[discuss] Re: Problem with the Open Office Text Processing
On 2011-11-15 7:54 PM NoOp wrote: I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment, but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison. That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Problem with the Open Office Text Processing
On 2011-11-15 8:59 PM NoOp wrote: On 11/15/2011 06:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-11-15 7:54 PM NoOp wrote: I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment, but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison. That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac. I think that I may have found the issue; I opened in MS Word 2002 with the MS odf extension installed and found that there is an extra section between the last text column and the references page. In other words it went from section 2 at intent of the law could be solidified. to a blank section 3, and then section 4 which is the 'Refrences' page. I deleted the section 3 and then did a saveas. Attached is the .docx from that it no longer crashes my linux OOO's or LO's. Seems odd that a blank section would cause this. Please test on the Mac. Thanks. Opens fine in OOo, LibreOffice, NeoOffice, and Pages. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Problem with the Open Office Text Processing
On 2011-11-14 9:59 PM NoOp wrote: Found an old version of Windows 2KPro on one of my virtual machines that still has OOo 3.3.0 OOO330m20 (build:9567) and opening the .docx file in that demonstrates what you probably are experiencing: only 5 pages, dual columns in pages 2-5, and no References and Biography page. On Mac OS X version 10.6.8 OOo 3.3.0, OOo-dev 3.4.0, NeoOffice 3.1.2 Patch 9, and LibreOffice 3.4.4 all crash immediatly and leave a lock file. Pages, TextEdit, and Bean all open document with references and biograpy. Again, this appears to be a a regression between 3.3.0 and OOo-Dev (3.4.0). Given the OOo - Apache conversion I'm not even sure if you can file a bug report any longer (at least I've no idea how). But hopefully someone from Apache will pick up on this post and see if they can pass it along to their devs. If I've time tomorrow I'll try to remember to file a bug report with LO. Bug reports can be filed on the Apache OOo Bugzilla – Main Page https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Fw: Improve Productivity - Upgrade Open Office
Phishing. Only download OOo from http://www.openoffice.org/ On 2011-10-31 4:17 AM Keith Borthwick wrote concerning Fw: Improve Productivity - Upgrade Open Office: Hi – Is this genuine or a phishing email? Regards. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Fw: Improve Productivity - Upgrade Open Office
On 2011-10-31 1:07 PM Rob Weir wrote: You can see this disclaimer on the website: The OP is not subscribed to the list and will not see your reply unless you cc him. Disclaimer: This website has no affiliation whatsoever with the owner of this software program and does not re-sell or license software. All software is freeware and/or shareware with the understanding that the user may need or want to pay for it later. Membership is for unlimited access to our site's resources. We provide an organized website with links to third party freeware and shareware software, technical support, tutorials and step by step guides. -Rob On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Keith Borthwick keithcborthw...@talktalk.net mailto:keithcborthw...@talktalk.net wrote: Hi – Is this genuine or a phishing email? Regards. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
On 2011-08-26 4:40 PM RA Brown wrote: Robert Derman wrote: I always thought that the mail list should have been set up so that you simply COULD NOT post to it if you weren't subscribed!! If a person is not subscribed the message goes to a moderator who can allow it through. And that is the problem. Unsubscribed posters to a mailing list who never get a reply to their question when it is sent to the mailing list. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
On 2011-08-25 7:16 PM NoOp wrote: Added point on searching vian gmane.org/nntp. Very simple search on your email address appears to first appear in 2005. You may have posted prior to that using a different email address as the gmane.org archive goes back to 2002, but my point is that it is simply easy to search by Subject or Address with an nntp mail list setup: http://imageshack.us/f/571/screenshotrepointofview.png/ In all fairness, I also done one for mine circa 2006: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/sshrinkgmanecompopenoff.png/ Can you easily quickly do that with a web based forum? Yes. I went to http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php Clicked on Advanced Search In Search for author: I entered lgusaas (my user name) Search found 816 matches _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Gmane
On 2011/03/24 9:28 PM NoOp wrote: On 03/15/2011 12:16 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: When are you going to re-enable posting through gmane without the post going through a moderator? Larry Disregard whatever I may have responded to earlier. When/if that gets through, here is what I received immediately after responding: From: SYMPAsy...@openoffice.org To: gl...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Message distribution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Sympa 5.3.3 Message-Id:20110325020934.290aaac...@mail01.openoffice.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 02:09:33 + (GMT) Your message for list discuss has been forwarded to editor(s) Your message has the header X-Sympa-To: discuss@openoffice.org which is in all posts that go through the moderator. To avoid being moderated you need to subscribe to the mailing list and then set it to nomail. For instructions send an e-mail to sy...@openoffice.org and put 'help' in the subject line. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 2011/03/18 12:10 PM Twayne wrote: In news:ilm6ba$s46$1...@dough.gmane.org, Larry Gusaaslarry.gus...@gmail.com typed: : On 2011/03/11 10:25 AM?? Twayne wrote: : In news:4d7a11a2.8020...@comporium.net, : David B Teague srdavidbtea...@comporium.net typed: :: :: :: :clipe / : : : Please post in Text mode; HTML mode shows all the stupid : HTML code and makes : reading your post fairly difficult to impossible, depending : on what client : is trying to read it. : : I have no problem reading David's original message. I do : not see any HTML code. His message is on mutli format style : with both HTML and plain text versions. If you are seeing : the HTML code when you read the message, the problem is at : your end. Configure your e-mail program to read it properly : or set it to read only the plain text version. : : Why do you use : to indicate quoted text rather than the : standard : : : : Larry Umm, I have to use that for some professional emails I work with. Often I forget to switch it back to . It's the same thing, just a different quote character. Your quotes do not indicate level of attribution. My post and the message I relied to both appear to be sent by me. Fix your client. FYI: You are posting in HTML format, not Plain Text. This prevents some reader clients from being able to display your posts in an easily readable format. My post had both HTML and Plain Text versions. Any decent e-mail client can easily read it. Quit making inaccurate statements. Your suggestion to read an email in Plain Text will only result in a blank page if the whole thing is HTML or possible a lot of garbage depending on the client. Please switch your client to send Plain Text posts. I have switched it to Plain Text for my response. There was a Plain Text version of the message I sent. If you see a bunch of garbage it is the fault of your e-mail client. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Gmane
When are you going to re-enable posting through gmane without the post going through a moderator? Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 2011/03/11 10:25 AM Twayne wrote: In news:4d7a11a2.8020...@comporium.net, David B Teague srdavidbtea...@comporium.net typed: : : : clipe / Please post in Text mode; HTML mode shows all the stupid HTML code and makes reading your post fairly difficult to impossible, depending on what client is trying to read it. I have no problem reading David's original message. I do not see any HTML code. His message is on mutli format style with both HTML and plain text versions. If you are seeing the HTML code when you read the message, the problem is at your end. Configure your e-mail program to read it properly or set it to read only the plain text version. Why do you use : to indicate quoted text rather than the standard Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 2011/03/15 2:50 PM Robert Derman wrote: David B Teague sr wrote: On 3/14/2011 10:15 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I am using an old version of Thunderbird, I don't like the new ones, they deleted some nice features. Anyway, before sending any email that has HTML, it says that the email has HTML and asks you to make the choice of sending in plain text or both. You can set up Thunderbird 3 to do the same Yes, I recall that. It was nice, and TB3 is a good big slower than earlier versions too. With TB3, I was able to prevent any HTML from going to openoffice.org domains. I don't know about TB2. TB3 on my Mac is much faster than TB2 was. It is Tbird 2.0 that I am using. on some of the later versions they made it much harder to increase the size of the text for readability. TB3 is as easy to set up for displayed text size as TB 2 was. It continues to amaze me at how much software developers can manage to unimprove good applications when they update them. -- I find TB3 to be much better than TB2. Some major bugs/defects that I had to workaround almost daitly have been fixed. Of course there are some new quirks introduced, but I would never revert to TB2. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration?
On 2011/03/11 6:12 AM David B Teague sr wrote: On 3/9/2011 2:34 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: Registering has never required an account or password. Are you sure you are using a genuine version of OpenOffice.org downloaded from www.openoffice.org ? Harold, I have been working on computers since 1978. I have been doing networking for about half that time. I know to check for genuine versions of the software. I fetched the installer from www.openoffice.org, and installed it. During the installation is said something about registering, so I put it off. I went to HELP Register This took me to Oracle's web site (YES I CHECKED) and I HAD TO CREATE AND ACCOUNT TO REGISTER. And yes, this has NEVER happened before. At least not when SUN had it. There have been several changes since Oracle acquired SUN, Java, and OO.o. That is incorrect. You had to have a Sun account to register OOo. I had no difficulty creating an account with Oracle. On the registration page I clicked on Create an Oracle.com account now. I filled in all the spaces for e-mail, password, name, etc., then clicked Create and then had an account. That the requirement for registration and account creation has not happened to you does not mean it didn't happen to me. If you don't believe me, try to register your copy of OO.o. You do not have to register OOo. If you do register, you have to create an Oracle account. *Now will someone please address the question of what benefit there is to the community to registering? Is it sufficient to fight the difficulty of navigating that damn web site? * It helps keep track of the number of users of each version of OOo. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Gone astray
On 2011/01/30 5:07 PM Pat wrote: The discussion seems to have gone astray. The choosing of, or arriving at, a particular default dictionary was, I think, the original point. The comments, while interesting and somewhat illuminating, show our digression. The discussion started about the availability of an UK English version which has all the menus, dialogues boxes, help files, etc. written with UK English spelling, not about dictionaries. The US English version already comes with UK, Canadian, Australian, and South African dictionaries. There is an English-UK version of OOo 3.3.0 rc10. It has not yet passed the quality assurance process to become the official final release. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese
[discuss] Re: 3.3 in standard English
On 2011/01/29 11:41 AM Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: Are you asking me to leave the list? No he is not. He wants to be unsubscribed from the list and is ignorant of the procedure to do so. He seems to be unable to read the instructions at the bottom of the post he replied to. This type of request occurs regularly. Sorry if I accidentally offended you. On 29 Jan 2011 at 11:03, Ralph Barone wrote: please unsubscribe Ralph barone baronera...@hotmail.com Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: 3.3 in standard English
On 2011/01/28 11:38 AM Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: To whoever is resposible for uploading 3.3 to the mirrors I can see a version that uses US regional spellings (English (US)). Nothing in standard English though. The UK version will be available after it has passed the QA process. Not all languages are immediately available upon the release of a new version of OOo. Will this be fixed? In case you think I am being pedantic, it's worth remembering that the idea of 'English' versus 'English (UK)' often seen, suggests an American-centred view of the world. The US English version of OOo comes with dictionaries for use in spell-check in Canadian, Australian, South African, UK, and US varients of English. Other dictionaries are available for download. If it had and American centred view it would only contain the US English dictionary. There's English, as spoken in most Anglophone countries in a reasonably uniform way (UK, Ireland, Australia, NZ, India, Kenya, Nigeria, Cameroon, etc), and there's the regional variations made popular by Mr Noah Webster co in USA. Each of those countries have variations in language from each other. I do accept that Webster's ideas do make sense and are easier for people learning English - but nonetheless, they are regional variations most commonly used in USA. Even my Canadian friends insist their language is 'English-UK' rather than 'English-US'. I use Canadian English which is not the same as UK English, or US English. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: 3.3 in standard English
On 2011/01/28 11:11 PM John W Kennedy wrote: On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: As a 'Canuk', I too have some problems with the English I learned in school and the English I see everyday. For example, I spell Harbour, Favourite, etc., but I think you get the gist of what I am saying, EH? (LOL) Actually, I grew up saying Eh? in Maine. These things aren't always as hard and fast as people wish them to be. Growing up in Saskatchewan, I never heard Eh?. The first I heard it was by the McKenzie Brothers. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: JRE error on iMac
On 2010/11/21 1:44 PM Guy Martin wrote: I've installed OO.o on an new iMac iCore 3 processor running Snow Leopard fully updated. When I try to use any of the Wizards or even advanced help I get the following error message: This action requires a JRE to function please install the latest JRE. I'm paraphrasing, but you get the point. I've done extensive research on the MacAddicts and everything points to the fact that a Java evnironment is part of Snow Leopard. How then do I solve this problem since I don't intend to use any Microsoft products on my computer? The problem has been fixed in the latest release candidates of OOo 3.3 OO.o 3.3 RC6 is being uploaded to the mirrors and is available on some mirrors now. It will be available soon at http://download.openoffice.org/index.html OOo 3.3 should be out in the next week or two. To patch OOo3.2.1 to work with the new Java version Apple recently released see: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/computer_tagebuch.php -- - Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Oracle dropping OO.org and joining the community...
On 2010/10/28 6:07 AM Peter Lairo wrote: On Mon. 11.10.2010 20:24, RA Brown wrote: There is a users forum at http://libreofficeforum.org/forum . I can't stand forums. Is there also a newsgroup (NNTP) for LibreOffice? See list of mailing lists (most are available through gmane). http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ -- - Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Oracle [NOT!] dropping OO.org
On 2010/10/15 7:05 PM jonathon wrote: On 10/15/2010 11:52 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: References please, or is this just your speculation? Go back to the speech Larry made about purchasing FLOSS companies, for the sole purpose of owning, and monetizing FLOSS. Reference please. Oracle OpenOffice is closed source, and utilizes OOo's code base. Yes. And Oracle very recently stated their commitment to develop OOo and to open source. See http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/177158 -- _ Larry I. Gusaas * Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese * - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Oracle [NOT!] dropping OO.org
On 2010/10/14 11:14 PM Marius Popa wrote: Is OpenOffice.org a dead project? No. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas * Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese * - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Oracle [NOT!] dropping OO.org
On 2010/10/14 11:26 PM Marius Popa wrote: But I have read this morning onwww.computeractive.co.uk that LibreOffice replaces OpenOffice.org. Will OpenOffice.org exist alongside LibreOffice? Read the article more carefully. It does not say that. Also read this thread more carefully. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas * Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese * - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: OOo Icons
On 2010/09/25 11:02 AM Harold Fuchs wrote: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote in message news:4c9e116a.8070...@onr.com... On 9/25/2010 3:14 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: Gentlepeople, In us...@openoffice.org Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org said, about OOo 3.2's icons: === begin quote === Obviously someone on the OOo development team simply doesn't care how badly they screw things up for users (as evidenced by the brain-dead decision to switch from colored icons to greyscale)... === end quote === I have the latest (3.2.1, is that the latest?) OOo on Vista Home Premium and on Win XP Pro. The icons are *not* greyscale, they are coloured. What am I missing, please. As I understand it, the icons in question are those that represent the OOo component (that is, those for Writer, Calc, etc.) -- not the ones in toolbars, for example. What do you see for these? Not sure what you mean; I only have the Quickstarter in my System Tray and do everything from there. Ah. If I create a shortcut on my desktop for, say, Writer then that shortcut has an icon that is blue, white and grey. The icon is two circles. The larger is for Writer as opposed to Calc or Impress or It is grey and white. The other, smaller circle partly overlaps the larger at about 10 o'clock. It represents OOo (two birds) and is blue and white. The Calc shortcut has the same smaller circle as Writer's but a different larger one although that too is grey and white. Is this what the debate is about? The debate is about the icon with each file. The icon with each file,sample.odt, sample.odp, sample.ods, are all greyscale rather than different colours as in earlier versions of OOo making it harder to quickly tell which file to open. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: ongoing bugs
On 2010/08/15 2:26 PM miki z wrote concerning ongoing bugs: For 2 years I've been telling you people about 20 major basic bugs in your Writer, which you have ignored, your latest release still contains them, including 1. skipping Hebrew letter - number 2. automatic save doesn't work, etc. When will you get to it? Perhaps they will listen to you!! What are the issue numbers for the bugs you reported on http://qa.openoffice.org ? -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: it's really hard to read the menu headers - please fix that
On 2010/07/06 11:18 AM Mike Scott wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: Mike Scott wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: . By the way, please respond only to the list (discuss@openoffice.org), so others can help as needed. Unless you cc'd the OP, they won't see any of this anyway yet another unsubscribed user. (I don't think they've used gmane.) I did copy the OP (as another To:). When I respond to an unsubscribed user, as in this case, I generally include a statement at the top that That's good, except others can't see that you've done this! Yes they can. Read the bloody headers before you make such a ridiculous statement. Here is a copy of the headers from her message: Subject: Re: it's really hard to read the menu headers - please fix that Date:Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:16:15 -0500 From:Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Reply-To:discuss@openoffice.org To: discuss@openoffice.org, catfan...@netzero.net She replied to the original poster as is obvious to anyone who looked at the headers. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Sorry, Please Ignore
On 2010/06/18 4:28 AM Harold Fuchs wrote: Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk wrote in message news:4c1b48fe.60...@scottsonline.org.uk... Harold Fuchs wrote: Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@googlemail.com wrote in message news:... I apologise for this but I'm having some sort of trouble with replying to messages in this list via Gmane so I'm testing to see if a new post arrives. I've successfully posted to gmane.test using this same address so I know my ISP isn't blocking gmane. If anyone reads this and has any ideas about solving my problem, please let me know. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Checking to see if Reply works. Seems to :-) But it seems to have created a new thread (I'm receiving list email and reading with TB). -- Mike Scott mike at removeme.scottsonline.org.uk Harlow Essex England Mike, thanks. I'm narrowing down the problem; seems to be that the gmane group for discuss@openoffice.org (openoffice.general) is OK for me but the one for users@ (openoffice.questions) isn't. It's weird because they are both subscribed via the same NNTP account. I receive messages in both but can't send/reply to openoffice.questions. Did you respond to the message you received the first time you posted to openoffice.questions? You have to confirm message for every group you post to. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Sorry, Please Ignore
On 2010/06/18 2:59 PM Gordon wrote: Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote in message news:hvgia8$le...@dough.gmane.org... Did you respond to the message you received the first time you posted to openoffice.questions? You have to confirm message for every group you post to. Harold's been posting here for years Not through Gmane. Read his earlier posts and you would understand the problem. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Question
On 2010/06/07 12:19 AM Marius Popa wrote: When I meant portable device, I referred to an external hard disk. So how can I install a language pack for English (UK) for working with OpenOffice 3.2.1 Portable on my external hard disk? I gather it isn't the PortableApps version since they don't have 3.2.1 yet. Where did it get it from? Since portable versions work a bit different than the regular version you get from http://download.openoffice.org/, you should probably ask the source you got it from how to install language packs in it. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Open Office
On 2010/05/10 4:15 PM Bruce Martin wrote: You should be able to pump it with files by adding a firewire or firewire 800 card and the appropriate type of cable. No Firewire on the iPad. It syncs with your computer with USB and through iTunes. Read about the iPad specs before making uninformed statements. http://www.apple.com/ipad/ -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: OOo
On 2010/05/07 7:23 PM EDWARD KNOLL wrote: Where can I download older versions of openoffice.org? such as 2.4 or 3.0?? http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/openoffice-archive/stable/ -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Oracle now charging $90 for Sun ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office
On 2010/04/20 1:12 PM NoOp wrote: On 04/20/2010 06:53 AM, John W Kennedy wrote: On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Sean Carlos wrote: It's free here: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ Get it now FREE button but bait and switch, $90 here: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp $9000, actually, since they have a minimum order of 100. They're also charging, also with minimum orders, for what they call Oracle Open Office. Wow, you're correct: https://shop.oracle.com/pls/ostore/product?p1=oracleofficesc=ocom_openoffice Actually, only partially correct. There is a Oracle Open Office Standard Edition (Perpetual License) that has a minimum quantity of 1 and sells for C$56.00 (probably US$50.00) -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Official request to the community council
On 2010/04/18 11:52 AM John W Kennedy wrote: On the Mac, the icon for a non-graphics file is a miniature of the first page of the document, if that is meaningful, badged near the bottom with TXT PDF, etc., if the operating system knows how to do it. That only happens if you have Show icon preview checked in the view options. I don't use that option. It is much more useful for me to see the program icon for opening that file. The new ODF icons are practically useless for that purpose. The icons should indicate the program opening that file. The new icons are useless for that purpose. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Official request to the community council
On 2010/04/18 12:53 PM Bernhard Dippold wrote: Larry Gusaas schrieb: On 2010/04/18 11:52 AM John W Kennedy wrote: On the Mac, the icon for a non-graphics file is a miniature of the first page of the document, if that is meaningful, badged near the bottom with TXT PDF, etc., if the operating system knows how to do it. That only happens if you have Show icon preview checked in the view options. I don't use that option. It is much more useful for me to see the program icon for opening that file. The new ODF icons are practically useless for that purpose. The icons should indicate the program opening that file. The new icons are useless for that purpose. It's on purpose that they don't show any symbol for the application opening the document. In the eyes of the supporters of these ODF icons it is crucial to transport via the icons the information that ODF is application independent. And that makes them useless. Icons need to identify what is opening the file. There is no indication of which component of OOo will open the file. Indeed there is no indication of the actual file type (.odt, .ott, .odm, .ods, .ots, .odg, .otg, .odp, .otp, .odf, .odb). The purpose of an icon is to identify specific file types and the application on your computer that will open them, not use a generic ODF label for everything. As this decision has not been discussed and decided in the community, I asked the CC to decide on this topic. They should change this decision. The imposition of the design of these icons by the ODF cabal lessons the functionality of OOo. Their imposition of the design without the consultation of the community reeks of the stench of an oligarchy. This has no place in a democratic open source project. As alternative and possible compromise I added the new OOo symbol to the right lower corner of the icons: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:ODF_textdocument_different_sizes_S.png If you added a separate colour for each file type it would be useful. Otherwise it provides little increase in functionality. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Ia2 Support seems along time coming.
On 2010/03/22 4:44 PM Kevin Cussick wrote: Is there any likelihood of ia2 support happening in open office this year? What is ia2? Is it this? Dense-core vesicle proteins IA-2 and IA-2β affect renin synthesis and secretion through the β-adrenergic pathway -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Thought i could help by joining mailing list. I just downloaded the program
On 2010/03/20 9:20 AM Michael wrote: I followed this list via Usenet for the longest time before I realized it was also accessible as a mailing list. My question is, how common is it for mailing lists to be accessible via Usenet? The following is from http://www.gmane.com/ .Note the 12,120 mailing lists subscribed. Gmane is a mailing list archive. Any public mailing list can be carried by Gmane, but the vast majority of the lists here deal with free software. For more information about the project, read the about page. There are currently *12,120 mailing lists* subscribed to Gmane, with a total of 94,461,335 messages. This one is the only one that I use that does this. I also think this is (partially) some of the reason for the confusion for some of the readers. Why would it cause confusion? Works well for me and anyone else using gmane. Related, of all of the mailing lists I belong to, this is the only one where people who are NOT subscribed can send and post messages. This makes no sense to me whatsoever. Agreed. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Fwd: Anyone can post disabled
On 2010/03/20 2:49 PM Michael wrote: Above is a message I found int he gmane.test.yahoo newsgroup. Would someone please explain to me why a test group is limited to only subscribers, yet you need to be subscribed to gmane.comp.openoffice.general before you can post to it? This makes no sense to me. Why not go to gmane for the answer. If you looked on their website you would fine the answer. Go to the page Posting Messages http://gmane.org/post.php -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Thought i could help by joining mailing list. I just downloaded the program
On 2010/03/19 2:01 PM Michael Adams wrote: On Saturday 20 March 2010 03:39, Dave Barton wrote: Michael wrote: [snip] There seems to be some incongruency here. I see that the email for this list is disc...@openoffice.org. However, I monitor the list through gmane on usenet and the newsgroup name is gmane.comp.openoffice.general. After scanning through the list of available newsgroups containing 'openoffice', the gmane.comp.openoffice.general seems to be the the help/users lists. If this is not it, what one should I be using? gmane.comp.openoffice.questions Increasingly due to this and other issues, I am coming to see gmane as broken for anyone seriously attempting to help on these lists. What new issue? Gmane has always called the users list questions. This is quite clear on the OO.o support page and on gmane as well. I would never go back to using the mail list. I do not see anything as broken using gmane. AFAICT it is impossible through gmane to sort unsubscribed users. This new issue, though it may only be one of confusion, only serves to support my belief. Look for Delivered-To: moderator for ... in the message header. Almost all of us have a normal email client which allows sorting of mails to sub-folders based on From: and other filter methods. This seems the better method to me IMHO. Some newsgroup readers can sort for the header. Some (Thunderbird for one) can't. The real problem is allowing unsubscribed posts to the mailing list. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Popups, oh I hate popups
On 2010/03/17 8:29 AM Ugly Person wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Gusaas Go to View/Toolbars and uncheck Bullets and Numbering. Quit OO.o. The joke's on me. There is no such option! On the Menu bar click 'View' to get drop down menu. Then move your cursor to 'Toolbars' which will give you another drop down menu. Click on 'Bullets and Numbering' to unselect that toolbar. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Popups, oh I hate popups
On 2010/03/16 4:34 PM Ugly Person wrote: Okay this time it's not popup ADVERTISING but still... it's annoying. I wanted to wait until I had an example. So I'm editing a file in Writer and a small window pops up that says Bullets and Numbering. It's true, there were bullets in the document, but if I wanted something to swoop down like this I would have asked for it. Instead I'd like to take a bullet of my own to it. Aside from that it's probably an easy fix for shutting off (I hope) if I could only find it. Any idea? (Yes this has been happening in previous versions, not just 3.3). Go to View/Toolbars and uncheck Bullets and Numbering. Quit OO.o. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Annoying problem
On 2010/03/09 10:36 AM Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Or maybe we should just replace all the OpenOffice.org lists by an OpenOffice.org forum instead. There already is one.http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php I visit it regularly to give support to Mac users. I don't have to deal with the ridiculous policy the email lists have of allowing unsubscribed posters. It is a much better source of help for new users than a mailing list. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Mac PPC version? Where did it go?
On 2010/02/26 3:10 AM Efrem Mc wrote: I am using a Mac PPC version on Mac OS X 10.5 (Mac G4). I wanted to use OO 3.x. I have a Linux partition but wanted to use on the Mac side. If this is not going to ever be available, please let me know. Due to a lack of volunteers doing Quality Assurance, OO.o 3.2 has not been QA. OO.o 3.2 RC5 , which is the same as the final version is available from good-day for Mac PPCs in multiple languages. http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/ NOTE: the site is temporarily down. Try it later. -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query. To subscribe send an email to discuss-subscr...@openoffice.org Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Open Office problem
On 2010/02/19 12:45 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: My*real* motive in posting was to point out an error in their assumption of privacyas I said in my post. You must have missed it. Since the original poster is not subscribed to the mailing list, they did not see your message or any of the bickering that followed. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Open Office problem/ Help-seekers
On 2010/02/19 4:14 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: 1) Did somebody complain about lack or privacy in regard to a post? Do many contributors have the expectation or presumption of a measure of privacy that simply does not exist? A previous poster asked to be replied to off list as they were concerned about their privacy. I posted pointing out that this is a public list read and archived worldwide. This points out the real problem - allowing posts from people who are not subscribed to the mailing lists. The OP is not subscribed to this list and probably was not aware they were posting to a mailing list. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Moving lists to 'new' Nabble
On 2010/02/14 2:41 PM Paul wrote: Dear Paul: This is Bruce Martin in the vicinity of Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Having read your announcement of the migration, does this mean I need to set myself up with a different NNTP server? If, so do you have (could you announce) the new NNTP URL, please? I've no idea on how nabble works (never used it). Do you currently access Nabble through NNTP? Nabble has nothing to do with NNTP. It carries many mailing list to view online and to post to through their interface online Many OO.o lists are also carried on Gmane for NNTP access. The two have no relation to each other. A quick search indicates that it may not be possible moving forward ( http://n2.nabble.com/Accessing-via-NNTP-tc2292997.html) That post is about accessing a specific mail list that nabble carrries, not about accessing nabble itself. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Oppen Office for iPad ?
On 2010/01/31 5:52 PM Alexandro Colorado wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- clipped garbage / Maybe it's not possible.. I'm very interested in selling my Macbook for an iPad, but without any office suite, it would be difficult to work with it (I'm a student, and I would use it to take my lessons) even if iWorks exist for ipad, I need an application which would be able to write and read .doc and .ppt documents. There will be iWorks for the iPad. iWorks on a Mac reads and writes MS Office documents. I understand it will do the same on the iPad. It should handle everything you need at class. I would still want a computer at home as well. I think my next upgrade will be an iMac and an iPad instead of getting a MacBook Pro. Watching Computer Action show they showed a much better option with OpenOffice.org for much less :) http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ A cheap netbook as a replacement for a MacBook? Ridiculous! Save some money instead of getting an iPad and get a far inferior product. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: open office - language issue
On 2009/12/29 6:49 AM DrNoiZ wrote: but as I was downloading the Greek version for windows found out that there is a version in macedonian language. As I can recall there is no such language recognized in the whole world. Macedonian is the official language of Republic of Macedonia. Most United Nations member countries have recognised the country as the Republic of Macedonia. These include four of the five permanent UN Security Council members—the United States, Russia, United Kingdom and the People's Republic of China; several members of the European Union such as Bulgaria, Poland, and Slovenia; and over 100 other UN members. It is only hate-mongering, narrow minded bigots that deny this. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes
On 2009/12/22 5:20 PM Barbara Duprey wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: I've discovered what is happening. There is some quirk in Thunderbird that causes its from address to be wrongly set under some circumstances. I have separate TB accounts, each with its own address It seems that sending from one sometimes uses the address of another. I haven't yet figured out what causes this. My recent unmoderated message was sent from this [subscribed] account, using the Reply button but another [unsubscribed] account's address was used as the From address. Ho hum. Hopefully this will be unmoderated. Nope -- also from the googlemail account, also moderated. Your outgoing SMTP server is usually the same for all accounts, Thunderbird seems to dislike trying to use different ones. Might that have something to do with it? When sending an email through a google mail account with Thunderbird, you need to send through a SMTP server set to the name of your Googlemail account. If you send from through a SMTP server set to a different Googlemail account, Googlemail changes the from address to the name of the account you sent through. This is one of the peculiarities of gmail. Thunderbird easily handles using multiple SMTP servers. I have nine different ones. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Who is William W Austin?
On 2009/12/19 3:34 PM Rob Clement wrote: On 19/12/2009 13:51, Gordon wrote: Rob Clement wrote: it seems that this person keeps sending the same e-mails with dats in 2006 and 2007. I have received them for about the third time today. I've emailed him direct. Gordon I tried that and the reply failed. The address does not exist Rob The emails are not from him. They are being forwarded to the list by Mary Compton mcspi...@centurytel.net. You really should look to the from header. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Unable to create ANY NEW .odt, .ods, .od* files in OOo 3.1
Why are you sending copies of all these old emails to the list? On 2009/12/19 2:57 PM Mary Compton wrote: - Original Message - From: William W. Austin waus...@speakeasy.net To: discuss@openoffice.org Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: [discuss] Unable to create ANY NEW .odt, .ods, .od* files in OOo 3.1 -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: MyODBC - OOo base connectivity question on fedora linux fc 6
On 2009/12/19 5:32 PM Rob Clement wrote: On 17/04/2007 23:16, William W. Austin wrote: clip / Larry here is one of the original e-mails from William W Austin. Please note the date Rob Yes I noted the date of this old message that Mary Compton forwarded to the list. Look at the message headers and you will see that she forwarded it to the list. Here they are: From: Mary Comptonmcspi...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: MyODBC - OOo base connectivity question on fedora linux fc 6 Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:55:22 -0600 To:discuss@openoffice.org,waus...@speakeasy.net Reply-To: discuss@openoffice.org -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: MyODBC - OOo base connectivity question on fedora linux fc 6
On 2009/12/19 5:57 PM Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2009/12/19 5:32 PM Rob Clement wrote: On 17/04/2007 23:16, William W. Austin wrote: clip / Larry here is one of the original e-mails from William W Austin. Please note the date Rob Yes I noted the date of this old message that Mary Compton forwarded to the list. Look at the message headers and you will see that she forwarded it to the list. Here they are: From: Mary Comptonmcspi...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: MyODBC - OOo base connectivity question on fedora linux fc 6 Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:55:22 -0600 To:discuss@openoffice.org,waus...@speakeasy.net Reply-To: discuss@openoffice.org My Apologies. I thought you were referring to the post forwarded by Mary Compton. I had not seen the recent ones from William W Austin since my newsreader does not keep posts that old. (I follow the list as a newsgroup through gmane rather than as a mailing list. I did some investigating and searched the mailing list archive. http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=discusssearchText=William+W.+AustindefaultField=authorresultsPerPage=40offset=41limit=80forward=false All the 2009/12/14-19 posts by him are copies of old posts he made at the indicated send date. For some reasons, all these old posts are being sent out again to the mailing list. The most recent current post by him was on 2009/07/19 Unable to create ANY NEW .odt, .ods, .od* files in OOo 3.1 which was sent again on 2009/12/14. The newest post previous to that one was sent on 2007/12/17. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes
On 2009/12/18 7:48 PM PatrickG wrote: The only commonality I see in the unsubbed unsubscribe me requests is that several appear to ocome via Gmane. Do they have the header X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/; ? All posts made through gmane include that header. With that in mind, I posted a reply to this message via an unsubbed address (which is unfortunately going to cause a duplicate reply). Posting this way, there is no indication to the poster that they are subscribing to a mailing list vice posting to a newslist/forum. That is because you are not subscribing to a mailing list. You will get no emails from the list. Messages are read using your newsreader, and posts are made through gmane. clip / And from replying to the confirmation email: You are now authorized to post to the gmane.comp.openoffice.general newsgroup. The original message you sent to the newsgroup will be posted within ten minutes. And now you can post to the newsgroup using your newsreader. All posts to the newsgroup are forwarded to the mailing list. You are not subscribed to the mailing list. Using gmane has nothing to do with subscribing or unsubscribing to the mailing list. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Spelling checker not working
On 2009/12/15 3:50 PM nthnhrvy wrote: I don't know why, but the spelling checker does not work at all in the latest version of OpenOffice (3.1.1). I sure hope someone can fix it before the next release. Spell check works in OO.o 3.1.1. Yours might not be set up properly. Have a look at this: [Tutorial] Spell check and Language configuration http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=67 If you can't solve the problem, send further explicit details about what the problem is and what you have tried to resolve it. The users mailing list is a better place to ask for help. us...@openoffice.org users-subscr...@openoffice.org -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query.To subscribe send an email to discuss-subscr...@openoffice.org Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: For Attention of NoOp (gl...@sbcglobal.net)
On 2009/11/18 9:15 PM NoOp wrote: On 11/18/2009 07:11 PM, NoOp wrote: On 11/18/2009 03:08 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: NoOp, Are you subscribed to disc...@openoffice.org? Please do so as we are trying to move the discussions about unsubscribed users there and I for one don't want to lose your contributions to those discussions. Seems that you had Followup-To set to discuss@openoffice.org I've changed it back to users. Let's see if this gets to the users list. Well that didn't work. Perhaps eventually Harold will show up. Apologies to all on the discuss list. The OO.o lists reset the Reply-to header to the address of the list the message is posted to regardless of what the OP set it to in his post. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking et OpenOffice.org
On 2009/11/15 1:03 AM Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le 15.11.2009 02:38, NoOp a écrit : On 11/14/2009 09:15 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Bonjour, Est-ce que quelqu'un a un retour d'expérience récent sur l'usage du logiciel de dictée Dragon Naturally Speaking avec OpenOffice.org Writer ? Bonne fin de journée JBF Don't know... I don't speak French. :-) Remind me why you're posting in French to the english language discuss list. Because I sent this message *only* to disc...@fr and us...@fr I did not receive my messages through discuss or users EN lists, only your answers. My question is not in archives of discuss@openoffice.org (http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=discussby=datefrom=2009-11-01to=2009-11-30first=1count=45) It is not in archives of us...@openoffice.org (http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=usersfrom=2009-11-01to=2009-11-30count=475by=datefirst=1windowSize=1000) Please where did you read my messages ? Perhaps a problem with gmane ? JBF gmane seems to have had a hiccup. I saw your original post also. I, as well as NoOp, receive this list as a newsgroup through gmane. The archives at gmane do not show your original post either. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: stable release for English Mac OSX PPC
On 2009/09/28 12:38 PM John Mendenhall wrote: I currently use a mac OSX PPC G3. I currently use ooo 2.4.0. Is there any chance a stable release for English Mac OSX PPC could be created for 3.x? Due to lack of volunteers, OO.o 3.x for Mac PPC hasn't gone through the QA process. The release candidates are available from good-day. http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/ The US English versions do not have _en-US in the filname. OO.o 3.x requires Mac OS 10.4 or 10.5 Here is a direct link to download the US English version of OO.o 3.1.1 http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.1.1rc2_20090827/OOo_3.1.1rc2_20090827_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Product Registration
On 2009/09/01 5:00 PM Cor Nouws wrote: Fine - I tried this evening, but am confronted with the 35 questions long questionaire. Not what I want to do with every version I install :-) There is no requirement to complete the questionnaire. Just skip it, the registration is already completed. 8-) -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Cut Paste
On 2009/07/15 8:31 PM Ugly Sean wrote: couchdoug...@aol.com wrote: I've been listening to this thread for a bit. Funny. I had the volume turned down. I'm hearing you say copy and paste...but the details of exactly what procedure you're using to copy and paste are yet unclear. Seriously though, folks, it's a flustrating ordeal. I don't pretend to be an OOo pro but I've been around for a bit and cut/copy/paste seems to be a standard across many computers. Which is to say, you use CTL (Control) -X for cut, CTL-C for copy and CTL-V for paste, and the computer will copy text, cut (delete) it if it's not read-only, and paste, again if it's not read-only. So what I did was copy the text from the web page, and pasted it into OOo Writer. Unfortunately, Writer only seems to acknowledge the first page. From what you are saying it is probable that the issue yo are having a problem with arises from your copy-paste procedure, rather than from a program glitch. LOL! I haven't encountered this with any other program except maybe Notepad which is notoriously limited. Perhaps if you would share exactly what that process is for you, keystroke by keysroke, click by click. How are you selecting what you want to copy? etc etc. I can't be any clearer than that except to come over to your place and show you. Copy and paste works fine for me. I tried it copying web pages using Firefox, Opera, and Safari. Pasting them into OpenOffice.org 3.1.0 pasted the whole web page. (30 some pages from my test site. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: 3.1 vs. 3.2
On 2009/06/25 12:40 AM Michael Adams wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:19:05 -0400 Came this utterance formulated by Ugly Sean to my mailbox: So you're saying that 3.2 and 3.11 (which I didn't locate) work more or less the same for now. Nope, what i am saying is neither of them has been released yet. When it is released it will be 3.1.1 BTW. The developer snapshot OOO310m13 will eventually become OO.o 3.1.1 The developer snapshot DEV300_m50 will eventually become branch and become OO.o 3.2 -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: landscape printing
On 2009/06/20 8:46 PM Dwight Clough wrote: I notice that when I print landscape formatted pages in 3.1.0, I lose most of my left margin. I don't recall that ever happening with earlier versions. Is this a bug? I'm using XP and a Samsung laser printer. Haven't tried it with my HP laser yet. Dwight I have a similar problem on a Mac. I lose part of the top and right margins. I reported a bug. Have a look and add your comments related to Windows. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102485 -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: unsubscribe me
On 2009/05/15 4:24 PM richard horn wrote: I have tried your Unsubscribe address and it was rejected. Please unsubscribe me. Thank you Email: oldsa...@cox.ne You are not subscribed from this address. You have to unsubscribe by sending and email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org from the address you are subscribed at. Look at Delivered-to: in the headers of this message to see what address you subscribed with. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Hijacked thread. Was how about a note taking program?, originally symbols option
On 2009/03/18 2:08 AM Alan Lord (News) wrote: Twayne wrote: jonathon wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:41, Johnny II G. Pamintuan wrote: Microsoft's OneNote 2007. a) EverNote; b)TikiWiki or TomBoy; (These are available for Linux, BSD, Windows,and Mac. Functionality on the latter two is not guaranteed. ) c)Exactly what functionality does OneNote offer,that you haven't been able to find within OOo? jonathon Pls take this to a new thread! Hijacking a thread is rude, crude and not allowed. Huh? He didn't hijack the thread. He made some suggestions for alternative note taking solutions. This thread was hijacked by Johnny II G. Pamintuan. He replied to a email with the subject symbols option and changed the subject to how about a note taking program? instead of starting a new thread. This show in the headers if you had bothered to check. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: background page color
On 2009/03/04 8:48 AM Rick wrote: I'm using gmane openoffice general. Maybe the User List is also on gmane. I hadn't noticed it the last time I looked. I prefer the news groups. The User list on gmane is known as: gmane.comp.openoffice.questions -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Download does not work
On 2009/01/27 1:36 PM Jay Sluyter wrote: Using PPC running Leopard (most current version) and after downloading Open Office it will not run. It appears that I have to use ver 2.4 since I don't have an Intel processor. After I move the download into the App folder I get a text edit message in X11 that says something like Bash 3.2$ and then nothing happens. OO.o 3.0.1 was released today. The Mac PPC version is available from the good-day site. Pick the user language of your choice. Note: 3.0.1 RC2 is the same as the final release version. Note: The US English version does not have _en-US in the filename. The US English filename is OOo_3.0.1rc2_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query.To subscribe send an email to discuss-subscr...@openoffice.org The us...@openoffice.org is the list normally used for support questions users-subscr...@openoffice.org Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Download does not work
Amended: Forgot to include good-day's address --- On 2009/01/27 1:36 PM Jay Sluyter wrote: Using PPC running Leopard (most current version) and after downloading Open Office it will not run. It appears that I have to use ver 2.4 since I don't have an Intel processor. After I move the download into the App folder I get a text edit message in X11 that says something like Bash 3.2$ and then nothing happens. OO.o 3.0.1 was released today. The Mac PPC version is available from the good-day site. Pick the user language of your choice. Note: 3.0.1 RC2 is the same as the final release version. Note: The US English version does not have _en-US in the filename. The US English filename is OOo_3.0.1rc2_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.0.1rc2/ -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query.To subscribe send an email to discuss-subscr...@openoffice.org The us...@openoffice.org is the list normally used for support questions users-subscr...@openoffice.org Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Microsoft Outlook equivalent?
Bill Bailey, 2008/09/15 10:08 AM: Does Thunderbird support multiple email accounts like Windows Live Mail? Thunderbird supports multiple email accounts. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Sub points
accounts, 2008/08/01 10:01 AM: PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS FROM ALL YOUR LISTINGS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have to unsubscribe yourself. Sending multiple requests to the list accomplishes nothing. It only show your ignorance and pisses people off. The unsubscribe address is at the bottom of every email you receive from this list. Note: You have send from the address you are subscribed with and also respond to the confirmation email you will receive. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: MAC O/S X 10.5.4 I get an ERROR when opening Open Office
Roger, 2008/07/24 10:11 AM: I went to this link http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/Releases I then downloaded the latest X11 X11 2.3.0 - 2008.07.19 Now things are worse than before! I try to open my Open Office, I get the bash-3.2$prompt and nothing else! Why is the Open Office now NOT opening? Please help ! Thanks I am frustrated Go to Shaun McDonald's blog and follow the instructions there. It worked for me to get OO.o 2.4.1 working on Leopard, although I normally use OO.o 3 Beta. http://shaunmcdonald131.blogspot.com/2008/03/ooo-possible-fix-for-command-timed-out.html Note: Please Intespers/Bottom Post on this list. Guy Voets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/7/23 Larry Gusaas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Guy Voets, 2008/07/21 10:46 AM:snip There are more regular updates available at http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/galerie.htm that may (or may not) work better with Leopard and OpenOffice.org Don't you mean http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/Releases ? Also, if ti still doesn't work , try Shaun McDonald's hack. It worked for me. http://shaunmcdonald131.blogspot.com/2008/03/ooo-possible-fix-for-command-timed-out.html Sorry, wrong link, I didn't verify what I copied... I gave up on the X11 altogether and am now happy with the beta-2 aqua -- Guy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: MAC O/S X 10.5.4 I get an ERROR when opening Open Office
Guy Voets, 2008/07/21 10:46 AM: 2008/7/15 Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all,I just installed the Open Office on my brand new iMac. When I attempt to initialize the Open Office Program, I get this prompt: bash-3.2$ I then do not see anything elase opening. I then close the prompt, and then I click on the OpenOffice again, then it takes about 90 seconds to initialize.Is this normal ? Please help, and thanks in advance. Hello Roger, The prompt is in the xterm window of the X11 utility that OpenOffice.org needs to run on your Mac. The X11 or XQuartz that comes with Leopard (OSX 10.5.x, your operating system) is different from the X11 that runs on Tiger (the previous Mac OS 10.4.x) and it isn't yet entirely bugsfree. The developers are busy with it, and you get updates with Apple's automagic Software Update. There are more regular updates available at http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/galerie.htm that may (or may not) work better with Leopard and OpenOffice.org Don't you mean http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/Releases ? Also, if ti still doesn't work , try Shaun McDonald's hack. It worked for me. http://shaunmcdonald131.blogspot.com/2008/03/ooo-possible-fix-for-command-timed-out.html -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: PDF forms
P. De Buck, 2008/06/19 12:42 AM: Is there any other more active newsgroup for these kind of 'How to' questions? The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list also available through gmane at gmane.comp.openoffice.questions -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: No Templates In Open Office
On 2008/05/11 8:03 PM, NoOp wrote: On 05/11/2008 06:53 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Should look further: http://opentemplate.org/ Ah... it comes up now. Perhaps they were having a server problem when I checked. Thanks. Not a server problem. It's a different URL. The one you were referring to, which Mr.Colorado first mentioned, was http://opentemplates.org/. Now he has given us a different URL (without the s). Perhaps he thinks we are psychic and will know to drop the s in the URL to get more information. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Your mail has not reached World Of Power
On 2008/04/29 5:14 PM, Twayne wrote: On 04/29/2008 10:18 AM, Twayne wrote: OK, I think this page explains it all: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Explains what? Where it might come from, what to do about it, whom to notify, etc.; just read it and use it. What does it explain? I don't see anything about dealing with the automated responses the list has been receiving, other than the contact address for the list owner. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Simple Typo
On 2008/03/13 6:33 PM, Claus Agerskov wrote: Stan Goodman wrote: SBernheart wrote: ... The sub-title of the titled 'Math' page reads, Create equations and formulae for your documents. Shouldn't it read Create equations and formulas for your documents, where the word formulas' is corrected? Formula is a Latin word. formulae is its Latin plural, and formulas is its English plural. There is nothing wrong with the OOo page, it is not a typo, and no fix is required. It is not a mathematical question at all. Since when is main language of the OOo home page Latin? Both formulae and formulas are listed as the plurals of formula in English dictionaries. Perhaps you should have opened one before asking your question. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Attention
On 2008/03/09 1:24 PM, Gordon wrote: Datatude wrote: On 2008-03-09 2:12 PM, Tomas Lanczos wrote:\ Really strange, I downloaded many versions of OOo, many times, never-ever experienced that. I used Opera or Firefox on WinXP or Ubuntu, what browser did You use? Firefox. I might add to my previous comments that the link on the download bounce page to Download Central takes one back to the very page on which one has just clicked Download OpenOffice.org. IOW, brings one in a futile circle, unless one considers oneself adventurous enough to visit a page on which the is no guarantee that any of the listed versions is available. And, again, were this my first visit to OpenOffice.org my reaction would have been, what an unprofessional group! Just being candid here. I love the project, but I have to agree with Gary the OP on this thread, that the web site is NOT optimal to attract (and retain!!) new users who are non-technical, non-programming, end users. kazar Certainly doesn't happen here. www.openoffice.org, click on Get openoffice.org, click on Download Openoffice.org which already tells me what version I need, and off it goes, It does not work on Macs. You get the bouncer and the message The download you have chosen is not available. This was reported to the website-dev list on Feb. 23 and still isn't fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Attention
On 2008/03/09 4:39 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: On 9 Mar 2008 at 13:48, Datatude wrote: On 2008-03-08 6:13 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: Its not the most flash website in the world but it does work. Tell your six friends to go to the above link then - Click on 'Get OpenOffice.org' - Click on 'Download OpenOffice.org' And the the latest Windows version of OOo will download. What is difficult about that? I decided to test out today what Gary (OP) had said. I am using a Mac PPC. After clicking on Download OpenOffice.org I was taken to a page saying you are about to download ... and then I was switched to a page that says: Download Chooser The download you have chosen is not available. Please use the BACK button to return to the erroneous page or go to Download Central http://download.openoffice.org/. For the adventurous there is a form http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/download-form.php provided with no guarantee that any of the listed versions is available. If I were an average software user just wanting to download and install this suite, I would look elsewhere and probably never come back. Especially given that last sentence!! kazar -- Datatude, Ltd. -- http://www.datatude.net/ strategies solutions Tools of Choice forums at http://network.datatude.net/ Everyone seems to have missed the point! I clearly say that this will download the latest 'Windows' version. Below 'Download OpenOffice.org' it clearly says: 'Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 2.3.1 for Windows, (US English version)' You missed the point. On a Mac below 'Download OpenOffice.org' it clearly says 'Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 2.3.1 for Mac x86, (US English version)'. When you then click on it you get the Bouncer error message 'The download you have chosen is not available.' Please use the BACK button to return to the erroneous page or go to Download Central. For the adventurous there is a form provided with no guarantee that any of the listed versions is available.' This page is automatically detecting the OS being used. The message you get as a Window user is irrelevant to a Mac user. The site is broken and does not give a proper link for Mac users. Below that it says: 'Get more platforms and languages' This is what someone with Mac PPC needs to click. BTW, the original poster of this was not subscribed so will not have seen these posts about Mac PPC. He did not reply to me or the list, so maybe he is sorted by my original reply which was copied to him. Tony Pursell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: suggestion
On 2008/03/05 10:28 PM, Jorge Arturo Chaves O. wrote: Could we expect a version of Open Office for MacOS X - PPC Users (not intel inside)? Thanks Jorge There always has been one. See http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: saving a few bucks is a great feeling....give it a shot
On 10/23/07 6:45 AM, Guy Voets wrote: 2007/10/23, Datatude [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kinda funny in an odd way ... to receive this spam on the very list that was debating whether guest posts ought to be allowed. kazar On 2007-10-22 11:43 AM, Taylor wrote: clip / Seems this 'grapefruit' is subscribed... no guest. No, he is not subscribed. There is a Delivered-To:Moderator... header. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Alternative to MS Outlook.
On 9/9/07 2:40 AM, Bob Farrell wrote: Gentlemen : I currently use Open Office 2.2 after being married to MS Office for too many years. The product is superb but for Email, Calender, Contacts etc. I am still having to use my old original (unsupported) version of MS Outlook which was part of the now unused Office Suite. Is there any plan to offer an alternative Open Office programme to Outlook so my whole system will be upgraded. Try Thunderbird email program http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ and the add on calender Lightning http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ Reply to list only -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: openoffice mail
On 6/21/07 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Well this is an open source project after all, I do wonder how many of those requestors are willing to either program or provide the programmer to work on this task. FOSS is not just about requesting something but doing it yourself. So are you saying that if I can't program or provide a programmer I shouldn't use FOSS? That is pretty narrow minded. No, more like: if you can't pay the piper, you can't call the tune Attitudes like that make one want to quit using FOSS. Obviously you do not care about the users of OO.org. You seem to believe that only the people who can program it should use it. Anyone else's opinion doesn't count. This attitude will drive people away.Besides, doesn't Sun pay the salaries of most of the OO.org developers? When did we said you shoudn't use it? When you said FOSS is not just about requesting something but doing it yourself. You are using it allright, you never demand to use it. You are demanding that a development should take place at your commnad. That is not using it, that is wanting to modify through orders. Fortunately software doesn't get modify through orders but through code, if you want that a email client appear out of thin air you should start making the code to make it so. I'm not ordering anything. I may request things or support other people's requests, but I do not order. You do order people when you tell them to do it themselves. Code is the currency. If you don't code, then feel free to use whatever the developer code. Developers should code to fit the users needs. You have the cart before the horse. For your information Sun DOESNT pay the salaries of all the developers. I just translate 17000 strings of OOo for free dollars, with zero cents. And you come and tell me that I don't care for the user. I never said that Sun pays for all the developers, only most. Why don't you read the post before running your mouth off? Yes free software is most commonly free of price, but the service is not, if you want to modify it, then u want a development service which cost money. If you are willing to pay it. In other words users are not supposed to request features or improvements or report bugs but blissfully accept whatever the the developer gods condescendingly decide they should have despite what their real needs are. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: openoffice mail
On 6/20/07 12:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:51:56 -0500, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate the idea and functionality of OpneOffice.org very much. However to replace a most dominant office suite provider, i have no alternative for its outlook mail. Moreover, i loose my mail archive/boxes and address book. Is here something for OOo to entertain? Thank you very much and success for an open world! This question is asked, at least, daily. Most people on this list have an opinion on this one way or the other. The current answer is that there is not presently an email client offered with OOo. IMHO I don't believe that OOo should never have a email application. There are plenty of good Open Source email clients that will do the job (and the list and quality is improving all the time). Just my $0.02 worth... /paul Well this is an open source project after all, I do wonder how many of those requestors are willing to either program or provide the programmer to work on this task. FOSS is not just about requesting something but doing it yourself. So are you saying that if I can't program or provide a programmer I shouldn't use FOSS? That is pretty narrow minded. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: [OT] Grammar: Comma before and in a series
Peter Reaper wrote: Larry Gusaas said on 09.04.2007 01:25: Peter Reaper wrote: Larry Gusaas said on 08.04.2007 21:48: Peter Reaper wrote: Michael Adams said on 08.04.2007 15:59: clip / The quoted article does not say it is mandatory in any way anywhere. Yes it does. Re-read it. It says: *Separate* three or more items in a series with a comma. That sounds pretty mandatory to me. http://www.drgrammar.org/faqs/#26 True, but that does not make the article correct .A was previously posted by Adrian Try It's interesting - I was taught at school not to use a comma before the 'and' in a list. I was taught the same. Did you look at the article in Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma The issue is not as clearcut as you claim it is. clip / Also, I was merely pointing out an error in Adrian's signature (which appears in *every* post of his) in the hope that he would *welcome* the opportunity to correct a highly visible (but minor) error and that he might appreciate the opportunity to learn something about the language he is using. He even *thanked* me for it. clip / He was very polite. Did you look at the Wikipedia article he cited ? The comma was not necessarily an error according to some other opinions. Yes, I did read it. Interesting read! It is pretty clear there that in *American* English, the serial comma is virtually always used (see Style guides) (AP are traitors ;-) ). I also found the reasons (see Ambiguity) *for* its use far more compelling than those *against* its use. I live in America. Which part of it are you referring to? North, South or Central? That's an irrelevant distinction. Is it? You said American English, not U.S. English. American could be anywhere on tow continents. Have you read the thread and the wiki page? Of course. I wasn't sure you had read the Wikipedia article by your previous comments. Anyhow, it's a minor issue, and I never intended to make it any more than that. I found it interesting that the old empire (UK) and its (former) colonies have a different (IMO less ideal) convention/rule for this. Thanks for the history lesson. I always thought that the U.S. of A. was a former British colony. It was. Relevance? You stated that the old empire (UK) and its (former) colonies have a different (IMO less ideal) convention/rule for this. Since the U.S.A. was a former colony, I was wondering who has the different rule that you refer to. As usual 'Americans' - in this context meaning citizens of the U.S. of A. - think their way is always the right way. :-) Just because many Americans think their way is the right way doesn't mean they are *automatically* wrong. I never said they were. My reasons for preferring the serial comma are based on reason and not national pride. Good. You have learnt something. Previously you were vehemently insisting that using the serial comma was the only right way. Now you acknowledge that it is just a preference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: [OT] Grammar: Comma before and in a series
Peter Reaper wrote: Michael Adams said on 08.04.2007 15:59: clip / The quoted article does not say it is mandatory in any way anywhere. Yes it does. Re-read it. It says: *Separate* three or more items in a series with a comma. That sounds pretty mandatory to me. http://www.drgrammar.org/faqs/#26 True, but that does not make the article correct .A was previously posted by Adrian Try It's interesting - I was taught at school not to use a comma before the 'and' in a list. I was taught the same. Did you look at the article in Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma The issue is not as clearcut as you claim it is. clip / Also, I was merely pointing out an error in Adrian's signature (which appears in *every* post of his) in the hope that he would *welcome* the opportunity to correct a highly visible (but minor) error and that he might appreciate the opportunity to learn something about the language he is using. He even *thanked* me for it. clip / He was very polite. Did you look at the Wikipedia article he cited ? The comma was not necessarily an error according to some other opinions. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: [OT] Grammar: Comma before and in a series
Peter Reaper wrote: Larry Gusaas said on 08.04.2007 21:48: Peter Reaper wrote: Michael Adams said on 08.04.2007 15:59: clip / The quoted article does not say it is mandatory in any way anywhere. Yes it does. Re-read it. It says: *Separate* three or more items in a series with a comma. That sounds pretty mandatory to me. http://www.drgrammar.org/faqs/#26 True, but that does not make the article correct .A was previously posted by Adrian Try It's interesting - I was taught at school not to use a comma before the 'and' in a list. I was taught the same. Did you look at the article in Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma The issue is not as clearcut as you claim it is. clip / Also, I was merely pointing out an error in Adrian's signature (which appears in *every* post of his) in the hope that he would *welcome* the opportunity to correct a highly visible (but minor) error and that he might appreciate the opportunity to learn something about the language he is using. He even *thanked* me for it. clip / He was very polite. Did you look at the Wikipedia article he cited ? The comma was not necessarily an error according to some other opinions. Yes, I did read it. Interesting read! It is pretty clear there that in *American* English, the serial comma is virtually always used (see Style guides) (AP are traitors ;-) ). I also found the reasons (see Ambiguity) *for* its use far more compelling than those *against* its use. I live in America. Which part of it are you referring to? North, South or Central? Anyhow, it's a minor issue, and I never intended to make it any more than that. I found it interesting that the old empire (UK) and its (former) colonies have a different (IMO less ideal) convention/rule for this. Thanks for the history lesson. I always thought that the U.S. of A. was a former British colony. As usual 'Americans' - in this context meaning citizens of the U.S. of A. - think their way is always the right way. :-) -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] OpenOffice Input
Cor Nouws wrote: [SNIP] Your information is far outdated. OpenOffice.org is really fast now. Cheers, Cor What a bunch of crock. If you have a brand new system you you might find it fast. I just did a comparison of time to open on my old Windows 98SE system. M$ Word 97 - 8 seconds WordPerfect 9 - 18 seconds OOo Writer 2.1 - 74 seconds -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Website: http://larry-gusaas.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[4]: [discuss] Error in selecting currency
On 3 Dec 2006 at 2:32, Metin Akbil wrote: Larry Gusaas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without including (Turkey) you would not know which alphabet was used. The Kurds have been discriminated against and denied a homeland for centuries. Turkey has a long history of human rights violations against its citizens of Kurdish origin. Isn't that what the language selection is for? The locale setting is the language selector. The hierarchy under Options - Language Settings - Languages is: Language of / Locale setting / Kurdish(Turkey) This sets the language as used in a specific locale. There is nothing political about this. Their is nothing technically incorrect in doing so. As I mentioned in the part of my post that you clipped Kurdish in Turkey uses a different alphabet than in other countries. Also please let's get the facts straight, the Kurdish terrorist organisation PKK has been responsible for the murder of 10s of thousands of people in southeast Turkey since the eighties. There is no justification for terrorism of any sort. Likewise there is no justification for oppression against minority ethnic groups like the Kurds who have lived under subjugation for centuries in Iran, Iraq, and Turkey. I live in Istanbul which has the highest number of Kurdish citizens in Turkey, I never saw any human rights violations against them, they just have to suffer the same traffic we all do... I have never personally seen human rights violations against Native Americans or African Americans but they occur daily. Why don't you open your eyes? Or are you conveniently putting the Iraqis gassing of their Kurdish citizens on Turkey? No. Before ranting I made a simple factual statement. You are the on who is ranting. about such questionable and mostly fabricated human rights violations, Unfortunately there is nothing fabricated about the human rights violations against the Kurdsoccurring. The oppression has been occurring for centuries. please remember that without the Turkish army protecting its southerneast border, you would have the Al Qaeda troops walking straight into Europe. That is a very big stretch of your imagination. I apologise to all others who may be bored by this discussion, but having lived first hand through Kurdish PKK terrorism until recently, And the Kurds have first hand knowledge of being oppressed for centuries. I feel that what needs to be a technical issue is being pulled towards a political platform. You have made it a political platform through your obviously anti-Kurdish attitude. There is no valid technical issue. It's easy for you guys to sit over there and try to pass judgement although after the unfortunate events of 9/11 people in the US are beginning to get a feel for it. My technical arguement is based on the fact that unlike Switzerland where there are 3 official languages used in their cantons, Turkey is one united country with one official language, the decimal and thousands seperators are used as in most of Europe, thus there needs to be one locale. Users can then choose any language they want from the language section. The language settings have nothing to do with what the official language is. --- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0653-0, 2006-12-03 Tested on: 2006-12-03 9:18:43 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: Re[2]: [discuss] Error in selecting currency
On 2 Dec 2006 at 12:36, Metin Akbil wrote: Saturday, December 2, 2006, 3:37:04 AM, you wrote: Metin Akbil wrote: There is nothing wrong with the program as it stands. The choices are Turkish Lira [in the 'Kurdish(Turkey)' locale] and Turkish Lira [in the 'Turkish' locale]. -- John W. Kennedy The problem is with the Kurdish (Turkey) locale. Please check official sources, such a locale doesn't exist. I live in Turkey and the only locale in use in Turkey is Turkish (Turkey). My objection is to citing a 'Kurdish locale' in Turkey. This is not a language issue. As I stated previously, such information should be acquired from reliable official sources, such arbitrarily made up false information does not reflect well on an otherwise good product. Is it indeed official that one may not write in the Kurdish language in Turkey? Tell us more. I'm sure the European Court of Human Rights will be very interested to learn all about it. I think you have a problem understanding the English language! Please don't follow up on hidden agendas that you know very little or nothing about. I specifically stated that this is not a language issue, people can speak and write whatever language thet want in Turkey. The official language is Turkish, what languages people use in their everyday lives is up to them, there are no restrictions. For your information, there are a couple of radio stations broadcasting in Kurdish. Why insist on having a Kurdish locale in Turkey? You can set the language to Kurdish, as well as Arabic, Georgian, Greek, Armenian etc. all of which are spoken to some degree in Turkey. So, instead of citing political mumbo jumbo, maybe you can just tell us where you get the information and whether there is another agenda here. Kurdish on its own would be correct just as Basque is (It's not Basque (Spain)) If you would like to learn more please don't hesitate to ask, I would be glad to help clear out any misunderstanding and wrong conceptions. I do not understand your problem with the use of Kurdish(Turkey). Kurdish indicates the language, (Turkey) indicates which version of the language. I use English(Canada). Likewise you also have Spanish(Spain) and Spanish(Mexico). Kurdish is written with different alphabets so it is necessary to know which is being use. I found this at http://www.omniglot.com/writing/kurdish.htm In Turkey Kurdish is written with the Latin alphabet and in parts of the former Soviet Union it is written with the Cyrillic alphabet. When Kurdish is written with the Arabic script, Arabic loan words retain their original spelling, though are often pronounced quite differently in Kurdish. The Kurds do not have a homeland and have been persecuted and discriminated against for centuries. Turkey has a long history of human rights violations against its citizens of Kurdish origin. -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0652-6, 2006-12-01 Tested on: 2006-12-02 12:42:33 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[4]: [discuss] Error in selecting currency
On 3 Dec 2006 at 2:13, Metin Akbil wrote: This is just a guess, but could Kurdish(Turkey) just refer to the Kurdish language used in a Turkish setting (currency, etc) as opposed to Kurdish used in some other country's setting (eg Iraq). I don't think there is any political agenda here. If you are a Kurd using OOo it has to be in the context of the country you live in. Tony I understand what you are saying. I am not sure if the Kurdish used in Iraq or Iran is the same as in Turkey, I heard that there are different dialects. Still, it would make more sense to let the user select what language they want to use in the language section, rather than set arbitrary locales. This is a technical issue, if what you say was intended than there should be a lot of other options such as Armenian (Turkey), Spanish (US), Basque (Spain), Macedonian (Greece/Romania?), Chechen (Russia) etc. I'm just trying to point out a technical inconsistency here. Metin I don't see an inconsistency. There is English(Australia), English(Canada), English(Eire) - an Irishman with your agenda would object to this - English(USA), English(UK), plus many more. There is nothing political in these names. It is just a shortened way of naming the specific version of a language. For example English(Canada) would read as English as written and used in Canada. As I stated in another email Kurdish in Turkey uses a different alphabet from other countries, therefore Kurdish(Turkey) is correct and should be interpreted as Kurdish as written in Turkey. The only political agenda is the one that you apply to it. -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0652-6, 2006-12-01 Tested on: 2006-12-02 6:59:40 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Funding for Evolution Win32 Installer
On 2 May 2006 at 8:54, Daniel Kasak wrote: If this goes ahead, I think we should round up everyone in the mailing lists who has insisted on an integrated email client and ask them to put their money where their mouth is by funding the prizes. It is my belief that they will make themselves scarce at this point :) Is it necessary to insult everyone who mentions missing elements in OOo.org? OOo.org is a great program that I highly recommend to everyone instead of Microcrap Office. However, there are many people on this list who should take their insulting comments and go work for Microsoft. I am sure they would drive many customers over to OOo.org :) -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0617-3, 04/28/2006 Tested on: 5/1/2006 5:22:47 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Funding for Evolution Win32 Installer
On 1 May 2006 at 21:44, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This discussions sounds like a patient arguing with a doctor, while the doctor tell them what they have inside and reasons of what they have inside. The patient will argue with arguments such as it hurt me on the lower part of my arm without understanding much of what the doctor say. This is the same issue with developers and end users triying to come to reason. I've had doctors prescribe antibiotics automatically for something that wasn't a bacterial infection. Other doctors have said that a drug is a 100% safe even though any scientist will acknowledge that there is no drug that is 100% safe. They didn't listen to their patient and assumed they knew the answer without proper testing. Some doctors think they are God. Is it the same with programmers? End users see the blinking lights and developers see the actual processes. End users see what the program will and will not do. They know (at least some of them) what they need and if a particular program fills that need. Developers who do not listen to what end users want will end up missing the boat. OOo.org is a great product and has helped me with the process of becoming Microsoft free. Once I buy a Macintosh the process will be complete. I just hope that the attitude some on this list display will not stop others from leaving Microcrap products. -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0617-3, 04/28/2006 Tested on: 5/1/2006 10:26:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Mail Client
Insulting and condescending responses like this will keep people away from OOo.org. As for contributing, I promote OO.org at every opportunity, including on my website. I use programs that will accomplish what I need them to do, eather commercial or open source. I do not have time to wait for a program to develop into a useful product. On 29 Apr 2006 at 11:33, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le vendredi 28 avril 2006 à 23:50 -0600, Larry Gusaas a écrit : On 29 Apr 2006 at 0:29, Alexandro Colorado wrote:On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:36:45 -0400, Larry Gusaas Last time I tried Mozilla Calender it sucked big time. Bloated, slow and practically unusable. Thunderbird still isn't equal to other better programs. Good, well the next step is to make it better until it fits your needs. Did you ask them how can you help? I am not a programmer. I will give positive and negative response to user lists for the products I use. Why do people respond to user comments with questions like this? Because in the FOSS world either you can contribute some work (developping, documentation, whatever) and you have some standing, or you don't and are a nobody (and the amount of screeching on ML and forums won't change that) Just like for Adobe is you're not a paying customer, you're a nobody and it does not have to change Photoshop to please you. If Calendar or Thunderbird are not good enough for you go ask the projects how you can help them (which does not have to be in the programming side), and then you'll have a vote where they are going. If you want OO.o to devote a *large amount* of resources to duplicate the Calendar or Thunderbird work just because you don't want to bother interacting with the mozilla projects, you'd better contribute something which can compensate. (right now your contribution is negative because you've forced some people including me to spend time rehashing the same old question). What people have tried to tell you (and you're ignoring so far) is given the level of advancement of the moz projects, the contribution you'd have to do to moz to speed up things is way lower than what you'd have to do to OO.o given it'd have to start from scratch. But of course you may be a hidden billionaire, in which case this kind of consideration is not really relevant to you. -- Nicolas Mailhot -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0617-3, 04/28/2006 Tested on: 4/29/2006 11:17:14 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Mail Client
On 28 Apr 2006 at 12:53, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Great at least you are talking to the right project. The developers here has nothing to do with calendaring/email stuff. But many people are asking that OOo.org include email/calendering/calender. They need it in order to replace Office. Last time I tried Mozilla Calender it sucked big time. Bloated, slow and practically unusable. Thunderbird still isn't equal to other better programs. -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0617-3, 04/28/2006 Tested on: 4/28/2006 5:36:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Mail Client
On 29 Apr 2006 at 0:29, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:36:45 -0400, Larry Gusaas But many people are asking that OOo.org include email/calendering/calender. They need it in order to replace Office. They can replace it right now, Outlook is not dependen of office suite, you can still get outlook on a separate box at a cheaper price. And if you want to go open source with your PIM you can always adopt one of the many out there like Zimbra. The point is that many people will not switch from MS Office unless all the features in it are in one program. Many people on this list are unwilling to acknowledge this point. Personally, I've never used MS Office or Outlook. I have a old copy of Word but seldom use it. However I would appreciate much better integration of word processing, email and PIM. It would be a time saver for me but I will not go to M$ Office to get it. Last time I tried Mozilla Calender it sucked big time. Bloated, slow and practically unusable. Thunderbird still isn't equal to other better programs. Good, well the next step is to make it better until it fits your needs. Did you ask them how can you help? I am not a programmer. I will give positive and negative response to user lists for the products I use. Why do people respond to user comments with questions like this? Thunderbird and especially Calender were not usable for me. I went back to an email program that worked well for me and found a much better calender. I am not going to waste my time trying to make a product work when there are better solutions available. -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0617-3, 04/28/2006 Tested on: 4/28/2006 11:50:23 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Suggestion
This web site home page fails the W3C Markup Validation Service v0.7.2 Result: Failed validation, 36 errors Another page had 191 errors. It is not a good promotion for OOo to refer to a webpage that is not W3C compliant. On 7 Apr 2006 at 9:17, Martin Hauge wrote: Hi, Here is a link to a Norwegian web-site that is 100% made by OpenOffice.org 2.0 as it is already: http://l-bentel.hos.online.no The html-pages is created in Writer, and all the pdf-documents that can be downloaded under Dyrking is of course created by OOo. The drawings are made in Draw, and the pictures are also processed in Draw. Martin Hauge -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0614-3, 04/07/2006 Tested on: 4/7/2006 11:31:39 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Clip Your Posts was Re: [discuss] RE: very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software
This 8.9k post contained several pages of quotes before this very sort comment. This type of post is a total waste of time to scroll through to find any comments. It wastes as much time as all the negative comments about Chad. This is just one example of many. I am not trying to single out one individual. On 7 Feb 2006 at 18:08, C Cichocki wrote: ---clip--- ---clip--- ---clip--- ---clip--- ---clip--- etc., etc., etc. Barbed Wire Bats - Table and Ladders.. Chris -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0606-1, 02/06/2006 Tested on: 2/7/2006 1:12:33 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Short list with Pro's Cons
On 19 Jan 2006 at 12:22, Chad Smith wrote: ---clip--- And, btw, OOo X11 *doesn't* run on my Macs because I have Tiger, and OOo won't work without X11 and I have been completely unable to install X11 on my Mac. The only way I've been told to do it is with the install disc for Tiger, and that want to reinstall my operating system. ---clip--- Did you try this? It sounds like it will install optional part without reinstalling the whole operating system. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301229 More custom reinstallation options with Mac OS X 10.4 Want to reinstall a part of Mac OS X 10.4 after it's already installed? It's easy! 1. Insert your Mac OS X 10.4 Install disc. 2. Double-click the Optional Installs.mpkg. 3. After the installer opens, you can choose from the following custom install options: 4. You can expand each section (except Additional Fonts) by clicking the disclosure triangle to the left of the section name, if you want even more specific custom install options. Once you've selected the items, simply click OK, then click Install. Here's a complete list of all the custom installation options available with Optional Installs.mpkg: * Applications o Address Book 4.0 o iCal 2.0 o iChat 3.0 o iTunes 4.7.1 o Mail 2.0 o Oxford Dictionaries o Safari 2.0 o X11 --clip-- -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0603-3, 01/18/2006 Tested on: 1/19/2006 12:46:23 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Short list with Pro's Cons
On 18 Jan 2006 at 19:31, Chad Smith wrote: In case you were wondering, here's the page I got X11 from. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/x11formacosx.html Notice the note: *Note* 10.4 customers can install X11 by using the Tiger DVD installer disk. Which everytime I try to use it, it takes me to the Install Mac OS X 10.4 setup, and I can't get out of it. I've been unable to locate the X11 installer package on the DVD by itself. The very fact that the end user has to install *ANYTHING* other than OOo when NeoOffice doesn't require anything that's not already there proves my point. This whole conversation proves my point. If it's so good to use X11, why not include the blankety-blank thing in the OOo for Mac installer and make it simple for everyone? I am not a Mac owner but I will be soon. Since I want the latest version of OOo that means using X11. I found this on the Apple site. It may solve your problem. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301229 More custom reinstallation options with Mac OS X 10.4 Want to reinstall a part of Mac OS X 10.4 after it's already installed? It's easy! 1. Insert your Mac OS X 10.4 Install disc. 2. Double-click the Optional Installs.mpkg. 3. After the installer opens, you can choose from the following custom install options: 4. You can expand each section (except Additional Fonts) by clicking the disclosure triangle to the left of the section name, if you want even more specific custom install options. Once you've selected the items, simply click OK, then click Install. Here's a complete list of all the custom installation options available with Optional Installs.mpkg: * Applications o Address Book 4.0 o iCal 2.0 o iChat 3.0 o iTunes 4.7.1 o Mail 2.0 o Oxford Dictionaries o Safari 2.0 o X11 --clip-- There are screenshots on the web page showing the options. It looks simple to me although I have not done it yet. -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0603-3, 01/18/2006 Tested on: 1/18/2006 10:52:26 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo
On 9 Dec 2005 at 9:12, Cor Nouws wrote: Roger Markus wrote: Well, Chad, old chap. Now we know you're guilty! One of the surest signs of deep and defenseless guilt is saying But someone else is also guilty! So - how much does Microsoft pay you to pump their spin into this list? Are you being paid by the same people who pay that druggie Rush? Say - everyone - here's another call to ban this Microsoft PR spinner from this list. He (or is it she?) doesn't belong here. Every intelligent person on the list wants him off - why is he still here? Chad is a waste of our time, at the least. But that's enough to ignore his postings. Cor I ignore Chad a lot of the time but occasionally he does raise some very good points. The biggest waste of time is dealing with all these off topic attacks on Chad interspersed into threads you are following. It is very difficult to filter them out when they are part of a legitimate thread. -- Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0549-4, 12/09/2005 Tested on: 12/9/2005 11:26:57 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] a more complete office suite
On 7 Nov 2005 at 9:15, Jonathon Blake wrote: Chad wrote: Why? - WHY? Because it makes *SENSE* to, that's why. It makes absolutely no sense to include an email client in an office suite. The main point is that M$ office does include an email client (Outlook). People using it are used to the integration - having word processor, email, address book integrated in a business environment does make a certain amount of sense - and expect it in other office programs. Not having an email client may keep some people from migrating to OOo. Personally I do not care if OOo includes an email client. I am satisfied with the separate programs I am using (OOo2.0 and Pegasus) but there are times it would be very handy to have my email address book available in OOo2.0. - - Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0545-0, 11/07/2005 Tested on: 11/7/05 2:42:12 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Manual available for OpenOffice.org 2.0
On 4 Nov 2005 at 8:08, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:20:15 -0600, Mary Leete wrote: Hello! Congratulations to all who worked on OOo 2.0! It's fabulous! If anyone is looking for a great manual, Free Software For Dummies, includes about 200 pages on OpenOffice.org 2.0. It's newly published and received excellent reviews in the Chicago Tribune, LA Times and elsewhere. It has several chapters on all the major programs: Writer, Calc, Base, Draw, and Impress, plus it includes other free software as well, such as The GIMP, Firefox, and more. And it only costs $14.95 on Amazon. Please spread the word! Congratulations again on your success! Mary Leete Author of Free Software For Dummies Mary, THIS IS SPAM. This is not spam. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Spamming is the use of any electronic communications medium to send unsolicited messages in bulk. This message was not sent in bulk. It congratulates everyone who worked on OOo 2.0 and announces her book which will be useful in spreading awareness and use of OOo. Another definition from Wikipedia. Newsgroup spam predates e-mail spam, and targets Usenet newsgroups. Old Usenet convention defines spamming as excessive multiple posting, that is, the repeated posting of a message (or substantially similar messages). It seems you have posted this message on multiple lists. I have seen three copies of it on the User's list. Do you consider this SPAM? Legitimate authors do NOT need to spam mailing lists to generate sales. They help on the list. Unlike real authors, such as Andrew Pitonyak and Jean Hollis Weber, who help on this list, you have not bothered. In fact this is the sole message in the list(s) archives. One message, really. You are implying that legitimate authors only work for free. I could make an equally asinine statement that the only authors who work for free are not good enough to get published. Your subject is misleading in that it implies that yours is the only manual. Not so, the Documentation project and OOoAuthors group, already have manuals available and for FREE in softcopy and at a reasonable cost for printed. I see no reason to assume that stating that a manual is available implies that it is the only manual available. $79.99 US is not reasonable, especially since it DOES NOT cover OOo 2.0. I have found the pdf manuals useful and would highly recommend them. I would also recommend looking at Free Software For Dummies. In conclusion, I see that you and maybe some others think that by abusing the OOo mailings lists for a personal profit is okay, I do not. I do not see any abuse. Perhaps you should step back and realize that your Documentation project isn't the only source of information on OOo. I think that if you read your terms of service agreement with your ISP you will find that you have made a mistake. I will bet that your publisher will also not be happy. Enjoy your profits. -- Documentation Co-lead Dinna meddle wi' things ye ken nuthin' aboot! J.H. - - Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0544-7, 11/03/2005 Tested on: 11/4/05 12:23:52 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: [users] Manual available for OpenOffice.org 2.0
On 2 Nov 2005 at 14:54, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 13:20 -0600, Mary Leete wrote: Congratulations to all who worked on OOo 2.0! It's fabulous! If anyone is looking for a great manual, Free Software For Dummies, includes about 200 pages on OpenOffice.org 2.0. It's newly published and received excellent reviews in the Chicago Tribune, LA Times and elsewhere. It has several chapters on all the major programs: Writer, Calc, Base, Draw, and Impress, plus it includes other free software as well, such as The GIMP, Firefox, and more. And it only costs $14.95 on Amazon. Please spread the word! Congratulations again on your success! Mary Leete Author of Free Software For Dummies Better to buy the OOo one. All profits go to OOo rather than into someone's pocket. See http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/ Do you have something against writers making money from their work? This book apparently covers many other free progams besides OOo. I will be looking at it soon. - - Larry I. Gusaas, Moose Jaw, Sask. http://larry-gusaas.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0544-4, 11/02/2005 Tested on: 11/3/05 1:10:38 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
