[discuss] Re: Open Office formatting
Rethabile Mogajane wrote: Hello, I need help with formatting my Date column in Open office. Currently the default view is DD/MM/ and I would really appreciate if I could change the formatting to YY/MM/DD. I tried ‘format cell’ and still I can’t seem to be able to change it. Please help Kind regards, I am guessing that this in Calc. Right click, select Format Cell. In the pop-up under the Number tab, select Date. Now under the Format column click the format that shows 199-12-31. In the Format code box delete the first two Y. Click OK to save and close the pop-up. The date format you need should now be shown in the cell. Just remember that this formatting is only for display not how that the data is entered. HTH Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Fw: New Open Office with Activation Code
Doug Douglas wrote: The New Microsoft Office 2011 Alternative!I received this. Is it genuine or a scam (possibly with a virus/ If genuine, I suggest that you make that clearer. It is not an OOo site. Nothing prevents a person from modifying or selling OOo. As long as the site does not represent its self as being OpenOffice.org. My suggestion is to download from the www.openoffice.org site and ignore such emails. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
Robert Derman wrote: Mike Scott wrote: On 26/08/2011 00:10, Larry Gusaas wrote: Wrong. The issue was having to search through the headers to find if the poster was subscribed or not. There was no indication in the subject that the poster was not subscribed. This wasted much time for people providing support. Worse than that even. User Q sends in a query. Subbed user A replies, subbed user B follows that up, and C then wants to add to the thread to give what he feels is a better response. How on earth is C supposed to find out whether the /original/ poster Q was subbed or not, to be sure that his response will reach Q? Even if he's willing to check the entire thread, he may not have kept the original Q and A emails. I always thought that the mail list should have been set up so that you simply COULD NOT post to it if you weren't subscribed!! If a person is not subscribed the message goes to a moderator who can allow it through. Normally on spam is denied. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
Jason Ax wrote: Will OpenOffice ever be compatible with Adobe Acrobat? Acrobat does not recognize OpenOffice files. Jason That would be up to Adobe. Acrobat is a PDF editor/creator and it sets the PDF standard. OOo can create PDF following those standards. OOo's native format is the Open Document Format, ODF for short, that is set by the International Standards Organization. Adobe needs to modify their code to import ODF files for conversion to PDF. They do it with MS formats so it would not be hard for them to use the ODF format as well. As long as Adobe and companies like it do not support the ODF format it will be harder for business to accept it. There are work a rounds, one would be to Save-as to DOC format and then import in to Acrobat. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: [OT - OOo + Adobe Acrobat] Re: User related mailing list
NoOp wrote: Now see. You should be moderated for responding to a hijacked list thread rather than advising the poster that he hijacked a thread and pointing him to the OOo mailing list etiquette page... http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html#netiquette What no mention of thread hijacking? Let's try the new improved: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html Start a new thread for a new topic When asing a new question, please start a new thread with an appropriate new subject line. This makes it easier to read, and to find later in the archives. Closer the Tom Dennis E's of the world will be much happier with top posting... of to the sandbox you go Andy. :-) My mistake, I will go now. :) Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
Mathias Bauer wrote: Am 24.08.2011 22:47, schrieb NoOp: Hmmm... OK. It was 'tongue-in-cheek' Drew. I'll not even comment on the Sun-Oracle lists transition :-) But I will add this; if OOoA goes to forums only, then I'll not be participating. I think we all should try to become more open for new development. It is clear that mailing lists are easier to handle for the regulars, the most active participants. But OTOH a huge number of users looking for help (if not the vast majority) aren't experienced mail users. The results are known: - posts without subjects - destroyed threads - frequent mails with why do I get all these mails, please help me out of here (and that's just the polite version ;-)) - quoting disasters etc. So many of the benefits of a mailing list are partially destroyed. OTOH most users are used to web fora - and they know how to use them. For many years my answer to the question mailing list or web forum for user support would have been the same as yours - but times have changed and so I tried to find out why I prefer mailing lists over web fora. Remember, we are not talking about technical discussions or developer talks, it's about supporting users that usually just want to drop a question and not join a community. Or maybe, they might consider joining later, when they received a lot of help and started to like the forum. At the end there are only two things that really upset me: - without threads longer discussions are a mess - especially for power supporters it is important to track the status of posts reliably (read status or other markers like important etc.). There are already many fora that support threading, and as the maintenance of the thread no longer depends on the capabilities of the mail clients and their users, they might even do it better than the average support mailing list (IMHO users@ooo is a mess in that regard). So for me the second point (tracking of status) would be crucial: if the web forum was able to support me *reliably* in that regard, I could come to terms with it. It would be even better if there was a forum software that interacts with a mailing list in a bidirectional way: best of both worlds. Please, try to think about your statement again: is it really impossible to cope with web fora? It would be a pity to lose your valuable contributions in case the discussion arrived at the decision to prefer web fora for support. I realize you are referring to No-Op's post but think of this, and it has been brought up in several different mailing list. Not everyone has high speed interent access. There are areas here in the USA that are lucky to have dial-up access, so forget broadband. To many people, from web designers to developers think that broadband access is total and covers everyone, it does not. At this time I live where I have broadband access, next week I may not. I remember dial-up and it is a pain when a web page is so loaded with graphics that you can get it to load. Andy BTW, mailing lists also are limited in the way how you can work with them - you can't offer new features as this would require to update all the mail clients. In web fora everything is under control of the admin. Adding better search options (better than download the archive and search for it) or rating techniques could avoid a lot of questions that have been answered already - wouldn't that be an improvement? We won't be able to add any new features supporting users to a mailing list - web fora can do a lot more and there are numerous examples for it. As a developer I like stackoverflow.com where posts and replies can be voted and posters get credits in return (simply put). Both means can help users to get through the jungle of posts and find the best answer just by searching, not by asking. And posts can be tagged, so you can search for them much better and faster than just scanning subjects. Again, we should try to become more open for new development and evaluate it without preconceived opinions. Regards, Mathias -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
Mike Scott wrote: On 25/08/11 17:33, Mathias Bauer wrote: Am 24.08.2011 22:47, schrieb NoOp: Hmmm... OK. It was 'tongue-in-cheek' Drew. I'll not even comment on the Sun-Oracle lists transition :-) But I will add this; if OOoA goes to forums only, then I'll not be participating. I think we all should try to become more open for new development. It is clear that mailing lists are easier to handle for the regulars, the most active participants. But OTOH a huge number of users looking for help (if not the vast majority) aren't experienced mail users. The results are known: - posts without subjects - destroyed threads - frequent mails with why do I get all these mails, please help me out of here (and that's just the polite version ;-)) - quoting disasters etc. Like our present descadastra-me friend? :-) I take your point. But I have a suspicion his type will appear even on a forum, albeit in a different guise. Saw this on a forum a little while back. The user had posted a question and I guess had go an answer. Well time passed and all of a sudden they get an email about a reply to their thread. They can back wanting to know why they were receiving the emails. But if anyone wants to think 'new development', there's no reason one shouldn't have the best of both worlds. Properly designed, you should have a back-end with all the info, and then web forum, mail list and newsgroup are purely different interfaces to the exact same database. I've no idea if such a thing has been written, but it would surely keep everyone happy. It would be great, but there would still be some one to complain that it was not the way they wanted it. :( Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
NoOp wrote: On 08/25/2011 09:33 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Am 24.08.2011 22:47, schrieb NoOp: Hmmm... OK. It was 'tongue-in-cheek' Drew. I'll not even comment on the Sun-Oracle lists transition :-) But I will add this; if OOoA goes to forums only, then I'll not be participating. Mathias, thanks for the thoughtful response. My reply is in-line below. I think we all should try to become more open for new development. It is clear that mailing lists are easier to handle for the regulars, the most active participants. But OTOH a huge number of users looking for help (if not the vast majority) aren't experienced mail users. The results are known: - posts without subjects - destroyed threads - frequent mails with why do I get all these mails, please help me out of here (and that's just the polite version ;-)) - quoting disasters etc. So many of the benefits of a mailing list are partially destroyed. OTOH most users are used to web fora - and they know how to use them. And those 'new' users should be directed to a web forum with the option to also use a mailing list instead. The primary issues with OOo was that users (new or old) were immediatly directed to the mail list from the main OOo support page. Hence we ended up with new users on the list that had no clue that that they were joining a mailing list, or what a mailing list is. To further compound the issue, users were allowed to post without registering (still true today) and hence the 'regulars' had/have to go hunting in headers to find out if the post is from a subscribed list user. All of that is history that we all know very well, so no sense rehashing here. For many years my answer to the question mailing list or web forum for user support would have been the same as yours - but times have changed and so I tried to find out why I prefer mailing lists over web fora. Remember, we are not talking about technical discussions or developer talks, it's about supporting users that usually just want to drop a question and not join a community. Or maybe, they might consider joining later, when they received a lot of help and started to like the forum. At the end there are only two things that really upset me: - without threads longer discussions are a mess - especially for power supporters it is important to track the status of posts reliably (read status or other markers like important etc.). There are already many fora that support threading, and as the maintenance of the thread no longer depends on the capabilities of the mail clients and their users, they might even do it better than the average support mailing list (IMHO users@ooo is a mess in that regard). So for me the second point (tracking of status) would be crucial: if the web forum was able to support me *reliably* in that regard, I could come to terms with it. It would be even better if there was a forum software that interacts with a mailing list in a bidirectional way: best of both worlds. It would, but I've not seen one. Please, try to think about your statement again: is it really impossible to cope with web fora? It would be a pity to lose your valuable contributions in case the discussion arrived at the decision to prefer web fora for support. I participate in many, many mail lists on a daily basis cannot possible begin to imagine trying to do so if all were web based forums. I also eliminate the need to fill my mailbox with messages from each by utilizing nntp via the gmane.org server. That way I can easily search the threads, see the new subjects headers, mark a thread as read if it is of no interest to me, mark threads as read by date if I've been away for a few days, tag threads by headers, and killfile a 'VENDAS - VITALLY' if I wish. Further I can easily switch from this list to the user list, etc., at the click of a mouse. And finally, if I wish to have an local archive of the list, I simply set my nntp reader (SeaMonkey) to download for offline viewing/sorting/searching etc. I can't do that with a web based forum. Here is a sample screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/screenshotgmanecompopen.png/ I participate on the Ubuntu users mailing list nearly every day. Ubuntu have one of the best web based forums around - in fact I search it for answers (via Google) on a regular basis. However I've probably posted there once, and only login if I need to see an archived message that is not available any longer to non-logged in users. For many Ubuntu users the forum is the place to be they are happy there. For me, the mail list is the place to be allows me to easily answer/ask questions with a nearly immediate reply. Would I abandon helping on Ubuntu were the usser mail list go away? The answer is a resounding *yes*. Instead I'd put much more effort into the alt.os.linux.ubuntu newsgroup (even with it's trolls and detractors), or some other 'unofficial' mail list. So, to answer your question: yes. For me if OOoA goes to web based forums only,
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
NoOp wrote: On 08/23/2011 07:16 PM, RA Brown wrote: drew jensen wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:37 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 08/23/2011 08:53 AM, RA Brown wrote: To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers: There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if you depend on these list for support. If not and are willing to use forums that is also needs to be known. The answer is quite simple: notify all posters in the thread that their current thread all further ooo-...@incubator.apache.org discussions will be closed immediately and transferred to a web forum site instead. Oh, and by the way, it may take 1-2 months to get the new forum setup. See what their reaction is... hmm - no one is saying no mailing lists, it is about how many. Most of the conversation, currently, is about the user mailing list. As for needing months to setup a forum - really? They are on-line today..have been for years. You can even choose which one you want to use, or none. //drew Hi Drew, He was only kidding. I get were he is coming from with it though and wish I had thought of it. :) If there is not some input from those that use the list, it will go away. Andy :-) I'll subscribe add my 2 cents later this evening... and yes I'll be polite. Thank you. -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: People trying to make money on openoffice.org
Daniel Winje wrote: hi there, I just wanted to let you fine people over at openoffice.org to know that there are people out there trying to make money in your name. how do i know this? well i was sufring the net and looking for a new edition of openoffice when i i came over this site witch was telling you how good openoffice is and sutch (witch i allready know) and they posted a link to a download (by all means this is quite normal, witch was my thoughs at the time) so i klicked on the link and starte the download witch was described to be 141 mb but was only 665kb or something, odd. then i scaned it for virus and sutch, all ok and then i opened it to find out that it was a downloader (never seen an openoffice downloader before) and my thought was oh well ok, this is new, so i klicked my way through it and then it asked me to send a text message to 1963 with the message MAP so that i would get a code to unlock the download. Thing is that it costs you 40 kr (says so in the downloader) to send the message, about 4 € if 1€ = 10 kr (not sure at the moment). SO, what the fuck? hehe Could not see that you in any way had agreed to it, so i thought i would lett you know :) heres a link to the site: http://studio-no.net/openoffice.php its in norwegian sadly. any how, Thanks for your time. -Daniel Winje Thanks for the information. Will pass it on. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: People trying to make money on openoffice.org
Daniel Winje wrote: hi there, I just wanted to let you fine people over at openoffice.org to know that there are people out there trying to make money in your name. how do i know this? well i was sufring the net and looking for a new edition of openoffice when i i came over this site witch was telling you how good openoffice is and sutch (witch i allready know) and they posted a link to a download (by all means this is quite normal, witch was my thoughs at the time) so i klicked on the link and starte the download witch was described to be 141 mb but was only 665kb or something, odd. then i scaned it for virus and sutch, all ok and then i opened it to find out that it was a downloader (never seen an openoffice downloader before) and my thought was oh well ok, this is new, so i klicked my way through it and then it asked me to send a text message to 1963 with the message MAP so that i would get a code to unlock the download. Thing is that it costs you 40 kr (says so in the downloader) to send the message, about 4 € if 1€ = 10 kr (not sure at the moment). SO, what the fuck? hehe Could not see that you in any way had agreed to it, so i thought i would lett you know :) heres a link to the site: http://studio-no.net/openoffice.php its in norwegian sadly. any how, Thanks for your time. -Daniel Winje Let me do this again. First is not illegal to sell open source software, companies do it all the time. The problem comes in if they represent themselves as the developer of the program, in this case OpenOffice.org. They also have to have at least as link to the source so that anyone can download it. I do not understand Norwegian so I can not tell how close they are crossing the line. I have send a message to the new development team at ooo-...@incubator.apache.org to see if someone can look into it. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
Robert Derman wrote: RA Brown wrote: To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers: There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if you depend on these list for support. If not and are willing to use forums that is also needs to be known. An archived copy of the tread starts at: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3ccap-ksogauskq+6kchq7oyv-3utjllyzr5xnv53vh+n6y7s9...@mail.gmail.com%3E You will have to go through the thread to find the messages related to the uses@ and discuss@ list. To subscribe to the list send a message to: ooo-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org To post a message, if not subscribed it will go to a moderator: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org The main web page is at: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ Hope to see you there. Andy I guess that the only reason that I am still subscribed to this list is that I never bothered to unsubscribe. The list that I pay the most attention to now is Discuss @TDF. Hi Robert, Of course that is your choice and not a problem. I was only trying to get the word out that the OOo related list maybe going away if no one speaks up. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
drew jensen wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:37 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 08/23/2011 08:53 AM, RA Brown wrote: To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers: There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if you depend on these list for support. If not and are willing to use forums that is also needs to be known. The answer is quite simple: notify all posters in the thread that their current thread all further ooo-...@incubator.apache.org discussions will be closed immediately and transferred to a web forum site instead. Oh, and by the way, it may take 1-2 months to get the new forum setup. See what their reaction is... hmm - no one is saying no mailing lists, it is about how many. Most of the conversation, currently, is about the user mailing list. As for needing months to setup a forum - really? They are on-line today..have been for years. You can even choose which one you want to use, or none. //drew Hi Drew, He was only kidding. I get were he is coming from with it though and wish I had thought of it. :) If there is not some input from those that use the list, it will go away. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] How to get help!
Anna Constantine wrote: I need help with office org 3.3 is this your way of being professional? please send email to get assist. Hi Anna, If you need help, replying to another thread is not the best way to do it. As with this thread you will have lost most of those that can help, lucky I did not just delete the message. If your not subscribed then I would suggest that you do so or let us know that your not subscribed. That way we know where to send copies to you. As for the problem, give the operating system and version, give the version of OOo. Give a good but short explanation of the problem. Give us some idea of what you have done to correct the problem. Be willing to do some reading if so directed. Reply to the list only and not directly to me. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] [Ping] Paul: Bad address
Paul, I keep getting bounced mail from interiorharmo...@gmail.com every time I reply to a message in this list. Is it possible to remove the address. Thanks Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: How to get help!
Anna Constantine wrote: pls send where i can email to ...your website is too verbose How are you replying to these messages? Go to http://support.openoffice.org/#fcs and you will see a listing that says OpenOffice.org Community Support, third down on the list will be Users Mailing List. To the right of that are two links, Subscribe and Archives. Click on the Subscribe link. Your email client will open with a blank message addressed as it needs to be. Hit send, no message is needed. You will receive a message asking if you really want to subscribe to the list, Hit reply and then Send. You will receive a Welcome to the list message. Then your on the list. From then on send email to us...@openoffice.org for help. Be warned that the list can get a lot of mail, it is slow right not but it does get very high at times. Most of the regular uses use filters to put messages from several mailing list into folders instead of putting every thing in the Inbox to help make sense of it all. Another option is the user forums. These are online sources of help that do not fill your inbox with messages. The first [1] is called the Official Forum since it resides at this time on Oracle servers, this will soon change. The second [2] is the oldest of the forums. Both provide community support at no cost as everyone volunteers their time to answer questions. According to where your located you may get a reply in as little as a few minutes but it may take up to a few hours. [1] http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ [2] http://www.oooforum.org/ For either the mailing list or forums remember the suggestions I made in my last message. Please reply to mailing list and not to me direct. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: How to get help!
Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hello Anna, On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 18:43:43 -0400 Anna Constantineaconstant...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: pls send where i can email to ...your website is too verbose just send your question to the very same email address: discuss@openoffice.org There are many volunteers subscribed to this list, who are more than willing to help you with your problem, once you described in, like Andy replied to you earlier. Oh, but please, start a new thread by sending a new message (i. e. do *not* reply to this or any other message). You can also just click on the link in my email above, this will do the right thing. I hope, this will help you. Sigrid Thanks, better than my long winded reply. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: OT: Swiss to Ban PowerPoint?
Harold Fuchs wrote: From The Times === Referendum to ban PowerPoint planned Marie Tourres and Charles Bremner Paris July 12 2011 12:01AM Do you have a link? It would be interesting to read the full article. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Open Office 2011
= Please reply to list only. = Hi Khan, OpenOffice 2011 is a rework of OpenOffice.org to their packaging. They are allow to charge for it. You are not required to get it from them, you can download directly from www.openoffice.org for no charge other then the time it takes to download. Hope this helps. Andy M.R.R. Khan wrote: Gentlemen, Just today I received an email which informs that Open Office 2011 has been launched. With extreme desire I wanred to download this software, which is effective alternate to MS Office 2010 ! Office Code : 5013 is given to me. But I failed to download, as I do not have any credit card to pay. AND it is almost impossible to remit any forien exchange from Bangladesh. In local software market it is not available. As a citizen of Bangladesh, we have many limitations. Life is not as easy as in other places. I would most humbly request you to kindly give me this software free. It ould be a grate help to this elderly man. I am now 68. I attach my Photo. Please help me. I can download, if downlin is given to me. Thanks, With best regards, M.R.R.Khan Apt.403, 38 Naya Paltan, Dhaka 1000 Bangladesh -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org suggested improvements
Vello Sepp wrote: OpenOffice.org suggested improvements 1 Have Titlecase like Word Under FORMAT CHANGE CASE not just upper and lowercase Options As presently now [it's a PAIN IN THE ASS not having it!!] Be nice if could automatically change 1st letter of each word to upper case instead of having do always go in and do it Manually each 1st letter --Real major PAIN IN THE ASS! 2 OpenOffice.org 3.1 No longer has the ability 2.4 had To open a new window in read only mode Which is great if you don't wanna accidentally clobber For example Something you have just written you're trying to copy and paste into another document Are tired and may make mistakes accidentally overwriting ruining the source Stuff you just wrote. In 3.1 it doesn't work--[it's a PAIN IN THE ASS not having it!!] So I just use 2.4 unless and until you improve 3. whatever I am happy/sorry to tell you that both features are in version 3.3.0. Just checked here with program downloaded directly from OOo's web site. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: OO is too large
Paul Temple wrote: Hi (again - so soon?) I kinda feel strongly about this so thought there's nothing quite like now. I'm not claiming to be unique and haven't read the archives so sorry if this idea is a repeat of someone else's - but even if it is it will just add weight to the idea!!! Why do you not offer to help the developers slim it down? Coming in with guns blazing is no way to encourage others. Download the source code and rewrite in and create your own fork. It is Open Source after all so you can do that. -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: suggestion
max luck wrote: hello , i want to suggest u that why your are not including some mail client software like thunderbird etc. in openoffice to challenge ms-office suite and its office outlook . mail client increase usability of open office. thank u Why reinvent th wheel??? OpenOffice.org's code is already bloated enough and you want to add more. Thunderbird is great on it on it does not need to be included in OOo. -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: idea
Peter Sapper wrote: Hi Guys, First of all thanks for this great FREE!! Product. I'm Turning 40 this year but have never been far away from school. So again last year I signed up for just an other study. Having to make lots and lots of assignments I'm very happy in the use of OpenOffice. Just an Idea I got. Making assignments you always want to make sure to have one or more backups, so saving into separate places (mediums) is required. After adjusting/altering you are never sure that all changes have been saved to all copies. What about a multisave option? (indicate the first time you start a document where (multiple) you want it to be saved and by clicking it will without asking save/update all the copies. Thanks again, Peter Sapper Hi Peter, I think this sounds great but would like to see this set under Tools Option for all documents. A nice touch would be to add a date/time stamp inline with the file name. I suggested this to the company that did the MultiSave extension. The extension, though nice, saves to ODF, MSO and PDF but they all go to the same location. Having the ability to save to one or two alternate locations would be great. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Issue with 3.30
Chris Nancy Howden wrote: Hello, This version of Open Office no longer allows the user to email (“send with” option) a document. Will you be able to correct this in the next version? Thanks, Chris I do not understand what you mean by Send with. There is Send as E-Mail, E-Mail as for ODT, MS Word and PDF. What more do you need? Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Pay for open office ?
Sebastiaan Pot wrote: Hi, I don;t know if it is legal or not, But this website http://openoffice.softnl.com/ sells the openoffice, You can download it for free, but if you want to install this you most pay for it. total price is €4,50 Tis kind of msm things are soon illigale in the netherlands. Hope on response. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Sebastiaan Pot It is quite legal, read the license. -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration?
David B Teague sr wrote: *Now will someone please address the question of what benefit there is to the community to registering? Is it sufficient to fight the difficulty of navigating that damn web site? * David, I am not sure that there is a benefit to the community. And I agree that if they want people to register that it should be easy and fast. Just my 2cents. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
Re: [discuss] SuperbChemistry Add-on Installation????
** Plese reply to the mailing list only ** On Wed Feb 02 2011 11:52:39 GMT-0800 (PST) Douglas Shuck wrote: Hello: I cannot get this add-on to install and OO doesn't seem to know what the Main.xbs file is or what it is supposed to associated with. Can anyone please help? Best Regards, Doug Where did you get the extension? Extensions for OpenOffice.org have the OXT extension so I am not sure the XBS will be recognized by the Extension Manager. HTH Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Updates
On Mon Jan 17 2011 12:29:32 GMT-0800 (PST) Abdul Hai wrote: Hi are updates automatically updated or do I have to manually install them? Which updates? If OOo then there is no update as such you have to download and install the new version. If your referring to the extensions, Extension Manager will let you know if there are updates to any installed extension but you have to tell it to install them. HTH - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Cannot install 3.2 upgrade
On Mon Jan 17 2011 01:44:21 GMT-0800 (PST) Ken Harvey wrote: Dear Sirs, I have downloaded the most recent upgrade files but MS will not permit me to instal them. I get the message exe is not a valid Windows 32 application and I can not get any further. Can you suggest a remedy? I thank you in anticipation of your kind assistance. Ken Harvey. There are no upgrades to OOo, only full install. Go to www.openoffice.org and select Download. Download the file for your system and language. Uninstall the old version of OOo and install the new. HTH - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] very bad
On Sat Jan 08 2011 07:25:23 GMT-0800 (PST) Barbara Duprey wrote: One possibility is for somebody (a moderator or a member of a group who respond to messages from unsubscribed users, either officially or unofficially) to inform the person of how to follow the discussion using Nabble or Gmane. Then no cc'ing would be required. It will also be interesting to see how this works out on LibreOffice, both in the near term (mlmmj-based) and possible Drupal-based implementations. There only the moderator currently knows the poster is not subscribed, there is no Delivered-To: moderator heading. Yes, and the lack there of is a concern for some of us trying to help. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: Adding languages to the Tools = Language = For Selection menu
On Sat Jan 08 2011 20:31:31 GMT-0800 (PST) Stefan Monnier wrote: Go into Tools Selection Font Language (you may have to download additional dictionaries, but they are available). I mean if I select More... from the Tools = Language = For Selection menu and then use the Language box in the Font pane, right? Once you have added Spanish, it will always show up in your list. (I work with English, French, German and Hungarian). In my experience a language only appears in the list if it appears in the current document, or if it's my locale or my default language or my GUI language. So what you say above is not quite right: it will only appear in the menu as long while you edit that document where you applied this other language, and only as long as that language is used somewhere in the document: If I set Language to Spanish on a chunk of text, and then set it back to English, then the menu again only shows French and English. The best I could figure out for now is to carefully choose different languages for the locale, the GUI, and the default document language, which lets you choose up to 3 languages that will always appear in the menu, but at the cost of influencing various aspects of the behavior. Stefan First things first, have you installed the required dictionaries? Tools- Extension Manager, on the lower left click on Get more extensions on-line... Search the site for the dictionaries and install then, click the Add button on the Manager dialog. HTH - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: Propagating knowledge of Open Office?
On Thu Jan 06 2011 15:00:11 GMT-0800 (PST) NoOp wrote: On 01/04/2011 09:18 AM, Robert Derman wrote: Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: ... How do we propagate knowledge that OO exists? Frankly, I suspect that at least 50% of the general public is not aware that Open Source exists! I think that shareware made a bad name for free software and since that time much of the public has simply ignored ALL free software. Also, I don't recall ever seeing anything about OOo or any other free software except perhaps FireFox in the mass media. A story on the evening national TV news, and everyone or nearly everyone, would be aware of it. Or if Oracle would run a couple of national TV adds once 3.3 is released, then people would be aware of it. If Larry really wanted to get Steve B. that would be one sure way to do it. Oracle has the deep pockets that Sun never did, and I think the right kind of advertising campaign might just do it. Like for instance, Oracle saying that they didn't think that people should have to spend a lot of money to have a quality Word Processing program or spreadsheet etc., on their home computer, so thanks to them, here it is as a FREE download. This could create an enormous amount of good will and brand recognition for Oracle, and would likely increase the sales of their profit making products. Probably the best opportunity for this would be the Oracle Racing America's Cup campaign. Oracle Racing/Golden Gate Yacht Club/Ellison et al have chosen San Francisco for the 2013 races. It is suggested that this will generate more than 8,000 jobs 1.2 Billion USD for the San Francisco economy.[1] That of course doesn't include all of the jobs revenue that the competing teams will spend between and the AC. Ellison, San Francisco, Oracle Racing should open the project right and request that all documentation, spreadsheets, etc., etc. use open standards ODF software for proposals, budget spreadsheets, etc., and files will not be accepted in proprietary formats (ala .docx .xlsx etc). That should include all correspondence and the like from contenders, contractors, event organizers, support teams, and the like. In doing that I pretty well guarantee that by the time the AC is held, OpenOffice.org/Oracle Office/LibO, etc., will be pretty common. Of course that won't stop M$ from submitting the same files in ODF, but if literally thousands of M$Office users associated with AC have to save, receive, and transmit in that format, I reckon that they'll quickly learn to accept that as the standard rather than OOXML. Just a thought... Good idea, now if someone with some Power behind them would suggest it. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Small concern
** Please reply to the mailing list only. ** On Tue Dec 21 2010 13:14:03 GMT-0800 (PST) Cliff Bowen wrote: Hi, First off, this is a small complaint, but would be nice if it were changed. Whenever I sort data, I always sort by F, however nearly every time that drop down menu drops it is usually on E or G and it makes me scroll. I sort many many times a day. So having this changed would make my day. Thanks. Cliff Bowen This is not the best place to ask but since you did, what would you suggest to improve the operation? Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] iphone and mac
** Please reply to the mailing list only ** On Mon Nov 22 2010 10:12:02 GMT-0800 (PST) Paul Sports wrote: why cant some of my customers open the files on their iphones or macs? How are you sending them the file? What format are they in? There is a version of OOo for the Mac but not iphone. More details would be helpful. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] JRE error on iMac
On Sun Nov 21 2010 11:44:53 GMT-0800 (PST) Guy Martin wrote: I've installed OO.o on an new iMac iCore 3 processor running Snow Leopard fully updated. When I try to use any of the Wizards or even advanced help I get the following error message: This action requires a JRE to function please install the latest JRE. I'm paraphrasing, but you get the point. I've done extensive research on the MacAddicts and everything points to the fact that a Java evnironment is part of Snow Leopard. How then do I solve this problem since I don't intend to use any Microsoft products on my computer? Regards, G+M Le présent message électronique est confidentiel et peut être couvert par le secret professionnel. Il est à l'usage exclusif du destinataire. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur ou si vous n'en êtes pas le destinataire prévu, vous devez détruire le message et toute pièce jointe ou copie et vous êtes tenu de ne pas conserver, distribuer, divulguer ni utiliser tout renseignement qu'il contient. Veuillez nous informer de toute erreur d'envoi en répondant à ce message. Merci de votre collaboration. Maybe this thread will help, http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=34853 . Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] OOo's Help
On Wed Nov 17 2010 16:40:18 GMT-0800 (PST) David B Teague wrote: On 11/17/2010 2:27 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I still say that there should be a users manual right in the download package. And to keep it to a managable size, it should be in ODF format not PDF and it should be formatted 8.5x11, not 5x7. Also it should be edited down to no more than 100 pages so that the end users might actually decide to print it on hard copy. It would probably be best to just touch lightly on the modules other than Writer, telling the user where to go to download seperate manuals for Calc, Impress, Draw, Base and Math. Thanks. A manual of that dimension would be great. And at least there should be a pointer to a manual that is as you describe. As most folks don't use the other modules except for perhaps Impress, so there should be a page or two on the other modules and a pointer to real manuals. But I agree whole heartedly with the sentiment you express. ODT and PDF versions of all users manuals are available from http://www.oooauthors.org/ , a wiki version is available at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/ . You will need to scroll down a little to see the users guides but they are there. HTH Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Make Wrtite a little better
On Wed Nov 17 2010 16:43:31 GMT-0800 (PST) David B Teague wrote: Your response is both kind and thorough. I'll spend some time playing with Draw. One of the many things I want to do is to put finger numbers on music for the bass. That's fairly straightforward in Paint.net, but not easy in any pdf editor I have access to. I hope it can be done in Draw. --David Just a quick note. Have you checked out the template site? Check out http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/1934 . HTH Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Make Wrtite a little better
* Please reply only to the mailing list * On Mon Nov 15 2010 12:01:08 GMT-0800 (PST) Anders Haneskog wrote: Hello! I want to give you an advice. Maybe you have thought about this before, but I better say whats on my mind. Thanks for your interest in OpenOffice.org. The problem is that no one here can help, unless there is a developer hiding out. You should place such request on the issuezilla, http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/submission_gateway.html as a starting point. You will need to Register on the site to post but that only takes a few minutes. HTH Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] adding my company's label templates to OO
* Please reply only to the mailing list. * On Mon Nov 15 2010 02:44:03 GMT-0800 (PST) Eric Teng wrote: hi OO, Ill like to know how to add label templates to OO just like avery and sigel. we are a labels supplier located in singapore. thanks and regards eric Wrong place to ask, you would need to talk to the developers, start at http://contributing.openoffice.org/programming.html . HopeThisHelps Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: Oracle dropping OO.org and joining the community...
On Thu Oct 28 2010 05:07:32 GMT-0700 (PDT) Peter Lairo wrote: On Mon. 11.10.2010 20:24, RA Brown wrote: There is a users forum at http://libreofficeforum.org/forum . I can't stand forums. Is there also a newsgroup (NNTP) for LibreOffice? Check http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss there are others as well. There are some glitches but you can catch up on what is happening there. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] How to make OO the standard
On Sat Oct 16 2010 08:48:18 GMT-0700 (PDT) Wm Stewart wrote: Hi Marco, I absolutely agree that ODF should be the world-wide standard. But what is the best way to get there? The evidence so far shows it won't happen as long as MS Office is the world-wide standard, ODF plugin or not. However, it would happen much more quickly if OO was the world-wide standard. This is my point. Switch the software and the format will follow. So, first things first. The evidence, including the two links I included in my original post with real user input, strongly shows that the simple way to make OO the world wide standard is to provide it with complete compatibility with existing MS formats, as the first step. Fundamentally I believe embrace and replace is a much more clever and successful strategy than an all or nothing fight, which so far we (OO) are losing - a niche product not widely used in business or government because it is not completely compatible with the facts on the ground - the vast majority of existing documents. How do you propose to make OOo 100% compatible with MSO? The structure of the files is closed so no one but MS has them. Reverse engineering can only do so much. _IF_ MS used a published format that everyone could access then it would be easy to do, but they don't. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] How to make OO the standard
On Sat Oct 16 2010 10:22:44 GMT-0700 (PDT) Wm Stewart wrote: On 10/16/2010 12:07 PM, RA Brown wrote: How do you propose to make OOo 100% compatible with MSO? The structure of the files is closed so no one but MS has them. Reverse engineering can only do so much. _IF_ MS used a published format that everyone could access then it would be easy to do, but they don't. Andy Hi Andy, the main evidence that it can be done is in the history of what has been done: OO is so much more compatible than it was. To go the rest of the way is a matter of solving the issues one by one. For example, most of the remaining issues with Writer are alignment, headers, footers, tables, images, that are misaligned from Word to Writer and vice versa. I'm not saying it is easy, a few minutes work, to fix these issues. I am saying that: a. It can be done by taking input documents with problems and solving them one by one, as the problems already solved have been. b. Solving compatibility is under the community's control and doable, while the hurdle to get the world to change to Microsoft / ODF first is much higher and has not yet worked. c. If we want to win the battle, the two links submitted with my original post show that solving the remaining compatibility issues is necessary. Provide complete compatibility and the world will convert in a relatively short period of time, because of the usual open source advantages - low cost, and lower risk because the software is a shared global resource and not owned by a single company. We've been at this discussion for years now. I believe evidence trumps opinion. We have the same goal, but the evidence shows that putting the format before the software is not what users, business, or government want. And it has not worked. If we embrace and replace, OO will win quickly. Ok. So the developers spend what, several hundred hours fixing the compatibility issues. Next release MS changes the format, as they just did with making even older versions of their on software in compatible and older documents useless. The internet would be totally worthless if MS had their way. Open standards are the only way to level the playing field. As long as MS uses closed standards it can not be done. Look how MS has tried to change the standards with their own, claiming to embrace open standards. OOXML is just one example. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Oracle [NOT!] dropping OO.org
On Thu Oct 14 2010 22:30:26 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marius Popa wrote: Will OpenOffice.org be developed to future final version or will the future final versions replace the future versions of OpenOffice.org? Your question does not make sense. If your asking if LibreOffice will replace OpenOffice.org, that is not up to us. Oracle has said it will continue to work on OOo. The Document Foundation is working on LibreOffice. At this point they are parallels nothing more nothing less. If you want to use OOo then by all means continue to use and support it, I am using and supporting both. Until Oracle says other wish you free to do as you wish, as is anyone else. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Oracle [NOT!] dropping OO.org
On Thu Oct 14 2010 22:14:38 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marius Popa wrote: Is OpenOffice.org a dead project? Not at this time. See http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/177158 . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Oracle dropping OO.org and joining the community...
On Mon Oct 11 2010 09:24:56 GMT-0700 (PDT) Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: Come on, Oracle, do the decent thing. Release all the code, trademarks, everything to OOo back to the community, currently called LibreOffice. If you do - lots of people will thank you. Even the ones who keep going to OpenOffice.org and don't realise it has changed ownership. If you don't - the software of OpenOffice.org will stagnate and the brand name will be ruined. LibreOffice will implement all the stuff Sun has held back due to licensing issues and, unless OO.org simply recompiles and re-badges, LibreOffice will grown and become much stronger. There's nothing to stop you joining the community and still having your own flavour of this great package. It's good karma for all concerned if you do this ;-) Great post but I doubt that anyone at Oracle reads this list. If they do I rally doubt they care what anyone here has to say. It is sad but a fact we have learned to live with. :( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Oracle dropping OO.org and joining the community...
On Mon Oct 11 2010 11:06:15 GMT-0700 (PDT) Carl Shewmaker wrote: I mostly lurk and learn from this list, although I sometimes submit an answer to a question if I think it would be helpful. Small contribution to the community to which like to feel I belong. I also talk up Open Office (and Linux) in the very small market in which I work. Open Office and Linux let me do with modest equipment things that Microsoft and Oracle charge more for than I can afford. How can I help LibreOffice going forward? Carl You can start at http://www.documentfoundation.org/ . They have links there to other areas of the site. On the Contribute page, scroll down a bit and you will find the mailing list. Join any and all that catch your eye. There is a users forum at http://libreofficeforum.org/forum . The OOo forums also support users questions, http://www.oooforum.org/ has been around the longest and is owned by a member of the OOo community. The official forum, http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ is also available for all users. HTH - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] REPLACING WINDOWS
** Reply to the mailing list only discuss@openoffice.org ** On Thu Oct 07 2010 17:19:32 GMT-0700 (PDT) HORACE WILLIAMS wrote: REQUEST BEST OPEN SOURCE ALTERNATIVES TO WINDOWS SYSTEM. THANKS! First you need to quite shouting, it is bad manners and will get you better answers to you questions. Second Best would be an objective answer and not practical, as you will have to decide what is best for you. Have a look at http://distrowatch.com/ and check the available options and make up your own mind. -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] LibreOffice
On Thu Sep 30 2010 09:23:36 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marius Popa wrote: What LibreOffice will be able to do in addition to OpenOffice? When OpenOffice.org 3.3 will appear? I see the beta lasts too long. LibreOffice has some of the more stable code from Go-oo back ported. The Icons or not the official colorless ones seen in 3.2.1 or 3.3.0 beta. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: LibreOffice
On Thu Sep 30 2010 18:57:58 GMT-0700 (PDT) NoOp wrote: On 09/30/2010 09:57 AM, RA Brown wrote: On Thu Sep 30 2010 09:23:36 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marius Popa wrote: What LibreOffice will be able to do in addition to OpenOffice? When OpenOffice.org 3.3 will appear? I see the beta lasts too long. LibreOffice has some of the more stable code from Go-oo back ported. The Icons or not the official colorless ones seen in 3.2.1 or 3.3.0 beta. Andy Which is *very* nice on linux as you don't have to mess with antiquated JMF for sound video as LO uses the gstreamer plugins. In one the forums I tried to point out to a poster that Go-oo was better, but I was basically told I did not know what I was talking about. Not having tried with either I could not prove the point. I had seen you referring to the problems but did not have the references handy. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Idea for Open Office template
** Please reply to discuss@openoffice.org only ** Rebekah Sutherland wrote: Hello: I would like to write a screenplay, and looked through Open Office for a template. You have many helpful templates for writers, but I do not find anything for a screenplay writer. My hope is that you will add a template for screenplay writing to your wonderful resources. Thank you for all that you are doing to make computer use friendly and affordable! Sincerely, R.E. Sutherland, M.Ed. becwo...@gmail.com South Carolina Do none listed at http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/screenplay meet your need? -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Output time 24 hr clock
Robert Stanfield wrote: Folks, How do I output from OO V 3.2 time in 24 hour format to a text or csv file? Specifically, I need to be able to output to a *.csv file time in 24 hr format for later sorting. (I have a need to simply sort a text file in a variety of ways, time being one of them.) First Format the column(cells) to Time 00:00. Sort the rows on the time column. File Save-As for File type select Text CVS (.cvs). Before it saves the file a dialog pops-up that says Export of text files. Near the bottom is a check box that says Save cell contents as shown. Check that and you should see the same format and sorting as the spreadsheet. This was possible in past version, but something happened recently that prevents this. I find it disturbing that Open Office programmers have taken upon themselves to make these kinds of decisions on behalf of users. If this is an option, the user must be given an obvious option to opt out. Sees to still be available but not as one option. For the record, I would also like to suggest that an option to format date as YY/MM/DD or /MM/DD would be valuable. (It sorts simply.) Standard ISO 8601 is available at Format Cells Numbers Date, you have to scroll down to see it but its there. HTH Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] SUM
Bob Runkel wrote: How does one sum a series of columns? I looked at your documentation and could not figure it out. Also, Ho does one multiply two columns? Hi Bob, The first answer is =SUM(1st cell:last cell) . Sample to add from A2 to A6 it would be =SUM(A2:A6). I do not quite understand the second part, Multiply two columns. What are you looking for? Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] templets
bono...@aol.com wrote: I am new to openoffice someone please tell me how to alter document blank to adhere to my collage instructors guidelines and to have them come up in that format all the time The first place to look is http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ . If you do not find what you need there check out the documentation at http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/published . Follow the links till you find the the Working with Styles and the Working with Templates chapters. If you can send me the requirements direct I will see if I can build you a template that will do what you need. Do _not_ send the information through the list. Any other questions _do_ post them back to the list. Also a better place to ask this type of question is the us...@openoffice.org mailing list. -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Workstation installation on Windows
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Anyone can point me to a recent document on network installation for 3.x Most of the ones I see are for old versions of OOo. . Also is it possible to uninstall a module (Base, Draw, Writer) and is it possible to do it on network mode. Regards. Alexandro, Have you tried http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide ? Clayton is also someone to talk to about this. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Slightly OT: MD5 Checksums Firefox 3.5.2
Harold Fuchs wrote: I used to use an MD5 checksum checker that worked as an extension in Firefox (FF). So, for example, I could download OOo and check its checksum with a simple button press in FF. Unfortunately, after upgrading to FF 3.5.2 the extension stopped working. I've looked through the extensions on the Firefox extension page and the ones that look interesting explicitly say not available for Firefox 3.5.2. Any recommendations? Perhaps a non-Firefox solution? I'm on Windows XP Pro and Vista Home Premium. Harold, Check Portabbleapps.com, http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable . Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Open Office -information request
Claire Gilbertson wrote: Hi, I am a master student working with Carlos Jensen in the HCI group at Oregon State University, in conjunction with the OSL on a study of contribution and joining patterns in FOSS. I am working with Jenifer Davids and Nitin Mohan, who you may have talked with in the past. Thank you for all the help you and your community have provided us in our research. Is there a single person or mailing list who I can direct a specific information gathering request to? Thanks, Claire Hi Claire, It would also depend on the information your requesting. This list is mostly users to discuss OpenOffice.org, so might be used if your looking for user related information. The us...@openoffice.org is a user supported help list for problems or questions. The various projects also have their mailing list that can be joined from the project pages. Other list can be found at http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html . HTH Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Banner across my computer screen
Clancy C Arnold wrote: I downloaded and installed OpenOffice 3.2 It took 1 1/2 hours to download and install. I had a banner across my computer screen that says Open Office .org 3.2 (en-US) Installation I re ran the installation which took 45 minutes and I still have the banner that reads Open Office .org 3.2 (en-US) Installation How do I get rid of the banner that is on my computer screen??? Hi Clancy, Where did you download from? I have never see or heard of this problem before. You may also wish to remove you personal information form your sig for mailing list. Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Some idea !
Adam wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Rob Clement r...@robbev.com wrote: Adam we normally bottom post here. To insert page numbers in a document. Step 1 Insert footer Default Step 2 in the footer type Page and a space step 3 Insert Fields Page Number I think that is more or less what you want. I then centre the footer so the literal page and the page number appear in the middle of the page. Thanks Rob Thanks Rob. I tried your suggestion and it puts the page number on the cover sheet which I don't want :( Also, sorry for top posting. Adam Adam, You will need two page styles. On the first/cover page do not add the footer. On the second/body have the footer. It is best to not use the Default page style as these is what OO.o uses when you start a new document. If you want I will send you a sample file that I have setup that you can use to build your own template. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Subscribe to mailing list
Erin Ducharme wrote: Can you please subscribe me to the mailing lists? For the discuss@openoffice.org, can I please be subscribe to the Digest version? Thank you, Erin Hi Erin, No one can subscribe for you, you have to do it. Go to http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html , scroll down till you see the list of mailing list. Select the one you wish to subscribe to. You will receive an auto message that you must reply to, this is to prevent someone causing problems by adding people that do not want to be added. Hope this helps. -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] OpenOffice Suite Question.
Hi Jonathon, jonathon wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 13:22, Joshua Lee wrote: I am wondering why doesn't OpenOffice partner with the Sunbird/Thunderbird team and make that little script I found a permanent add on. The more pertinent question is why the _existing_ Thunderbird/OpenOffice.org partnership hasn't seen fit to publicize that, or any of the other tools that make Thunderbird/SunbirdLightning/OpenOffice.org functionally equivalent to MSO and Outlook. I, and I can guess many others, did not know of a partnership between OpenOffice.org and Mozilla (Thunderbird/Lighting). Where did you find such a relationship? The script that was posted was from a third party that was working independent of either OpenOffice.org or Mozilla. Functionally is in quotes, because Thunderbird is still unable to retrieve email. (When there are over five thousand unread, unretrieved, presumably new messages in an account, the displayed message when attempting to retrieve email should not be No New Messages.) If your having problems with Thunderbird, then post in the proper forum or mailing list at Mozilla. I can not verify your problem as I have never had enough New messages to test the limit. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] OpenOffice Suite Question.
Hi Jonathon, jonathon wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 17:47, RA Brownwrote: If your having problems with Thunderbird, then post in the proper forum or mailing list at Mozilla. I quit posting on Thunderbird (both mailing lists and issuezilla) years ago, when a developer told me flat out that, for the criteria I defined Thunderbird would never ever retrieve email. I don't remember the exact criteria I gave, but it was on the order of retrieving 1 000 emails per hour from each of ten accounts. I am sorry to hear they would not consider your request. I would hate to have than many emails to go through in a day let alone an hour. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Calc Suggestion: Color Sheet Tabs
Hi Sean Sean McClain wrote: I know this is kind of a silly idea, but it should be simple pretty cool. If users had the option of color coding their sheet tabs in Calc then it might make it simpler to navigate when dealing with spreadsheets that have a ton of sheets. This feature must be one added by go-oo as it works here with 3.1.1 under Ubuntu, though not on OO.o 3.2 under Win XP. :( Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Calc - word completion.
A.H.Gilbert wrote: Hi, PLEASE how can I turn word completion off; it's very irritating. I am not on the mailing list so I.d be grateful if you'd email me direct. Hi Howard, Try Tools Cell Contents AutoInput , uncheck and that should fix the problem. -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: Writer- change page color?
Mike Scott wrote: Now I'm wondering - the background colour intended to be printed and the background colour as seen when editing on-screen are not the same thing. Instructions given earlier in this thread will change the printed colour (indeed, cheaper to use coloured paper!), but is this what the OP wanted -- he specifically said when I editing. Did he just want a more restful screen background? Options | Appearance if so. Mike, I think you hit the nail on the head, I read the original post the same way. I did not think to follow you path to get the job done. I just hope the OP is following, if not replying. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Writer- change page color?
Harold Fuchs wrote: RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote in message news:4c1e8c10.1000...@the-martin-byrd.net... Mike Scott wrote: Now I'm wondering - the background colour intended to be printed and the background colour as seen when editing on-screen are not the same thing. Instructions given earlier in this thread will change the printed colour (indeed, cheaper to use coloured paper!), but is this what the OP wanted -- he specifically said when I editing. Did he just want a more restful screen background? Options | Appearance if so. Mike, I think you hit the nail on the head, I read the original post the same way. I did not think to follow you path to get the job done. I just hope the OP is following, if not replying. Andy If the OP only wants the background blue while editing then I *guess* the only way is to formatpagebackgroundblue, do the editing and then *remember* to revert the page background before printing.Or is there some other way? Using the Tools Options Appearance, as stated above, does not require that the background be changed when printing or saving. The whole page has the color selected instead of just printable area. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: fixes needed
Mark C. Miller wrote: On 06/07/2010 05:15 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: By the way, many people have had serious layout problems when they go from one version of MS Office to another, and some of the older MS Office documents can't be read at all by the newer versions. I've seen this comment here before about reverse compatibility with new MS Office products. I've never been able to pin it down. The Microsoft website will obviously not talk about it. It seems that for every reference I can find that brings this up, there is another saying that there is no problem. I'd like to hear for sure what we're talking about. If I can get specific information, it might help me convince my employer to look at OOo. tnx mcm Hi Mark, I found the following link in an article about the changes with Office 2003 SP 3. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938810/en-us links from http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/01/137257 . The MS work-around seems to confirm there will be problems with older file formats. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] [Ubuntu] Remove OOo Draw from the default install?
NoOp wrote: Rather interesting thread going on over on the Ubuntu dev discuss list... http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.discuss/11493 [Remove OO Draw from the default install] I've not commented on the thread (yet) as I find Draw to be quite a nice addition to OOo. Comments/thoughts? I agree with you, NoOp, it is bad enough that they do not install Base. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Open Office
newsd...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I would like to know if Open Office for iPad is planned ? Thanks. Porting to the iPAD would require special approval from Apple and is not likely to happen. -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Open Office
Bruce Martin wrote: As I understand it, an iPAD is a hand held MP3 player. This is not to be confused with an iPAQ, made by Hewlett-Packard. The latter device is a PDA that uses Windows Mobile as an O.S. and links on windows with MS Outlook, amongst other things. The capabilities of the latter are much more than the iPAD as far as I know, but the price is also accordingly much more. An iPAD is the newest release from Apple. It is basically a table PC with a touch screen or an advanced book reader. It uses WiFi to connect to the Internet for web browsing. It can connect to a Mac using firewire to sync files. I am not sure what other apps can be loaded. The iPOD is an MP3 player. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] degree sign
Carl Shewmaker wrote: I need to insert a degree sign in several places in a document I'm composing in OOo 2.4 on an HP mini running Ubuntu, and have run out of ideas. Gotta be an easy way. Any help appreciated. Carl Carl, Does 2.4 not have the Insert Special Character option? If so you should be able to use it to insert, based on the font used, just about any thing you want. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] fsoss.senecac.on.ca
+1 It sure sounds good to me. Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: All, The big annual Free Software and Open Source Symposium will be held this October 28-29 in Toronto.[0] Hosted by Seneca College, a leader in teaching open source to college students, this year's would mark the 6th or so event, and each is larger and draws more international and Canadia developers, contributors, interested parties working in nearly all fields touched by Foss. Last year, there was an important focus on accessibility, and a miniconference held more or less concurrently on open source and accessibility proved very productive. This year, I want a focus on OOo (it's our tenth year, let's go for it) and ODF. We can make this happen by submitting strong proposals and arranging panels. I'm also working with the organizers at Seneca College to see what can be done to establish an OOo focus. And the timing is right: Provinces and municipalities here up in Canada are seriously considering the ODF and OOo (and its variants). Edmonton is but the latest and so far most public about its consideration. Finally, ODF 1.2 will be likely approved by the Oasis TC this summer. So now we'll have post-1.2 to look at, and I would think that we can use this event--Fsoss--as one of a series of sounding boards for that. [0] http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2010/ http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2010/PresentationProposal Cheers, Louis -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Development Manager, Oracle OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] suggestion
JohnnieMiller wrote: i'm using OpenOffice.Org version 3.2.0, build 9483 much clipped Thats it. Hopefully I didn't put too fine a point on it. I made a point of only giving you the facts and nothing but the facts. Clean, clear,crisp and to the point. Clarity free from editorialism. yep, in law circles i think this would be a fine example of Reason free from passion. Case made. Now I hope you'll fix it before you close the case on DropDown AutoFill Madness. Johnnie Miller Mineola, Tx johnniemil...@fastmail.fm Hi Johnnie, Have you tried turning off the Word completion feature under the Auto Correct dialog? Tools - AutoCorrect Options then the Word Completion tab. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] OOo and Oracle
Bruce Martin wrote: In a previous email here, I got the understanding that there is a visibility problem with some of the icons in Oo 2.3.1. If these are true icons, they can be edited in Gimp or even recreated with Oo draw, then exported to Gimp to make the final new Icons. Can anyone send me some samples of the offensive Icons, and I will see what I can do with them. Please send your return email address, or that of the person to whom the results should be sent. If there is text involved in Languages other than English, French and Spanish, Please send a table of the other languages and the appropriate texts for those languages. If there are languages that need RTL or Multi‑byte, I hope there is someone who can edit, as I am not set up for these categories. Bruce, As a member of the OO.o community thanks for the offer, though the Art list would be a better place to get involved. The problem seems to be that the Icons have been decided on and that is what we are going to have to live with. :( Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] UI questions/concerns
To those that have posted about the OpenOffice.org user interface and related messages. To get your points across to where it will do more good connect to the User Experience Project at http://ux.openoffice.org/ . I am not sure how many, if any of the people working on the UX project read or even scan this mai1ing list. -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] information need about open office
aude pozzo wrote: Dear Sir, I am currently studying a master in Management at the University Paris Dauphine (France). During my Information System class, I have to make a file dealing with open source softwares. Open office is for me the perfect example: well-known, used by students... but I need some information about this system... could you help me? Thank you very much for your time Do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further information Regards Aude Pozzo di Borgo aude.po...@gmail.com Hi Aude, First this is a mailing list, not a direct email for information. The best place to find out all there is about is on the OpenOffice.org web site, www.openoffice.org . From the main page there are links to just about anything about OO.o. If you have specific questions come back to the list and ask them, the volunteers here are always glad to help. Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] User Poll
Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Andy, * Do you know about the extension repository ? Yes I am aware of the repositories. I was not aware of the voting results and will check them out. They provide voting results http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/highestratedreal as well as download numbers http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/most_pop_ext This might serve even better than a poll here on the list. I am not to sure of download counts. I have downloaded a lot from both repositories that I only loaded long enough to see what they were. Others that I still have loaded are not used. What I was trying to do, to not great avail, was find out what is actually being used. I'd like to ask people using some extensions or templates to vote for them on the repositories, so the votings would become more valid just because of the higher number of votes. If people actually voted for the extensions they use on a regular basis that would be better. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] User Poll
Dear OpenOffice.org users, I provide installation disk for those that may not have access to a high speed internet connection. What I want to do is add extensions and templates to the disk. What I would like to get fellow users to send me a list of three extensions and templates that they use. I would then add the top ten from each to the disk. If you can take the time to send me, either in this list, or direct at a...@the-martin-byrd.net I would appreciate it greatly. Thank you. -- Andy Brown La Mesa, CA 91942 www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html OpenOffice.org Community Distributor CD/OEM Distribution Project member Documentation Project member Marketing Project member User Experience Project member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: Windows OO won't open file format that Ubuntu OO will.
Gordon wrote: Clarke Rice wrote: Hi Gordon, One version is probably the OpenOffice.org version, compiled by Sun. The other (with Works import) is most likely the Go-oo.org version, compiled by Novell and including a few pieces of code that for reasons best known to the people involved, are not accepted in the 'mainstream' version yet. Interesting - the OO in Ubuntu 9.10 IS by Sun yet it has the Works document importer - the Sun OO on Windows does NOT. Check out http://go-oo.org/ for more information. There is a Windows version available as well. -- Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] RE
Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at discuss@openoffice.org Salil Mahajan wrote: Hi All, I am very pleased to inform you that we are now the part of Microsoft OEM and we need your Open Office to be get installed in our pre-installed kits. Can you please help me to get licensed by your Company. Please reply as soon as possible Regarding this. Salil, Not sure what your talking about here since OpenOffice.org does not require you to be licensed to install OpenOffice.org. If you wish to join the distribution project have a look at http://projects.openoffice.org/index.html#distribution . It is requested, but not required to do so. If you do join the project you will want to subscribe to the mailing lists so that you can keep up on the current news. -- Andy Brown La Mesa, CA 91942 www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html OpenOffice.org Community Distributor CD/OEM Distribution Project member Documentation Project member Marketing Project member User Experience Project member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] use OO through the net
Wunna Ko wrote: It won't be for remote desktop. Things like google doc, web office from Ulteo depends on connection. I didn't mean for it. My idea is to replace Downloading. When the we publish new versions, the users will no longer need to download. We will put it in sync folder and the user can start using it. It will save the users from installing it and we from crushing the server (as we faced during 3.1 publish). I am now testing it among my friends. I will let you guys know the result in near future. Regards, I am confused now. You either download it or use it on line. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Impress Organization Charts - Key to replace PowerPoint
Wm Stewart wrote: Hi, I've copied below our input on: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=33825 since I believe this issue is so important. Feedback greatly appreciated. Anyone know if this is in the works? At http://Eseri.com/ we have integrated a full FOSS organization in a box to help FOSS compete with Microsoft across the board. However our experience is that the lack of an Organization Chart capability in Impress, and compatibility with the PowerPoint version of this feature, to be the number one issue holding back wide-spread customer embrace of OpenOffice. More info: While Writer and Calc compatibility with MS Office is now very good, greatly moving it forward as a suite that can interoperate without risk, Impress compatibility with Powerpoint is much less solid. Business users of MS Office use PowerPoint a lot, and often create organization charts with its builtin tool, found under Insert / Picture / Organization Chart. These organization charts do not come across to Impress - the lines get reformatted all over the place - and they cannot be edited and sent back to an MS Office user. (I'd be glad to provide example files, and/or provide any other examples requested on Impress / PPT compatibility in general.) The reasons the Powerpoint Org Chart tool is so useful is mainly two-fold: 1. The automated layout capability is an order of magnitude more convenient than manually creating and then editing a chart in any drawing package. You can select a branch, and automatically change with one click the layout of the whole branch or entire chart to right-side, left-side, or standard layout. All alignment is automatically taken care of. Very useful. 2. You can also select a branch and drag it in entirety to another node of the org chart, and the entire branch moves with all alignment against the rest of the chart, and the rest of the chart moved around to make room, again automatically so everything is equally spaced and aligned. I don't downplay the effort to replicate this or make it work seamlessly with a PowerPoint org chart that has been imported. Our input is simply that both of these - replication and compatibility - are very significant issues, and addressing them would go a very, very long way to enabling the majority of users to move from MS Office to OpenOffice without any barrier, trouble, or risk on the presentation software side. Embrace and replace! We request that the urgency of this issue be raised and addressed as a priority issue. Cheers, Bill Stewart Eseri CEO -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org Bill, While this list is a good place to get feedback on this issue getting it on the User Experience mailing list may help to get it done. I will be adding a vote for this issue as I feel that it is needed, in Draw as well as Impress. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] *FYI* Site selling your software
M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, December 2, 2009 10:40 pm, Javier Bustamante wrote: It looks like this site is trying to sell your software for $9.99 http://www.openoffice2007.com/index.html Javier, towards the end of that page there is a statement that says that it is fully legal for them to charge for OpenOffice and it is correct. Of course, the fact that they don't mention that you can download the same thing for free (not to mention the look of that webpage...) don't make them look particularly professional, but they can indeed legally do it. Thanks for the information, of course! Best Regards, Marco Fioretti Marco, The also have the name wrong, Open Office not OpenOffice.org. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
