Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

2010-10-01 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Sophie, *, Sophie schrieb: Carolina Flores Hine wrote: [..] So, of course, the scenario will be better if Oracle gives the trademark to the community, but if we have to wait a month for that to happen, the situation will still be complicated. In that case, it may be better if we start

Re: [tdf-discuss] New GUI for OOo/Libreoffice....

2010-10-02 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Mike, *, Mike Houben schrieb: Hey you all, I'm starting to make some scratches, but i need some help with your ideas from your point of vue. You knew the GUI of Microsoft's Office and the one Apple has done. Have you some things you like to have also in the GUI of our app? do you like to

Re: [tdf-discuss] User participation - bugtracking (was:LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions)

2010-10-02 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2010-10-01 6:23 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [.. Bugtracker ..] OOo wasn't really that hard to get, compared to other bug reports the form is pretty standarized. [..] I have used more than a few bug reporters, and Openoffice.orgs was terribly

Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

2010-10-02 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2010-10-01 6:02 PM, Jon Hamkins wrote: [..] I would be very surprised (and delighted) if they donated the trademark. Based on what they said so far, I consider it unlikely. The more I think about it, the more I disagree. If Oracle had simply donated

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-02 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Mirek, *, Mirek M. schrieb: 2010/10/2 Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.comlohmaier%2booofut...@googlemail.com On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really excited about the project, but I'm a bit concerned about the name. What concerns me is

Re: [tdf-discuss] New GUI for OOo/Libreoffice....

2010-10-02 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Scott, *, Scott Furry schrieb: On 02/10/10 01:45 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Mike Houben schrieb: This was the Question asked.. Hey you all, I'm starting to make some scratches, but i need some help with your ideas from your point of vue. You knew the GUI of Microsoft's Office

Re: [tdf-discuss] User participation - bugtracking

2010-10-02 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi André, *, André Schnabel schrieb: Am 02.10.2010 22:07, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: I heavily support this idea. I also saw different bugtracking systems. None of them can serve users, because all are developer tools to manage bugs and enhancement requests in a effective way. Thus each

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Varun, *, Varun Mittal schrieb: I have been reading the arguments and come to a simple suggestion. Lets create a poll( a lot of free sites, out there), and let everyone vote. We can list all the suggested names and whichever is preferred by community be acceptable I'm not amused to see

[tdf-discuss] Godot's official statement (was:New name)

2010-10-05 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Andy, *, Andy Brown schrieb: On Tue Oct 05 2010 14:10:26 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 17:03 -0700 schrieb Andy Brown: On Mon Oct 04 2010 16:29:37 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: [..] The article only states Oracle said it was investing

[tdf-discuss] List-ID of this Mailinglist has changed - intentionally?

2010-10-06 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hello listadmins, all, ID of this mailinglist has changed, so the filter doesn't grip anymore. it was: List-ID: discuss@documentfoundation.org Now it is: List-ID: discuss.documentfoundation.org Accident or intetion? Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Ansprechpartner / contact person for the

Re: [tdf-discuss] List-ID of this Mailinglist has changed - intentionally?

2010-10-06 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Simos, *, Simos Xenitellis schrieb: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: ID of this mailinglist has changed, so the filter doesn't grip anymore. [..] Accident or intetion? The first e-mail you received from the discuss mailing list

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO beta deb packages causes freeze using pdf-export and several menu entries

2010-10-07 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Scott, *, Scott Furry schrieb: On 06/10/10 05:06 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Hi All, does anyone else experience frozen windows using pdf-export and file - save as menuentry? file - open doesn't start as doesn' the related icon System: Linux kubuntu 7.10 LibreOffice

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-07 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Thorsten, *, Thorsten Behrens schrieb: as we start to ramp up more infrastructure, I'd like to make you think about what's crucially needed to do QA for LibreOffice 3.3. First of all, this is what we currently have: stretched * a LibreOffice technical list (I'd like to have devs QA

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-07 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, sending a mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org shows the possible options, which is a feature of ezmlm. Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2010-10-07 9:49 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: I think it is not a good idea to burden mailinglist software with a full featured user

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO beta deb packages causes freeze using pdf-export and several menu entries

2010-10-07 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Scott, *, Scott Furry schrieb: On 07/10/10 07:08 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: [.. Issues PDF-Export, menu, LibO 3.3 beta ..] I ride KDE-3.5.8 here the list of installed packages: ~$ aptitude search libreoffice lobas | grep ^i And that ones remaining: ~$ aptitude search

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-07 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Per, *, Per Eriksson schrieb: [..] I am not sure if Mozilla offer out-of-the-box updating for Firefox on Linux? You have to fetch the linux file from Mozilla and unpack it in a folder where you have write permissions. Call it, use it, update it, - be happy :o)) Gruß/regards -- Friedrich

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Jean, *, Jean Hollis Weber schrieb: [.. clear text mailadresses in tdf mailarchive ..] To answer Scott's original question: It's not something that concerns me personally. My many email addresses are all over the internet, so having my address harvested from another list makes no

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Goran, *, Goran Rakic schrieb: У пет, 08. 10 2010. у 08:56 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber пише: Many of the other lists that I subscribe to have the email addresses given as something like j...@ in the archives. However, the OOo archives have them in plain text. I believe this should

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Nguyen Vu Hung, *, hope this is the correct appellation.. first of all: I'm not involved in Software development and neither in QA *therefore* I'm answering here. :o)) Nguyen Vu Hung schrieb: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *, Florian Effenberger schrieb: Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there a SPAMMODE option: http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html +1 Honestly, I disagree. Hiding mail addresses

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Gianluca Turconi, *, Gianluca Turconi schrieb: [..] Therefore, I had to unsubscribe form all TDF lists, create a new address for these lists and then subscribe to them again. Woff... :( Too late! You missed the train. Your old (former good) mailadress is online - well prepared food for the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-09 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Volker, *, Volker Heggemann schrieb: Hi Florian, same problem at my side. I couldn't get out of the digest list?! I don't know why? what was the link used for unsubscribing digest uses a link different from the one in the footer of each mail. Send a mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Larry, *, Larry Gusaas schrieb: Then why did you set up Gmane in the first place? Why not do it properly in the first place? for the others which want to read by nntp and don't worry to be subscribed. -- Just ignore it! :o)) Nowhere on

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Mirek, *, Mirek M. schrieb: Well, I'm a Czech and my native language is Czech. The problem I have with LibreOffice is that it's just hard to pronounce. I'm not very good at saying the French r, so I try to say LibreOffice with an English accent, which doesn't sound very good either.

Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] Steering Committee Info at the wiki

2010-10-13 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Benjamin, *, Benjamin Horst schrieb: This is exactly why I suggested we look at multiple wiki engines before installing one and proceeding. ACL features of Foswiki make it easy to specify a separate set of pages or an individual page, and control who has edit access, view access, or no

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribe [was: Multilingualism...]

2010-10-21 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2010-10-20 6:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: This line has been modified because there is a different way to unsubscribe from digest lists. We had a thread here complaining about digest users couldn't unsubscribe at all. ?? That makes no sense. Each

Re: [tdf-discuss] Changed footer of listmails

2010-10-26 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Barbara, *, Barbara Duprey schrieb: On 10/26/2010 1:31 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Hi TDF enthusiasts, I changed the footer for mails of this list. [..] I'd prefer having a wiki page containing a short 3 step guide summarizing that tipps and link there. If somebody would set up one

Re: [tdf-discuss] Changed footer of listmails

2010-10-27 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Barbara, *, Barbara Duprey schrieb: On 10/26/2010 4:18 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Barbara Duprey schrieb: [..] I notice that the footer has gone back to implying that +help will accomplish the unsubscribe, rather than providing instructions -- this was fixed before, I'm not aware

Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...

2010-11-15 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Jonathan, *, Jonathan Aquilina schrieb: Random thought here. im willing to donate some webspace to a wordpress setup for the project. i have experience in making the site look less like a blog and more like a proper website and there are some really killer themes available for wordpress.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice bits ...

2010-11-16 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Italo, *, Italo Vignoli schrieb: Bruce Byfield wrote: [.. intersting question ..] Copying to the marketing@ and discuss@ mailing lists. Not a good idea. On each of that lists users will miss (interesting) answers, they can only find fiddling around with several lists. In case of casual

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont

2010-11-19 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *, Florian Reisinger schrieb: This is the right link: http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/fontstructions/show/332612Kind regards I get: Sign In http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/sign_in/show_fontstruction Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont

2010-11-19 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Mateusz, *, Mateusz Zasuwik schrieb: Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb: I get: Sign In http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/sign_in/show_fontstruction Try http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/fontstructions/show/332612 ;) works better! Thanks :o)) Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Craig, *, Craig A. Eddy schrieb: On 11/20/2010 07:59 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: Am 20.11.2010 15:51, schrieb Craig A. Eddy: there is no obvious way to start to install the files. Dependencies for each .deb have to be met, but nothing indicates the order with which to install them. When

[tdf-discuss] changed footers of all documentfoundation and libreoffice.org mailing lists

2010-11-20 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all, I changed the footers of all documentfoundation.org and libreoffice.org mailinglists according to this one. For I did so by script, please report if you notice funny things ;o)). I skipped the posting guidelines line because it links to an external target. Within a few days I will put

Re: [tdf-discuss] New support list suggestion

2010-11-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 11/19/2010 7:16 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Charles Marcus schrieb: I'd really like to see an email support list dedicated solely to questions in the nature of I know how to do this in Excel/Word/Powerpoint, but how do I do it on

Re: [tdf-discuss] Version Numbers?

2010-11-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian Reisinger, *, This mail arrived completely screwed up! I'm sure no one made the effort to read it. Florian Reisinger schrieb: [.. screwed content ..] Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images (german version already

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi René, *, René Engelhard schrieb: [.. depency question ..] Nope. Really, I expect anybody having root on a Debian-based system to know dpkg. Seriously. So you'd recommend everybody just running a desktop machine and not wanting to get a full featured serveradmin to abhore debian? It would

Re: [tdf-discuss] New support list suggestion

2010-11-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Michael, *, Michael Wheatland schrieb: If I may throw in my 2c. Welcome! :o)) As a part of the official LibreOffice Drupal website development we will be creating a QA area where there are standard questions and answers, but it will also give people the opportunity to ask their own

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Michael, *, Michael Wheatland schrieb: René Engelhard schrieb: Nope. Really, I expect anybody having root on a Debian-based system to know dpkg. Seriously. [..] You were responding *my* mail not referring to my contents. Please take care for clear communication. Gruß/regards --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi René, *, René Engelhard schrieb: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:15:25PM +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: So you'd recommend everybody just running a desktop machine and not wanting to get a full featured serveradmin to abhore debian? No, I want desktop users to know how to use their system

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-23 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi René, *, René Engelhard schrieb: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 07:34:13PM +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: From a geeks point of view You are right. But I'm shure that it is not a good idea to make all people out there geeks before using a computer or using office software ;o)). Ah, so we

[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Community driven Project (was:Request: Installation Instructions)

2010-11-23 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Italo, *, Italo Vignoli schrieb: [..] The fact that I am technically illiterate (and I like being so) does not make me a worse user, or one with less rights. Communities around the world have made OOo a better product because they have cared about users, although the project was clearly

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist

2010-11-23 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Christian Lohmaier, *, Christian Lohmaier schrieb: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Gmail very capable for mailing lists. Except for the very one drawback you just demonstrated: When changing the subject, gmail will break the thread (start

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-24 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Marco, *, M. Fioretti schrieb: [..] as I already said, more than promoting any support mode as the only one, my proposal is more limited to NOT making useless/embarassing the email mode. Right now, the only other proposals that come to my mind to make support as efficient as possible

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-27 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Robert, *, Robert Derman schrieb: [.. big snip ..] P.S. I hope we can find a company or group of volunteers that can make an LO package available on disk. Regarding ISO-files for burning disks: good news for You. We offered such ISO files for german language OpenOffice.org installer,

Re: [tdf-discuss] accessibility mailing list

2010-11-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Sigrid, *, Thanks for clarification.. Sigrid Carrera schrieb: 2010/11/29 Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de might be I don't understand accesibility well.. yes, perhaps. Accessibility refers to people who have some disabilities, like bad eyesight, so you need a screen

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why is LO/OOo so slow loading a spreadsheet?

2010-12-04 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi plino, *, plino schrieb: Another topic ignored? Maybe a mailing list isn't the right tool... Maybe? It's good and recommended practice in mailinglists only to answer, if knowing an answer. Many search engine hits I found, show: this isn't on forums. ;o)) Happy if not having to read one.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why is LO/OOo so slow loading a spreadsheet?

2010-12-04 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi plino, *, plino schrieb: Maybe the right list would help. Try the users list, [hidden email] or ask the developers, [hidden email] . That is exactly my point. In a forum,anyone could answer. wrong. anyone *which is reading* - same thing in a mailinglist. :o)) [..] Gruß/regards --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: deb installer - have to manually modify link

2010-12-06 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Marc, *, Marc Paré schrieb: Le 2010-12-06 04:48, Rainer M Krug a écrit : [..] Would it be possible to provide one link to the .deb and on to the rpm on the download page? I agree. I use the RPM version and it works quite well for this, but it would also be nice to put a Linux DEB

Re: [tdf-discuss] deb installer - have to manually modify link

2010-12-06 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Stefan, *, Stefan Weigel schrieb: Am 06.12.2010 12:21, schrieb Sebastian Spaeth: On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:52:25 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: Try the other download page http://www.test.libreoffice.org/download/ I get: Page not found Sorry, it seems you were trying to access a page that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi David, *, David Nelson schrieb: [.. libreoffice.org website lauch delay issues ..] We're going to get this site on the road really quickly now. That are good news! :o)) Thanks for feeding the engine with gasoline. :o)) Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi RGB ES, *, RGB ES schrieb: It is clear you cannot please everyone: the list of problems you see on forums is almost the same list of problems I usually see on mailing lists... Every communication system have the same merits and defects of the people using it. Nothing more, nothing less. The

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, I should never write mails before having the second cup of coffee. Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-01-17 7:50 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: [..] What the hell does You make thinking that? They are different - yes but more useful? It again depends on who does what! I'm

Re: [tdf-discuss] An Interesting Mockup

2011-01-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Zaphod, *, Zaphod Feeblejocks schrieb: [.. side oriented toolbar ..] Granted, the current LibO/OOo interface looks dated, but people know their way round it - at least the know how to find the things they use. Some things are far too clumsy (e.g. mail- merging). A sudden change would

[tdf-discuss] New year - new listmailfooter

2011-01-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi community, a new year has started - at least for some of us, and I'll take a new attempt of finishing the footers of the List emails. We decided to have an additional line containing a link to a project wikipage providing posting guidelines like netiquette/quoting and other helpful

Re: [steering-discuss] relocating mailing lists at libreoffice.org?

2011-01-18 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *, Florian Effenberger schrieb: [..relocating Mailadresses..] There are two options for this issue: a.) We could use @libreoffice.net or some other domain ending (TLD) for those e-mail addresses b.) We move the mailing lists @libreoffice.org to some subdomain

Re: [tdf-discuss] New year - new listmailfooter

2011-01-18 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Fabián, *, Fabián Rodríguez schrieb: On 11-01-17 02:56 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: [.. footer ..] There is already one from the german language project: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mailinglists/Netiquette/de As I'm not familiar with naming conventions of the wikipages

Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-18 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Jonathan, *, Jonathan Aquilina schrieb: On 01/17/2011 11:30 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: 2011/1/16 Friedrich Strohmaierdamokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de Charles-H. Schulz schrieb: Le Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:23:02 +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de a écrit : Olivier

Re: [tdf-discuss] New year - new listmailfooter

2011-01-23 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
thinking of. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mailinglists/Netiquette/de Bottom post for completeness. Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb: Fabián Rodríguez schrieb: [..] This page should provide information on how to make yours compliant with the multilingual conventions for the wiki: http

Re: [tdf-discuss] New year - new listmailfooter

2011-01-23 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Andrea, *, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: If You think, it beeing a good thing to have a posting guidelines pointer in the footer, then I'll be glad to put it in there for all active Mailinglists. I agree it's a good thing to have it, and I suggest to seize

Re: [tdf-discuss] Best time for Conference Calls

2011-01-30 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Michael, *, Michael Wheatland schrieb: I thought I would put forward a view regarding the best time for conference calls being held world wide. The current situation regarding the conference calls is such that the people situated in South-East Asia and Australia need to be awake at 3-4AM to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Need for more compound words for spellcheck dictionary.

2011-03-02 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Robert, *, I'm not very deep involved in spellchecking, but nevertheless trying a shot.. Robert Derman schrieb: RGB ES wrote: AFAIK, LibO dictionaries are the same dictionaries from OOo. If you have a custom dictionary where you added the words you miss, you can import (I mean, copy to

Re: [tdf-discuss] New project list

2011-03-03 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Sophie, *, Sophie Gautier schrieb: In order to better coordinate the work between the different language projects we have settled a new list: proje...@libreoffice.org: [..] please subscribe to this list by sending a mail to: projects+subscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org shure You wanted

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 03/09/2011 02:07 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: 1. Moderation via e-mail is not comfortable. It especially requires one password shared among all moderators, which is inconvenient. Why is this inconvenient? Shared password *never* is a good idea.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Marco, *, M. Fioretti schrieb: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 15:16:35 PM +0100, Christian Lohmaier (lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com) wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:05 AM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 1. Why are unsubscribed posts even allowed? It would seem that folks would have learned

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, NoOp, *, Florian Effenberger schrieb: NoOp wrote on 2011-03-10 06.10: [..] If you have a good proposal, let me know. We, however, tried every solution, and mlmmj seemed best. +1 What we, and that's where I agree with you, need is some web interface that helps users in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-10 8:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: The one situation where unsubscribing is difficult is when the reply asking for confirmation to unsubscribe is flagged as spam and thus not sorted to the user's inbox, but then again that's not the fault

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-11 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-11 9:52 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Charles Marcus schrieb: So change the footer to something like: Unsubscribe: E-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org List Help: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-11 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-11 4:16 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: I have seen no - ZERO - reasonable explanation as to how this causes *more* trouble... please reiterate... O.K.: All subscribers not subscribed for normal mail will get trouble. recall: no universal

Re: [tdf-discuss] How to pronounce the name (again, sorry)

2011-03-27 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Stefan, Samphan, *, Stefan Weigel schrieb: Am 27.03.2011 08:22, schrieb Samphan Raruenrom: I found this page http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/faq/general-faq/how-do-you-prono unce-libreoffice/ that link to Google translate to provide the (official?) pronouncement. I don´t think,

[tdf-discuss] Get and appove: recommended Soundfile pronouncing LibreOffice

2011-03-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all, there were several requests regarding the correct pronunciation of LibreOffice. The name LibreOffice was choosen by minds mainly from roman/german language area and of course there are no relevant pronunciation issues for those. But there are sometimes heavy ones for minds of other

Re: [tdf-discuss] Get and appove: recommended Soundfile pronouncing LibreOffice

2011-03-30 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all, Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb: [..] My proposal: lets collect proposals for soundfiles pronouncing LibreOffice and have a simple voting for the one we point to, if people ask. This can be Files created by community members or some found in the internet. The first may be preferable

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: How to pronounce the name (again, sorry)

2011-04-01 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: Can we please stop with all of this nonsense about how to pronounce the name? Your approach is valid, it's however strongly off-topic in this list. You might post it at r...@documentfoundation.org where it is highly appreciated! Subscribe by issuing a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Get and appove: recommended Soundfile pronouncing LibreOffice

2011-04-01 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Henri, *, M Henri Day schrieb: 2011/4/1 Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/1 dionysien jean-francois.bour...@univ-paris8.fr [..] The component words of LibreOffice, though quite common

[tdf-discuss] Clever quoting (was: LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS)

2011-04-03 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Jaime, *, Jaime R. Garza schrieb: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:53, Valter Mura valterm...@gmail.com wrote: [.. complete mail block qouted ..] About the top quote, it this how it's supposed to be? Isn't it better the other way? At least for me it is. In short: Put comments inline the quoted

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi aqualung, *, aqualung schrieb: Charles-H. Schulz wrote: But there are existing LibreOffice and OpenOffice forums. I still don't get the point. Why aren't the users of LibreOffice being told about them? Whom do You accuse here? www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ is the Help page. Let's see

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi aqualung, *, aqualung schrieb: [..] Anyway, I'm glad that people are responding. I guess it proves the adage, the squeaky wheel gets the grease Tell you what, give me the keys to that page and I'll fix it for ya. Do You have an account on the CMS? If not, someone might have the link at

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Pieter, *, Pieter E. Zanstra schrieb: From: e-letter [mailto:inp...@gmail.com] What's wrong with reading mailing list messages in digest mode and going to the searchable archive as and when appropriate. Because people never keep focus in email, texting and twitter. Those are the worst

[tdf-discuss] New technical home for http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/?? (was: Re: Forums - A Different Question)

2011-05-03 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi NoOp, *, NoOp schrieb: On 04/30/2011 01:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Has Oracle given permission for TDF to use its forum, or doesn't TDF need such permission? Does TDF *want* to use an Oracle resource? I think Drew has already explained this on multiple mailing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Sponsored Issues

2011-05-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Samuel, *, Samuel M schrieb: Thanks, shall I write to this list or to steering-discuss? This list is the right place for that. - Ursprüngliche Message - Von: Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de Samuel M schrieb: [.. TOFU

Re: [tdf-discuss] Fwd: [Libreoffice] Returned mail: see transcript for details

2011-05-12 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Rainer, *, Rainer Bielefeld schrieb: Hello, from time to time I get a mail with information that my account has been used for SPAMming. The attached instructions letter.zip have been deleted by my email-provider (I believe with good reasons). Any idea what that might mean and what can

Re: [tdf-discuss] German Foreign Office is dropping only open source software policy

2011-05-13 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi plino, *, plino schrieb: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/227849/open_source_advocates_angry_at_german_govt_decision.html This isn't even about OpenOffice vs LibreOffice... It's about Closed Source vs Open Source right.. TBH I think it was a bad move to change radically

[tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-15 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi e-letter, *, e-letter schrieb: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:36 PM, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: [..] When can someone improve mailing list behaviour with web mail clients like gmail??? Well I did some testing. Might be it's a good Idea to find the reason *before* declaring the mailing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient?

2011-05-16 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *, Did You read the mails? I'm in first steps to reproduce e-letters problem with answering digest mails. Florian Effenberger schrieb: Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-05-15 15.55: But as long as nobody claims base64 encoded mailcontent beeing improper mail handling

Re: [tdf-discuss] Any wikipedia members/contributors here?

2011-05-20 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi NoOp, *, NoOp schrieb: [..] However, before updating the page, be aware of: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user/4599 [ODF format validity] (read the entire thread - including the 'Continue reading' bits) Or, try to look up the thread on:

[tdf-discuss] Digestmails answers with quotes not possible?

2011-05-20 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all, especially those of You receiving mails as digest are requested to report. Some people reported not beeing able getting text of the mail to be quoted in the Editor area. e-letter reported this for gmail, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/5360/focus=5383 I

[tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-24 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi e-letter, *, e-letter schrieb: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:36 PM, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: [..] When can someone improve mailing list behaviour with web mail clients like gmail??? [..] The problem is that replies to messages cannot be performed directly. This behaviour does not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient?

2011-05-25 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi e-letter, *, e-letter schrieb: A link would not show the behaviour; Thanks for your estimation. My intention was rather to have easy access to information of that list and to an example where Your answer really worked. As I spend enough time investigating Your problem

[tdf-discuss] RC2 - no 3.4.0.x tag in help - about libreoffice

2011-05-27 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all, installing LibO 3.4.0RC2 I noticed there is no tag describing the release version. So LibO 3.3.2 shows up: LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2 LibO 3.4.0RC2 shows: LibreOffice 3.4.0 OOO340m1 (Build:12) which makes it more hard for the support people to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Comparison of LO and OO downloads for a non-English language

2011-05-28 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Henri, *, M Henri Day schrieb: 2011/5/28 Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org Am 28.05.2011 19:44, schrieb M Henri Day: If the respective helppacks and langpacks can be included in stable versions of OO for non-English languages, I fail to understand why the same thing cannot be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mailing List FAQ

2011-05-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi NoOp, *, NoOp schrieb: On 05/24/2011 11:43 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: 2011/5/25 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net : Is there one? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ doesn't show or refer to one. The german wiki page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/de

[tdf-discuss] common effort: creating replacement for Oracle Report Builder

2011-05-31 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all, started a thread on projects mailinglist [libreoffice-projects] common effort: creating replacement for Oracle Report Builder http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.projects/192 Quote: = I examined the capabilities of writer and found

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation'sIncubator

2011-06-03 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Augustine, *, Augustine Souza schrieb: On 6/3/11, Harold Fuchs hwfa.libreoff...@gmail.com wrote: ... [.. nonsense ..] Nonsense. [.. nonsense ..] More nonsense. Thanks :o)) SCNR Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images

Re: [tdf-discuss] Interesting

2011-06-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Italo, *, thanks for the pointers. Italo Vignoli schrieb: This - sorry - is hot air: Brian Proffitt http://www.itworld.com/software/172393/plea-save-openofficeorg-apache This one saves me much time writing my summary after digging the incubator mails: mentioning

[tdf-discuss] OCA vs. ICLA: two names - one thing? (was: Triple licensing?)

2011-06-15 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Greg, *, I pull this in a new thread, as it is basic for understanding the difference between OCA and ICLA. Greg Stein schrieb: [..] Let's also not forget that neither TDF nor the ASF require copyright assignment. The copyright remains with the contributor. Same thing with OCA. You

Re: [tdf-discuss] OCA vs. ICLA: two names - one thing?

2011-06-15 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Greg, *, sorry, forgot to post links.. Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb: I pull this in a new thread, as it is basic for understanding the difference between OCA and ICLA. Greg Stein schrieb: [..] Let's also not forget that neither TDF nor the ASF require copyright assignment

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-15 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Allen, *, Allen Pulsifer schrieb: On that point, let me be clear: There are millions of potential users for OOo, LO, and open document formats. Many of those potential users work in companies, government agencies and other organizations that routinely trust Microsoft, Oracle, IBM and

[tdf-discuss] Copyleft vs. more permissive (was: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice)

2011-06-16 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi BRM, *, BRM schrieb: From: plino pedl...@gmail.com [..] Even the GPL does not provide that right. If a company wanted it could take a GPL product, make whatever changes it wanted, and distribute it internally to itself without ever contributing back to the community as a whole. True.

Re: [tdf-discuss] [OT] Pasta Recipes

2011-09-05 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Italo, *, Am 05.09.2011 10:23 schrieb Italo Vignoli: Recipes of pasta hacked in Munich are now online: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest2011#Pasta_Recipes Can confirm: The results kick(ed) off even non code hackers :o)) Thanks for Your great hack! Gruß/regards -- Friedrich

Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi NoOp, *, I appreciate Your initiative.. Am 08.09.2011 02:16 schrieb NoOp: For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please consider bottom posting with interspersed replies. Those who insist, won't consider. I think it's a good Idea to provide those with kind of

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