paulster wrote:
Here's how I do it:
cd /usr/sbin
rm squeezelite-armv5te
wget http://squeezelite.googlecode.com/files/squeezelite-armv5te
chmod 755 squeezelite-armv5te
mv squeezelite squeezelite.old
mv squeezelite-armv5te squeezelite
reboot
If anything goes wrong you have
Dirk wrote:
Hi,
I am successfully running the 0.4 Vamp (versus 0.6) because it has the
squeezeplug installer so easier to install samba and LMS but wondering
what is the easiest way to update squeezelite to the latest version.
Seems to work well so far.
Thanks
You can download the
Here's how I do it:
cd /usr/sbin
rm squeezelite-armv5te
wget http://squeezelite.googlecode.com/files/squeezelite-armv5te
chmod 755 squeezelite-armv5te
mv squeezelite squeezelite.old
mv squeezelite-armv5te squeezelite
reboot
If anything goes wrong you have your existing version left as
Hi,
I am successfully running the 0.4 Vamp (versus 0.6) because it has the
squeezeplug installer so easier to install samba and LMS but wondering
what is the easiest way to update squeezelite to the latest version.
Seems to work well so far.
Thanks
sspeed wrote:
Since the original instructions were lost with the Vortexbox website
hack I tried to rewrite them best I could at
http://www.homenetworkenabled.com/content.php?188-Logitech-SqueezeBox-replacement-for-under-30
so that it can fill in the gaps for anyone building a VAMP.
Thanks
Since the original instructions were lost with the Vortexbox website
hack I tried to rewrite them best I could at
http://www.homenetworkenabled.com/content.php?188-Logitech-SqueezeBox-replacement-for-under-30
so that it can fill in the gaps for anyone building a VAMP.
the nightfly wrote:
Just found this thread -- so, has any progress been made with getting
wi-fi up and running yet? There's simply no way I could keep such a
system hardwired to my router and hooked-up to my audio system at the
same time.
I just finished putting my VAMP together. I'm
Just found this thread -- so, has any progress been made with getting
wi-fi up and running yet? There's simply no way I could keep such a
system hardwired to my router and hooked-up to my audio system at the
same time.
I want to thank agillis and anyone else involved in getting this
solution going.
I have successfully built it and it's a perfect add-on solution if you
primarily use ipeng for your remote.
I don't know if it's been covered in previous posts in this thread but
when using the vamp build
I saw it only briefly mentioned in this forum, but Cubox has a
Squeezebox player install. Has anyone used it? If you only need S/PDIF
it seems perfect.
I was going to buy one anyway for XBMC, but might end up using it for
this if it works well.
valnar wrote:
I saw it only briefly mentioned in this forum, but Cubox has a
Squeezebox player install. Has anyone used it? If you only need S/PDIF
it seems perfect.
I was going to buy one anyway for XBMC, but might end up using it for
this if it works well.
I can't get to ssh into the new pogo E02.
It powers up and connects to the network fine. It has an IP.
The pogoplug activate webpage cannot detect it and says the ID is
invalid. WTF?
Dangit.
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It's a real shame that the Empirical Audio Off Ramp 5 uses the HiFace
(1) chipset for USB audio input, which is no good for Linux, as this
would be pretty much perfect otherwise as it also offers LVDS I2S output
which is really hard to find on other interfaces.
This apparently will change in
I saw in another thread here (the EDO one maybe?) that there is a driver
available for the HiFace 1 on Linux now and somebody compiled it for the
Touch.
If that's the case then this could possibly work on the Off-Ramp and
other interfaces/DACs using that chipset. That would be good news.
I picked up a POGO-E02 from here for $16:
http://www.adorama.com/COCPOGOP21.html?emailprice=tutm_term=Otherutm_medium=Affiliateutm_campaign=Otherutm_source=cj_404255
It is listed as a POGO-P21 on the site, but the one I received is
labelled as an E02. YMMV.
azinck3 wrote:
There are 2 big areas in which the VAMP is lacking for me:
- No display
- No control interface at the device
Those are pretty much deal-killers for me. I use my SBs as
weather-centers and bedside radios as much as anything. I also don't
have a smartphone (yes, there are
SamS wrote:
Understood. Well not really about no smartphone - ha! ;)
I thought that wand board project doesn't have a display/interface,
either? At least initially.
I haven't been following the custom hardware solution being dreamt up in
the other thread so I don't know their current
I control my VAMP from either my iPad or my PC. I have no need for a
local display and I hadn't used the one on my now dead Squeezebox for a
LONG time. :)
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Use a good quality USB DAC and you have it. :)
Yeah but I wanna run it straight into my processor via S/PDIF.
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Yeah but I wanna run it straight into my processor via S/PDIF.
Read here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97881-Community-Funded-Squeezebox-Replacement-Would-you-be-interested
epoch1970's
Yes, I've been reading through that, but I'm having a hard time
understanding how it would be fundamentally different from the DIY
device described in this thread.
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Yeah but I wanna run it straight into my processor via S/PDIF.
You need a USB to SPDIF converter. This is a really good one.
http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/24-96-USB-to-SPDIF-converter-USB-SPDIF.htm
This is a true audiophile USB to SPDIF converter.
SamS wrote:
Yes, I've been reading through that, but I'm having a hard time
understanding how it would be fundamentally different from the DIY
device described in this thread.
Exactly. That project is interesting but it really is recreating the
wheel and at a much higher projected cost.
agillis wrote:
You need a USB to SPDIF converter. This is a really good one.
http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/24-96-USB-to-SPDIF-converter-USB-SPDIF.htm
This one is pretty good for a non-async interface. It's a shame though
that because it uses the Tenor chipset it lacks 88.2kHz support.
agillis wrote:
You need a USB to SPDIF converter. This is a really good one.
http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/24-96-USB-to-SPDIF-converter-USB-SPDIF.htm
This is a true audiophile USB to SPDIF converter.
http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SOtM-USB-Digital-Interface-SOtM-USB.htm
SamS wrote:
So, I wasn't missing something obvious? What are they trying to do that
the VAMP solution does not accomodate?
There are 2 big areas in which the VAMP is lacking for me:
- No display
- No control interface at the device
Those are pretty much deal-killers for me. I use my SBs as
I'm not planning to dump my Squeezeboxen anytime soon. Probably not
until the hardware starts to die, and I hope (and pretty much expect)
that won't be for many years. As long as I still have a version of LMS
that works, the devices I have are just fine. But if the time comes that
I have to
How resilient to power-cycling is the VB? I (savagely) unplugged mine
and moved it upstairs. it didn't show up in LMS upon power-up. I
needed to log in and issue a reboot.
Not a big deal, just wondering if there's something I can tweak to have
it show up in LMS on power cycle. I want to be
I've power cycled mine a number of times and it's always shown up again
right after it finished booting. I just replaced the ethernet
connection with a WiF donglei, and it's also OK with that too.
Do you need to power it down, though? I put mine on a Kill A Watt and
it's drawing only 3 watts.
dwc wrote:
How resilient to power-cycling is the VB? I (savagely) unplugged mine
and moved it upstairs. it didn't show up in LMS upon power-up. I
needed to log in and issue a reboot.
Not a big deal, just wondering if there's something I can tweak to have
it show up in LMS on power
Love reading about this project!
I'm all for cheap, but has there been any consideration given to
maximize digital audio output from a device like this? Better PSU, or
other hardware? Even if it cost 2X+ what you've got going on here... I
would be interested if it's possible to replicate the
SamS wrote:
Love reading about this project!
I'm all for cheap, but has there been any consideration given to
maximize digital audio output from a device like this? Better PSU, or
other hardware? Even if it cost 2X+ what you've got going on here... I
would be interested if it's possible
Built my vortexbox last night. Worked great. Only snag I hit was when I
put the USB mem chip in and rebooted - I couldn't connect as root. I
thought something screwed up with the USB imager so I re-imaged. When I
got the same result the second time I woke up to the fact that I was
being shown a
dwc wrote:
So excited to have found this thread! I ordered the E02 and will see if
I can get it to play into my JVC amp that has a USB input.
Crazy ... costs 14 GBP plus 42 GBP for delivery to Europe
castalla's
agillis wrote:
VAMP 0.3 image is now up! If you are running the old image you will need
to run these commands.
fw_setenv arcNumber
fw_setenv machid dd6
New features include
- Custom kernel
- Support for the LED on the front on the PogoPlug (now goes green when
unit is running and
So excited to have found this thread! I ordered the E02 and will see if
I can get it to play into my JVC amp that has a USB input.
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VAMP 0.3 images is now up! If you running the old image you will need to
run these commands.
fw_setenv arcNumber
fw_setenv machid dd6
New features include
- Custom kernel
- Support for the LED on the front on the PogoPlug (now goes green when
unit is running and Internet is up)
- Latest
OK, I just followed the excellent step-by-step directions from the
Vortexbox.org site and got the VAMP up and running in about 20 minutes.
I am about the least Linux-knowledgeable person in the world so if I can
do it, anyone can. I'm using a Turtle Beach USB DAC for now and it
sounds pretty
This unit is white and gray not black but it's guaranteed to be an E02.
It's actually a POGO-E02G but that's the same thing.
http://www.amazon.com/Pogoplug-Media-Sharing-Device-Gray/dp/B0044CL1N0?tag=vort-20
agillis's
Did so yesterday. Now to figure out how to make a P21 useful around the
house. Too bad it won't clean the bathroom.
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Got the Pogoplug today that I ordered from the Vortexbox store
(unfortunately prior to the latest addition) and it seems to really be a
P21. The label on the foot says P21 and the cat /proc/cpuinfo says:
Processor : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 5 (v6l)
processor : 0
BogoMIPS
Good to hear you have it working. Look for more improvements in the VAMP
image in the future. I'm working on WiFi this week!
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agillis wrote:
Good to hear you have it working. Look for more improvements in the VAMP
image in the future. I'm working on WiFi this week!
Awesome. I am trying to install LMS on the same unit as I type this. But
I may not need it, since I have it running on my laptop all the time.
I bought
crooner wrote:
I will attempt building a VAMP today. I want to use with my Audioquest
Dragonfly USB DAC. I am hoping it will work fine. This DAC has a volume
control in the analog domain that is usually controlled by the Windows
operating system. It acts exactly like the regular system
Triode wrote:
Squeezelite (the player VAMP is based on) will not access any hardware
specific volume controls. It does support digital domain volume control
using the standard LMS controls. It may be that you can access the
hardware volume from linux, but this will require you to find a
I am having trouble restoring the VAMP image. I have a 4 gB USB Drive.
USB image tool keeps telling me image size is too large. What should I
do? I have run the program as an administrator and I don't want to
truncate the image for fear of losing data.
Got myself a 8GB Sansa USB drive. Hopefully it will work.
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Ok. I managed to get the image into the 8Gb USB. Now I am getting an
alsamixer error on Putty:
cannot open mixer: no such file or directory
This really sucks! Any ideas? :scratch:
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ok. Plugged the USB dac into a different USB port and it now works.
Will plug headphones and will report back!
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Got everything running smoothly!
The Audioquest Dragonfly works great on it.
Now to try to adapt the Griffin Powermate volume control to work on
it...
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agillis wrote:
I just added another link to a real POGO E02. It costs $2 more but you
know what your getting.
Thanks, I bought one from your original link, advertised as the P21 but
did receive an E02 yesterday.
agillis wrote:
The Series 4 would work ACCEPT you can't boot from the flash
I will attempt building a VAMP today. I want to use with my Audioquest
Dragonfly USB DAC. I am hoping it will work fine. This DAC has a volume
control in the analog domain that is usually controlled by the Windows
operating system. It acts exactly like the regular system volume.
With my netbook,
I just added another link to a real POGO E02. It costs $2 more but you
know what your getting.
The Series 4 would work ACCEPT you can't boot from the flash port. So
you need to add a USB hub to get another USB port to boot your USB key
from. So it costs twice as much, you need a USB hub, and
I ordered the original one from your store last weekend. We'll see what
I get. I'll post the results. I'm looking forward to the VAMP project.
All items ordered from Vortexbox store. The least I could do.
mikeh49's
On January 11, 2013 agillis
agillis.5p0...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote:
The p01 has a different processor so it's march harder to get anything
working on it. You could hack around on it or just go buy a P02 for $20.
Hi agillis, thanks for doing this and especially for documenting
[I sent this via email earlier but doesn't seem to have appeared, so
using the forum interface]
agillis wrote:
The p01 has a different processor so it's march harder to get anything
working on it. You could hack around on it or just go buy a P02 for $20.
Hi agillis, thanks for doing this and
Just an FYI...there is a thread over at head-fi that another user is
trying the same thing.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/645884/simple-low-cost-hifi-network-music-streaming-device
Thanks!
Dustin
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paulster wrote:
Three questions about it though:
1. Does it support full-speed async USB DACs without a hub, or is it
another one of these devices that does?
2. Does is support MOG when you're running a local LMS installation, or
is that one of the services that is blocked?
3. Has
paulster wrote:
I think I've answered question 2 myself. I just tried the SqueezeLite
Windows client and MOG won't work with that, so I guess it's not going
to fly on the VAMP.
That's a real shame as I like to use MOG to listen to albums before
buying them.
odd. I can play MOG on
paulster wrote:
I think I've answered question 2 myself. I just tried the SqueezeLite
Windows client and MOG won't work with that, so I guess it's not going
to fly on the VAMP.
That's a real shame as I like to use MOG to listen to albums before
buying them.
Did you install an mp3 codec?
garym wrote:
odd. I can play MOG on SqueezePlay running on my win7 laptop. So MOG can
play to a pure software player (unlike, say, Pandora).
Triode wrote:
Did you install an mp3 codec? Squeezelite windows zip does not include
libmad.dll or libmpg123.dll. If you use local player plugin
Yes the VAMP does play MOG. It can play SiriusXM, Pandora, and Spotify
as well. You need a VortexBox to get XM to work (It's a wma stream).
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Great. I'll find out in a few days. Went for the PogoPlug and HA-info
U2 to start with, since my DAC can only handle 48kHz over its USB
connection even though it's a 96kHz DAC. Then I can look at a better
SPDIF interface or a different USB DAC in future.
Does this box suffer the async
Also, have you read epoch1970's observations on kernel tweaking and
synchronisation performance a few posts about? If there are good
settings to get a reliable synchronisation setup as standard then it
might be nice to build these into the build image.
paulster wrote:
No, he didn't.
He said it was good but not perfect compared to the Logitech hardware.
But he didn't say whether he'd tried tweaking the latency for this
player to get it perfect and whether it would then drift, and also said
nothing about whether two or more VAMPs will
epoch1970 wrote:
I have tried many things
To me this is an extremely complex topic, I've
been turning dials at random so let's not consider I have the final say.
I wouldn't say it is drifting, it's more like I can't get both to align
perfectly on the same tick. I won't try synching 2 sw
paulster wrote:
The hardware players have a resync mechanism built in, and so it would
be interesting to know whether the software player also has this.
The resync mechanism is in the server and the player software. I'd
expect SqueezeLite to support that, SqueezePlay definitely does.
MarcelG wrote:
So, I got the Pogoplug. However, I didn't get the P02, I got the
Pro...the P01.
And because of that (and mostly because I no nothing about linux) I
could not follow through with the instruction you posted on
vortexbox.com, as I ran into issues with installing the
Look Ma, no echo.
I've played with the RT kernel described above. SBS and squeezelite are
running at normal prio (batch scheduling in RT parlance) and squeezelite
is reniced -5, so it comes on top of SBS, but not enough to lock itself
up. (Sox and flac are reniced +15 when they run, so they stay
This is really promising news. Thanks for doing the work on this.
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azinck3 wrote:
How good is pretty decent? As good as the sync between your Boom and
Transporter? In my experience even a slight sync problem can make sync
unusable.
According to my tests I'd say it performs fine enough for synching
across 2 separate rooms. But not exactly enough for 2
epoch1970 wrote:
According to my tests I'd say it performs fine enough for synching
across 2 separate rooms. But not exactly enough for 2 sources in the
same room.
that's too bad. I have one situation where there are two players easily
heard within the same large room so less than perfect
paulster wrote:
This looks great, and you certainly can't beat the price!
Three questions about it though:
1. Does it support full-speed async USB DACs without a hub, or is it
another one of these devices that does?
2. Does is support MOG when you're running a local LMS installation, or
paulster wrote:
I'm going to add a fourth question since sync is being discussed:
4. What's the sync like across multiple VAMP boxes? For instance if I
replace my Logitech hardware with a number of these, will they remain in
sync like the hardware players do, or can the (obviously
No, he didn't.
He said it was good but not perfect compared to the Logitech hardware.
But he didn't say whether he'd tried tweaking the latency for this
player to get it perfect and whether it would then drift, and also said
nothing about whether two or more VAMPs will retain perfect sync
paulster wrote:
No, he didn't.
He said it was good but not perfect compared to the Logitech hardware.
But he didn't say whether he'd tried tweaking the latency for this
player to get it perfect and whether it would then drift, and also said
nothing about whether two or more VAMPs will
Triode wrote:
Squeezelite implements the resync mechanism. The variation between
hardware means there is more variability between the delay the hardware
reports to the software. I've not looked at doing any tuning in this
area though.
That's great. Does that mean on identical hardware
paulster wrote:
That's great. Does that mean on identical hardware (i.e. two PogoPlugs
running SqueezeLite) the sync should be pretty much on a par with what
the hardware devices would offer then?
Not necessarily - the problem is the accuracy of the hardware reporting
latency. Don't
So, I got the Pogoplug. However, I didn't get the P02, I got the
Pro...the P01.
And because of that (and mostly because I no nothing about linux) I
could follow the instruction you posted on vortexbox.com, as I ran into
issues with installing the ./install_uboot_mtd0.sh part
So, instead
The p01 has a different processor so it's march harder to get anything
working on it. You could hack around on it or just go buy a P02 for $20.
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This looks great, and you certainly can't beat the price!
Three questions about it though:
1. Does it support full-speed async USB DACs without a hub, or is it
another one of these devices that does?
2. Does is support MOG when you're running a local LMS installation, or
is that one of the
I posted thiis via the email interface on Saturday, but I see that the
email - forum connection is broken again, so I'll repeat my comments
here.
Great project! I ordered the components right after I read this post
(PogoPlug and USB DAC). The PogoPlug arrived first, so I did the
software
I've been trying to find a Pogoplug POGOP21 (POGO-E02) but it seems
those devices are also EOL...?
All I can find are Pogoplug Pro's or the newer (and more expensive)
V3/V4 Pogoplugs.
Is VAMP compatible with those devices ?
Alternatively I may jump on the Raspberry Pi train, and hope the USB
Very interesting work. How's the sync performance between these
devices? How about sync with hardware SBs?
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On 1/1/2013 10:15 PM, agillis wrote:
There has been a lot of discussion in this forum about a replacement for
the SqueezeBox. I worked on this problem over the holiday and I think I
came up with a good solution. Using a low cost ARM based system I was
able to build a box that basically does
azinck3 wrote:
Very interesting work. How's the sync performance between these
devices? How about sync with hardware SBs?
Sync seems pretty decent with my Boom and Transporter :-)
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psketch wrote:
Sync seems pretty decent with my Boom and Transporter :-)
How good is pretty decent? As good as the sync between your Boom and
Transporter? In my experience even a slight sync problem can make sync
unusable.
Triode wrote:
Can't match $30, but another alternative is the CuBox:
http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox
One other interesting feature of this device is that it has optical
SPDIF out, so may be a good match for non-USB DACs.
re: non-USB DAC. I plan to try the VAMP solution with a Turtle Beach
USB output card. Total cost less than $60.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036VO4X4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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agillis wrote:
As for wifi this would be required to make this a true replacement for
the SqueezeBox.
No, there's a hell of a lot more than that needed to make this an actual
replacement for the Squeezebox.
- wifi
- display
- infrared receiver and remote control
- internal DAC
- analog out
-
Triode wrote:
Unfortunately that method doesn't work with my dac - setting
dwc_otg.speed=1 means it can't connect. For those dacs using less of
the usb bus its probably a good step, but I'm hoping they can fully
resolve the packet loss issue as without doing so its not really
appropriate
JJZolx wrote:
No, there's a hell of a lot more than that needed to make this an actual
replacement for the Squeezebox.
- wifi
- display
- infrared receiver and remote control
- internal DAC
- analog out
- optical S/PDIF out
- coax S/PDIF out
This is a DIY project at best.
I
With the prevelance of iPods, iPhones, and Andriod devices, I think it's
reasonable to put forth a squeezebox replacement without a display and
rely on another device for the display/control. It seems to be working
well for Sonos.
The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make
maggior wrote:
The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make that not a
completely geeky endeavour without the problems that the duet had.
Well thats not to hard use an on-board web-UI or an helper app running
on your computer or why not both like my ethernet to ir
I just wanted to shout out that I think this is a fantastic initiative
to keep the Squeezebox ecosystem alive.
The Raspberry Pi already drew my attention but I read that is has some
nasty audio quality flukes (in the current Model B version at least),
but the pogoplug in combination with a decent
agillis wrote:
The only two things I don't have is
- Display
- Infrared receiver and remote control
It would be easy to add both of these to the project but it would add
anther $130 to the cost!! Since an iPod touch v4 is only $199 why would
we want a display or remote?
I guess when
MarcelG wrote:
BTW ; if the Squeezelite package is picked up by the masses using the
pogoplugs, raspberry pi's etc
To reach the masses, you need to put it on the shelves in the local
warehouses worldwide, doing that is going to be a completely different
challenge and I believe it's also
Running a Pi with truehl's Squeezeplug for LMS and Triode's Squeezelite
via Mini Boombox - sounds great to me - no audio issues. Controllable
via Squeezeplay on PC, and Logitech controller app on android.
castalla's
Can't match $30, but another alternative is the CuBox:
http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox
I got one this morning and the sock firmware will run squeezelite and
supports usb audio and async hifi dacs. It's about 3 times the price of
the Pi, but its doing what I envisaged Squeezelite could
An alternative is cubieboard ( http://www.cubieboard.org and can bought
from here
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/all-wholesale-products/511685.html ) but
unlike cubox no nice enclosure but much cheaper US$49 and has 1Gb RAM
and a SATA disk interface.
I got one before Christmas but haven't had
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