Great news on Pandora. I can't wait.
Radish, I agree that having to switch modes to use one or the other is
inelegant. However I think the architecture is sound, and we just need
some higher-level polish to make it feel right...
I really hope you'll work on this. The current implementation
FYI I changed my default slimserver to 6.5 at the weekend, and so far
the SB1 has reconnected automatically each time I've restarted my PC
(only twice so far).
Trouble is I can't imagine why 6.5 would make any difference - surely
all that sort of logic is in the Squeezebox?
James
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My very limited trials with pandora haven't been very rewarding so far
... but I love last.fm, thanks to James' plugin.
Having read that excellent blog comparison, and the comments thereon,
it seems that the two services are scratching two different itches
and that support for both would be
1) will I be able to use it to play songs from my Yahoo Music
playlists (the type of music that is rented, not owned
)
2) I travel between the US and Israel is the power adapter
110-220? Any other issues I should be aware of in terms of using the
device overseas?
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This morning a friend of mine e-mailed me about a 'new' company called pandora.com
that uses a large 'music genome' database to intelligently create a 'radio station' that plays music
based upon it's similarities to songs or artists you select ...
So I logged on, and started to play with it ...
I'm guessing this won't be available to non-US users beyond the free
trial?
You can lie on the registration about your location but then that won't
match up with your CC billing address.
James
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if for example...a non-geographic email address (e.g.
@gmail.com) and the only zipcode I know (90125 ;-) the
Pandora licensing hasn't been explicitly broken...
And how will you pay for the subscription required for the SlimServer
access?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/09/06 7:49 AM
if for example...a non-geographic email address (e.g.
@gmail.com) and the only zipcode I know (90125 ;-) the
Pandora licensing hasn't been explicitly broken...
And how will you pay for the subscription required for the
SlimServer access?
A buddy who
Ok Wim,
Dan heb ik daar dus niet alleen last van. Hetzelfde heb ik met bv
SkyRadio. Via Windows Media Player perfect, via SlimServer niets.
Groetjes
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This sounds bizarre, but reinstall SlimServer.
For some reason the service won't run the very
first time you install it and reinstalling clears
it up.
Kyle wrote:
I just installed Slimserver on a laptop that I just
reformatted to
Windows XP Pro. The install seemed to go OK, but
when I try
A buddy who lives in the states or paypal?
I couldn't find any details about what methods of payment they take
without signing up.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I think this is great news for SlimDevices!
This is exactly the sort of thing they need to differentiate from the
competition.
In article
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(IT) Craig wrote:
And how will you pay for the subscription required for the SlimServer
access?
And who would want to when we have Last.FM? :)
Kevin
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Lack og gigabit ethernet and SATA are not going to hamper performance as
far as streaming music is concerneed. Well, unless you are supporting
many flients, but then you will probably run into a throughput issue
with the usit anyway, especially if it was capable of hosting
slimserver itself.
seanadams Wrote:
Thanks guys! Pandora is going to be huge - no doubt the biggest thing
to happen to music since Napster.
Do you really think so? I respect your opinion, but I'm not seeing
it.
Pandora has a fraction of the music available on Rhapsody Radio or
Launchcast. There is no way
tom permutt Wrote:
If so, I fear Slim is on the wrong horse; but, more importantly, it's
the beginning of the end of the open-source, open-format idea.
We expect this to be the first of many horses, and we're not
interested in forcing anyone to use any particular music source. Our
goal is
Great post and very pleased to hear that Pandora will be a part of SN.
my question is .. Will the free service still be offered to SN users.
It is not that I am averse to paying 36 bucks a year for the facility..
but as mentioned above.. thoses who live outside of the states (like me
in the UK)
il.com
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wrote:
I've also made the maximize
option do a kind of full-screen thing..
Looking good apart from one minor issue. Normally when I maximise a
window it maximises
Great article. And to think it seemed like only a few months ago you
guys were placating our questions about Pandora with a 'Let's just say
I'm a good friend of the guys over there.'
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Has anyone tried this yet with their Squeezebox. Seems like you can
control your Squeezebox with it.
EW
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seanadams Wrote:
We expect this to be the first of many horses, and we're not interested
in forcing anyone to use any particular music source. Our goal is ALL
THE MUSIC and we're happy to let users decide which services they'll
get it from. However, there are practical and legal limits to
tom permutt wrote:
I do hope some of the important practical and legal limits can be
overcome in time. We like it to sound good and look good, but, as you
suggest, we all really want choices in music.
Back when my company was trying to stream our 40,000 CDs (which had
every
Was wondering is those of you who have bought the nokia 770 as an
interfaceand or remote control to slimserver have had any regrets?
Should I hold off and see if a new model comes out that will adress
some of the hardware issues (eg memory) or should |I hit the 'buy'
button now :)
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rick's cafe Wrote:
I have used pandora before (in the UK) but am limited to the free
service.. which puts a small ad on screen sure it can be a bit of a
pain but for free music streams I really dont mind...
so... will us poor folk outside of the US be able to use pandora on
our
I gotta wonder - what's with the Songbird logo
bird farting? :-D
It seems to be referencing something specific. It
appears everywhere the logo appears.
Examples:
http://69.90.210.150/themes//gespaa_customized/extn_birdmeditating.png
No regrets here. It's a fantastic device.
My two main uses are web+email when traveling (no lugging a laptop), and
SB rich remote. There are some limitations, but I'm living with them.
Biggest flaws:
--The native email client is rough. Nokia has committed to improvement.
For now I just
Correct, after the 90 day trial you'd need to subscribe.
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s.. the answer is no then for the moment at least?
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Such a request already exists:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460
Sometimes I wonder if the bugzilla database has outgrown its usefulness
- at least for end users. Old bugs and feature requests may as well not
exist now that there are over 700 open entries in the db. Most
Is there anyplace I can get a detailed list of the differences between
Squeezebox 2 and 3? I have a 2 and want to know what (other than
optical out) I don't have on my SB2.
Since all new PR from Slim is about the SB3, I often don't know if a
feature is hardware or software (i.e. upgradable)
* GQB shaped the electrons to say...
Is there anyplace I can get a detailed list of the differences between
Squeezebox 2 and 3? I have a 2 and want to know what (other than
optical out) I don't have on my SB2.
Since all new PR from Slim is about the SB3, I often don't know if a
feature is
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Is there anyplace I can get a detailed list of the differences betweenSqueezebox 2 and 3? I have a 2 and want to know what (other thanoptical out) I don't have on my SB2.You certainly have an optical out on your SB2! Well, if you don't then you got
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Thanks! Just what I needed.
Looks like I'll be happy with my SB2 for a while. Reception is good now
that I've installed a Pre-N wireless router, and I actually like the
original black box better than the new one. (No offense.)
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The SB2 has an optical out...
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Just pondering what remote solution for the living room.
Requirements are
1. Able to display Album Art
2. No Cables
3. Battery powered, (nowhere to plug mains in next to the sofa
4. Very user friendly, must pass teh Wife Test
5. Capable of being setup to control the Amp, CD Player, TV, e.t.c
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dropbear
wrote:
Slimserver 6.2 does have some diagnostic functions under the Help
Section called Server Network Health.
It seems to be performing well with the MP3s on the other drive but at
least I now know what to invoke if it starts playing up again,
GQB Wrote:
I understand the SB3's remote has a 'Favorites' button.
I control from a trained universal remote. Anyone know the IR code for
this button?
Here's a nasty hack: if you don't mind putting a tiny hole in the
remote overlay, you could poke through it at that location with a small
pin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/09/06 12:22 PM
Just pondering what remote solution for the living room.
Requirements are
1. Able to display Album Art
2. No Cables
3. Battery powered, (nowhere to plug mains in next to the sofa
4. Very user friendly, must pass teh Wife Test
5. Capable of being setup to
Well, I think the NYT mention is working :)
http://tinyurl.com/dma3n
This page changes on an hourly basis, but it's currently showing the
SB3 as Amazon's no 2 Mover and Shaker, rising from position 1340 in
the sales rank yesterday to 142 today.
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mattg Wrote:
I still can't see why people would order it from Amazon. What's the
value add? Do they even get the 30 day money back guarantee?
Here in the UK the quality of Amazon's after sales service is second to
none. My daughter's Creative Zen Micro developed a fault eight months
after
seanadams Wrote:
Some non-techies are more comfortable ordering from Amazon than
manufacturer-direct. Also people get gift cards, amazon promos, and
such.
Yeah, when I wanted an SB3 for Christmas, it was much easier to tell my
non-techie relatives to get me Amazon gift cards then to send
This page changes on an hourly basis, but it's currently showing the
SB3 as Amazon's no 2 Mover and Shaker, rising from position 1340 in
the sales rank yesterday to 142 today.
It's #1 now
Phil
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A SqueezeNetwork feature? Interesting.
Can you give us more details?
It's really simple. You'll add your pandora account in Squeezenetwork
settings, and then from the Squeezebox UI you'll see Pandora Radio at
the top level. Press right and choose to either view your stations or
create a
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I'm probably being dense here, but the web page at Slim Devices seems
to suggest that this is ready now, and I can't get it running.
The front page says 'March 1st' - the Pandora detail page doesn't.
I'll get that updated.
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I'm really enjoying the ability to play surround files on the SB3. I've
converted all my DTS CDs to FLAC files. I'm also considering a purchase
of software which would allow me to create DTS files from SACDs and
DVDs.
One concern is how to keep these files from being played as whitenoise
in
Is there any software or skin that can put the Slim into a true Jukebox
mode? For instance, just display albums with track names, and play
whatever ever track you choose, and force the following choices to go
to the end of the list, and lock out everything else?
This would be great for a party
Thanks for the replies.
I do not have a firewall on this system. I turned off the MSFT one and
don't have any other software installed othan Slimserver.
I wasn't clear in my post. The IE Browser I use is on the same system.
If I run the slimserver app directly it uses the Local host URL and
This was regarding amazon.com Movers Shakers#1 rank...
On 2/9/06, Josef Shvejk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Congratulations to SlimDevices!
The latest upgrade to SqueezeNetwork better be strong... :)
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Folks buying it from Amazon are going to be sending it back and
bad-mouthing it if it doesn't connect up right out of the box! So I
guess a new SlimServer version release is imminent?
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WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g
Interesting to note that the white, wired model is incredibly unpopular.
Wireless black - #105
Wireless white - #1,757
Wired black - #5,260
Wired white - #73,048 and down 1,000+ from yesterday
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Thanks for the replies.
I do not have a firewall on this system. I turned off the MSFT one and
don't have any other software installed othan Slimserver.
I wasn't clear in my post. The IE Browser I use is on the same system.
If I run the slimserver app directly it uses
You might want to look into anodizing
What's anodizing got to do with Pandora?
Ah! This is another example of posts from the forum not putting in unique
message Id's/References. It's really making the mailing list/forum hard to
follow.
Any idea when we can expect a fix?
Phil
90 days free for Squeezebox owners. After that, subscribe for $36/yr.
Pandora's ad-supported offering is new, so we have to wait and see...
Is it America only, or would there be a pricing structure (albeit rip-off) for
the UK, hopefully with a UK server?
Phil
I was thinking the same thing. Would indeed be great for parties to
allow folks to add a song to the queue. Would be nice to be able to
give someone a code to punch in that allows them to add up to x
songs, so no-one can monopolize the playlist.
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90 days free for Squeezebox owners. After that, subscribe for $36/yr.
Pandora's ad-supported offering is new, so we have to wait and see...
Is it America only, or would there be a pricing structure (albeit
rip-off) for the UK, hopefully with a UK
know any that run on batteries?
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Unlike mattg I'm definitely enjoying the Nokia 770 in combination w/
Ben's sweet skin. I can access my music collection much more
efficiently using the 770 versus standard remote. It goes without
saying that browse by artwork has a real wow factor using a
browser-based remote.
There was a recent
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mattg wrote:
While the Nokia 770 Slimserver skin is great to look at and easy to
use, the 770 is just too slow to make it useful [...]
The 770 firmware updates have improved performance somewhat.
One area that may improve soon is network performance when using an
encrypted wireless link. I
Hi,
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I'm really enjoying the ability to play surround files on the SB3. I've
converted all my DTS CDs to FLAC files. I'm also considering a purchase
of software which would allow me to create DTS files from SACDs
Pandora is licensed to stream music to US customers only. (they have a
faq on that)
Thinking about it, the Flash demo streams to me in the UK. I assume they would
tell through IP address. Maybe they will provide a UK service.
If SqueezeNetwork is hosting Pandora for streaming to SqueezeBox,
Take the panel off and leave it off.
-Dan
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slimserver has been messing with my head
however tonight i tried firefox rather than safari, and huge
performance improvements (on both 6.2.1 and 6.2.2 - have just gone back
to 6.2.1 as seemed to be getting some choppy audio with the 09/02
build)
no idea why of course!
for ref, mac mini, 512MB
andreas Wrote:
None of the Squeezeboxen supports PoE.
Blast. Ah well, perhaps that feature will make it in with the SB4 or
something. :) Thanks!
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* Kevin O. Lepard shaped the electrons to say...
I'm probably being dense here, but the web page at Slim Devices
seems to suggest that this is ready now, and I can't get it running.
The front page says 'March 1st' - the Pandora detail page doesn't.
Ah. That'd be it then. I didn't read the
Kurt Wrote:
Is there any software or skin that can put the Slim into a true Jukebox
mode? For instance, just display albums with track names, and play
whatever ever track you choose, and force the following choices to go
to the end of the list, and lock out everything else?
This would be
I don't mean to thread-jack, but I just discovered this thread as I
start re-ripping my CDs to FLAC (most are currently in 128 or 160
AAC).
I am currently using a Belkin Pre-N router in my config; SB3 usually
shows about 60-65% signal strength, and SlimServer reports via Windows
connect speed
One thing I'd love to have, even without the idea of jukebox style
controls, is the visual interface of a jukebox. Namely, a view where
you could browse through albums with cover art and with all tracks
visible.
This is something I've always hoped to see in SlimServer - that when
I'm looking at
It's hard for me to answer this question - as I don't have a SqueezeBox
yet! My SB3 is out being modded before arriving, so all my experience
with the 770 is with SoftSqueeze.
So far, though, it's a killer app for the 770. I agree that snappier
performance would be nice (I have the newest
So I connect with the stream, then change the song, WMP will play the
entire song, then sometimes go to the next song or lose connection.
SlimServer Version: 6.2.2 - 6152 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
Works fine on J River Media Center (but it stutters)
I didn't install it I just unzipped it.
Nokia 770 is my vote... it rocks!
http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?s=threadid=12566
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One thing I'd love to have, even without the idea of jukebox style
controls, is the visual interface of a jukebox. Namely, a view where
you could browse through albums with cover art and with all tracks
visible.
This is something I've always hoped to see in SlimServer -
I think this might have been asked before but... when you have the 770
on standby and wake it up, how long does it take to connect to your
WiFi and actively refresh the 770 skin?
When I use the 770 skin with my PSP, it takes about 15 to 25 seconds to
wake up, connect to my network and refresh.
You don't say what universal remote you have or what format you need the
IR code in so I don't know if this is of any use to you.
The IR code (or command or OBC?) would be decimal 24 (i.e. hexadecimal
18).
(You can also arrive at this by counting the buttons and spaces for
buttons on the
Please don't assume that because our software is open source
that we oppose non-free-anything - our software roadmap has always
indicated plans to support more formats and more music sources
including DRM ones.
Let's just say that a big part of my decision to buy a sb1 and then a
sb2 was that
Christian Pernegger wrote:
- global.
At the moment this seems to be US only.
I can understand wny Pandora is US only, the 'legal issues
are bad enough in the US. Trying to roll it out in many countries
with their many legal approaches to licensing is not
likely to be any fun. We can hope that
Windows Media Player (and Winamp and probably most other mp3 stream
players) buffer things. Ie, to make it more resiliant to network
hiccups, it will try to keep the next few seconds of the song: there is
a setting in Winamp to control this, I would assume WMP would have a
similar one.
A much
Dr Lovegrove Wrote:
New build of Moose now up.. 0.24..
I've re-coded the Now Playing window drawing code.. It should be
much more zippy.
The redraw obviously got much faster. If other windows are moved above
Moose, this looks pretty ok now.
However when moving the Moose window it still
I have been using Music Magic to make random playlists, works great and
will defintely purchase the program before it expires.
However, I would like to use my own playlists as well. When I go into
the Slimserver settings I have set up a directory in which to load the
playlists from.
The problem
I've been trying out Pandora for the last several hours.
Wow.
It's very, *very*impressive.
About my only beef is that the bitrate is not as good as I would like
(192kbps+ would really help the audio quality).
I hope that the Slim Devices implementation for Squeezebox is as smooth
as the web
jmpage2 Wrote:
...this is going to be huge, it's like XM on steroids.
You know, after playing with it for a bit I've come to the conclusion
that Pandora is a great idea, but... half the artists I type in - it
has never heard of. So, for the most part Pandora works well with pop
and more
adhawkins Wrote:
I'm already creating DTS files from DVDs (assuming they have either a
5.1 or
DTS soundtrack on them).
However, I'm interested in how you're going to do it for SACDs?
Also, how do you rip a DTS CD?
Thanks
Andy
What software do you use to get the DTS files from
Pandora works well with pop and more better known artists but the
indie artists, abstract, experimental, and a plethora of genres not
heard of get left out
I imagine it's like any business. You have to pick the low-hanging
fruit first if you don't want to starve. I'd be surprised if they
Pale Blue Ego Wrote:
I probably would have ordered 1 SB2 and 1 SB3 if I could have gotten
them for $200 each. The 100off2 promotion only applied to the SB3; I
also didn't need the wireless capability and the only new SB2s are
wireless. eBay was a thought, but then the single SB3 would've
EnochLight Wrote:
You know, after playing with it for a bit I've come to the conclusion
that Pandora is a great idea, but... half the artists I type in - it
has never heard of. So, for the most part Pandora works well with pop
and more better known artists but the indie artists, abstract,
I can understand wny Pandora is US only, [...]
So can I but I don't have to like it, do I? :)
username passwords are not strong enough
This auth method isn't very strong, but why shouldn't it be strong
enough? It makes sure everone who seriously uses the service pays for
it while not being
Christian Pernegger wrote:
I can understand wny Pandora is US only, [...]
So can I but I don't have to like it, do I? :)
Not at all. The SlimServer running on Linux and being
Open Source was one of the major attractions for me
to buy the first of what has so far been three SBoxen
username
I've had my SB3s for about 2 months now, and all in all I'm very happy
with them. One annoyance is the track restart when an SB is synced or
unsynced. Frequently when I want to turn on the SB in the bedroom, I'll
wait for the next track to start just to avoid this. I've read many
posts about this
stinkingpig Wrote:
Hey Jack!
http://www.last.fm/user/Stinkingpig/.
You like leadbelly?
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I am thinking of buying one of these. Here's the question:
The NY Time article says, you can't stream files off your computer if
the computer is off (but you can stream internet radio). But what if
the music is stored on a NAS drive that is always on? in that case can
you stream music from the
But they use it under SSL. I think a better comparision is the DRM in iTunes
or coming
in Vista.
SSL just protects traffic between endpoints from random listeners in
between. There are excellent FOSS implementations. The kind of
encryption I don't like is the kind that tries to protect data
Jumbosmith wrote:
I am thinking of buying one of these. Here's the question:
The NY Time article says, you can't stream files off your computer if
the computer is off (but you can stream internet radio). But what if
the music is stored on a NAS drive that is always on? in that case can
you
I was surprised to find today that the unit price for 10 units was $280.
Doesn't seem like much of a discount at all. And especially odd given
that the unit price for 2 units is $250 (with the current promotional)
if you don't mind the hassle of buying units two at a time.
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andyg Wrote:
It's a SqueezeNetwork-only feature because the interface to Pandora is
proprietary. SN allows us to write closed-source plugins that can take
advantage of things that wouldn't be possible in the open source server.
ezkcdude Wrote:
Nice! Pogue's a big name in the Mac world, so maybe this will get
Apple's attention.
That's how I found out about it! But (see beginner post) I don't have
enough hardware
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Only thing is you're still buying compressed music and whatever they
decide to encode at. At least it supports various stores and should
make it's way to linux. Does anybody sell raw wav files?
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okay, so i tried this and I can't get it to work. The stream appears to
be a wma stream. I got it to work in windows media player, but not in
winamp. In winamp it says it has an error syncing.
and i'm not exactly sure what you meant by translates into. not sure
if understanding that would
Thanks for the info and insight.
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