it's quite quiet. If you can hear it from several feet you've probably still got fairly good hearing. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mark Lanctot Wrote: You may want to consider getting tested. Hearing loss is usually gradual and progressive and your brain adjusts to it so you don't notice it. Unless you get very-noticeable tinnitus as mentioned by jmpage2 and aubuti, you may not realize how much hearing loss you've incurred. High-frequency hearing is the first to go. A cheap (free!) test is: can you hear the HF whine of a CRT TV? I think that's about 16-18 kHz and it's quite quiet. If you can hear it from several feet you've probably still got fairly good hearing. Interestingly enough my hearing loss is not severe, but I am very susceptible to tinnitus. When they tested my hearing it was quite good other than a dip in the left ear around 7khz. Unfortunately since I am apparently pre-disposed to tinnitus it means that over time as natural age related hearing loss occurs the tinnitus will probably only get much worse. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jmpage2 Wrote: Interestingly enough my hearing loss is not severe, but I am very susceptible to tinnitus. When they tested my hearing it was quite good other than a dip in the left ear around 7khz. Unfortunately since I am apparently pre-disposed to tinnitus it means that over time as natural age related hearing loss occurs the tinnitus will probably only get much worse. What makes you think you're susceptible or pre-disposed to tinnitus? You either have it or you don't. I also have tinnitus, probably from working in my younger days around heavy machinery and power tools without hearing protection. It tends to be worse, or at least more bothersome, when I'm fatigued, but it never actually goes away. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx Wrote: What makes you think you're susceptible or pre-disposed to tinnitus? You either have it or you don't. I also have tinnitus, probably from working in my younger days around heavy machinery and power tools without hearing protection. It tends to be worse, or at least more bothersome, when I'm fatigued, but it never actually goes away. Like jmpage2, I feel that I'm predisposed in some way. I don -- eq72521 eq72521's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1512 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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On Tue, May 9, 2006 03:33, Pale Blue Ego wrote: Ok, I'll vote for a self-contained DIN-sized car stereo Squeezebox with a built-in 100GB drive running slimserver and small, cool-running digital amps from Tripath. Have a look at http://www.dension.com/dh100ix_info.htm - it is a standard car stereo with a built-in removable drive and plays mp3. But it is unfortunately not open source and not easily extendable like Slim. /Erik ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Next from those fine folks at Slim Devices?, Okay, Ill surface from deep lurk to add my tuppence worth. I think they should be attacking the Sonos/Streamium type market. For the average Joe, the SB is still very much a high tech geek orientated device. Just look at the nature of the posts on this forum as an example. To make it really big I think they should be going for a market with minimum set up stress in mind. If Slim made a base station that consisted of say a wireless router (pre set to talk to the owners SBs), and hard drive, and, if the assembly was quiet enough a built in player, they could then market SBs preconfigured to talk to the base straight out of the box. The base station would probably look like a smallish Tivo type HiFi component. A Slim NAS and Squeezebox combo if you like The base station could have a standard network connection so it could be integrated into an existing network if users desired, and for updating etc. Or/and it could have a usb connection that could take updates from a thumb drive, or music from a PC, it could even have future expansion with internal slots for additional drives. This architecture might form the basis for in-car setups, and those who have a desire to take their networks camping, sailing, onto Everest (or anywhere beyond the current range of a domestic WiFi) with them. If the SBs formed a mesh like the Sonos then all the better. Ive recently got the Slim bug, but a month ago I didnt have any networking experience, (absolutely none at all, I literally didnt know DHCP from an IP address) and have had a few nights of tweaking to get everything set up and working. From my limited research, Sonos scores over the Slim stuff in ease of setup, and that can be an attractive thing to some folks. I had to go out and buy a networks for dummies type book (best 10 quid Ive spent recently!) to set up a WiFi to take full advantage of my two SB3s. Of course, people will still want to customise their installations, as they do now, and Id hate to see the evolutionary nature die because of any Slim standardisation or some sort of technical lock down as part of the simplification. So for the future, maybe a dumbed down Slim base and preconfigured SBs, all talking to each other straight out of the box, just like a Sonos. -- nacmacfeegle nacmacfeegle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4889 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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nacmacfeegle Wrote: If Slim made a base station that consisted of say a wireless router (pre set to talk to the owners SBs), and hard drive, and, if the assembly was quiet enough a built in player, they could then market SBs preconfigured to talk to the base straight out of the box. The base station would probably look like a smallish Tivo type HiFi component. A Slim NAS and Squeezebox combo if you like . Hear, hear! A Slim SlimServer is what I've been calling it! I think the storage is best left external (USB), so that it is very configurable (size, and media - it might not be that long before we stop using spinning disks!) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Here is what I'd like to see #8230; a SlimSilentNAS (SSN) All the pieces are there. All that is needed is a tie integration of all components and a close partnership of all the vendors. The partnership would have a single focus - To build a fully supported SlimServer on high performance quiet NAS - The partners in my dream scenario would be Slim Devices, Infrant and A-Tech Fabrication. The SSN would be a ReadyNAS NV board inside an A-Tech NAS4x optimized to run SlimServer. Slim Devices already has some sort of partnership with Infrant and Infrant already supplies A-Tech with NAS boards. All we need is one or a combination of these vendors to put a small team together to built this SSN. This team would optimize the Slimserver to run on the NV or NV like board, find the best performance server duty RAID drives for the NAS4x box, test/built the SSNs and provide support to end users#8230; when necessary. Cons: Ok, there are some limitation. The NAS board that I'd like to have is the board in the ReadyNAS NV, but it will not fit in the NAS4x without some modifications. Infrant makes other boards that do fit the NAS4x, namely, the IT71004 board. There is also limitations on Hot-Swapping the RAID drives as the NAS4x is a close box. Cost, well one can start with one drive and build up. Currently. Infrant does not support pre-releases of SlimServer or full support of Plug-ins. (Infrant is already working on providing full support for Plug-ins). Pros: Quiet (Fanless), would coexist and look nice with any AV System (the NAS4x is available in Black and Silver), 1 Gig Ethernet with big frames, up to 2TB of storage (4 500GB Drives), Plug-n-play out of the box, no need for a PC. Infrant Ready NAS NV http://www.infrant.com/ A-Tech NAS4x http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/mass_storage_NAS4X.htm Am I dreaming too big here? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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This may be the tecnique used by Apple. Keep the new product a secret, so that people speculate about what it could be.. and then use those ideas for the next product a year later. My 2 Centimes would be a remote, a la Sonos... If you are sitting further away than 5m from the SB it's unusable.. -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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On 5/9/06, Sike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be the tecnique used by Apple. Keep the new product a secret,so that people speculate about what it could be.. and then use those ideas for the next product a year later.My 2 Centimes would be a remote, a la Sonos... If you are sittingfurther away than 5m from the SB it's unusable..There is no place in my house where one can be five meters from the SB. Either your house is too big or you don't have enough Squeezeboxes. I'm fine with a dedicated server appliance idea, but only if it's named FATBOX, capitals required. Bonus points if its splash page makes reference to eating babies.I think that a boombox is the best reach from existing product line, no fundamental server-side changes needed, but they aren't precluded either. -- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I'm not coming from a technophile or audiophile point of view when I say this. I'm just saying where my pain is as a consumer. My stereo stuff inside the house is pretty much built out. Streaming and synchronization would be an enhancement, but I'd be more motivated to buy something that gives new capability, especially something I've been wanting for a long time and can't even find. I want to listen to my music outdoors, and that means battery-powered and wet. By the hot tub, poolside, beach, boat, gardening, camping, etc. If you've ever bought a hot tub, you've seen the $2000 stereo they try to sell you. A regular boombox will only last so long until it gets splashed, and it has a power problem. To listen to your own content, you have to burn CDs and spin them, which eats battery. I think SB would have the power consumption of a radio, which would be great. My perfect system would start with a battery-powered SB that you could clip onto your belt and listen to with headphones while working in the yard or garage, or just walking around the house for that matter. That SB would dock into a stripped-down chassis consisting of amplifier, speakers, AC power connector and battery compartment. Then you could buy additional modules that would snap into the thing, like a DVD player (not video, but a DVD will hold a bunch more FLACs than a CD), or a radio tuner. The thing would have a USB port so you could stick a thumb drive in there and listen to music from that. One easy thing that could be done to get the best audio quality for the price is to design detachable speakers. Each having its own enclosure improves the sound, and being able to separate them a few feet would help a lot too. A coolness would be if you could run it on AC with the (rechargeable) batteries in it and automatically recharge them. You could take the boombox anywhere, and you wouldn't have to buy several different devices for different applications. Another coolness would be a bootable SlimServer CD so you could take your boombox to a friend's house, boot his computer to SlimServer and stream his music without installing anything on his computer. Next thing you know, he'll want one too. How cool would it be to take the laptop camping and stream to the boombox out in the forest? How cool while on a business trip to stream from the laptop in the back seat? I would get so much use from something this versatile that I would pay $600 bucks in a heartbeat (well, $250 for the SB plus $350 for the boombox). Probably take a couple of weeks to talk myself into paying $800. Slim Devices, please make a waterproof boombox for me and the legions of people like me!! (I can hear them shouting in unison) -- Jukie Jukie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Jukie Wrote: My perfect system would start with a battery-powered SB that you could clip onto your belt and listen to with headphones while working in the yard or garage, or just walking around the house for that matter. I do this now... normal wireless headphones plugged into my stereo. If I want to be able to control what I'm listening to I put my wireless PDA in my pocket (even better now with Slimremote on it) Another coolness would be a bootable SlimServer CD so you could take your boombox to a friend's house, boot his computer to SlimServer and stream his music without installing anything on his computer. Next thing you know, he'll want one too. http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=763 Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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My speculation: Significant price drop and a new sticker on the back. Made in China -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Jukie Wrote: Slim Devices, please make a waterproof boombox for me and the legions of people like me!! (I can hear them shouting in unison) Hear, hear! The pool is open and it needs some tunes! -- MeSue Sue PS: I want a Squeezebox boombox. MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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and my lawn is growing... I can't pull my ass outta the couch without tunes outside. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Ok, I'll vote for a self-contained DIN-sized car stereo Squeezebox with a built-in 100GB drive running slimserver and small, cool-running digital amps from Tripath. 100GB would be plenty of space, especially since in a noisy car FLAC would be overkill. You could get by with high-quality mp3/wma/aac/ogg files, and could fit about 10k-15k tracks depending on bitrate. Don't make the player removable, that's too insecure. Just have a front-panel USB 2.0 connection. You load the thing up before installing it, then use a thumb drive to add new tracks once the player is installed. It would have fewer glitches because slim would be in control of all the parameters. No networking problems, and they can make sure the CPU and RAM are enough to handle the task. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Pale Blue Ego Wrote: Don't make the player removable, that's too insecure. Just have a front-panel USB 2.0 connection. You load the thing up before installing it, then use a thumb drive to add new tracks once the player is installed. Wireless :P My router is about 20' from where the car is sitting right now... I could load up tunes and be ready to go. :) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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HDMI outputs. Not convinced wi-fi g is really up to it, plus there's the matter of insufficient media, but I would like to be able to get rid of the dvd player as well as the cd player! -- kefa Fedora Core 4, Slimserver 6.2.1, Netgear DG834GT Squeezebox 3, Primare SPA20, Monitor Audio GR20 Squeezebox 2, Denon UD-M30, Monitor Audio PMC703 kefa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=421 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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by the millions. Slimservers too geeky, not suitable for music appliances. SB3MFA3.24DACAlps pot2 Naks PA7sBW802Nautilus After 2 months ownership, still could not figure out if Slim is porting over Itunes data at all since no playlists appear on SB. Only songs with truncated names and titles. Truly weird wild stuffs! But SB3 sure sounds so much better than Roku gear. -- empty99 empty99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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mkozlows Wrote: Prepping for the Pandora SqueezeNetwork stuff, most likely... Busy working out how Pandora/SqueezeNetwork is going to benefit anyone outside the US... -- Bart Bart's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=116 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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How about video output? Either just for a user interface or maybe even ultimately to stream video libraries and cool audio/video plugins... -Greg -- GoCubs GoCubs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I predict a new QA department that thoroughly tests products before shipping. I predict they work hard to create a better out-of-box experience. I predict they source higher quality wireless cards and power supplies. If this was all they did for a year I would buy (3). -- slimdemage slimdemage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Satellite Radio Killer: Satellite radio like car unit that can blue tooth or otherwise connect to an internet capable mobile phone and has an aux-out and/or built-in FM modulator. In other words, use the cellular/PCS data network that is being deployed to stream internet radio stations, squeeze network or even attach to your slimserver back home. But, a video streaming capability would be cool too. :) Mitch -- Mitch G Mitch G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=548 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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dip Wrote: A big color LCD display which allows to display art work during playback and even during browse music (for the cases you don't know the name of an album but you exactly know how the cover looks like). While they are at it they should make it touchscreen/stylus capable with a default jukebox skin! -- fathom39 fathom39's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: What's next from Slim? Speculate here.
Just give me my radio alarm clock already :) - independent clock, synced when network is reachable - multiple alarms per day of the week - next active alarm should work even if there's no network at the time - integrated amplifier - integrated speakers (for saving space if desired) - buttons for rudimentary operation, snooze, etc... C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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It could be something completely different! Follow... From www.seanadams.com, there's a link to 'here' (http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26806414), an article about the CEO of everyone's favourite company. The last line of the article reads: The flare for design carries over to his home life, too. I just bought a new house, and I am working on wiring up lights and cameras as part of a home automation system, Adams said. So perhaps Slim Devices will come out with home automation projects? Not as exciting as a Squeezebox, but a possibility perhaps. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Pale Blue Ego Wrote: I'm thinking the folks at Slim have been a little too quiet lately. Either they're bogged down filling orders, out blowing their recently-acquired fortunes, or working up some new stuff in the lab. Interesting - perhaps they would first focus on some most requested features like: b - Heavy-duty power supply. Lots of mods in the audiophile community suggest this is an area for possible improvement d - Front panel controls. There has been some demand for this, and the larger front panel would allow space for it. i - upgraded remote, which is actually my 2nd speculation - see below. 2 - a premium remote control dedicated to making the SB experience easier, more fun and enjoyable. It would have a bright, vivid color LCD screen at least 320 x 240 pixels. Album art and track details are displayed as the song plays. Browse by album cover is possible (touch screen?). Backlighting is essential. RF is standard, so you don't need line-of-sight. These technologies tend to be pretty expensive, so the remote might cost more than the actual SB! I'm thinking in the $300 - $500 range. A lot of people would want it, though. It's a nice upgrade for existing SB die-hards, and I'm guessing a significant number of new orders would go for the upgrade remote, too. Anyone browsing the forums sees regular requests for that stuff. Personally, an upgraded remote would be interesting to me as the Nokia 770 is not likely to be available in my country anytime soon. Unfortunately I'm in a cash crunch at the moment. I agree with Steve, there are lots of requests for a Slim boombox too. Perhaps it could be combined with a clock radio Squeezebox or perhaps it'll be a separate piece of hardware. I'll add another item for speculation: - moving SlimServer to some sort of native application with full animation and more advanced controls. How many times have we seen how come SlimServer doesn't play music on its own?, why doesn't SlimServer have a progress bar and why doesn't SlimServer show me the progress it's making when rescanning? All these would be solved by a native app. Perhaps it could be built on Firefox, much like Songbird. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's next from Slim? Speculate here.
So perhaps Slim Devices will come out with home automation projects? Well, I'm certainly interested in this, but it sure would look like a loss of focus to branch out into home automation. I concur with a prior poster that the next Squeezebox-type product will be a boombox of some sort. Ideally, it would connect to any WiFi nextwork and be able to play your own music streamed from your library over SSH. Hey, the thread does say Speculate here. :-) Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's next from Slim? Speculate here.
I agree with Steve, there are lots of requests for a Slim boombox too. Perhaps it could be combined with a clock radio Squeezebox or perhaps it'll be a separate piece of hardware. I would like a clock-radio boom-box type item. A clock, though, would have to be able to function disconnected from power and network sources. I don't want to be late to work because we had a power or network outage. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Sounds like he's possibly working on an Etch-A-Squeeze. It will draw out your Now Playing display as you are listening. -- Mike Meyer Firefly/Serenity fan. Mike Meyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Kevin O. Lepard Wrote: Well, I'm certainly interested in this, but it sure would look like a loss of focus to branch out into home automation. True. However there's nothing in the company's name that would preclude them from doing so, and there's another line in the article: Today the 25-year-old Adams has sold some 10,000 MP3 players and has a new line of networked consumer devices in the works. The article is dated 08/09/2004. The Squeezebox2 was released April 2005. It could be that that's what they are alluding to, but the wording is a new line of networked consumer devices not a new audio player. No wonder why the Slim guys keep quiet about future products. We (or at least me) will dissect the smallest crumb of info. ;-) But I agree that yes, compared to Roku, they could make a whole variety of different audio products based on the Squeezebox. Sean has said that focusing on one product keeps inventory and technical support costs low. There's definitely something to be said for that. However all evidence points to skyrocketing SB3 sales and the company seems to be hiring like crazy. There's probably enough room for new products now. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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A full-function remote would be tops on my wishlist. I used a Bose system over the weekend that had a remote with an LCD on which you could scroll through your entire collection. My SB3 is hooked up to a whole-house audio system, so I'm often not in front of the unit when I want to change tracks, etc. Although I can use my Sony Clie or laptop, to me they're not as handy as this type of dedicated remote. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Pale Blue Ego Wrote: I'm thinking the folks at Slim have been a little too quiet lately. Either they're bogged down filling orders, out blowing their recently-acquired fortunes, or working up some new stuff in the lab. Prepping for the Pandora SqueezeNetwork stuff, most likely... -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
