Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-08-02 Thread aubuti


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


Despite the many real -- but not representative -- headaches reported by
many users, esp following 7.6.0 release, my #1 reason to recommend SB is
its excellent price/performance ratio. Solutions with comparable sound
quality such as Sonos, Sooloos, and others cost a lot more. The main
competitor I see on price/performance is Apple Airplay-based systems.
It's a somewhat different product (eg, sending to your stereo from your
iPhone), but I'm sure it suits some better than SB.

My other votes were for audio quality (SBs are not the weak link in any
of my audio systems) and multi-room capability.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-08-01 Thread MrSinatra


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


i voted:

Its excellent audio quality

i couldn't in good conscience vote for anything else.


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sb2  droid (my home) / duet  ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b -
win7  xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 -
d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac
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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-08-01 Thread garym


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


garym;645714 Wrote: 
 Good advice. Set up your touch following instructions. First it will
 likely want to update the firmware, etc. Let it fully do this. At some
 point it will ask you to either set up a mysb.com account or enter your
 credentials.  I'd go ahead and set this account up in advance.   Then
 simply plug your drive into the USB port. First time it will fully scan
 your music. Depending on how many files you have it could take several
 hours. Don't try to do anything else while it is scanning.  Also note
 that it is important that the drive either have only one partition or
 your music is on the first partition. 
 
 If you have any problems post back. Good luck!

toby10 has some excellent advice here as well:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=645200postcount=3

and to emphasize, because of the time in rescanning your music library
when you remove and reattach your drive, you will likely be much better
off (if you have a large music library) if you connect the USB drive to
your ToUCH and then leave it connected (other than when you want to add
new music, etc.).


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-31 Thread umapati


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


garym;642901 Wrote: 
 I setup a boom and touch for my brother, with a 50,000 mp3 library
 connected to touch via usb drive running internal tiny SbS. No
 problems a year later and he doesn't have a clue how any of this
 works.
 
 I set up a boom for an 85+ year old woman connected via mysb.com. No
 problems almost a year later. And again, she just hits the power button
 and presets. When firmware updates hit, she has to hit a few keys, but
 somehow, she has done this without even calling me.
 
 In both cases they have robust networks and both are using wifi for
 everything.

Garym..can you plz guide me how install tiny sbs on usb drive and make
it run on SB touch..as I will be getting my Squeezebox touch tomorrow
with 2tb external powered USB hard drive


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-31 Thread GeeJay


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


Jokke;644645 Wrote: 
 
 
  Software sucks

Yes and no.  I've had my share of issues with the software, but to date
it is the only package that allows me to do exactly what I want it to do
(thanks primarily to 3rd party plug-ins).  Sonos, for example, is
probably easier to use out-of-the-box, but after doing my own research
I decided not to go that route because I could never be happy with the
inability to customize the listening experience to the degree I want
to.

And that, in a nutshell, is my rationale for recommending a Squeezebox.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-31 Thread amcluesent


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


Following the 7.6 release, I'd recommend Squeezebox for anyone who wants
to learn how to recompile the Linux kernel :)


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-31 Thread gruntwolla


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


umapati;645632 Wrote: 
 Garym..can you plz guide me how install tiny sbs on usb drive and make
 it run on SB touch..as I will be getting my Squeezebox touch tomorrow
 with 2tb external powered USB hard drive

Hi there,
I'm not Garym. and I don't profess to be as knowledgable as
him ( although if I were to grow a beard it would be predominantly
grey!), but as far as I know your touch will ship with tiny sbs already
installed. Just connect to your network and your hard drive and you
should be good to go. Let me know how you get on as I may be getting a
touch soon,


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master bedroom  - boom
sons room   - radio
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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-31 Thread garym


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


gruntwolla;645708 Wrote: 
 Hi there,
 I'm not Garym. and I don't profess to be as knowledgable as
 him ( although if I were to grow a beard it would be predominantly
 grey!), but as far as I know your touch will ship with tiny sbs already
 installed. Just connect to your network and your hard drive and you
 should be good to go. Let me know how you get on as I may be getting a
 touch soon,

Good advice. Set up your touch following instructions. First it will
likely want to update the firmware, etc. Let it fully do this. At some
point it will ask you to either set up a mysb.com account or enter your
credentials.  I'd go ahead and set this account up in advance.   Then
simply plug your drive into the USB port. First time it will fully scan
your music. Depending on how many files you have it could take several
hours. Don't try to do anything else while it is scanning.  Also note
that it is important that the drive either have only one partition or
your music is on the first partition. 

If you have any problems post back. Good luck!


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-29 Thread Jokke


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


 Good audio quality
 Good price/performance
 Good Hardware

 Software sucks


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-26 Thread JeffHart


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I recommend Squeezeboxes for price / performance and online services. 
I've scrobbled over 35K tracks since I stood up my first setup back in
March 2009.  That's not completely reflective of usage, since I'm not
scrobbling internet radio - I use the stream URL a fair amount to
listen to Live Music Archive as well a couple radio stations.

Occasional hiccups - once or twice a year - mostly having to reconnect
Duet Receivers that I haven't used for a few months and are in areas of
the house with poor WiFi signal strength.  I mostly use 3 Receivers and
the Boom,the other Receivers and the Radio are generally used when
entertaining.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-25 Thread nicolas75


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


garym;642901 Wrote: 
 I setup a boom and touch for my brother, with a 50,000 mp3 library
 connected to touch via usb drive running internal tiny SbS. No
 problems a year later and he doesn't have a clue how any of this
 works.
 
 I set up a boom for an 85+ year old woman connected via mysb.com. No
 problems almost a year later. And again, she just hits the power button
 and presets. When firmware updates hit, she has to hit a few keys, but
 somehow, she has done this without even calling me.
 
 In both cases they have robust networks and both are using wifi for
 everything.

Please, when you keep telling the story of your brother, you should
also tell a little more, because normal people won't ever use it this
way.
Only mp3, never turn it off nor disconnect the drive, never add one
single file (!!!), which is what you finally stated once after a lot of
questions (I was quite surprised he never had a problem, but with this
informations, it explains a lot ...)

Logitech is not selling computers servers for dummies, who would be
supposed to have a computer aware guy available to install, manage, and
support the thing.

Squeezebox products are not professional systems sold to companies
where there is a dedicated technical team so that normal users don't
need to install, understand, and support the system.

You can make them work, I can make them work, geek can make them work.

It seems to me a bit unfair to let people think that it works
flawlessly, and they probably did something wrong.

Squeezeboxes are great, but the software is not user friendly, it is
not stable, it is not reliable, and it is not tailored for normal
people who are not playing with computers.

It is a very bad to let people think otherwise if we don't want
Logitech to drop this product line.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-25 Thread garym


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


nicolas75;642948 Wrote: 
 Please, when you keep telling the story of your brother over and over,
 you should also tell a little more, because normal people won't ever
 use the Touch the way he does.
 Only mp3, never turn it off nor disconnect the drive, never add one
 single file (!!!), which is what you finally stated once after a lot of
 questions (I was quite surprised he never had a problem, but with this
 informations, it explains a lot ...)
 

I don't disagree with most of your points. That is, the idea that
logitech needs to work hard to make the squeezebox experience more user
friendly and that their communications with customers are sometimes less
than optional.

I will take exception with your seeming complaint with me telling my
brother's story over and over. Yes, I've used this as an example a
number of times, but certainly many times less than the relentless and
innumerable posts on logitech hardware or software is complete junk
because it doesn't seem to work for anyone, or at least anyone that is
not a computer expert.  I simply try to add a counter point that in
fact the system can work well for a non techie user. (And most of my
thousands of posts (wow, I've wasted a lot of time here) are mostly
related to helping people troubleshoot their issues as new users. And
I've learned a lot about how networks work, how DACs work, etc. etc.
Didn't need all this info to use my SB players, but it led me to things
like my vortexbox and its all interesting stuff nonetheless (and a
distraction from my day job).

It's true, my brother is not a power user. But he does have a touch
with music attached, and also a Boom using the music attached to the
Touch. I'd say given this that he may in fact be a more significant
user than the average touch purchaser. But I'm just guessing. And to
clarify, he does once in a while remove the USB drive, connect it to
his laptop, add some mp3 or aac files, then reconnect it to the TOUCH.
I've warned him to let it fully complete the scan (which he interprets
as start it before bedtime and let it run all night no matter what).

And the 85+ year old is probably even a better example. She uses
internet radio (mostly french stations) and once in a while uses some
pandora stations that her son set up for her.  Pure access to
mysqueezebox.com and none of her own music.  I'm not sure that she's
not the more typical mass market user these days.

I'll mention a 3rd friend that has a duet. She only knows the
controller exists. The receiver is hidden away with an auto-on mini amp
connected to ceiling speakers (all set up by a home stereo installer).
She literally doesn't know where the receiver is even sitting!
(although I did figure it out just for curiosityon top of a kitchen
cabinet out of site)  She uses strictly pandora and a few internet
stations, all via mysb.com.  She's another example of a user that is
certainly not techie, but uses the system with no issues (for a bit
over a year now). The only thing she's ever mentioned to me is that
once in a while she's had to remove the battery from the controller and
put it back in to make it all reboot.

I don't mention these things to annoy people. I simply believe it is
important to counter the many posts on it's horrible and can't work.
My experience is that it certainly can, and not just for computer
geeks.  I see mostly unstable networks and/or bad file tagging as the
predominant problems reported here (rather than broken hardware or
software).

I myself have no professional experience in computer programming,
networks, audio hardware, or anything related to these things. When I
bought my first SB, I didn't understand the difference between
mysqueezebox.com (squeezenetwork at that time) or SbS (squeezecenter).
But I did know how to read (and evaluate cause  effect). I now have a
home and a weekend cottage where I have full house SB based systems,
with some wired, some wifi players, including every type of player SB
produces from SB3 onward. I started with SN(SbS) on my winxp laptop,
and now use a vortexbox appliance. And (knock on wood) it is 

Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-24 Thread Applegarth


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I've had my Squeezebox Touch a few days and have been unable to get one
musical note out of it

I haven't given up yet as I am reasonably competent with computers, I
fix peoples desktop and laptop computers, software and hardware at a
seniors computer club

I would never recommend a Squeezebox Touch to friends or relatives as I
would be called upon continually to help them set them up and fix their
problems for them

If anyone asks me I would tell them to get a good quality CD player

Maybe that's what I should have done !


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-24 Thread garym


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


Applegarth;642897 Wrote: 
 I've had my Squeezebox Touch a few days and have been unable to get one
 musical note out of it
 
 I haven't given up yet as I am reasonably competent with computers, I
 fix peoples desktop and laptop computers, software and hardware at a
 seniors computer club
 
 I would never recommend a Squeezebox Touch to friends or relatives as I
 would be called upon continually to help them set them up and fix their
 problems for them
 
 If anyone asks me I would tell them to get a good quality CD player
 
 Maybe that's what I should have done !


I setup a boom and touch for my brother, with a 50,000 mp3 library
connected to touch via usb drive running internal tiny SbS. No
problems a year later and he doesn't have a clue how any of this
works.

I set up a boom for an 85+ year old woman connected via mysb.com. No
problems almost a year later. And again, she just hits the power button
and presets. When firmware updates hit, she has to hit a few keys, but
somehow, she has done this without even calling me.

In both cases they have robust networks and both are using wifi for
everything.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-24 Thread garym


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


Applegarth;642897 Wrote: 
 I've had my Squeezebox Touch a few days and have been unable to get one
 musical note out of it
 
 I haven't given up yet as I am reasonably competent with computers, I
 fix peoples desktop and laptop computers, software and hardware at a
 seniors computer club
 

lots of folks around here to give you help on this. but you should
probably start a new thread, and list all the relevant facts. Are you
using SbS on your own machine? Which OS, using tinySBS and attached USB
drive? etc.  What problems are you having. We need info to assist in
helping you.  Probably something very simple...


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-22 Thread Muele


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


One killer feature for me is local control: Touch-screen,
hardwarebuttons, IR remote. To some degree even the controller.
Basically you can do stuff on the SBs without fidling around with an
app on your smartphone/tablet.

Yes I use Squeezecommander most of the time, but for just putting on a
radio in the kitchen or bedroom, nothing beats the preset-buttons.


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Desire. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad (Yes I know most
phones have more cpu-power these days, but it gets the job done).

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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-22 Thread lintweaker


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I think the squeezebox eco system is probably not for the casual users
out there. The squeezeboxserver can be a pain to get running and keep
running (depending on what OS/devices you use). For me as a major
techny it is absolutely awesome.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-21 Thread oktup


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I think my primary reason would be because it changes the way you
listen to your music - ie the benefit of having your whole library
available instantly on demand, rather than always having the arduous
task of hunting around for the right CD.

I realise you could say the same for Sonos, Apple, etc, so perhaps
that's not quite what you meant, but you did say the primary reason
why you would recommend a Squeezebox *to someone not owning a
Squeezebox today*, and that would be my number 1 reason.

I would then have some *secondary* reasons for choosing a Squeezebox
over any other networked audio solution, which I'll answer in the poll.
(Although I'd be slightly more reticent these days, based on my own
perceptions of Logitech's commitment to the Squeezebox product range).


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-21 Thread Nostromo


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


My brother asked me what I thought of the Bose wave. Of course, I told
him it's a joke and that he shouldn't buy it. He then asked me what he
should get instead, something with the same form factor. I thought of
the Boom or the Radio, but I'm not sure they're user-friendly enough
for him. (If he was computer-savvy enough, I would recommend them
wholeheartedly.) 

I thought of the Sonos S5, since Sonos products have the reputation of
being a lot more user-friendly than Squeezebox products. But I'm not
sure...


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-21 Thread w3wilkes


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I pretty much have to agree with Nostromo. For me the SB solution is
everything that I wanted in a audio player. For Joe average computer
user I don't think I'd recommend it after going through a few problems
myself. Areas of the SB line that I see needing the most work are
initial setup and ongoing connectivity. From these boards it looks like
these two areas cause the most grief across the entire SB product line.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-21 Thread chris.mason


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I would agree as well.

I used to be a whole-hearted advocate for SlimDevices stuff, but the
repeated frustrations I experience with my Boom and SB3, using a local
server and MySB, mean I cannot recommend this to people who don't know
enough about computers, and aren't prepared to spend time fiddling with
the setup.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-21 Thread mas90


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I disagree.  My semi-non-technical mother seems quite able to use her
Squeezebox Duo and Radio.  I lent a hand plugging and configuring
things (a one-off task, and it's not unusual to ask a technical
relative/friend to set up new A/V kit -- I did the same with her TV). 
She has a folder into which she can drop music for playback on the
Squeezebox, and it Just Works.  In fact it's easier for her than
playing CDs due to limited dexterity and mobility.


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-21 Thread alfista


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Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


Going to myself, I believe most answers will reflect the reasons what we
enjoy with SB. When (or if) I would recommend it to someone else, the
reasons I would refer to would very much depend on who that person
would be. For my nieces, the access to Spotify would make the Touch
interesting, for my cousins wife the access to radio stations from her
home country would make the Radio viable, for my colleague with an
interest in obscure death metal it would be niche radio stations, for
another colleague with an enormous CD collection it would be
possibility to efficiently browse the collection, possibly adied by
clever plugins. Then there's a lot of people for whom I don't think it
would be a good solution at all.

Possibly it would have been more interesting with a poll about our
reasons for not recommending an SB product. I'm not sure it's as simple
as saying that people with little interest or knowledge in computers
would be unable to have a pleasant SB experience. In my experience it's
often the more enthusiastic and knowledgeable computer users (tinkerers
basically) who tend to run in to the most difficult problems. Sometimes
due to more complex network setups, sometimes due to more software
conflicts. People with little interest in computers often have more or
less plain vanilla systems and generally don't mess with them which
mostly keeps them out of trouble,


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Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?

2011-07-21 Thread toby10


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- Its excellent audio quality
- Best price/performance on the market
- Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution
- Great support for online streaming services
- Great support for browsing and playing local music
- The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on
- Its support for third party plugins
- The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new
  features/bugs
- This community and forum
- I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone


I'd change great support for online services to offers a wide variety
of online services.
I did select that box, but I would not rate support (i.e. functions
as expected and/or reliability) as great.


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